Libraries Lead! is a provocative podcast about all things information & library hosted by Beth Patin (Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies, Syracuse U), Dave Lankes (Professor, iSchool, U of Texas), and Mike Eisenberg (Dean/Professor Emeritus, iSchool, U of Washington). Information age opportunities and challenges affect every aspect of human existence. We wrestle with such topics as social justice, political unrest, mis- and dis-information, kids, family and adult living; educ ...
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A podcast where guests drop in to talk all things roller skating with hosts Sugu and Sam from Chuffed Skates. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Chuffed Skates is an independently owned, fully skater run & operated company. Want to support us? Shop at https://chuffedskates.com/ ❤️
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Episode 47 (January 2026): Life in the Digital Fast Lane: Who's Drivin' and Who's Ridin'?
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1:05:05Let’s stop for a moment, take a deep breath, and look around at the world that we humans have created and that we inhabit. Here’s a snapshot of what it's like to live day to day in 2026 with smartphones, the Internet, Web, AI, social media, augmented reality, and all the other digital systems that we rely on in various aspects of our lives - work, …
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S04 Episode 10 - @garry.rrr (Garry Manfroid)
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53:21Very long overdue, we have a chat with Garry: co-creator of Brunny Hardcore and the developing mastermind behind the brand. On this episode we talk about creativity, where his passion for quad skating and creating stuff comes from and we shared good laughs talking about saunas, backpack cycling and of course... rollerskating. Support the show…
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Special Episode46 (Dec 15, 2025): Libraries Lead! x Infoversity Crossover Episode- From Collections to Communities: Reimagining Library Education
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35:59In this groundbreaking crossover episode, two podcasts (with Syracuse roots) – Libraries Lead and Infoversity – unite to explore the future of library education. Dr. Beth Patin, Associate Professor and newly appointed Program Director for the MS in Library and Information Science program, sits down with Dean Jeff Hemsley for an in-depth conversatio…
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Episode 45 (December 2025): What’s a Library—And Who is in Charge?
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59:33In case we don't have enough to worry about, in May 2025, a Federal Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals judge dismissed free speech claims in a public library book removal case in Texas. The Court ruled that library collection decisions are “government speech” and therefore not protected by the First Amendment. This is a very very serious ruling. If it …
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S04 Episode 9 - @sof_roller (Sofia Duarte)
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36:04A new skater who has dedicated her time to leveling up and growing her community in Medellín, Colombia. Sofia is one of those who inspire with their individuality into collectivity. Her first video part "Ready Pa Vivir" is featured on our youtube channel and it was about time to have her join us to talk about her experience. Support the show…
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Bonus Episode 44+: Saskia Scheltjens, Head of Research Services, Rijksmuseum, the Netherlands.
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47:29Saskia Scheltjens is the model of the curious information guru. She has worked in the university and museum world in Belgium and the Netherlands, and is currently Head of Research Services at the Rijksmuseum, the Netherlands. Her work at the Rijksmuseum has set the standard for accessibility, data management, and creating truly hybrid cultural heri…
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Episode 44 (November 2025): It’s Mutual! Communities Supporting Libraries and Libraries Supporting Communities
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1:05:33From natural disasters to social unrest to ongoing political and cultural attacks, libraries have consistently stepped up as safe havens, hubs for reliable information, and anchors of resilience. Yes, communities turn to libraries in moments of crisis. But, libraries too face crises – especially right now when our very mission is threatened. There’…
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Erik Boekesteijn, Senior Advisor National Library of the Netherlands, is a self-described Global Library motivator and Library Pirate. In this bonus episode, Dave and Erik talk about story telling and future thinking. Recorded at the AI in Cultural Heritage Institutions September 9, 2025 Meeting.By Beth Patin, Dave Lankes, & Mike Eisenberg
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Unexpectedly, we ended up interviewing Alli right before her cover shot for Fantom Magazine was revealed. Learn more about this specific trick featured there, how to approach scary obstacles, her interesting hobbies, and cross-sport experience as a triple threat on roller skates, inline skates, and skateboards. Support the show…
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Episode 43 (October 2025): You Need a Master's Degree to be a Librarian?
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1:13:05Today, we’re diving into a topic that’s near and dear to us: the pathways into librarianship and the broader information professions—the credentials, the professional development, and, honestly, the things we didn’t learn in library school. Right now, higher education is being squeezed from every direction. Financial pressures are mounting with cut…
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Bonus Episode (Sept 2025) Aaron Chaote is Director of Research & Strategy, University of Texas Libraries
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43:19This semester (Autumn 2025), Dave is teaching a course off AI in Cultural Heritage Institutions. For that he is talking with global experts in libraries and museums about AI and its impact. We offer some of these conversations as bonus episodes, and here’s the first: Aaron Chaote is Director of Research & Strategy at the University of Texas Librari…
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S04 Episode 7 - @lilbanksy (Lauren Banks)
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42:20On a mission to find our guest with the most interesting real life job, we meet Lauren, who has been skating for only a short time yet has already achieved a lot in rollerskating including filming, touring, and balancing it all with her role as a full-time student and researcher. Support the showBy Chuffed Skates
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Episode 42 (September 2025): Dumb and Dumber: The Year of Being Dumb
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1:06:27There has been an assault on knowledge institutions in the past 8 months. Added to attacks on libraries are attempts to shape and control universities, museums, and federal agencies like the Library of Congress, the National Archives, and the National Institutes of Health. Besides executive actions, there have been important judicial decisions that…
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S04 Episode 6 - @mutchmayhem (Loren Kaplan Mutch)
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41:29From roller derby legend to rollerskating icon, Loren Mutch joins us on today's podcast, where we talk about the 2025 Roller Derby World Cup, what it's like to excel in the toughest quad skate sport, and how she balances her love for all playgrounds of skating! Support the showBy Chuffed Skates
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S04 Episode 5 [email protected] (Sela Balías)
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37:52"Drop-In Podcast goes... ¡bilingual! Or should we say, the "Lánzate" Podcast? 🎙️ Today's episode features our friend and co-worker Sela (@sela.selenaa), where we chat about all things design, skating, creativity, and rollerskating in Buenos Aires, Argentina." Support the showBy Chuffed Skates
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S04 Episode 4 - @986____ (Carolina Hernandez)
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52:34In this episode of Drop In Podcast we have a very long overdue chat with Caro! This is one of the very few skaters who makes a living from roller skating. She tells us about her experiences working with S1 Helmets and Pads and Chuffed Skates, as well as how she balances this with creating her own identity outside skating. Caro hails from Colombia a…
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Episode 41 (May 2025): IMLS The Little Agency That Could
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1:12:37Aughhhh!!! We knew this was coming, but it still hurts – even more. As part of the chain-saw destruction of much of the US federal government, the Institute for Museum and Library Services has been eliminated to the maximum extend of the law and ordered to reduce services and personnel to the minimum required by law. All budget requests from IMLS a…
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S04 Episode 3 - @bigb00tysk8rgrl (Elise Koch)
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1:02:08After another long break, we are back with a bang! In this episode of Drop In Podcast we talk to the very lovely Elise aka Booty! This is a skater who has gone from strength to strength in her short skating career. We chat about being a celebrity on HBO's Roller Jams, the ultimate euro skate trip, filming and editing the killer edit Backwash, and w…
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Episode 40 (April 2025) March Madness - Info Style
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1:08:05With Dave on vacation, Beth & Mike also take a break from the challenges and issues facing the library & information field. Since both are both avid sports fans and since it’s “March Madness” (college basketball’s post-season extravaganza) time, they build on last month’s “information perspective” by taking a look at the entire phenomenon while wea…
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Episode 39 (March 2025): Looking at the World Through Information-Colored Glasses
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1:01:10All three of us are hopelessly biased. We look at the world through “information-colored glasses.” This means that when we engage in any and all aspects of human life – work, play, learning – we can’t help but consider what’s going on from an information perspective. In any situation or in relation to any “person, place, or thing,” we almost uncons…
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DeepSeek AI Watch Feb 2025 Episode 38 bonus
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12:13From the Libraries Lead Podcast - February 2025, AI Watch Segment. In this 12 minute video, Dave Lankes explains why DeepSeek is such a big deal. Then, he blows our minds by demonstrating how DeepSeek works and maybe even ... thinks(?) because DeepSeek includes its "chain of thought reasoning and prompting" as it answers questions. Take a look and …
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Episode 38 (Feb 2025): Stop Calling Them Customers!!
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1:03:49Library & information science for decades has focused on the “user” perspective in systems and services. This includes HCI (human-computer interaction), interfaces, features in search and catalog systems, and ways of improving services (e.g., online/chat reference, maker spaces, events). We provide systems, resources, and services and users use the…
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Episode 37 (Jan 2024): Show Me the $$
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1:00:21In the beginning … of our dot com digital age (roughly from the late 1970s) … there was a expectation that information and computer technology (ICT) would be a boon to society. Technology could be liberating rather than oppressing. The hope was that new products and services (e.g., personal computers, the Internet, the WWW, search engines, smart ph…
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In this special final episode of the year, we’re celebrating the best moments, voices, and highlights from the world of skating with The Drop In Podcast Awards! Tune in to find out who takes home the titles for: Favourite Episode of the Year, Most Creative Edit of the Year, Most Underrated Skater, Best Event of the Year, Meme Account of the Year. J…
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Episode 36 (DEC 2024) – The Days After - What Now?
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1:05:41The election is over, and the reactions are emotional and raw. Some people are cheering; others crying. America is still as divided politically and socially as the day before. Putting those things aside, let’s look ahead from an information & library perspective. What’s in store for us as individuals, families and communities? Are there lessons lea…
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Dave explores NotebookLM’s podcasting feature. NotebookLM is an AI system from Google that lets you create a workspace around documents that summarizes, creates study guides, and much more. One of the features is creating an “Audio Overview” that transforms your notes and documents into a two person podcast. Dave was impressed, see what you think. …
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S04 Episode 1 - @estyban_ (Esteban Whiting)
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52:57After a longer season break, we are officially back! In this episode of Drop In Podcast we talk to Texan sweetheart Estyban! We met Esty at the first Quad Cup in Santa Ana, and have loved watching their progress ever since. We talk about roller skating alter egos, competing in skating and coffee making, finding space in skateparks, and more! Drop i…
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EPISODE 35 (NOV 2024) A Once in a Lifetime...Again and Again and Again
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59:11Natural and human-made crises, disasters, emergencies, and catastrophes. Whatever the cause (climate change, poverty, disease, overpopulation, war), it's undeniable that communities and individuals are continually facing daunting problems and challenges across the globe. In the first year of this podcast in Episode 11 (Nov 2021), we discussed how e…
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BONUS INTERVIEW (September 2024) - Rebekah Cummings, Librarian & 2024 Candidate for Lt. Gov of Utah!
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28:21Rebekah Cummings is interviewed by Dave Lankes. Rebekah was chosen to run with Gubernatorial candidate, Brian King. He described Rebekah as: “A mom. A public servant. A librarian. A defender against book banning and censorship. Utahns will be well served by Rebekah’s leadership through her advocacy for intellectual freedom and commitment to empower…
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Episode 34 (October 2024) AI-Corrosion (and Repair!) of Trust in Public Institutions
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1:11:56Corrosive AI: Effects On and Expanded Roles Of Libraries and the Information Field Sigh. It’s not enough that our instantly and continually connected information environment has eroded trust everywhere—including in our public institutions. The Internet, World Wide Web, and social media have been super-spreaders for misinformation (unintended mislea…
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Drop In Travel: Trieste, Italy with Irene Dose (aka @Doom_Skates)
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1:01:18On this special 'on the road' episode of Drop In Podcast, Sam catches up with Irene from Coven Roller Skate in Trieste, Italy. We cover the comedown after the massive Milano Quad Fest event, how to hold onto beginner joy in rollerskating, the ethics of DIY, remembering skate icons, what the future of the industry could look like, where a future maj…
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Drop In Mini: Nicky Hayes and David Jagger
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20:19This mini episode of Drop In Podcast was recorded on Arrente Country when Chuffed Skates made a recent trip out to Ltyentye Apurte to run the first ever roller skating workshops in the community. Chuffed Founder, Sam, has a chat with Spinifex Skateboards Founder Nicky Hayes, and Program Coordinator at Atyenhenge Atherre Aboriginal Corporation, Davi…
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S03 Episode 10 - @_ragnaroll (Kenneth Van Den Berg)
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54:44In this episode of Drop In Podcast we talk to the one and only Ragnaroll! Not only is Kenneth an amazing skater, he is one of the few who have had a pro rollerskate model. We talk all about this process, along with trick names, and the importance of preserving our own rollerskate culture. We touch on how it's felt switching to a heeled skate, being…
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Episode 33 (May/June 2024): TikTok—Is the Clock Really Ticking for TikTok?
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1:11:00TikTok! Used regularly by over half the US population, why do so many either love or loathe TikTok? Is it simply a fun and terrific platform for creating, sharing, and consuming content? Is it an addictive, mental health hazard destroying America’s youth? Is it a major national security threat of Chinese infiltration? Is it all of the above…and mor…
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On this episode we catch up with Wales born, Naarm resident, Ruby (aka @rubyd00m). We chat about the importance of style and the difficulty of identifying one's own style, living at the zoo, coaching the next generation, and most importantly, what pants are best to skate in! Support the show
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S03 Episode 8 - @roller.ret (Miret Pelgrom)
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41:10In this episode of Drop In Podcast we chat to one of our favourite up and coming skaters, Miret Pelgrom from the Netherlands! Ret is one of those skaters that flows with such style and steeze, you might wonder if they've been skating their whole lives. Learn about how long this skater has been in the scene, what other skills she brings to her skati…
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Episode 32 (April 2024): Optimistically Realistic (or Realistically Optimistic) About AI?
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57:24In this episode, we return to one of our favorite topics– the new AI. But rather than focus on the latest “gee whiz” or OMG capabilities, we turn to the societal implications and impact side of the topic. Dave raised this topic wondering if it’s another case of, “this is why we can't have nice things anymore.” Why is it that for world-changing tech…
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S03 Episode 7 - @fat_girl_has_it (Marilyn Scott aka Courtney Shove)
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1:00:53In this episode of Drop In Podcast we talk to iconic skater, Shove, about embracing multiple identities, life after working at one of the world's biggest skate companies, getting married, buying a house, and how to be an influencer when social media can be so toxic. Get a deeper look into the life of one of skating's most popular figures. Support t…
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Episode 31 (March 2024) Ack! School Libraries Under Attack!
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1:04:42What could be less controversial than school libraries? School libraries - dedicated to children and American values. School libraries- keeping school information collections & technology up-to-date and secure. School librarians - seeking to promoting literacy and ensuring that students gain essential information & technology skills. Mom, apple pie…
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Episode 30 (February 2024): INFORMATION Everywhere All At Once
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1:04:11Information and technology are a ubiquitous part of our lives. We cannot escape. Many of us walk around with multiple devices, receiving hundreds of notifications, emails, alerts, texts each day. Much like the 2022 film Everything Everywhere All at Once we are all navigating a multiverse of devices and information sources. We used to talk about and…
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In this episode of Drop In Podcast we talk to our good friend Crooks about co-founding and running @brunnyhardcore, travelling in Europe, carving out their own niche, and the joys of bird watching. There’s lots of laughs along the way, and you won’t want to miss getting to know this legend. Support the show…
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Episode 29 (Jan 2024) Deaths of Despair: Isolation and Despondency
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1:07:21ContentWarning: This episode includes discussions about mental health, addiction, and suicide. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know is struggling with these issues, please seek professional help. It is important to prioritize your well-being and the well-being of those around you. In this episode, we get serious about a seriou…
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S03 Episode 5 - @_chatrick_ (Pat Cummins)
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46:33In this episode of Drop In Podcast we chat to Pat from Albury about DIY mods, being the first skater to hit the Flinders St rail, what the skate scene is like in a rural city, and his future skate dreams. There may have been a few technical glitches in the making and editing of this episode, but we are sure glad we saved it. Listen to why we think …
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S03 Episode 4 - @rollergoolie_ (Karli Craig)
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59:31Have you been wondering when the @skatefantom Quad Skater of the Year announcement will drop? Well, we got the scoop. On this episode of Drop In Podcast, we chat with the one and only Karli Craig who tells us all about Fantom Media's game changing new venture. We also go on a deep dive into Karli's skate history, how sponsorships have changed over …
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EPISODE 28 (Dec 2023): More AI: 'I’m Afraid I CAN do that, Dave'
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1:03:33In recent weeks, Dave's gone down the AI rabbit hole and, in this episode, we’re following him. Besides using AI for creating graphics, Dave’s is using an AI app called Poe to create “answer bots” – AI chats based on one's own content. This differs from ChatGPT and others which are based on large language models of massive amounts of general conten…
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S03 Episode 3 - @keeksonwheels_ (Keeks Vaughan)
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52:17For the last Drop In Podcast of the year we catch up with the winner of The Few Studio’s Most Valuable Skater Award - Keeks Vaughan (aka @keeksonwheels_). We chat about the cross over between roller skating and horse girl culture, how to have a healthy online presence, the ins and outs of creating events, and how to find balance when you’re a mum/s…
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New Drop In Podcast episode alert! We're thrilled to feature the incredible #chuffedcrew member @eshna.g (she/her) in this episode filled with laughter. Eshna shared insights into her unique approach to street roller skating, drawing inspiration from other activities such as parkour, skateboarding, blading and jam skating....And how rotating in bet…
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EPISODE 27 (Nov 2023): EDUCATION IS THE ANSWER! Now, what was the question?
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1:05:20We - Beth, Mike, & Dave - are educators, so naturally we all believe deeply in the value of learning at all stages of life. We advocate for “education” as an answer to many if not most questions, problems, concerns, and issues that people face individually and collectively. But, let’s get more specific about what this really means today and tomorro…
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EPISODE 26 (October 2023): Pitchforks and Torches and So Much More!
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1:04:28We’re back and where do we begin? Beth, Dave and Mike return to the podcast microphones after a summer break from recording, but certainly not a break from incredible developments in the library, information, and technology worlds. Headlines include: Not just censor, but actually close libraries! Invasion of the AIs, aka large language models (LLM)…
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S03 Episode 1 - @vashti_rw (Vashti Rufus-Wilson)
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51:59Starting our 3rd season with a banger! Vashti (she/her) drops in to chat with us about skating for the feels and not the clips, she tells us where she finds inspiration to push herself, and points out how much we can learn from other action sports for the growth and progression of our own community . Support the show…
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