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Part 1: Dating After 30, Singleness, and Other Questions Answered
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1:05:00No one is really talking about what it’s like to be single in your 30s, or after you’re divorced or widowed, but it’s time to have a mature conversation about it. The Perrys are joined by two friends – Ebenezer and Megan – to talk about their separate experiences. Ebenezer Endiryas is a single pastor who longs to be married one day, and Megan Ashle…
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Let’s Talk Gospel, CCM, and Why it Matters With Erica Cambell
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1:11:32Jackie and Preston are joined on the podcast by Gospel music legend Erica Campbell for a conversation on Christian genres and the role of music in our walks as Christ followers. They discuss how race and different cultural experiences factor into the music played in our churches, and how the social media algorithm influences our perception of Chris…
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Loving People When You Don't Want To With Toni Collier
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1:05:14Each one of us is worthy of deep and intentional relationships. Just look at the life of Jesus and His close circles of community. God’s design is for us to be with people, but relationships are hard. The Perrys are joined by Toni Collier to talk about her new book, Don’t Try This Alone: How to Build Deep Community When You Want to Hide from Your P…
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Sometimes coming to Christian faith means that life gets harder and we don’t like that. We will all find ourselves in moments or seasons of discouragement, but we can wrestle through it with reverence. The main way to fight discouragement is by having a knowledge of God’s Word that helps you lean into Christ, and in this week’s episode, the Perrys …
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Unforgiveness, Raising Kids in the Last Days, and Proud Preachers: A Q&A Episode
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1:02:56The Perrys' Q&A episodes are some of your favorites. In this one, the Perrys answer questions from their Instagram followers, covering topics related to evangelism, marriage, parenting, recognition, and forgiveness. How do you know if you are called to evangelize? Is it okay if a husband and wife attend different churches? What if you’re hesitant t…
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After their “Act Like a Man” episode, the Perrys thought it would be beneficial to also have a conversation on womanhood. When Jackie first became a believer, she felt as though many books she read on womanhood leaned heavily on cultural contexts or norms instead of Biblical frameworks. As she has become more comfortable in her femininity, she’s le…
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Navigating Church Culture Differences With Humility
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48:03God’s people are represented in more than just your immediate Christian circle and cultural context. And if we are as Christ followers are indwelt with the Holy Spirit, there’s always something to learn from one another. The Perrys reflect on their experiences inside different church settings, denominations, and faith expressions throughout their m…
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Christianity is an intellectual faith, and the Lord wants us to use our minds. We see that in passages that say “Think on these things” or “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength.” But how do you know if you’ve made an idol out of knowledge? You might find yourself critiquing and correcting more than you build others up…
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You won’t always have uninterrupted affection for the things God has called you to, and that’s normal. So what do you do when you feel like you hate being at home? Home can be a stressful and overwhelming place, one that is completely “others” oriented. Our spouses and kids depend on us. We have responsibilities that cannot be ignored. The mundane …
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Why Y'all Not Talking Bout The Cross No More
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1:18:57We are losing sight of the simplicity of the gospel message, and we’ve got to get back to the basics. In this episode, Jackie and Preston discuss why it is that we don’t focus enough on Jesus’ redemptive work on the cross. Our sin is a big reason. We forget about God’s wrath and why we need to be saved in the first place. We get caught up in a work…
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In 1 Corinthians, Paul says, “Act like men, be strong.” But what does manhood look like? In this episode, Preston explores some of his earliest views of masculinity as a kid and what it meant to “be a man.” The development of our identity is shaped by both parents in unique ways, so the Perrys talk about the dynamics of being nurtured – or not – by…
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It’s been a minute since the Perrys dedicated an episode to the topic of prayer, and they realize they pray differently today than they did back then. Just as sanctification changes who you are, it also changes your prayer life, so what do their prayers look like now? Jackie and Preston also take a look at several examples of prayer in the Bible. S…
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How to Be A Christian on Social Media
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1:14:09The Perrys are back after many months away spent tending to their souls and their family. The time offline was good and at times “profoundly boring,” but as they re-engage with social media, they’ve got some thoughts. The Perrys discuss what scripture has to say about our character, and how Christians ought to be on social media because of what the…
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Best of WTP: How To Fight For Your Marriage
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1:26:30While the podcast is on a break until summer, we're revisiting some of the Perrys’ most popular episodes. If marriage feels difficult, it’s not because you and your spouse are incompatible. It’s because you’re married. On today’s episode, Jackie and Preston are joined by mentors and friends CD and Melody Fabien for a conversation about fighting for…
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Best of WTP: Conflict, Confrontation, and Arguing Well
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51:49While the podcast is on a break until summer, we're revisiting some of the Perrys’ most popular episodes. Confrontation is a necessary function of a healthy relationship and it can create more intimacy. But how do we honor God and one another as we move through conflict? The Perrys have some thoughts from what they’ve learned over the years. Subscr…
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Best of WTP: Men, Marriage, Sex, and Kevin Samuels
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1:13:06While the podcast is on a break until summer, we're revisiting some of the Perrys’ most popular episodes.Here's an episode from June 2023 with Jackie and Preston's friend Ezekiel Azonwu. Culture discourages men from being in community, and many men are confused about their call and spiritual giftedness. But guys are crying out for discipleship and …
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Best of WTP: Mormonism, Homosexuality, Parenting Tips & More
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54:35While the podcast is on a break until summer, we're revisiting some of the Perrys’ most popular episodes. In this episode from February 2023, Jackie and Preston sit down and answer questions sent in from their former Patreon community. Subscribe to the Perrys' newsletter: https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s Join Preston's discipleship co…
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Social Media Break, Slander, and Sanctification
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58:13After a fruitful yet exhausting year, the Perrys talk about the future of the podcast and their public ministry. They discuss whether or not they did too much, what they’ve learned about rhythms of rest, how God has used success and scrutiny to make them more like Jesus, and the gifts and dangers of social media. While some ministry will still cont…
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The Forgotten Art of Lament with Sarah Benibo
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1:00:57Today’s podcast guest, Sarah Benibo, joins Jackie and Preston to discuss the church’s relationship with lament – or lack thereof – and the reality that we can still worship God through our expression of sorrow and grief. She explains how we are to lament by pointing to N.T. Wright’s quote that says “Lament is an appeal to God based on confidence in…
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What if Porn Was Actually Satanic? An Honest Conversation With Ray Ortlund
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42:43Ray Ortlund is back on the podcast to discuss the topics of pornography, human dignity, sexuality, and marriage. As a pastor, Ray has come to realize that porn is the wallpaper of our culture. It’s everywhere. We’re not just looking at it; it’s looking for us. So how are we to respond and fight back with the gospel in mind? Grab a copy of Ray’s boo…
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Family and Parenting with Generations in Mind: A Conversation With The Ortlunds
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59:46The “unimpressive” life you live today is really important. Even the mundane matters. God is using it and will bless you and future generations through your faithfulness. These are reminders from Ray and Jani Ortlund, who join the Perrys on the podcast to impart their wisdom from their 53-year journey in marriage and parenting. Ray founded Immanuel…
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How to Be a Christian During Election Season with Justin Giboney
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46:52Justin Giboney joins the Perrys for a conversation on politics. Justin is the co-founder of the AND Campaign, a Christian civic organization for raising civic literacy among Christians so that we can engage in a better way. He talks with the Perrys about the idea that our public witness doesn’t belong to either political party, and that parties are…
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Christian Endurance, Fashion, and People Pleasing (A Q&A Episode)
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1:00:38It’s been a minute since the Perrys have recorded a Q&A episode, but we’ve got one for you this week. Jackie and Preston start off deep, talking about enduring hard things as Christ followers, including experiencing true spiritual warfare. They discuss topics such as fashion and aesthetics, finding the right church, talking to your kids about other…
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Parenting Children with Special Needs and More with Megan Ashley
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1:16:12Megan Ashley joins the Perrys to talk about her upbringing, faith journey, and hardships of the past several years. As a mom to a child with autism, Megan believes the church should step in to support families, and she’s advocating for churches to become more conscious of special needs. Jackie, Preston and Megan Ashley also talk about the dichotomy…
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The State of the American Church: A Conversation with Pastor Philip Anthony Mitchell (Part Two)
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1:08:03Philip Anthony Mitchell is back for Part Two of his conversation with the Perrys, talking about problems with the American church. We're seeing a drift from Orthodox Christianity and a growing dishonor for Jesus. Rampant idolatry, insensitivity to sin, leaders who are living in open rebellion to God, people clapping in rooms as they're listening to…
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