The Datamam Podcast explores how public data is transforming modern industries. The show dives into real-world use cases of web scraping, data intelligence, and AI, from market analysis and competitive benchmarking to ethical debates and automation trends. Each episode breaks down complex data topics into engaging conversations for tech leaders, founders, and data professionals looking to stay ahead in a data-driven world.
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A weekly wrap of the “must-know” developments in Marketing, Media, Agency and Technology for leaders and emerging leaders in the industry. Veteran industry journalist and Mi3 Executive Editor Paul McIntyre talks each week with guest marketers who are in the know on what matters at the nexus of marketing, agencies, media and technology. Powered mostly by Human Intelligence (HI).
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Nine’s MMM trial early results: MAFS boosts trust for Westpac, Love Island Australia smashes Cointreau consideration, Kia prepares to move money – but ROI dangers lurk
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58:09Last October Nine corralled a posse of market mix model (MMM) providers, co-funding a program to prove what its assets could do in hard business terms. Since then Nine has poured over three years of historical data from dozens of campaigns, along with brand tracking, consumer attitudinal research, business case studies and other inputs from the lik…
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Seventh Wave Rising: AI to slash SaaS pricing, collapse tech stacks, kill search as we know it - and why marketers should wait before locking in
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36:14Host: Andrew Birmingham - Editor - CX | Martech | Ecom AI is reshaping the rules of business at breakneck speed - and likewise for marketing. Legendary tech sector analyst, founder, CEO and chairman of global analyst firm Forrester, George Colony, calls this the Seventh Wave. It’s an upheaval that will eclipse previous waves like the internet, mobi…
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‘Growing out’ of YouTube: 120,000 long-form TV, movie titles send ad-funded Tubi’s biggest audience – Gen Z and millennials – down retro rabbit holes and ‘vertical fandoms’ - News Australia completes ...
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44:24Just when you thought the bulging TV, BVOD, streaming and video sector had peaked with too many consumer and advertiser choices, along comes the no-subscription, ad-supported international streamer Tubi with 100 million global viewers dominated by a younger set binging TV shows like the 30 year-old Friends and creating new genre “rabbit holes” like…
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YouTube steaming to ad revenues of $50bn, recasts TV to creator economy as UK broadcasters claim ‘reach fail’, top 200 channels dominated by kids - and Peppa Pig
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50:40YouTube last week officially ousted the UK’s biggest commercial broadcaster ITV as the video platform now second only to the BBC in audience size, according to the tech and media regulator Ofcom. YouTube’s ad take is pumping everywhere – it raked $9.8bn in the June quarter, according to its latest earnings results – up 13% year-on-year. YouTube has…
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Scraping for Awareness: How Smart Companies Turn Public Data Into Strategic Advantage
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7:59In this episode of the Datamam Podcast, we explore how companies use web scraping to move beyond dashboards and build real-time market awareness. From detecting competitor moves and monitoring inventory shifts to uncovering regulatory changes and unauthorized sellers, scraping has become a strategic sensor system. We dive into use cases across CPG,…
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The CMO Awards Podcast Ep8: Building brand for demand: Michael Hill, Reflections Holidays, Allianz CMOs on the business case and foundations for a brand-first marketing strategy
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1:05:36Host: Nadia Cameron - Editor - Marketing | Associate Publisher Brand evolution: It’s in the sights of every marketer, but how do you honour the legacy while seeking a new narrative that grabs attention, signals distinctiveness, and builds loyalty? How do you prove it’s worth investing in brand not just demand internally? What team structures and me…
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‘700% outperformance’: Employment Hero and Salesforce bring B2C playbook to B2B, watch lead costs tumble, growth power – but diverge on in-housing vs agencies amid AI shift
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51:00Employment Hero and Salesforce are at opposite ends of the B2B spectrum. One’s a rapidly scaling $2bn platform, the other a $260bn behemoth. But both have adopted a consumer marketing playbook, applied it to B2B and are watching growth power. Employment Hero’s Tasman Page says the approach is notching 700 per cent gains. Lifting B2C’s distinctive a…
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Top ten global martech analyst Scott Brinker says tech vendor consolidation has begun, agentic AI’s impact deep on marketers to master a complex, multi-agent future
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39:00Host: Andrew Birmingham, Editor - CX | Martech | Ecom Mi3’s tech editor Andrew Birmingham is joined by global Martech doyenne and Chief Martec's editor-in-chief Scott Brinker to dissect the 2025 Martech Landscape, his famed spaghetti-styled industry maps, now at 15,000 different tech solutions, and what it really means for marketers. From the proli…
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‘People’s jobs will be changed’: Salesforce global CMO on how AI agents are the new digital labour force rapidly reshaping customer service, marketing and commerce; plus the ‘false precision’ of brand ...
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28:59It’s less than a year since Salesforce launched autonomous AI agents into the wild. But the bots are already reshaping business functions. In the US, online accounting platform 1-800 Accountants, which handles payroll and book keeping for circa 100,000 firms, has slashed the time staff spend on customer service by 70 per cent. Open Table and Singap…
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The CMO Awards Podcast Ep7: Winners and finalists part 2: Uber, Guzman y Gomez CMOs reveal what makes their distinct marketing approaches effective
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1:01:01Their remits and responsibilities seem poles apart, but Guzman y Gomez global CMO, Lara Thom, and Uber CMO APAC, Andy Morley share strikingly similar views on the importance of culture, CMOs aligning personally to company values, brand-led strategy, and bold, progressive marketing that grabs attention and strikes the right cultural chord. It’s surp…
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Super Cannes 25: Suncorp’s Brand, CX boss Mim Haysom on influencers; Why EY Parthenon says risk and creative works for c-suite and Tassal’s Matt Vince is thinking global
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45:47Cannes was heaving with influencers striking deals, but the message from top marketers, academics and consulting firms was consistent: Go back to fundamentals on brand, embed brand at the heart of business, then execute with consistent creative excellence to drive outsized financial returns. Mark Ritson landed that message most emphatically via 10 …
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Behind the Code: How Modern Web Scraping Really Works
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9:31What really powers the modern web scraping stack? In this episode, we break down the tools, techniques, and infrastructure behind large-scale data extraction from Selenium and Beautiful Soup to API scraping and proxy management. Whether you're just starting out or scaling operations across thousands of pages, this is your hands-on guide to turning …
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Is Web Scraping Legal? Risks & Real-World Use Cases
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10:03This episode explores the legal gray zones and ethical boundaries of web scraping, highlighting landmark court cases, websites' defensive tactics, and real-world applications across industries like law, real estate, and e-commerce. It is a must-listen for anyone working with data at scale.By Datamam
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The CMO Awards Podcast Ep6: Best Growth Initiative of the Year in focus: CMOs of Arnott’s Group, Flintfox share how they unlocked growth opportunities in the very different worlds of B2C and B2C
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57:53This year’s inaugural CMO Awards weren’t just a showcase of Australian marketing leaders doing an excellent job of marketing stewardship and effectiveness. We also introduced the Best Growth Initiative of the Year award, supported by Publicis Groupe, to single out and recognise strategic growth initiatives led by marketing teams. In this podcast ep…
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Blending Sharp and Ritson: Distinctive differentiation and custom media moves needle for CommBank, Subway, NRMA Insurance as News Australia shifts approach.
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42:09Byron Sharp is a distinctive assets maximalist, suggesting how brands look and are recognised and embedded into people’s minds is more important than focusing on what they do differently to rival brands. Mark Ritson argues brands need differentiation to stand out from rivals and pull customers in. News Australia says you need both to drive growth –…
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The Hidden World of Web Scraping: Ethics and Innovations
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7:08Web scraping powers everything from market intelligence to AI training, but most people have no idea how it really works. In this episode, we reveal the hidden world of web scraping. Explore how companies, from small retailers to major financial firms, use scraping to make smarter, faster decisions. You’ll hear real-world examples, learn how modern…
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Omnichannel planning cuts ad fatigue, builds brand, speeds sales: New research shows how; Nunn Media cuts acquisition cost 24%
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30:18Marketing budgets are declining just as paid media costs are rising – meaning brands get less for every dollar spent, and fewer dollars to start with. But latest research commissioned by The Trade Desk into omnichannel versus multichannel media planning could provide sweet relief. In short, the difference between omnichannel and multichannel planni…
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The CMO Awards Podcast Ep5: Winners and finalists part 1: Why sticking it out for the long term is so important to the marketing chiefs at Intrepid, Kennard’s Hire and Patties Foods
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1:03:04While the numbers have been improving, CMOs still have the shortest tenure in the c-suite globally. Spencer Stuart data shows CMOs in Fortune 500 companies now have average tenure of 4.3 years against a c-suite average of 4.9 years. But variance is huge: Tellingly, Forrester data shows a 75% variance in average CMO tenure across the industries it t…
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‘It’s all double duty’: A CMO, a CEO and an agency boss on brand v performance myths, the ‘mother metric’, and expensive mistakes to avoid
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46:11The marketing funnel doesn’t exist, suggests RAA CMO, Michael Healy. He thinks “too many marketers get too ideological about how you have to do brand and then awareness and then conversion”. He has an interesting anecdote about a $329 knife, his wife, and Meta, to support the theory. Healy says “the vast majority of marketers that I talk to – from …
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Kahneman subverted: Behavioural economics weaponised as dark patterns pump ecom, platform profits – prepare for legal change, warns Consumer Policy Research Centre
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30:12Lawmakers around the world are setting their sights on ‘dark patterns’, the way consumer choice is manipulated wholesale by companies for profit – either directly by upselling and herding them into higher yielding decisions, or locking them into services, or “data grabs” that can be monetised indirectly. Australia is next off the rank, and business…
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The CMO Awards Podcast Ep4: Earning the CEO and CFO’s respect: What former marketing chiefs from Jurlique, Aldi, Mercer plus Tourism Australia’s former CFO did to better narrate the commercial value of ...
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47:43Host: Nadia Cameron - Editor - Marketing | Associate Publisher Short CMO tenure, job complexity, unrealistic expectations of delivery – commonly driven by short-term ultimatums – plus a disconnect on the metrics that matter, are all contributing to a dangerously common misalignment between CMOs and their CEOs and CFO. And it’s a recipe for trouble …
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The CMO Awards podcast Ep3: Why we need ‘growth’ in job titles: Former and current marketing leaders from Lion, SiteMinder and McCain on how they’ve oriented teams and culture to drive new growth and brand ...
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52:27Host: Nadia Cameron - Editor - Marketing | Associate Publisher At its core, the job of the CMO is to deliver business growth. And if Mi3’s story on marketing jobs recently and what company CEOs want in their marketing hires in 2025 is anything to go by, there is a recalibration back to topline growth rather than just pure cost cutting and efficienc…
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The CMO Awards podcast Ep2: Tourism Australia, Google and ABC marketing chiefs on how they have won friends and influenced people – from CEO and exec stakeholders to staff
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51:31Host: Nadia Cameron - Editor - Marketing | Associate Publisher Being able to convince others is the most critical skill marketers need to possess – the whole job of marketing is to influence consumers to consider then purchase your brand, after all. But as marketers progress into senior management positions, they also need to get better at getting …
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Short-term ‘trap’: Oxford Uni professor warns on TV industry plan to build outcomes model – but still thinks they should build it; says agencies hold key to advertising beyond reach, and can lift his code ...
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49:23Oxford University Associate Professor Felipe Thomaz was a runaway Mi3 hit last year with a peer-reviewed paper that smashes the economics and relevance of audience reach. His analysis – based on 1,000 campaigns and a million customer journeys via Kantar and Wavemaker data – finds blunt use of reach will not deliver business outcomes, because not al…
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Suncorp, OMD and Foxtel talk TV, streaming and sport sponsorships and where media measurement, outcomes need to go next
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33:00It was the sudden declines in footy audiences that did it for Suncorp Executive Manager of Media, Greg Kearney and OMD Chief Media Partnerships Officer, Marelle Salib. They knew that diehard sports fans don’t just ditch their teams overnight. But Kearney and Salib had years’ worth of market mix model (MMM) data that countered the volatile numbers c…
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Eyes on the pies: How Four'N Twenty and QMS struck new customer gold by mashing real-time Olympics content and dynamic ads – sales soar 30%
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27:03Four’N Twenty pies are literally baked-in to footy and Patties Food Group marketing boss Anand Surujpal gets a related proposition across his desk every week. But his challenge is to grow share through new buyers beyond “diehard footy fans” and tradies. So when the prop for the Paris Olympics landed, Surujpal saw an opportunity for a bigger demogra…
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Bench strength: How Freedom Furniture, Wesfarmers Health, REA Group CMOs are keeping the crazy pace on team capability and next for the Australian Marketing Institute’s skills assessment and capability ...
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52:42Host: Nadia Cameron, Editor - Marketing | Associate Publisher Amid all the hype, excitement and trepidation around digital, marketing automation, data utilisation and now AI coming into marketing, is the very real need to build team capability and empowerment to actually use the tools effectively – and in a way that delivers business outcomes. As I…
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‘Time to harvest’: SCA chief John Kelly on LiSTNR’s rise to payback machine, ‘insatiable’ demand, and an opportunity that Meta and co. have missed
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28:23SCA has spent four years building its uber-app LiSTNR from idea to the fulcrum of its audio business. It’s got 2.25m logged-in users, knows their postcodes – handy ahead of the federal election – what they listen to and what they might want to hear next. Kelly says acquisition is no longer core focus – “we’ve got the base we wanted to get” – and SC…
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‘Clients in on it, boatloads of cash, complex, opaque corporate structures’: Principal media arbitrage trading spreads to TV, out of home, audio as holdco’s, retail media pile in; ex-IPG, GroupM, Omnicom ...
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48:15Host: Paul McIntyre | Executive Editor Media agency holding company CEOs are openly acknowledging the importance of arbitrage-based principal trading to their business models – and it’s spreading rapidly out of digital display into TV, audio, digital out of home, connected TVs and beyond. Former UM Global Chief Media Officer Joshua Lowcock, who lef…
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‘Size the opportunity, then seize it’: Flight Centre global CMO prepares for category expansion, revenue take-off via owned media-publisher pivot
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30:05Four years ago, Flight Centre’s global CMO Megan Henderson was tasked with leading a sweeping restructure of Flight Centre’s worldwide marketing operation – centralising five teams into one while overhauling its martech stack and contracts and simultaneously finding efficiencies and growth. Daunting. But Henderson knew that Fight Centre’s 60 millio…
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‘Reach alone no longer works’: Why News Australia fired up engagement debate and how Tubi video streaming rights will shake-up BVOD with audience intent signals to sell more Subways
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31:10Mi3’s most read story of 2024 came via an Oxford University marketing scientist’s peer-reviewed paper underlining precisely why not all reach is equal. Based off analysis of 1,000-plus campaigns and a million customer journeys via Kantar and Wavemaker, the data shows optimising for reach alone rarely tallies with business growth. In fact, in almost…
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The CMO Awards Podcast Ep 1: Former CMOs of Westfield, Audi, Kimberly-Clark reveal relentless financial scrutiny, growth intent and risk factors driving exec and board expectations of marketing
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57:52Welcome to the first in our CMO Awards podcast series, powered by Mi3. This limited-episode series dives into the key topics and issues making up how marketing as a function, and its leaders, contribute to growth. To do this, we’re engaging in a select number of conversations with industry luminaries, CMO Awards judges, former CMO50 winners, curren…
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‘The accountability for creativity stops with me’: Suncorp’s brand-CX chief Mim Haysom dukes it with Sir John Hegarty and Val Morgan Cinema’s Guy Burbidge on attention, entertainment, culture and marketing ...
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57:48Mim Haysom’s world-beating, Cannes-winning One House initiative at Suncorp in 2022 was a big bold bet on innovative, mould-breaking marketing that Suncorp’s executive leadership and board only saw days before a documentary on the initiative was set to broadcast on Nine. “The first time the board saw One House, I took them into the auditorium and pl…
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Two second rule: System1 and JCDecaux effectiveness research shows 70% of Out-of-Home ads fail, the brands nailing it – and seven easy fixes
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41:28A world first creative benchmarking study from System1 and JCDecaux has run stacks of Australian Out-of-Home ads through its globally-renowned effectiveness scoring system and drawn a stark conclusion: 70 per cent of outdoor ads fail to move the needle. Andrew Tindall, SVP – Global Partnerships at System1, goes even further: “No-one understands how…
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CDP Payoffs and Pitfalls: Australian brands are slashing customer acquisition costs, gaining behavioural insights, and getting ready for AI in their customer data tech but the devil hits in implementation ...
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47:00Host: Andrew Birmingham, Editor - CX | Martech | Ecom Two years after a Mi3 published a comprehensive analysis of the customer data market in Australia, we revisited many of the brands we spoke with to assess their progress and measure their return. Companies that have persevered are realising strong returns and extending beyond their early use cas…
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SCA backs hyper-local radio, earlier ad integration to beat rival’s $200m metro talent transplant, rides anti-global, anti-algo new wave
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33:07Rival radio networks are transplanting big talent from Sydney and trying to make it work in Melbourne. SCA Chief Content Officer, Dave Cameron, is taking the opposite strategy. Local talent that “speaks the language of the city” and gets the “fabric” of its suburbs is particularly crucial for breakfast audiences, he says. Plus, as platforms and con…
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'Marketers are buying this’: Pitfalls and ‘lies’ to avoid on junk user data, clean room matching, MMM, incrementality tests - and B2B tech: Melbourne Business School Associate Professor Nico Neumann
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46:27Nico Neumann is deep in the weeds on digital marketing attribution, market mix modelling [MMM] and incrementality testing – likewise the dangers of narrow audience targeting and junk user data - the latter a $20bn market in the US alone. The Melbourne Business School Associate Professor in 2019 published research proving that closing your eyes and …
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Flywheels over funnels, intimacy, ‘low martech’ and influence over mass ‘shotgun’ reach: Four Pillars cofounder on repeating the trick globally under Kirin-owned Lion
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1:01:19Four Pillars Gin is now four times the size of the entire Australian premium gin category when it started in 2013. Much of the category’s explosive growth is down to three cofounders having a crack, while seeing off the cops, who thought they were making meth. Now under Lion’s ownership, itself part of Japanese drinks giant Kirin, two of the founde…
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The fractional CMO explosion: Why the emerging exec gig economy is giving experienced marketing leaders freedom to leverage their craft without political and organisational angst
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58:40When experienced B2B marketer and former agency planner Taz Bareham decided to take on the title of 'Fractional CMO' three years ago, there were a handful of people on LinkedIn using the moniker. Fast forward to today, and the supply pipeline has grown to thousands, even outpacing solidly growing demand for these forms of executives. Why? Better wo…
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Faster decisions that move profit needle, quantifying loyalty programs' dollar value: Where Optus and Michael Hill go next with MMM
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42:07The upside of market mix modelling (MMM) is it “certainly helps with credibility,” when proving marketing’s return on investment, per Optus consumer marketing boss Cam Luby. The downside is that it spits out a shedload of data. Hence Mutinex combining its real-time MMM platform with an AI-powered co-pilot called Hendren to hep marketers more easily…
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Maurice Blackburn flags Australian publisher class action against Google for alleged bid rigging, Meta collusion; $8bn Canadian publisher lawsuit paves way
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44:02Australian law firm Maurice Blackburn is investigating a publisher class action against Google in a strikingly similar $8 billion lawsuit already underway in Canada – led by a tiny regional community publishing boss, Lisa Sygutek, who won’t be cowed. “Find your inner warrior, sign-up, go for it,” she urges Australian media owners. Miranda Nagy, the…
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B2B’s hard new playbook: Don’t bet everything on chasing marketing qualified leads – most buyers call you and have already made their choice when they do
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27:21The B2B world is a market where you don't call customers, customers call you - although it’s the opposite of widespread B2B marketing assumptions and practice today. A B2B awakening is underway as business marketers see increasing evidence that an under-investment in B2B brand work leads to a sea of sameness and mediocre results among buyers – acro…
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LiSTNR Adtech Hub pushes digital audio network to break even a year early as agencies, brands pile-in; new APIs, ANZ spend data, retargeting and Scope3 CO2 mapping next
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26:32SCA in March launched three big tech bets for its LiSTNR master app – a customer data platform (CDP), customer-specific data matching clean rooms and dynamic creative optimisation. The bets are paying off and SCA is no longer reliant on third party data sources. Execs say the platform and its 2.1m logged-in users already command over 40 per cent of…
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Active attention for longer: Out of home study goes global as MRC moves on attention metrics, signalling programmatic surge, challenger brand boost
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30:31A decade after launching viewability metrics, the Media Ratings Council is moving to standardise attention metrics globally. That means buying media based on attention metrics will scale faster. But a world first out of home study into attention by QMS and Amplified Intelligence is already going global – and the findings for brands are huge. In sho…
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TikTok-Tracksuit data: 60% brand awareness triples conversion; 37% awareness is sweet spot for DTCs, start-ups
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46:06TikTok marketing science chief Rory Dolan says performance media costs are soaring while conversions flatline. He has the data to prove it. After mapping TikTok platform activity with Tracksuit’s brand tracking data, Dolan has one key message – invest in brand to boost conversion and beat biddable auction inflation: “Advertisers with 60 per cent-pl…
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Writing for bots: Conversational commerce ‘explosion’ set to trigger up to $200bn in global brand content contracts – Deloitte Digital
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53:29Six months ago conversational commerce wasn’t really on the radar of Deloitte Digital’s National Partner Lead Leon Doyle. Now Doyle is reorganising his entire content team around it – and believes it’s coming at the $200bn content industry like a freight train. AI-powered chatbots and the speed at which all major platforms are developing and deploy…
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‘Really mediocre outcomes’: Oxford Uni professor says Byron Sharp and Ehrenberg-Bass’ marketing science rules no longer hold – 1,000 campaigns, 1 million customer journeys as evidence
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56:58Associate Professor Felipe Thomaz, of University of Oxford’s Saïd Business School, suggests Professor Byron Sharp’s best known book, How Brands Grow, is a misnomer – it’s actually about how big brands keep big marketshare, not how they got there. He also says it’s based on flaws within Andrew Ehrenberg’s earlier work, primarily static markets and a…
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Enforcement mode: Privacy Commissioner Carly Kind takes aim at widespread pixel data spillage, loyalty, data enrichment, broking and geolocation targeting under existing laws
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48:27Privacy Commissioner Carly Kind was “surprised” – read underwhelmed – by the first tranche of Privacy Act legislation laid before parliament last month. But she says the hard stuff is still coming after the election, which means businesses now diverting budgets away from compliance to other activities may regret it, especially as the regulator has …
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‘There’s a lot of junk’: Top VC firm Luma Partners’ Terry Kawaja says adtech ‘refuses to grow up’, did ‘a terrible job’ on privacy, backs ad activists to force a clean-up and says a Google ad break-up ...
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40:21Part One: Seven companies now account for a third of the total value of the US S&P 500 – and the bulk of their collective trillions in market value happens to come from marketers and advertising. It’s a crazy number, but Terry Kawaja, the fast talking banker, considered by some the ‘godfather’ of adtech start-up investment, says another wave of adv…
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Paramount global and local sales chiefs on converged trading, blended CPMs and why allowing streaming subscribers to opt into ad tiers is optimal
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33:41Paramount went early on both converged trading and a streaming ad tier in the US. Now it’s doing likewise in Australia and Lee Sears, Paramount’s international ad sales chief, thinks both plays will pay off for the media and entertainment conglomerate, its advertisers and crucially – viewers. Unlike some rivals, Paramount didn’t push subscribers au…
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