🏉 Welcome to The Overlap Rugby! 🏉 This is Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender. Join rugby legends Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin & Scott Quinnell as they share real stories, fresh perspectives, and dive into everything you love about the game. We'll have legendary guests from ex-pros, to celebrity fans. This is your front-row seat to everything rugby - from unforgettable moments to untold stories. 📍 Available now wherever you get your podcasts and on @TheOverlapRu ...
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Clare Balding: Rugby League’s Decline, Celebrity Traitors & Olympic Memories | Stick to Rugby EP 32
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1:01:35The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes broadcasting legend Clare Balding to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Scott Quinnell and Tom Shanklin. 🚨 Clare opens up about her time at the heart of rugby league, why she believes the sport has fallen behind union, and what needs to change to secu…
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Shane Williams: Wales' Golden Era, Lions Comeback & Gatland Fight Secrets | STR EP 31
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1:22:36Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back as Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin, Scott Quinell and Red Roses legend Nolli Waterman are joined by Welsh rugby legend Shane Williams. From being told he was too small for rugby to becoming World Player of the Year, Shane opens up on his remarkable journey through the highs and lows of Welsh rugb…
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Jason Fox: SAS Secrets, England Bootcamp Chaos & PTSD Recovery | Stick to Rugby EP 30
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1:08:35Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back with a bang as ex-special forces Jason Fox parachutes into the studio for a hard-hitting episode with Katy Daley-Mclean, Lawrence Dallaglio, Topsy Ojo and Lewis Moody just in time for the Women’s World Cup. 🪂 Jason lifts the lid on covert missions, reveals SAS: Who Dares Wins intel, and debriefs u…
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LIVE FROM AUSTRALIA: Jac Morgan's Rise, Beirne Brilliance & Lions in France? | Stick to Rugby EP 29
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15:17Coming to you from Down Under, we've got a Shanks and Scott special episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, break down all the drama from the Lions' final test. 🏆 Was a 3–0 Lions whitewash on the cards? Did Australia do enough to earn their win? And should Rugby Australia be worried about what’s coming next? The lads dig into the ser…
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Were Australia ROBBED? Topsy Ojo on Being Dropped & Lewis ‘Mad Dog’ Moody! | Stick to Rugby EP 28
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1:11:54Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, returns with Lawrence Dallaglio and Katy Daly-McLean joined by birthday boy Topsy Ojo and England World Cup winner Lewis Moody! Lewis reflects on the moment he became the first England player in 105 years to get a red card at Twickenham, relives his 2003 World Cup memories, and reveals the truth behind hi…
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Neil Back: Hand of Back, Banned for Pushing Ref & England World Cup Win! | Stick to Rugby EP 27
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1:14:25Topsy Ojo and Lewis Moody join Lawrence and Katy this week as they sit down with England legend Neil Back for an unfiltered look back at one of rugby’s most fascinating careers. Neil reflects on the controversies that defined him — from being banned for (allegedly) pushing a referee to masterminding the infamous “Hand of Back” in the 2002 European …
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Gavin Henson: Why I Left Wales, Iconic Kick & Lions Test Prediction | Stick to Rugby EP 26
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1:08:57Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back as Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin, Scott Quinnell and special guest host Sarah Hunter sit down with one of Welsh rugby’s most recognisable names: Gavin Henson! 🏴 Gavin opens up about his unique career journey, from filming The Bachelor when he got called up to play for Wales, to what it really m…
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Tom Kerridge: Farrell vs Ford, Michelin Star Chef & Recovery Journey! | Stick to Rugby EP 25
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1:10:46Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back — and this week we’re joined by legendary Michelin-starred chef Tom Kerridge, alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin, Katy Daley-Mclean and Scott Quinnell. Tom lifts the lid on his incredible journey from the rugby pitch in Gloucester to running one of the UK’s most acclaimed kitchens. He shar…
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Mike Brown: Reacting to Controversial Prem Final & Eddie Jones Fall Out | Stick to Rugby EP 24
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50:53Stick to Rugby is hitting the road once again, brought to you by Defender, as Lawrence Dallaglio and Tom Shanklin sit down with England’s Mike Brown. Brown opens up about the mindset that made him one of the Premiership’s fiercest competitors, why Harlequins and England meant everything to him, and how he handled the big fall-out with Eddie Jones. …
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Kevin Sinfield: Coaching England & Raising £10 Million for Rob Burrow | Stick to Rugby EP 23
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1:04:26We take Stick to Rugby on the road again this week, brought to you by Defender, as Lawrence Dallaglio and Scott Quinnell are joined by rugby legend Kevin Sinfield. From signing pro at just 13 to captaining that iconic Leeds Rhinos side and now coaching with England, Kevin opens up about the highs and heartbreaks of a remarkable career including wha…
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Louis Rees-Zammit: NFL Challenges, Rugby Return & Taylor Swift Letter?! | Stick to Rugby EP 22
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53:02The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees hosts Lawrence Dallaglio, Thomas Shanklin, and Katy Daley-Mclean sit down with Louis Rees-Zammit for a rapid-fire, globe-trotting episode packed with personal reflections, jaw-dropping transitions, and untold stories from both sides. Rees-Zammit kicks things off with quickfire q…
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George Gregan: Finn Russell Brilliance, Rugby League Offer & World Cup Glory | Stick to Rugby EP 21
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1:12:07The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees hosts Lawrence Dallaglio, Louis Rees-Zammit, and Katy Daley-Mclean welcome Wallaby legend George Gregan for a fast-paced, story-packed deep dive into finals pressure, Rugby League rumours, and the magic of biggest moments. Rees-Zammit reflects on the surreal moment he was picked…
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Rob Henderson: Irish Rugby Turning Point, Lions Tour Chaos & Meeting the Pope | Stick to Rugby EP 20
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1:01:47The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes former Ireland and British & Irish Lions centre Rob Henderson to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin and Katy Daley-Mclean for a fast-paced and emotional deep dive into Irish rugby’s rise, Lions heartbreak and life on tour. Henderson opens up about his late …
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Shaun Edwards Music Ban, Joe Marler’s Coleslaw Love & Bench Captain Secrets | Stick to Rugby EP 19
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34:32We take Stick to Rugby on the road this week, brought to you by Defender, as Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin and the returning Joe Marler jump in for some front-seat rugby chat (and chaos). From Shaun Edwards banning music in the dressing room, to Joe Marler’s obsession with coleslaw and his death row meal pick — this is a no-filter ride through r…
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Will Carling: England’s Youngest Captain, Leadership & Nelson Mandela Story! | Stick to Rugby EP 18
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1:04:50The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes England’s youngest-ever captain Will Carling to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin & Scott Quinnell for a personal and honest conversation about leadership, pressure, and life beyond the game. Will opens up about being handed the England …
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Adam Jones: World Cup Pain, Steve Hansen Fallout & Lions Chaos? | Stick to Rugby EP 17
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1:07:58The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Adam “Bomb” Jones join Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin, Katy Daley-McLean, and Scott Quinnell for a brilliantly unfiltered chat about World Cup pain, Welsh rugby politics, and his infamous fallout with Steve Hansen. Adam opens up on the toughest moments of his career—from being…
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Henry Pollock: Lions Call-Up, England Debut & Youngest Lion Tag! | Stick to Rugby EP 16
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1:06:44The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Henry Pollock to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin and Scott Quinnell—fresh off the back of his Lions call-up. Pollock opens up on how he found out—live on TV with no heads-up—and the chaos that followed, including a missed call to his m…
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Warren Gatland: Divided Lions Camp, Brutal Selection Calls & Sexton vs Farrell | Stick to Rugby 15
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56:00The latest special episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Warren Gatland return to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean and Tom Shanklin for a no-holds-barred look at the chaos, controversy and legacy of the British & Irish Lions. Back for his second appearance, Gatland reflects on the moments that shaped —…
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Freddie Steward: Red Roses Grand Slam, Marcus Smith Rivalry & World Cup Run | Stick to Rugby EP 14
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56:25The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Freddie Steward to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin, and Scott Quinnell for an exclusive deep dive into his England career, the Red Roses’ Grand Slam, and life at Leicester Tigers. Steward opens up about the emotional rollercoaster of E…
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Stuart Pearce: Health Scare, Rugby League Love & Paul Gascoigne Stories | Stick to Rugby EP 13
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1:06:06The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes football icon Stuart Pearce to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin & Scott Quinnell for a no-filter crossover into rugby, football, and everything in between. Pearce opens up about the terrifying mid-air health scare that nearly ended in d…
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Phil Vickery: First Lions Tour, Battling 'The Beast' & Personal Recovery! | Stick to Rugby EP 12
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1:08:07The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes World Cup winner Phil Vickery to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin and Scott Quinnell for an emotional, hilarious and no-holds-barred look at life in and out of the game. Vickery opens up on the fear of failure that fuelled his career, h…
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Joe Marler: Eddie Jones Era, World Cup What-Ifs & Celebrity Traitors? | Stick to Rugby EP 11
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1:07:10The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, features a no-holds-barred chat with Joe Marler as he opens up about life after rugby, retirement, and the Celebrity Traitors rumours. In this big sit-down since stepping away from the game, Joe gets candid about why he “couldn’t go on,” his unexpected call to Jimmy Bullard, the real…
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Red Roses Win, Owen Farrell Lions Call-Up? & Quinnell & Dallaglio Hug It Out! | Stick to Rugby EP 10
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50:10The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Welsh legend Scott Quinnell to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a rollicking ride through rugby’s past, present, and future. Quinnell talks about his unmatched Welsh rugby bloodline, the moment he nearly dropped the ball before …
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Ellie Kildunne: World Player of the Year, Women’s Game Growth & Social Media | Stick to Rugby EP 9
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59:06The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes World Player of the Year Ellie Kildunne to the panel alongside Katy Daley-Mclean, Lawrence Dallaglio, and Tom Shanklin for a wide-ranging and inspiring chat on stardom, pressure, and what’s next for the women’s game. Ellie opens up on the whirlwind journey from A-Levels to b…
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England’s BIG Win, Joe Marler on Retirement & Marlie Packer Losing Captaincy | Stick to Rugby EP 8
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52:28The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Joe Marler & Marlie Packer join Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a no-holds-barred breakdown of the Six Nations, mental health in rugby, and the realities of life after the game. Marler and Packer reflect on England’s emphatic win over Wales and whethe…
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Warren Gatland: Wales Exit, Captaining Warburton & Has Rugby Gone Soft? | Stick to Rugby EP 7
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59:50The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Warren Gatland to the panel alongside David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for an exclusive deep dive into his Wales exit, coaching highs, and the future of rugby. Gatland opens up about the emotional decision to return to Wales, the brutal …
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Cadan Murley: England Debut, Taylor Swift Love Story & Marcus Smith Experiment | Stick to Rugby EP 6
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56:12The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Cadan Murley to the panel alongside David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a deep dive into the Six Nations, England’s tactics, and Murley’s whirlwind debut. Murley opens up about the highs and lows of his England debut, from scoring with …
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Six Nations Fallout, Rugby’s Dark Arts & Bold Lions Predictions | Stick to Rugby EP 5
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1:04:41The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, gets stuck into the dark arts of rugby—who are the true masters of the game’s most controversial tactics, what really happens at the breakdown, and how far teams will go to get an edge. Then, it’s all about the Six Nations fallout—was Scotland tactically better despite the loss? Are …
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Jodie Ounsley: Rugby vs Gladiators – What’s Tougher? | Stick to Rugby EP 4
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48:32The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Jodie Ounsley join David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for an inspiring and hilarious conversation about her unique journey—from rugby to Gladiators and everything in between. Jodie opens up about growing up deaf, the challenges she faced in ru…
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Eddie Jones: Coaching the Lions? England Regrets & What He’d Do Differently | Stick to Rugby EP 3
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1:12:12The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Eddie Jones join David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a brutally honest chat about his coaching career, England exit, and what he’d do differently. Eddie opens up about his time as England head coach, reflecting on the highs and lows, why th…
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England Run Out Of Gas & Shaun Edwards Untold Stories | Stick to Rugby EP 2
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1:08:10The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, dives straight into the chaos of the Six Nations opening weekend. David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-Mclean, and Tom Shanklin break down England’s loss against Ireland—did Borthwick’s side run out of gas, or is there more to it? Meanwhile, France made a statement against W…
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The First Ever Stick to Rugby with Martin Johnson!
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1:07:02The first-ever episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, kicks off with an all-star lineup as David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin sit down with none other than Martin Johnson. Flats opens the show with a deep dive into the weekend’s events, including his birthday celebrations and the best and worst gi…
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INTRODUCING: Stick to Rugby with Dallaglio, Flatman, Shanklin & Daley-McLean
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1:29🏉 Welcome to The Overlap Rugby! 🏉 We’re launching a brand-new channel with Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender. Join rugby legends Lawrence Dallaglio, David Flatman, Tom Shanklin, and Katy Daley-McLean as they share real stories, fresh perspectives, and dive into everything you love about the game. We'll have legendary guests from ex-pros, t…
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