Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was. Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world. The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left. Join us at Football University! If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode. Hosted o ...
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The Ultimate Halloween Franchise podcast, created by the fans for the fans. From the first chilling notes of the iconic score... to the final frame... Join Joel Brown as we explore the iconic horror series, digging deep into the characters.. the storylines.. and the spine-chilling scares.
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We are just a couple of old dudes who came together to interview interesting guests and debate current topics. From sports, to life, to politics, to pop culture, the guys from Old Man Strength will cover it all.
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Hosted by Bart Egnal, President & CEO of The Humphrey Group, Inspire is THE podcast for anyone who wants to influence and lead others every time they speak. Each episode features a new guest who will share insights, stories and tips on how you can intentionally inspire others, both in work and in life. Our interviews skip the theory and provide you with practical advice to inspire others during every interaction. This first season includes insights from a former TOPGUN instructor, the CEO of ...
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How to RAMP UP your real estate business in 2023. In this Real Estate Marketing Pros episode, Jacques "JD" Desrochers and special guests talk about ways to RAMP UP your business in 2023. This is the real deal discussing ways to ramp up your business with actionable results. It’s a different season now than back a year or two ago. You need a plan of action – you need to be having conversations every day. So, how’s it done…listen in to find out. Access to Charts on this Video: https://drive.go ...
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Capturing Light – Episode 158 with Rob Draper, ACS
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52:14In this episode, we talk about Navigating the industry. “A Hair in The Gate” Illuminating Cinema Director of Photography and Author: Rob Draper, ACS www.robdraperacs.com TWITTER: @rjdacs SKYPE: draperacs IMDB Thank you for listening: Please let me know what you learned or thought of the show today. Subscribe to the podcast.…
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The Man Behind Liverpool’s 20th Title - Arne Slot’s story
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47:10Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Liverpool wrapped up their 20th English league title at the weekend, so today co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper focus on the fascinating career of manager Arne Slot who has won the Premier League at his first attempt at Anfield. Beginning with his unique upbringing in a football-cen…
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S7 E3: New Imperatives for Talent Management with Peter Zukow
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37:42In this episode of The Inspire Podcast, Bart welcomes Peter Zukow, Managing Partner at IQ Partners, a leading search firm, for a conversation on the evolving world of talent management.Peter unpacks why talent management has changed in recent decades, driven by trends like remote work, the great resignation and now AI. He emphasizes that while tale…
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David comes on Old Man Strength and instantly is uspet Chris hasn't seen Blues Brothers and doesn't know who Dua Lipa is either. So after that, we dive into David growing up, some stories he can now tell and lots more. Sponsored by Revelton Distilling Company, Green Beret Realty, Kyle Lehman at Wintrust Mortgage and LIVE from the AKC Andrew Downs S…
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Capturing Light – Episode 160 with Pedro Gomez Millan
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38:53In this episode, we talk about Navigating the industry. Collaboration between DPs on the same show. The difference between working on television shows and feature film Daredevil: Born Again Director of Photography: Pedro Gomez Millan https://www.pedrogomezmillan.com/ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2960150/ https://www.instagram.com/pedrogmillan/ Check…
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Barcelona vs Inter: Pep, José, and the Semi-Final That Defined an Era – Part Two
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50:51Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. It's time for Part Two of Pep vs Jose! As Barcelona and Inter prepare to face off once again in this year’s Champions League semi-final, we look back at the original - a tie that shaped modern football. Guardiola vs Mourinho. All-out attack vs. tactical defiance. Ideology, rivalry - maybe…
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Barcelona vs Inter: Pep, José, and the Era-Defining Semi-Final - Part One
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45:12Welcome to It Was What It Was. As Barcelona and Inter prepare to face off once again in this year’s Champions League semi-final, we look back at the original - a tie that shaped modern football. Pep Guardiola vs. José Mourinho. All-out attack vs. tactical defiance. Ideology, rivalry - maybe even good vs. evil? Fifteen years ago, Pep’s all-conquerin…
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Young journalist Wendy Blake parks outside the infamous Myers house, determined to break her biggest story—getting Michael Myers to speak for the first time in 22 years. But she’s not the only one watching… and she’s not the only one being watched. Welcome to Haddonfield. Michael has come home. Talking Shape on: Facebook Instagram X YouTube Music b…
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The Horse That Changed Manchester United: The Glazer Takeover - Part Two
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58:01Welcome back to It Was What It Was. It's time for part two of our look at the unexpected role a horse would play in the controversial takeover of Manchester United by the Glazer family. The episode covers the period of the Glazer acquisition, the impact of their ownership, and the financial manoeuvres that transformed the club. From Alex Ferguson's…
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Capturing Light – Episode 159 with Christopher Ross, BSC
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46:46In this episode, we talk about Navigating the industry. Shogun Doing light studies. How he covers a scene. Director of Photography and Author: Christopher Ross, BSC https://www.christopherrossbsc.com/ https://www.instagram.com/edjibevel/ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2131733/ Check out the Trailer for Shogun: Thank you for listening: Please let me kn…
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The Horse That Changed Manchester United - Part One with David Walsh
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57:12Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In today's episode, hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper are joined by journalist David Walsh to explore how the modern fortunes of Manchester United are intertwined with one of the greatest racehorses in history. This is the extraordinary story of Rock of Gibraltar, the famed racehorse p…
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Old Man Strength: EP 6.7 Willie Farrell
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1:01:16Willie Farrell is a Des Moines Icon and legendary comedian. Willie joins Aaron & Chris as we learn about his growing up on the South Side of Des Moines, his comedy journey and more. Sponsored by Revelton Distilling Company, Green Beret Realty, Kyle Lehman at Wintrust Mortgage and LIVE from the AKC Andrew Downs Studios.…
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Brendon Batson: Football Pioneer and Big Ron Betrayal - Part Two
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46:55Welcome to It Was What It Was for part two of our interview with Brendan Batson, a trailblazer in English football. Brendon tells Jonathan and Rob about his impactful time at West Bromwich Albion as part of the iconic 'Three Degrees' with Cyrille Regis and Laurie Cunningham. We discuss his teammates, the tragic losses and his work to combat racism.…
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Brendon Batson: Arsenal's Trailblazer and the Three Degrees Legacy - Part One
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37:52Welcome back to It Was What It Was. This week Jonathan and Rob welcome special guest Brendan Batson, a former Arsenal, Cambridge, and West Brom player - who made a significant impact on British social and footballing history. Part one focuses on Batson's early life in Grenada and Trinidad, his challenges adapting to the British climate in the 1960s…
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S7 E2: Eradicating Toxic Leadership with Alex Draper
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42:58In this episode of The Inspire Podcast, Bart sits down with Alex Draper, founder and CEO of DX Learning, to tackle a critical issue in the workplace: toxic leadership. Alex starts with a simple truth—bad leadership is toxic and has negative impacts. So why does it persist when no one sets out to be a bad leader?Alex explains that most toxic leaders…
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Cameroon at Italia ‘90: England Showdown and Legacy - Part Two
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51:26Welcome back to It Was What It Was, and part two of our look at Cameroon’s extraordinary journey at the 1990 World Cup. With their stunning opening victory against defending champions Argentina and making history as the first African team to reach the quarter-finals, Cameroon’s story is one of resilience, brilliance, and pure football magic. Facing…
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Cameroon at Italia ‘90: Roger Milla and the Legend of the Indomitable Lions - Part One
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47:42This week on It Was What It Was, Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson look back at one of the most iconic footballing stories of all time: Cameroon’s 1990 World Cup. Jonathan and Rob look at the chaotic preparations behind Cameroon's campaign, discussing last-minute squad upheaval, internal conflicts between teammates, and the unexpected recall of a man …
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Capturing Light Episode 157 – with Sydney Lawson
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27:59In this episode, we talk about Sydney’s Journey into the industry. Testing Lenses Working on The Holiday Club The importance of therapy. Director of Photography: Sydney Lawson https://www.sydlawson.com/ instagram: @sydlawson Rent the Holiday Club Check out the Trailer for the Holiday Club: Thank you for listening: Please let me know what you learne…
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Did Saudi Arabia Buy Sport? Soft Power, Newcastle and Jimmy Hill!
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58:02Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Today Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper are joined by author James Montague to discuss his new book 'Engulfed' - exploring Saudi Arabia's massive investments in sport. James gives unique insights on the history of Saudi football, the Vision 2030 project, and how Newcastle United's takeo…
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Soccer: An American History - Part Three: Boom to Bust
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48:43Welcome back to It Was What It Was. It's the final installment of our three-part series exploring the rise and fall of the American Soccer League. Jonathan and Rob dive into internal conflicts within the ASL, the 1929 Wall Street crash, and how its devastating effects exposed the vulnerabilities of the fledgling league. But all is not lost - with a…
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Old Man Strength: EP 6.6 George Wares Head Softball Coach Central College
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1:04:58Chris and Aaron sit down with George Wares, Head Women's Softball Coach at Central College. Coach gives facts and comments on the political climate surrounding transgender athletes and the impact on Women's sports. Sponsored by Revelton Distilling Company, Green Beret Realty, Kyle Lehman at Wintrust Mortgage and LIVE from the AKC Andrew Downs Studi…
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S7 E1: In a World of AI, Lean into Your EQ with Dr Robin Hills
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43:07To kick off season 7 of The Inspire Podcast, Bart speaks with Dr Robin Hills, a renowned business psychologist and the director of Ei4Change, an internationally acclaimed, award-winning company that has empowered over 500,000 people across 200+ countries through its expertise in emotional intelligence for change. Robin shares why in this age of aut…
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In this episode, we talk about Navigating the industry. “The Cine Lens Manual” A Director’s Guide To Everything The importance of 156being a technician and being an artist. Director and Author: Jay Holben www.adakinpress.com www.jayholben.com instagram: @jayholben The Adakin Press site ships all over the world, we’ve sold to more than 40 countries.…
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Soccer: An American History - Part Two: Struggles, Expansion and International Influence
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52:15In today's It Was What It Was, Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson continue to explore the fascinating story of soccer in the United States. Highlighting the pivotal role of immigrant communities in the sport's development, the episode also examines key figures like Bela Gutmann and the significant tours by foreign teams that attracted huge crowds. Join…
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Soccer: An American History - Part One: Origins and Challenges
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52:54In this episode of It Was What It Was, Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson dive into the early history of soccer in the United States. They look at efforts to establish professional leagues, the influence of immigrant communities, and the geographic and cultural factors that made it difficult for football to gain a foothold - compared to rival American …
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Old Man Strength: EP 6.5 Keith "Lefty" Moore & the birth of Hilton Magic
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1:00:50Lefty Moore, was here when it all began with Coach Orr and Hilton Magic. Our partial guest host Keith Schrage joins as we talk to Lefty about the early years of Hilton Magic, Coach Orr and the upcoming March Madness. Sponsored by Revelton Distilling Company, Green Beret Realty, Kyle Lehman at Wintrust Mortgage and LIVE from the AKC Andrew Downs Stu…
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The 1985 League Cup Final: The Match that Changed My Life
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49:22Welcome back to It Was What It Was. Rob and Jonathan are joined by David Corner - the man whose life was changed forever by the 1985 League Cup Final between Sunderland and Norwich. That match is remembered for a costly mistake that led to Sunderland’s defeat - a moment that saw David singled out, subjected to intense criticism and even physical ab…
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League Cup Classics: Liverpool, Newcastle and the Greatest Finals
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45:36Welcome back to It Was What It Was. With Liverpool and Newcastle set to battle for the first major trophy of the English domestic season on Sunday, we’re taking a journey through some of the greatest League Cup finals of all time. Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper each share three of their favourite finals - games filled with drama, controversy, and u…
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From Arteta to Alonso: The Rise of Basque Coaches
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54:04Welcome back to It Was What It Was. Mikel Arteta’s transformation of Arsenal, Unai Emery’s tactical mastery, Xabi Alonso’s meteoric rise at Bayer Leverkusen, and Andoni Iraola’s fearless pressing at AFC Bournemouth all highlight a remarkable trend: A new wave of coaches shaping the modern game, many of them from the Basque Country. But why does thi…
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Guardiola: Dominance, Decline and a Post-Pep World?
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52:04Welcome back to It Was What It Was. This week - we discuss the rise of Basque coaching. But we begin not in Bilbao or San Sebastián, but with a Catalan: Pep Guardiola. After revolutionising football with Barcelona, dominating in Germany with Bayern, and redefining the Premier League with Manchester City, Guardiola has become the defining coach of h…
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The Making of a Football Superpower - Part Three: A New Dawn
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47:49Welcome back to It Was What It Was. This is the story of a new dawn - where one national team took full control of their destiny, cementing a legacy that continues to shape football today. Following their World Cup triumph (in our last part), the U.S. Women's side entered a new era of independence and power - and with it came major shifts. Coach To…
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The Making of a Football Superpower - Part Two: The Arrival
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51:18Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast.. Approaching the end of the millennium, the U.S. women’s national team had already won a World Cup and Olympic gold, but they were still fighting for mainstream recognition. That all changed when they took centre stage at the 1999 Women’s World Cup. With 90,000 fans packing the Rose …
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Old Man Strength: EP 6.4 Chris Kuball WOI Meteorologist
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1:13:18Meteorologist Chris Kuball comes on and talks about his time at Iowa State, weather talk and Chris S wants to know if Windchill is fake. Sponsored by Revelton Distilling Company, Green Beret Realty, Kyle Lehman at Wintrust Mortage and LIVE from the AKC Andrew Downs Studios.
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The Making of a Football Superpower - Part One: The Birth of U.S. Women's Soccer
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57:24Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast.. Despite not playing their first professional match until 1985, the U.S. Women won the inaugural World Cup in 1991. But even as champions, they faced inequality—most notably at the 1996 Olympics, where they were only promised pay if they won gold, while the men earned bonuses for any…
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The Making of a Football Superpower with Carli Lloyd - An Introduction
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44:43Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In our new mini-series, we begin the journey of how women’s football in the U.S. rose to global dominance. And who better to start with than Carli Lloyd - one of the game’s greatest competitors and a key figure in that evolution? From the early struggles for recognition to back-to-ba…
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Busby’s Man United: From Munich Tragedy to European Glory
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48:18Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this final chapter of our series, we complete the journey that began with Gary Neville reflecting on the legacy of the Busby Babes. We explored who they were before the 1958 Munich Air Disaster, the tragic day itself, and now, we turn to the aftermath: How Manchester United rose a…
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Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In last week’s episode, we told the story of the rise of the Busby Babes, their brilliance, and their final match before tragedy struck. Today, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper take you through the darkest day in Manchester United’s history: 6 February 1958. At Munich-Riem Airport, Uni…
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Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Following Gary Neville’s tribute to the triumph and tragedy of the Busby Babes on the anniversary week of the Munich Air Disaster, we begin a three-part series on how the tragedy shaped the future of Manchester United. In Part One, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper explore who …
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Gary Neville: The Triumph and Tragedy of the Busby Babes
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43:18Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This week former Manchester United captain Gary Neville joins us to look back on one of the most momentous and tragic events in football history: The Munich air disaster of 1958. Neville discusses the lasting significance of the tragedy - and how Sir Matt Busby rebuilt the club, lead…
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The Mystery of Matthias Sindelar, Part Two
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54:23Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Austrian footballer Matthias Sindelar was one of the greats of the game but his mysterious death in 1939 at the age of just 35 became a hugely contested issue in the darkest era of Austrian history. Was he murdered because he objected to the Nazis? Did he chose to end his life unable…
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The Mystery of Matthias Sindelar, Part One
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50:05Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Austrian footballer Matthias Sindelar was one of the greats of the game but his mysterious death in 1939 at the age of just 35 became a hugely contested issue in the darkest era of Austrian history. Was he murdered because he objected to the Nazis? Did he chose to end his life unable…
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Old Man Strength: EP 6.3 Leah Wafful Date Me DSM
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1:08:53Leah Wafful joins Old Man Strength as we talk about the world of new age dating in 2025 in Des Moines. Amy from Hot Mess Happy Hour joins Chris as we talk to Leah, who runs "Date Me Dsm" a dating experience. We talk about he jump from the corporate world to dating and matchmaking and we discuss why we think men in Des Moines have a new option to fi…
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The Brilliance of Bill Nicholson - Part Four
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45:45Welcome back to It Was What It Was. Jonathan and Rob continue exploring the extraordinary legacy of Bill Nicholson’s push and run game at Spurs and its relationship with Cruyff, Ajax, Barça and Total Football. In Part 4, Nicholson guides Spurs to the first league and cup double of the 20th century and Spurs become the first British club to win a Eu…
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The Brilliance of Bill Nicholson - Part Three
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48:13Welcome back to It Was What It Was. Jonathan and Rob continue their dive into the career of Tottenham's legendary manager and one of the founding fathers of modern football: Bill Nicholson. Don't forget to go back and listen to parts one and two with special guest and Spurs royalty Steve Perryman! If you’re enjoying the It Was What It Was, please h…
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Old Man Strength: EP 6.2 Jason Norton Rob & Christi Taylor
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1:19:24Jason Norton from Drinks from Jason joins Chris at Revelton to chat with Rob and Christi Taylor's owners of Revelton talk Whiskey, being creative and a fantasy island challenge. Sponsored by Revelton Distilling Company, Green Beret Realty and Kyle Lehman at Wintrust Mortgage and LIVE from the AKC Andrew Downs Studios.…
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The Brilliance of Bill Nicholson - Part Two With Steve Perryman
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39:24Welcome back to It Was What It Was. It's time for part two of Jonathan and Rob's chat with Spurs legend Steve Perryman about the club's legendary manager and one of the founding fathers of modern football: Bill Nicholson. Hear more from Steve as he tells us backstage stories and insights on Nicholson from the training ground, the dressing room and …
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The Brilliance of Bill Nicholson - Part One With Steve Perryman
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32:35Welcome back to It Was What It Was. This week, Jonathan and Rob are joined by Steve Perryman, Tottenham Hotspur’s record appearance holder, to talk about legendary Spurs manager Bill Nicholson. From transforming Spurs into serial winners - to hilarious changing room stories - Steve takes us behind the scenes of one of the most successful sides of t…
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History's Biggest FA Cup Third Round Shocks - Part Two
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43:17Welcome back to It Was What It Was - for Part Two of our look back at The FA Cup’s most memorable Third Round upsets! Jonathan and Rob return to tell the stories behind five more iconic moments from football's oldest cup competition - before the pair choose their ultimate Third Round shock. Please go back and listen to Part One if you missed it! If…
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History's Biggest FA Cup Third Round Shocks - Part One
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47:41Welcome back to It Was What It Was - where it's time to talk some of The FA Cup’s most memorable Third Round shocks! The FA Cup is synonymous with dreams and giant-killings, and nothing captures its essence better than the Third Round proper. Jonathan and Rob bring us their favourite ‘cupsets’ and the stories that have cemented them in FA Cup folkl…
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