The Pool Envy Podcast is where real, licensed pool professionals speak up. In an industry overflowing with DIY chatter and surface-level advice, we dive deep into code, compliance, and craftsmanship that set licensed contractors apart. Our goal is to educate and elevate the industry — teaching safety, sharing knowledge, and helping those who build and service pools do it the right way.
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The Minerals & Royalties Authority is the go-to platform for Executives and Investors in the minerals & royalties space, both for oil & gas and renewables. The Minerals & Royalties Podcast is one of the content platforms leveraged by the Minerals & Royalties Authority to help educate investors on the relevant companies and trends in the royalties space.
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The Intersection of Bitcoin Mining, Data Centers & Oil + Gas Investing w/ Beau Turner - Owner of Abundant Mines
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58:45Beau Turner - Owner of Abundant Mines, a Bitcoin Mining & Development firm based in Oregon joins the podcast to talk all things Bitcoin Mining & Data Centers, how they intersect with the oil & gas industry, and how they compare to other kinds of commodity & sound money investments like gold. **Disclaimer: This podcast is meant for informational pur…
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Don’t Acid Wash New Plaster: 50 Years and Counting — Still Wrong
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25:59If you’ve ever watched a pool Facebook group long enough, you’ve seen the same two posts: the “new plaster day” celebration… and the “is this normal?” panic post with dusting, streaks, footprints, and blotchy spots. This episode is about why those outcomes are often decided before the pool is even filled—especially in the first 24–48 hours. We brea…
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Cash sounds simple. Skipping permits sounds faster. This episode explains how those shortcuts turn into fines, forced tear-outs, insurance headaches, and expensive fixes—sometimes years later, right when you try to sell. Cash jobs and “no-permit needed” promises are everywhere. They sound like a shortcut. But they often turn into the most expensive…
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The Real Chuck Yates Story - Chaos, Candor, & Coding AI
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1:27:08Chuck Yates, long-time private equity professional, fellow podcaster, and self-proclaimed "Galactic Viceroy" of Collide, an AI Enterprise Software company, joins the podcast to give some insight on his personal origin story and where + when his eccentric & outlaw personality came from. Later in the episode, Chuck unpacks some of the workflow automa…
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TPL's Strategy Around Water, Minerals, & Data Centers w/ Lawrence Labanowski - VP of M&A at TPL Corporation
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45:32Lawrence Labanowski - VP of Mergers & Acquisitions at TPL Corporation joins the podcast to break down TPL's acquisition strategy, including the 3 large minerals transactions that TPL has press released since August 2024. **Disclaimer: This podcast is meant for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice. A big thanks to ou…
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Pooling Together Airline Pilot Investment Capital w/ Tait Duryea - CEO of Turbine Capital
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44:11Tait Duryea - CEO of Turbine Capital, an investment fund backed by airline pilots, came onto the podcast to break down his team's investment strategy across real estate and oil & gas. **Disclaimer: This podcast is meant for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice. A big thanks to our 3 Minerals & Royalties Podcast Spon…
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Before Your Pool Builder Buys a Private Jet With Your Deposit
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7:49In this short episode, Jason records from a Florida beach and explains why a simple 15-minute paid consultation can make a huge difference before your pool project goes sideways. If you’re worried about scams, half-finished jobs, or a “licensed” contractor who suddenly goes quiet, a focused consult lets you: Run a line from your contract past a lic…
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Breaking Down Olympus Energy's $1.8 Billion Exit to EQT w/ Michael Hillebrand - CEO of Huntley & Huntley
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50:55Michael Hillebrand - CEO of Huntley & Huntley came onto the podcast to walk through his team's integrated approach to Upstream, Midstream, Minerals, & NonOp, which ultimately culminated in a $1.8 Billion exit to EQT in July 2025. Towards the end of the episode, Michael also walks through the data center development landscape in the Marcellus and wh…
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Certified vs Licensed: They Said They Were Licensed… But They Lied
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13:41Certified vs Licensed: They Said They Were Licensed… But They Lied – They Were Only Certified In this episode, Jason pulls apart one of the pool industry’s favorite magic tricks: calling a certification a “license” and hoping homeowners don’t know the difference. We walk through what a true state license is, what a certification actually means, and…
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Your Unlicensed Pool Contractor Secretly Hates You – The Fast Track to a Lawsuit
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14:38Your Unlicensed Pool Contractor Secretly Hates You – The Fast Track to a Lawsuit In this episode of The Pool Envy Podcast, Jason digs into what really happens when you trust “the pool guy” who isn’t actually licensed—and why that decision can quietly put you on the fast track to a lawsuit. This isn’t just contractor drama. It’s about: How unlicense…
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Your Pool Looks Safe — Until the Insurance Claim Is Denied
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7:03Most pools look fine… until something happens and the insurance company shows up. Then suddenly the “perfect” backyard becomes a liability map. In this episode, Jason breaks down a real-world scenario he sees over and over again: beautiful pools that hide dangerous code violations, old components, missing bonding, gas-line mistakes, bad drain cover…
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Fund Formation & Securities Compliance w/ Tawnya Bell - Partner at RR&A
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1:07:36Tawnya Bell - Partner and Team Lead of the Corporate M&A Practice at R. Reese & Associates (RR&A) joins the podcast to talk all things fundraising, including the process of fund formation, how to stay in compliance, and trends she is seeing across the LP space. **Disclaimer: This podcast is meant for informational purposes only and does not constit…
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Florida Pool Contractor Deposits: Don’t Pay & Pray Summary: Too many Florida pool projects stall after a big deposit. This episode gives homeowners (and honest builders) a clear, statute-anchored playbook: the 30-day permit / 90-day start clocks, how to verify a real DBPR CPC license, the red flags before you pay, and exactly how to file complaints…
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Diesel, Deals & Hydroblast: A Week at Pool Envy (Code-Solid)
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11:48This week had range. Jason tracks down a diesel return-line drip on the plaster truck, spends time sharpening the website and comms, lands the most fun project of the year, and explains why November in Wisconsin is the perfect window to hydroblast and set a project up for a fast spring start. We keep it big picture, not DIY—how we diagnose, how we …
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A Real-Life Landman Story: Battling Pioneer & Exxon in a $500MM+ Permian Top Lease Lawsuit w/ John Paul Merritt - CEO of Pony Oil
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35:28John Paul Merritt - CEO of Pony Oil joins the podcast to discuss Top Leasing in the Permian Basin, why he thinks it is an essential tool needed to maximize value for mineral owners, and how he has been battling Pioneer & Exxon in a $500mm+ Top Lease Lawsuit over the past few years. **Disclaimer: This podcast is meant for informational purposes only…
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Pool Heater Pressure & Volume: How Good Looks Under Code
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9:44Title: Pool Heater Gas Sizing: Heat Without Headaches Summary: Your heater doesn’t run on vibes—it runs on pressure and volume. In this episode we define what “good” looks like under IFGC §402 / NFPA 54 so owners and builders can communicate clearly and avoid the lockout blame game. No DIY here—this is the big picture, outcomes, and documentation y…
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Ring of Safety: Equipotential Bonding Around Your Pool (NEC 680.26)
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7:17Standards & references cited NEC 680.26 intent & scope: equipotential bonding to reduce voltage gradients; overview of (B)(1)–(7). ECM Web NEC 680.26(B)(2) perimeter surfaces: 3 ft zone; 12×12 in copper grid option; four points around conductive shells; note on nonconductive shells. Electrical License Renewal+1 NEC 680.26(C) pool water bonding: ≥ 9…
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Tribal Land Minerals + Incentivizing E&P Development w/ Marian Pasko - CEO at Paradise Valley Mineral Management
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42:10Marian Pasko - CEO at Paradise Valley Mineral Management (PVMM) joins the podcast to walk through her team's approach to managing mineral rights and working interest. Throughout the episode, Marian showcases how their team's backgrounds uniquely position PVMM to work with Tribal Nations, Endowments, Non-Profits, & Accidental Owners and how they lev…
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Stop Blaming Regulation: A Builder–Owner Playbook
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12:50Why do so many pool projects melt down? It isn’t “too much regulation”—it’s too little planning. Jason breaks down the fast-“yes” incentives, missing scopes, and communication gaps that push owners, builders, and inspectors into conflict. You’ll hear a clear case study (gas meter/regulator sizing), the homeowner’s 7 questions, and the builder’s 7 c…
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The White-Residue Clue: Why Your Heater Needs To Breathe
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12:59Tight closets and “creative” vents don’t make comfort—they make risk. In this episode, Jason breaks down the air-in / air-out / room-pressure triad and the simple clues he looks for on real walk-ins: white powder (zinc oxide) on vents, melted plastics, rust trails, and fried igniters. We stay owner-safe and brand-neutral: what to ask, what to photo…
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How Institutional Investors Are Viewing Oil & Gas w/ Zac McCarroll - Managing Director of Real Assets at Apogem Capital
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57:57Zac McCarroll - Managing Director of Real Assets at Apogem Capital joins the podcast to walk through his 20+ years of investment experience in Natural Resources, the market trends influencing Apogem's investment strategy, and why his team continues to be bullish on natural resources. **Disclaimer: This podcast is meant for informational purposes on…
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Pool Envy®: Code • Compliance • Craftsmanship(Trailer)
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1:37This trailer sets the tone for Pool Envy®—the show where licensed expertise meets real-world practice. Expect: Code clarity: ISPSC, VGB, NEC 680—decoded into do-this-not-that steps Compliance in the field: inspections, plan review, permitting, barrier & entrapment safety Subtle nuances the industry misses: hydraulics/turnover, AHJ interpretations, …
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Breaking Down the PHX Minerals Acquisition w/ Daniel Herz - CEO of Whitehawk Energy
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58:49Daniel Herz - CEO of Whitehawk Energy recently came back onto the podcast to break down their latest transactional activity in 2025, including their Marcellus minerals acquisition from San Jacinto Minerals and their acquisition of PHX Minerals. **Disclaimer: This podcast is meant for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment ad…
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The Evolving Role of a Landman w/ Kyle Reynolds - Managing Member of RBG Permian & President of AAPL
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44:08Kyle Reynolds - Managing Member of RBG Permian and recently appointed President of AAPL joins the podcast to talk about the history of AAPL, the importance of Landmen in our industry, and how their roles will continue to evolve in the upcoming years. **Disclaimer: This podcast is meant for informational purposes only and does not constitute investm…
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Leveraging a Fractional CFO w/ Ben Barr - Founder of SG Performance Group
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48:59Ben Barr - Founder of SG Performance Group joins the podcast to talk about how fractional / interim CFO services can help get Minerals & NonOp funds to the next stage of their evolution, both from a transactional & fundraising perspective. **Disclaimer: This podcast is meant for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice.…
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CRITICAL MINERALS SERIES - Graphite Supply & Demand Dynamics w/ Vikram Handa at Epsilon Advanced Materials
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41:28Vikram Handa is Managing Director of Epsilon Advanced Materials, a leading global manufacturer of sustainable and high-quality Anode & Cathode battery materials for EV and ESS. Vikram joined the podcast as part of our Critical Minerals Series to break down the supply & demand dynamics of Graphite around the globe. **Disclaimer: This podcast is mean…
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NAT GAS POWER DEMAND SERIES: Deep Dive on Midstream & Data Centers w/ Eagle Global Advisors
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1:03:52Fritz Curtis (Head of Distribution) & Mike Cerasoli (Portfolio Manager of Energy Infrastructure) from Eagle Global Advisors, a Houston based RIA specializing in Oil & Gas and Energy Infrastructure, join the podcast to take a deep dive on the midstream space, data center development, and how they both will impact power demand, natural gas demand, an…
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Exponential Efficiency Gains From an O&G Trained AI Chatbot w/ Blake Susman (CEO) & Jerris Johnson (Head - Land) at Rowland.AI
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46:01Blake Susman (CEO) & Jerris Johnson (Head - Land) at Rowland.AI join the podcast to walk through their team's new AI powered chatbot that has been trained around the nuances of land management, right of way and energy operations. A big thanks to our 4 Minerals & Royalties Podcast Sponsors: --Tracts: If you are interested in learning more about Trac…
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NAT GAS POWER DEMAND SERIES: Peter Perri - Managing Partner of Jupiter Island Capital
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51:50Peter Perri - Managing Partner of Jupiter Island Capital joined the podcast to walk through the investment landscape for natural gas power infrastructure, including the macro drivers of Natural Gas Power Plants and AI Data Centers. **Disclaimer: This podcast is meant for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice. A big t…
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1031 Exchange Rules & Strategies w/ Alan Brown - President of Petroleum Strategies
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1:09:45Alan Brown - President of Petroleum Strategies, a Qualified Intermediary (QI) out of Midland that specializes in Oil & Gas 1031 Exchange Transactions, came onto the podcast to dive into the weeds on the rules of 1031 like kind exchanges and all of the different nuances & structures that can be leveraged. A big thanks to our 4 Minerals & Royalties P…
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New Ownership & Expanded Strategy for Resource Royalty w/ Beth Good, Nick Berry, and Cameron Rock
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31:02Beth Good - CEO of Resource Royalty and Nick Berry + Cameron Rock - Co-Founders of Berry Rock Homes LLC join the podcast to talk about how Nick + Cameron recently bought the majority equity interest in Resource Royalty and what their new team plans to do going forward to have an expanded offering in the 1031 space. A big thanks to our 4 Minerals & …
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International Oil & Gas Royalties w/ Mark Hodgson - CEO of Atlas Energy Corp
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55:19Mark Hodgson - CEO of Atlas Energy Corp recently joined the podcast to discuss the launch of Atlas and their new International Oil & Gas Royalty + Streaming strategy. During the episode, Mark breaks down the International E&P space, Atlas' underwriting criteria, and why Mark thinks royalty financing will be attractive to International E&Ps amidst s…
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The 1st Ever Minerals + Bitcoin Treasury Fund w/ Matthew Montgomery - CEO of Maevlo Company
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1:05:30Matthew Montgomery - CEO of Maevlo Company recently joined the podcast to discuss his new Minerals + Bitcoin Treasury Strategy that he is executing in his latest minerals fund. During the episode, Matthew discusses the concept of Sound Money, how & why the value of the US Dollar continues to get destroyed through debasement & inflation, and why he …
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Building Americas First Major Nickel Refinery w/ KaLeigh Long - CEO of Westwin Elements
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59:56KaLeigh Long - CEO of Westwin Elements, Michael Woods - President of Woods Capital, and Mark Ott - Managing Partner of Dune Energy Partners join the podcast to breakdown the Nickel markets, including which Countries control the mining supply & refining capacity, the affects of tariffs, trade wars, & geo-politics, and how Westwin Elements is looking…
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What Factors Could Be Driving Commodity Price Volatility? w/ Matt Marshall - President of AEGIS CTA
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49:39Matt Marshall - President of AEGIS Commodity Trading Advisors (CTA) comes onto the podcast to break down all of the different factors at play that could potentially effect Oil & Natural Gas prices going forward. Throughout the episode, Matt comments on Tariffs & Sanctions, Geo-Political tensions in the Middle East, Data Center & Gulf Coast LNG Dema…
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Breaking Down a $905mm DJ Basin Minerals Acquisition w/ Charlie Shufeldt - CEO of Elk Range Royalties
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39:25Charlie Shufeldt - CEO of Elk Range Royalties came back onto the podcast to walk through their notable transactions over the last 18-24 months, including their most recent $905mm DJ Basin acquisition from Oxy in Q1 2025. A big thanks to our 4 Minerals & Royalties Podcast Sponsors: --Tracts: If you are interested in learning more about Tracts title …
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PHILANTHROPY SERIES: Overcoming Leukemia & Lymphoma w/ Denna Arias, Cory Mcintire, and Greg Cohen
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35:29Denna Arias from Energy Domain, Cory Mcintire from Wilbanks Reserve Corporation, and Greg Cohen from the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society (LLS) join the Philanthropy Series to discuss their personal journey's battling blood cancer, the advancements that have been made over the years, and what LLS is doing to raise awareness in order to help fund ongoi…
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1-90 Day Warehouse Financing for Minerals & NonOp Deals w/ Cas Atchison - President of CORE Energy Ventures
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36:32Cas Aitchison - President of CORE Energy Ventures joins the podcast to discuss the launch of their new warehouse financing platform, CORE Financing. During the episode, Cas breaks down the terms of their team's financing strategy for
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Using Self-Directed IRAs to Invest Into Minerals Funds w/ Zachary Silver from Madison Trust Company
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45:55Zachary Silver from Madison Trust Company joins the podcast to discuss Self-Directed IRAs and how they can be used to invest into Oil & Gas Minerals & Royalties Funds. Madison Trust Company is offering a special $100 discount code to listeners who are interested in setting up their own Self-Directed IRA. To leanr more, please click the link below: …
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Can There be a Kelly Blue Book Value for Minerals? w/ Tracy Lenz (CEO) & Whitney Hornak (COO) of Pecan Tree Oil & Gas
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54:07Tracy Lenz (CEO) & Whitney Hornak (COO) of Pecan Tree Oil & Gas join the podcast to discuss their technology & data driven platform that looking to deliver a standardized & cost effective solution to mineral owners who want to understand the value of their minerals. During the episode, Tracy & Whitney walk through their underwriting methodology and…
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How to Avoid Wire Fraud & Create Secure Payment Processes w/ Ben Turner - President & CEO of Verituity
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32:43Ben Turner - President & CEO of Verituity joins the podcast to discuss the payment space, the various types of fraud that can take place around wire transfers + royalty payments, and how their AI driven technology platform goes about mitigating fraud to create secure and verified payments between companies and royalty owners. A big thanks to our 4 …
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NON-OP SERIES: MidCon A&D and Drilling Activity w/ Ben Lusher - CEO of Nexus Energy Partners
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47:47Ben Lusher - CEO of Nexus Energy Partners joins the NonOp Series to discuss all things related to the SCOOP, STACK, Arkoma, and Western Anadarko Cherokee plays. During the episode, Ben discusses the secondary market for Minerals & NonOp assets, the dynamics around drilling activity & forced pooling, and potential merger activity amongst public & pr…
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Breaking Down the Supply + Demand Dynamics of Strategic Metals w/ Louis O’Connor - CEO of Strategic Metals Invest
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46:03Louis O’Connor - CEO of Strategic Metals Invest joins the Renewables Series to educate the O&G Minerals and Royalties sector on the Strategic Metals space. During the episode, Louis breaks down the global supply & demand dynamics of Strategic Metals, their applications to downstream products in the Technology, Renewable Energy, and Military Complex…
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Trump's Impact on Minerals, NonOp & Investor Sentiment w/ Troy Eckard - Founder & Chairman of Eckard Enterprises
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53:25Troy Eckard – Founder & Chairman of Eckard Enterprises came onto the podcast the day after Trump’s Inauguration todiscuss his energy related Executive Orders, the Trump Administration’s Policies, Geopolitics and how they all come together to impact the Minerals, Royalties, & NonOp space as well as investor sentiment in the High Net Worth and Family…
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How O&G Execs Can Invest in Real Estate as a Side-Hustle w/ Casey Gregersen - Owner of Gregersen Properties
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57:44Casey Gregersen - Owner of Gregersen Properties joins the podcast to discuss how his career went from Oil & Gas, to Oil & Gas plus Real Estate Fix & Flips as a side hustle, to full-time real-estate investing with other oil & gas professionals. During the episode, Casey walks through some of his lessons learned over the years, creative ways to finan…
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Energy Transition Royalty Investing w/ Marc Bishop Lafleche - CEO of Ecora Resources
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50:34Marc Bishop Lafleche - CEO of Ecora Resources joins the Renewables Series to discuss royalty investing in energy transition commodities across the globe, including critical minerals & metals. A big thanks to our 4 Minerals & Royalties Podcast Sponsors: --R. Reese & Associates: If you are interested in outsourcing and/or bolstering your legal depart…
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Opining on the Activity of Minerals & NonOp Publics w/ Josh Young - CIO of Bison Interests
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1:17:21Josh Young - CIO of Bison Interests returns to the podcast to talk all things Public Equities for the Minerals & NonOp space. During the episode, Josh opines on the major deals & announcements from the Mineral & NonOp Publics as well as the impact of E&P consolidation on Minerals & NonOp activity. A big thanks to our 4 Minerals & Royalties Podcast …
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Ground Game, Exits, & Operator Dynamics in the Eagle Ford w/ Ran Oliver (CEO) and Court Roueche (COO) from Viking Minerals
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54:07Ran Oliver (CEO) and Court Roueche (COO) from Viking Minerals join the podcast to discuss their approach to the ground game, break down their recent exits, and examine the current state of affairs in the Eagle Ford. A big thanks to our 4 Minerals & Royalties Podcast Sponsors: --R. Reese & Associates: If you are interested in outsourcing and/or bols…
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Acquisition Financing, Ground Game Credit Facilities, and Debt + Dividend Recaps w/ Jared Mills & Gabe Garcia from Texas Capital Bank
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51:48Jared Mills & Gabe Garcia, Managing Directors of Texas Capital Bank join the podcast to discuss their team's multi-decade track record of lending in the Minerals & Royalties space, including how they approach acquisition financing, debt & dividend recaps, and setting up credit facilities for ground game acquisition programs. A big thanks to our 4 M…
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NON-OP SERIES: Drilling JVs in Canada and the Permian w/ Travis Pace - CEO of Fortuna Operating
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1:02:26Travis Pace - CEO of Fortuna Operating returns to the podcast to give an update on their strategy and break down their recent Drilling JV in the Montney & Duvernay in Canada. A big thanks to our 4 Minerals & Royalties Podcast Sponsors: --R. Reese & Associates: If you are interested in outsourcing and/or bolstering your legal department, then please…
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