Best Poolside Chats Podcasts (2026)

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Explaining Eval Engineering | Galileo's Vikram Chatterji 37:14

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You've heard of evaluations—but eval engineering is the difference between AI that ships and AI that's stuck in prototype. Most teams still treat evals like unit tests: write them once, check a box, move on. But when you're deploying agents that make real decisions, touch real customers, and cost real money, those one-time tests don't cut it. The c…

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Debunking AI's Environmental Panic | Andy Masley 59:02

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AI is destroying the planet—or so we've been told. This week on Chain of Thought, we tackle one of the most persistent and misleading narratives in the AI conversation. Andy Masley, Director of Effective Altruism DC, joins host Conor Bronsdon to fact-check the absurd AI environmental claims you've heard at parties, in articles, and even in bestsell…

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The Critical Infrastructure Behind the AI Boom | Cisco CPO Jeetu Patel 1:18:10

2M ago1:18:10

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AI is accelerating at a breakneck pace, but model quality isn’t the only constraint we face.. There are major infrastructure requirements, energy needs, security, and data pipelines to run AI at scale. This week on Chain of Thought, Cisco’s President and Chief Product Officer Jeetu Patel joins host Conor Bronsdon to reveal what it actually takes to…

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Beyond Transformers: Maxime Labonne on Post-Training, Edge AI, and the Liquid Foundation Model Breakthrough 52:30

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The transformer architecture has dominated AI since 2017, but it’s not the only approach to building LLMs - and new architectures are bringing LLMs to edge devices Maxime Labonne, Head of Post-Training at Liquid AI and creator of the 67,000+ star LLM Course, joins Conor Bronsdon to challenge the AI architecture status quo. Liquid AI’s hybrid archit…

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Architecting AI Agents: The Shift from Models to Systems | Aishwarya Srinivasan, Fireworks AI Head of AI Developer Relations 53:25

3M ago53:25

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Most AI agents are built backwards, starting with models instead of system architecture. Aishwarya Srinivasan, Head of AI Developer Relations at Fireworks AI, joins host Conor Bronsdon to explain the shift required to build reliable agents: stop treating them as model problems and start architecting them as complete software systems. Benchmarks alo…

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The accidental algorithm: Melisa Russak, AI research scientist at WRITER 21:09

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This week, we're doing something special and sharing an episode from another podcast we love: The Humans of AI by our friends at Writer. We're huge fans of their work, and you might remember Writer's CEO, May Habib, from the inaugural episode of our own show. From The Humans of AI: Learn how Melisa Russak, lead research scientist at WRITER, stumble…

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If Code Generation is Solved What's Next? | Graphite’s Greg Foster 54:39

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The incredible velocity of AI coding tools has shifted the critical bottleneck in software development from code generation to code reviews. Greg Foster, Co-Founder & CTO of Graphite, joins the conversation to explore this new reality, outlining the three waves of AI that are leading to autonomous agents spawning pull requests in the background. He…

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Vercel's Playbook for AI Agents: From Vibe Check to Production | Malte Ubl 54:24

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What’s the first step to building an enterprise-grade AI tool? Malte Ubl, CTO of Vercel, joins us this week to share Vercel’s playbook for agents, explaining how agents are a new type of software for solving flexible tasks. He shares how Vercel's developer-first ecosystem, including tools like the AI SDK and AI Gateway, is designed to help teams mo…

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From Demo to Defensibility: How to Build an AI Business that Lasts | Aurimas Griciūnas 51:46

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The technological moat is eroding in the AI era, what new factors separate a successful startup from the rest? Aurimas Griciūnas, CEO of SwirlAI, joins the show to break down the realities of building in this new landscape. Startup success now hinges on speed, strong financial backing, or immediate distribution. Aurimas warns against the critical m…

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Mindset Over Metrics: How to Approach AI Engineering | Hamel Husain 42:09

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As we enter the era of the AI engineer, the biggest challenge isn't technical - it's a shift in mindset. Hamel Husain, a leading AI consultant and luminary in the eval space, joins the podcast to explore the skills and processes needed to build reliable AI. Hamel explains why many teams relying on vanity dashboards and a "buffet of metrics" experie…

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How AI Velocity is Rewriting the Rules for Engineering Leaders | ChatPRD's Claire Vo 42:55

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What if your next competitor is not a startup, but a solo builder on a side project shipping features faster than your entire team? For Claire Vo, that's not a hypothetical. As the founder of ChatPRD, formerly the Chief Product and Technology Officer at LaunchDarkly, and host of the How I AI podcast, she has a unique vantage point on the driving fo…

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Building an AI-Native Startup | GrowthX's Marcel Santilli 23:53

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How do you build an AI-native company to a $7M run rate in just six months? According to Marcel Santilli, Founder and CEO of GrowthX, the secret isn't chasing the next frontier model, it's mastering the "messy middle." Drawing on his deep experience at Scale AI and Deepgram, Marcel joins host Conor Bronsdon to share his framework for building durab…

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Can AI Fix Healthcare? | Corti's Andreas Cleve 47:11

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AI isn't just changing healthcare; it's providing the essential help needed to unlock a trillion-dollar opportunity for better care. Andreas Cleve, CEO & Co-founder of Corti, steps in to shed light on AI's immense, yet often misunderstood, transformative potential in this high-stakes environment. Andreas refutes the narrative of healthcare being sl…

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Mastering Multi-Agent Systems | MongoDB’s Mikiko Chandrasekhar 40:23

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AI agents offer unprecedented power, but mastering agent reliability is the ultimate challenge for agentic systems to actually work in production. Mikiko Chandrashekar, Staff Developer Advocate at MongoDB, whose background spans the entire data-to-AI pipeline, unveils MongoDB's vision as the memory store for agents, supporting complex multi-agent s…

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The AI Agent Trust Gap: Bridging Risk to Reliability | Elastic’s Philipp Krenn 44:11

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The age of ubiquitous AI agents is here, bringing immense potential - and unprecedented risk. Hosts Conor Bronsdon and Vikram Chatterji open the episode by discussing the urgent need for building trust and reliability into next-generation AI agents. Vikram unveils Galileo's free AI reliability platform for agents, featuring Luna 2 SLMs for real-tim…

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Architecting Reliable Agentic AI | Cisco’s Giovanna Carofiglio on the AGNTCY Collective 41:02

6M ago41:02

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The Internet of Agents is rapidly taking shape, necessitating innovative foundational standards, protocols, and evaluation methods for its success. Recorded at Cisco's office in San Jose, we welcome Giovanna Carofiglio, Distinguished Engineer and Senior Director at Outshift by Cisco. As a leader of the AGNTCY Collective (an open-source initiative b…

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Taste Is The New Moat | Intangible CEO on Brand, Distribution, and Winning in AI 53:01

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When AI makes creating content and code nearly free, how do you stand out? Differentiation now hinges on two things: unique taste and effective distribution. This week, Bharat Vasan, founder & CEO at Intangible and a "recovering VC," explains why the AI landscape compelled him to return to founding. He sees AI sparking a new creative revolution, si…

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The Emerging AI Agent Stack | CrewAI’s João Moura 49:53

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Unlocking AI agents for knowledge work automation and scaling intelligent, multi-agent systems within enterprises fundamentally requires measurability, reliability, and trust. João Moura, founder & CEO of CrewAI, joins Galileo’s Conor Bronsdon and Vikram Chatterji to unpack and define the emerging AI agent stack. They explore how enterprises are mo…

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AMD's Challenge to NVIDIA: The Open Ecosystem Bet | Anush Elangovan & Sharon Zhou 49:16

7M ago49:16

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How is an open ecosystem powering the next generation of AI for developers and leaders? Broadcasting live from the heart of the action at AMD's Advancing AI 2025, Chain of Thought host Conor Bronsdon welcomes AMD’s Anush Elangovan, VP of AI Software, and Sharon Zhou, VP of AI. They unpack AMD's groundbreaking transformation from a hardware giant to…

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Your Key to AI Success is Hiding in Plain Sight | Cohesity's Greg Statton 45:48

7M ago45:48

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What if the most valuable data in your enterprise—the key to your AI future—is sitting dormant in your backups, treated like an insurance policy you hope to never use? Join Conor Bronsdon with Greg Statton, VP of AI Solutions at Cohesity, for an inside look at how they are turning this passive data into an active asset to power generative AI applic…

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Why Gamers Paved the Way for AI | Databricks' Carly Taylor 49:10

7M ago49:10

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What if the pixels and polygons of your favorite video games were the secret architects of today's AI revolution? Carly Taylor, Field CTO for Gaming at Databricks and founder of ggAI, joins host Conor Bronsdon to illuminate the direct line from video game innovation to the current AI landscape. She explains how the gaming industry's relentless purs…

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The 2025 AI Shift: From Chat to Task Completion & Reliable Action | Galileo Founders 44:41

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AI in 2025 promises intelligent action, not just smarter chat. But are enterprises prepared for the agentic shift and the complex reliability hurdles it brings? Join Conor Bronsdon on Chain of Thought with fellow co-hosts and Galileo co-founders, Vikram Chatterji (CEO) and Atindriyo Sanyal (CTO), as they explore this pivotal transformation. They di…

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Amplitude's AI Playbook: Data, Talent Integration & Agentic Futures | Wade Chambers 47:07

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As AI redefines how products are built and customers are understood, what are the core strategies engineering leaders use to drive innovation and create lasting value? Join Conor Bronsdon as he welcomes Wade Chambers, Chief Engineering Officer at Amplitude, to explore these critical questions. Wade shares how Amplitude is leveraging AI to deepen cu…

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First Code, Then AGI: Software’s Event Horizon with Poolside Founders Jason Warner & Eiso Kant 51:06

8M ago51:06

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Is the prevailing approach to Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) missing a crucial step – deep, focused specialization? For the first time since co-founding Poolside, CEO Jason Warner & CTO Eiso Kant reunite on a podcast articulating their distinct vision for AI's future with our host, Conor Bronsdon. Poolside has intentionally diverged from gen…

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AI's Two Extremes – Foundations & The Frontier | Databricks’ Denny Lee 43:30

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The AI landscape often pulls us between the allure of cutting-edge models and the quiet necessity of foundational work—yet how do these extremes actually connect to deliver value? Join Conor Bronsdon as he welcomes Denny Lee, a self-proclaimed "data nerd" and Product Management Director, Developer Relations at Dataricks, to unpack this very spectru…

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Why Enterprises Need a Different Approach to AI Agents | Lyzr’s Siva Surendira 38:48

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Agentic AI exploded in 2025, but how do businesses move beyond prototypes to deploy reliable, valuable agents at scale? Join host Conor Bronsdon and Lyzr AI CEO Siva Surendira as they discuss the complexities of building and managing AI agents for enterprises. Siva shares his journey creating Lyzr, focusing on making powerful agent frameworks acces…

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Will AI Erase All Language Barriers? | Smartling's Olga Beregovaya 40:30

9M ago40:30

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Are we on the verge of removing all language barriers with AI? Olga Beregovaya, VP of AI at Smartling, joins host Conor Bronsdon to tackle this question, discussing the evolution from rule-based NLP to today's powerful LLMs. Together, they confront the persistent challenges that stand in the way, like the English-centric nature of AI, domain-specif…

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AI, Low-Code, and Shaping the Next Generation of Apps | OutSystems' Rodrigo Coutinho 40:16

9M ago40:16

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What if you could turn a requirement document into a full enterprise application in just minutes? Rodrigo Coutinho, co-founder and AI Product Manager at OutSystems, joins hosts Conor Bronsdon and Atin Sanyal to explore this new reality of AI-driven development. Rodrigo shares insights from OutSystems' nearly 25-year journey, detailing their early a…

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AI Won't Solve Your Toughest Engineering Problems | Honeycomb’s Charity Majors 41:48

9M ago41:48

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Generative AI dominates the conversation, but does it actually make it easier to build, lead, and sustain high-performing engineering teams? Host Conor Bronsdon sits down with Charity Majors, co-founder and CTO of Honeycomb (.io), and the mind behind charity.wtf. Known for her sharp insights and unfiltered opinions, Charity kicks off the discussion…

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Building IBM's watsonx & The Future of Enterprise AI | Dr. Maryam Ashoori 45:09

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Building trustworthy, scalable AI isn't just about models; it's about navigating a complex ecosystem of tools and regulations. Join hosts Conor Bronsdon and Atindriyo Sanyal as they explore these challenges with Dr. Maryam Ashoori, Head of Product for watsonx AI at IBM. To meet these challenges, Maryam explains how watsonx simplifies the AI stack, …

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What is Information Symmetry and Will AI Unlock it? | DevRev’s Manoj Agarwal 40:54

10M ago40:54

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What if everyone in your organization had equal information at all times? Would meetings even exist? This week, we dive into the concept of information symmetry with Manoj Agarwal, co-founder and president of DevRev. Manoj, along with hosts Conor Bronsdon and Yash Sheth, explores how DevRev is connecting data, personalizing schemas, and automating …

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Is There an Agent Bubble? | Spot AI’s Kelly Vaughn 35:15

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Is the agentic AI bubble about to burst? Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI, questions whether the agent craze is overpromising potential and leading startups down a path of unsustainable expectations. Never one to shy away from a hot take, Kelly joins host Conor Bronsdon for a pragmatic look at AI, discussing the differences between …

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Using AI to Modernize Your Legacy Applications | MongoDB’s Rachelle Palmer 43:37

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Imagine cutting your legacy code modernization timeline from years to months. It’s no longer science fiction and this week’s guest is here to tell us how. Rachelle Palmer, Director of Product Management at MongoDB, joins hosts Conor Bronsdon and Atindriyo Sanyal, for a discussion on the groundbreaking ways AI is modernizing legacy applications. At …

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Can Your AI Strategy Be Future-Proof? | Galileo’s Vikram Chatterji 29:16

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This week, we're sharing a special episode courtesy of 'Dev Interrupted.' Our co-host, Galileo CEO Vikram Chatterji, recently joined theDev Interrupted team for an engaging discussion on AI strategy. We were so impressed by the conversation that we wanted to share it with our audience, and they were kind enough to let us. We hope you enjoy it! From…

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The Making of Gemini 2.0: DeepMind's Approach to AI Development and Deployment | Logan Kilpatrick 40:32

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Google’s strength in AI has often seemed to get lost in the midst of OpenAI announcements or DeepSeek fervor - yet Gemini 2.0 is more than good for many tasks; it’s the model to beat - and we have the research to back it up. This week, Logan Kilpatrick, senior product manager at Google DeepMind, joins us to discuss Gemini’s creation story, its emer…

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Episode 115: Physical, Mental, & Spiritual Health. February 7, 2025 59:24

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In Pineland, we recognize to be effective at irregular warfare, one must be physically, mentally and spiritually prepared. Obesity is a significant issue, and according to recent statistics, about 42% of American adults are obese. Jason Dougherty (Be A Boxer) joins Paul & Mike around the campfire to discuss fitness, nutrition and provide some great…

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DeepSeek Fallout, Export Controls & Agentic Evals 32:41

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This week, hosts Conor Bronsdon and Atindriyo Sanyal discuss the fallout from DeepSeek's groundbreaking R1 model, its impact on the open-source AI landscape, and how its release will impact model development moving forward. They also discuss what effect (if any) export controls have had on AI innovation and whether we’re witnessing the rise of “Age…

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AI, Open Source & Developer Safety | Block’s Rizel Scarlett 33:43

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As DeepSeek so aptly demonstrated, AI doesn’t need to be closed source to be successful. This week, Rizel Scarlett, a Staff Developer Advocate at Block, joins Conor Bronsdon to discuss the intersections between AI, open source, and developer advocacy. Rizel shares her journey into the world of AI, her passion for empowering developers, and her work…

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AI in 2025: Agents & The Rise of Evaluation Driven Development 33:13

12M ago33:13

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"In the next three to five years, every piece of software that is built on this planet will have some sort of AI baked into it." - Atin Sanyal Chain of Thought is back for its second season, and this episode dives headfirst into the possibilities AI holds for 2025 and beyond. Join Conor Bronson as he chats with Galileo co-founders Yash Sheth (COO) …

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Now is the Time to Build | Weaviate’s Bob van Luijt 35:22

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"This is the time. This is the time to start building... I can't say that often enough. This is the time." - Bob van Luijt Join Bob van Luijt, CEO and co-founder of Weaviate as he sits down with our host Conor Bronson for the Season 2 premiere of Chain of Thought. Together, they explore the ever-evolving world of AI infrastructure and the evolution…

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Episode 114: What to Expect in 2025. January 3, 2025 46:40

1y ago46:40

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An intelligence summary (INTSUM) is a product that is developed to gain insight into what is happening on the macro level by closely analyzing multiple, smaller, isolated events. It is used in various contexts, including military, government, business, and even economics. Today, Paul & Mike welcome NC Scout back into the G-Base to help develop an I…

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Episode 113: Jeep Show. December 26, 2024 1:07:13

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"Morale is when your hands and feet keep on working when your head says it can't be done." As we close out 2024, Robert O'Connor, author of Jeep Show, joins Paul & Mike around the campfire to remember and pay homage to the bravery and sacrifice of the greatest generation during this eightieth anniversary of the Battle of the Bulge; the last major G…

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How AI Assistants Can Enhance Human Connection | Twilio’s Vinnie Giarrusso 42:19

1y ago42:19

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Can AI assistants actually enhance human connection? As Season 1 of Chain of Thought comes to a close, Conor Bronsdon and Vinnie Giarrusso (Twilio) explore the transformative potential of AI assistants in the workplace. Discover how these assistants function as "async junior digital employees," taking on specific tasks and contributing to the organ…

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Lessons from Deploying AI at Enterprise Scale | ServiceTitan, Indeed & Twilio 50:54

1y ago50:54

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This week, a panel of experts (Mehmet Murat Ezbiderli, ServiceTitan; Grant Ledford, Indeed; and Vinnie Giarrusso, Twilio) join Atin Sanyal (CTO, Galileo) and Conor Bronsdon (Developer Awareness, Galileo) to explore the challenges and opportunities of deploying GenAI at enterprise scale in a conversation that's a wake-up call for any business leader…

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Practical Lessons for GenAI Evals | Chip Huyen & Vivienne Zhang 48:02

1y ago48:02

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As AI agents and multimodal models become more prevalent, understanding how to evaluate GenAI is no longer optional – it's essential. Generative AI introduces new complexities in assessment compared to traditional software, and this week on Chain of Thought we’re joined by Chip Huyen (Storyteller, Tép Studio), Vivienne Zhang (Senior Product Manager…

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The Real ROI of Enterprise AI | HP, ServiceNow & Accenture 41:16

1y ago41:16

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The “ROI of AI” has been marketed as a panacea, a near-magical solution to all business problems. Following that promise, many companies have invested heavily in AI over the past year and are now asking themselves, “What is the return on my AI investment?” This week on Chain of Thought, Galileo’s CEO, Vikram Chatterji joins Conor Bronsdon to discus…

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GenAI Predictions for 2025 | Databricks & Cohere 40:21

1y ago40:21

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Will 2025 be the year open-source LLMs catch up with their closed-source rivals? Will an established set of best practices for evaluating AI emerge? This week on Chain of Thought, we break out the crystal ball and give our biggest AI predictions for 2025. Listen as Sara Hooker, VP of Research at Cohere and Head of Cohere for AI predicts a trend tow…

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Episode 112: COIN in Afghanistan : Lessons Relearned. November 15, 2024 57:10

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Often times, Americans lose focus on the fundamental reason why our government is engaged in a particular foreign military campaign. After all, the last time the U.S. military was actually tasked with defending our own soil was probably seventy-five years ago in 1950 during the Jayuya Uprising in Puerto Rico. Since that minor irritant, America's fo…

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Got Agents? | Weaviate, Unstructured & crewAI 31:15

1y ago31:15

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AI agents have quickly emerged as the next ‘hot thing’ in AI, but what constitutes an AI agent and do they live up to the hype? Join Brian Raymond, founder & CEO at Unstructured.io, Bob van Luijt, co-founder & CEO at Weaviate, and João Moura, founder at crewAI as they discuss the shift to agentic workflows, dissect their architecture, and tackle re…

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Trust, Regulation & the Road Ahead | Writer's May Habib 48:40

1y ago48:40

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From ChatGPT's search engine to Google's AI-powered code generation, artificial intelligence is transforming how we build and deploy technology. In this inaugural episode of Chain of Thought, the co-founders of Galileo explore the state of AI, from open-source models to establishing trust in enterprise applications. Plus, tune in for a segment on t…