Best Optometric Education Podcasts (2025)

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#179: The power of letting go: transitioning from daily micromanaging to practice in industry leadership With Dr. Aaron Werner 25:21

7h ago25:21

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Send us a text About Dr. Aaron Werner, OD Graduated from the Illinois College of Optometry, following his father, grandfather, and great-grandfather in becoming a doctor of optometry. He is president of Werner Optometry in San Diego, CA a two-doctor multi-generation optometry practice that provides comprehensive primary eye care services. Aaron is …

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From blank to bank: How a $35 lens becomes a $525 sale by finishing in-house with Dr. Mike Satryan, OD 1:04:06

1d ago1:04:06

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money. My guest on today's show is Dr. Mike Satryan, OD, a partner with Mountain View Eye in Altoona, PA. Mike is a long-time practice owner who brings over 25 years of experience running an in-house optical lab within their practice. We dive into the substantial cost savings his practice has realized by finishing l…

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Why 20/20 Isn’t the Full Story: Dr. Megan Lott on Modern Optometric Care 17:27

3d ago17:27

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When it comes to eye care, 20/20 vision is only part of the story. In this episode, Dr. Megan Lott joins Dr. April Jasper to explore the deeper role of optometry in solving real patient problems. From uncovering hidden visual challenges to delivering care that truly meets a patient’s needs, Dr. Lott shares how optometrists can make a life-changing …

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The home loan balancing act: smart mortgage moves for optometry practice owners with Lee Raykovicz, OD 1:06:38

8d ago1:06:38

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today's show is Lee Raykovicz, OD, a mortgage broker with Go Rascal Mortgages. On today's episode we dive into what goes into the mortgage underwriting process, how practice owners can get creative when it comes to purchasing their homes, the details on what Physician loans actually are and how th…

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49: Enhanced Optometric Services – Here, there and nearly everywhere 29:36

13d ago29:36

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Since COVID-19, a greater number of enhanced optometric services have been rolled out across much of the UK. These pathways have been proven to reduce the burden on secondary care, reduce patient waiting times and have saved the NHS millions of pounds. As a result, Integrated Care Boards (ICBs) have commissioned optometric services far beyond CUES,…

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REWIND: 3 financial lessons learned from my grandpa and grandma that can shape your relationship with money 33:10

15d ago33:10

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Welcome to this REWIND episode of 20/20 Money! Given that my grandpa just recently celebrated his 96th birthday, I wanted to bring back this episode and share it again for new and long-time listeners alike. It's also a subtle reminder about the importance of understanding longevity risk in one's financial plan. I can only imagine the unfortunate si…

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Through the Lens: Reflections from Optometry School 17:45

19d ago17:45

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In this special episode, Dr. April Jasper takes a walk down memory lane, sharing personal stories, pivotal lessons, and unforgettable moments from her time in optometry school. From late-night study sessions to life-changing mentors, she reflects on the experiences that shaped her both professionally and personally. Whether you're a current student…

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Schedule management, pre-appointing, & the importance of listening to your practice w/ Dr. Chris Wolfe, OD 39:22

22d ago39:22

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today's show is Dr. Chris Wolfe, OD. Chris joins me back on the show to talk about why it's important to be intentional about the business decisions you make in your practice and make those decisions based on data and a plan. We talk about this concept through the lens of schedule management and h…

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Increasing optical sales using influential communication with Kayla Ashlee (live on location from BCDO) 1:04:28

29d ago1:04:28

1:04:28

Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today's show is Kayla Ashlee. Kayla joins me on the show to discuss how the communication cues (or miscues) that unknowingly are happening in your office can be both positively or negatively impacting your patient experience and thus influencing the buying decisions of your patients. She shared ex…

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Let's RAGE!!! (a Rant Against Growth Excuses) with Nathan Hayes 1:08:46

1M ago1:08:46

1:08:46

Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Nathan Hayes with Books & Benchmarks and IDOC. On this show, Nathan and I RAGE!! That's right, we Rant Against Growth Excuses. We talk about the common headwinds, obstacles, and challenges that we both hear when talking with practice owners...and how to think about solving those is…

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The Drive to Succeed: Featuring Six-Time Motocross Champion Jeff Stanton 42:47

1M ago42:47

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Join Dr. April Jasper and David Jasper as they sit down with legendary motocross icon Jeff Stanton, a six-time AMA Motocross Champion and Hall of Famer. In this inspiring episode, Jeff shares his journey from young enthusiast to motocross legend, revealing behind-the-scenes stories, lessons learned on and off the track, and insights into what it ta…

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48: PACS – Management of primary angle closure suspects 28:23

1M ago28:23

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Primary angle closure disease is more common in the UK than was initially thought and it is important for optometrists to understand the condition’s stages of progression; from primary angle closure suspect (PACS), to primary angle closure (PAC) and primary angle closure glaucoma (PACG). PACG is the stage we want to avoid, where structural damage t…

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Live from NSUOCO: Top 10 Tips for (Financial) Success for Optometrists 1:18:10

1M ago1:18:10

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! This week's episode is the recording of my presentation at NSUOCO, titled "Top 10 Tips for (Financial) Success for Optometrists." Over the course of the year, I'm privileged to present in front of a variety of optometry schools' private practice clubs and classes. The purpose of the presentation is to help OD…

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#178: It's time to open a Med Spa With Dr. Mila Ioussifova 19:37

2M ago19:37

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Send us a text About Dr. Mila Ioussifova Dr. Mila Ioussifova graduated with honors from the New England College of Optometry and completed a residency program in community health and ocular disease in Boston, MA. She is a fellow of the American Academy of Optometry and is on the leadership team of the Anterior Segment Section of the AAO. Dr. Mila s…

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My Frankenstein practice: how I would assemble the perfect optometry practice 1:00:11

2M ago1:00:11

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! What would I do if I were starting an optometric practice from the ground up? A listener posed the question—and I went deep. In this episode, I walk through everything from choosing the right location (hint: geography is everything) to building the skills that matter most when you’re just getting started. We …

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Crush Your 2025 Goals: Real Talk with Coach Anthony Frison 30:19

2M ago30:19

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Ready to make 2025 your breakthrough year? In this episode, David sits down with longtime friend and performance coach Anthony Frison for a no-fluff conversation about what it really takes to set bold goals—and actually follow through. From training for an Ironman to chasing your personal dreams, they dive deep into the mental and physical strategi…

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Can we PLEASE agree on some numbers (and the KPIs that influence them)?? 39:17

2M ago39:17

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! In this episode, we tackle the confusion around key financial numbers in your optometric practice and why it’s critical to have a common understanding of their definitions. From gross COLLECTED revenue, cost of goods sold, and net operating income, we explore the most important KPIs that influence your bottom…

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Conquering Stress & Anxiety: Empowering Students to Succeed 18:14

2M ago18:14

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In this powerful episode of The Dr. April Jasper Show, we tackle the very real stress and anxiety that students face in their daily lives, especially during high-pressure moments like test-taking. Dr. Jasper shares practical strategies to manage stress, offering expert insights and relatable stories to help you navigate academic challenges with res…

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#177: The Science behind the Technology With Alex Kotelsky and James DiBella 19:26

2M ago19:26

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Send us a text About: Alex Kotelsky is a medical device engineer at Bausch + Lomb where he leads innovative optical projects in the research and development of advanced contact lens designs. With a robust background in both theoretical and applied sciences, Alex has a Ph.D. and has postdoctoral training in biomechanics and mechanobiology of articul…

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An update on Taxes 101: Understanding tax brackets, deductions, and credits for optometric practice owners 48:38

2M ago48:38

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! In today’s episode, we’re diving into the details of your tax return—beyond just whether you got a refund. We’ll break down the difference between deductions and credits, how our tax brackets work, why you should focus on Line 24—your total tax paid—instead of Lines 34 or 37, and what Line 38 might be telling…

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The Art of Delegation from a practice owner's perspective with Dr. Ted McElroy, OD 58:05

2M ago58:05

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Ted McElroy, OD. Ted and I share in a conversation that's on the heels of a 2 hour CE session I did at SECO 2025, which was titled The Art of Delegation. We talk through why practice owners get stuck on delegation, ways to think about becoming more comfortable delegating, the t…

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Oklahoma to Nationwide: The Evolution of Optometric Advocacy 11:29

3M ago11:29

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Join Dr. Kathleen Spurgeon and Dr. April Jasper as they take you on a journey through the history and evolution of optometry, beginning with groundbreaking efforts in Oklahoma and expanding nationwide. In this episode, they explore the powerful role of advocacy and education in broadening optometric services, highlighting key milestones that have s…

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47: Chronic Stress – The brain-body connection 25:49

3M ago25:49

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Stress and burnout, which we explored in the last episode of Sound Optometry, is far from uncommon in optometrists. In this episode, Michelle Hanratty uncovers the severe implications that chronic stress can have on the health of optometrists in the future. How can we reverse its damage? Michelle is joined by Professor Anna Whittaker, a health psyc…

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#176: Unrealistic Expectations With Dr. Nikki Iravani 17:43

3M ago17:43

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The difference between saving vs deferring taxes 47:56

3M ago47:56

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In this episode, we break down the common misconception that tax deferral is the same as tax savings—spoiler alert: it’s not. We discuss how strategies like funding retirement plans, loss harvesting, and depreciation only push taxes into the future, while true tax savings come from tools like QCDs, business deductions, and Roth account growth. We e…

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How practices can benefit using fractional services like a CMO with Daniel Palmer 45:36

3M ago45:36

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Daniel Palmer. Daniel joins me back on the show to talk through a growing service and role in small businesses (optometry included), which is the Fractional C*O service. I use the * to depict the fact that this role could be Chief Operating, Marketing, Information/Technology, and y…

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#175: Life Planning With Dr. Jade Coats 17:43

3M ago17:43

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Send us a text About Dr. Jade Coats Dr. Jade Coats is a 2016 of the Southern College of Optometry in Memphis, TN, and since graduation has worked in an OD/MD cataract/refractive surgery practice (McDonald Eye Associates, Rogers, Arkansas) in which she dedicates the majority of her clinical practice to ocular disease, comprehensive eye care, and con…

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Self-Care Wisdom: Tonya Reynoldson OD MBA Shares Her Personal Journey 28:40

3M ago28:40

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In this episode, Dr. Tonya Reynoldson, OD, MBA, opens up about her personal journey and the importance of prioritizing self-care. Drawing from her unique experiences and insights, Tonya shares how taking care of ourselves is essential for both personal and professional growth. Tune in for an inspiring conversation that will encourage you to invest …

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Making good decisions (and avoiding costly mistakes) when purchasing optometry equipment w/ Rick Norwood 47:30

3M ago47:30

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Rick Norwood, founder & President of Norwood Device & Diagnostics. Rick joins me on the show to talk through an often-discussed topic in practice ownership, and that is the responsible purchasing of equipment. We talk through how practice owners should evaluate various suppliers, t…

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Optimal Health: Preventing Disease Through Diet, Exercise, and Lifestyle (Feat. Dr. Michael Lange) 17:25

3M ago17:25

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Join Dr. Michael Lange, renowned optometrist and nutrition specialist, as he teams up with Dr. April Jasper for an insightful conversation on how to optimize your health through the power of diet, exercise, and lifestyle choices. Tune in for expert advice on preventing disease and maintaining peak well-being, with actionable tips to help you live y…

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Edging in-house vs outsourcing: the economics, trade-offs, and data an optometric practice needs to measure with Drs. Jennifer Stewart, OD & Sam Hornberger, OD 1:14:43

3M ago1:14:43

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guests on today’s show are Drs. Jennifer Stewart & Sam Hornberger, both private practice owners in their respective practices. Sam and Jennifer join me on the show to talk about a topic that admittedly, in over 300 episodes of 20/20 Money, I haven't talked about yet: edging and the decisions around whether…

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#174: The Growth and Success of Their Practice With Dr. John D Marvin 32:33

4M ago32:33

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Send us a text About Dr. John D. Marvin, John D. Marvin is a visionary entrepreneur, acclaimed columnist, and influential leader dedicated to empowering others to unlock their full potential. As President and CEO of Texas State Optical, John has cultivated a thriving business network while spearheading initiatives in health and wellness consulting …

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46: Burnout in Optometry – Causes, challenges & solutions 29:24

4M ago29:24

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A study conducted in Australia found that around half of optometrists experience burnout. One in every three optometrists also live with a mental health condition. We all know what workplace stress can feel like, but few of us can probably spot the signs of long-term stress turning into burnout. That can lead to even more serious mental health chal…

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Providing vision therapy profitably and passionately with Dr. Leigha Nielsen, OD 1:02:20

4M ago1:02:20

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Leigha Nielson, OD FOVDR, founder of High 5 Vision Development in New Braunfels, TX. Leigha joins me on the show to talk about how she's created both a successful practice and a life she loves—personally and professionally—through a vision-therapy focused practice. She talks ab…

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Building Your Practice for the Future: Expert Tips on Growing Your Business & Introducing Multifocal Contact Lenses (Feat. Bill Murray) 18:35

4M ago18:35

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Join industry veteran and expert sales consultant Bill Murray as he shares invaluable insights on how to grow your practice by delivering exceptional value to your patients. Get expert tips on launching your career, implementing innovative strategies to expand your business, and introducing new contact lens options to your patients. Spoiler alert: …

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Think differently about "admin days" in your practice --my guest appearance on "Eye Own a Business" with Dr. Steve Vargo, OD 51:53

4M ago51:53

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! This week's episode is my guest appearance on Dr. Steve Vargo's show "Eye Own a Business," produced by IDOC. Steve had me on the show to talk about something that I've been thinking about for some time, and I used his show to "stake my claim"—I don't like term "admin day" and want to see the profession start …

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#173: How to make your Marketing not suck With Kevin Wilhelm from Marketing for ECPs 27:20

4M ago27:20

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Ideas & strategies on ways to pay your team more without compromising profit with Jackson Pace, CPA 53:16

4M ago53:16

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Jackson Pace, CPA. Jackson joins me on the show to talk about ways owners can maximize the ROI on their team, specifically non-OD team members. He shares examples of ways in which practice owners have brought focus and intention to different areas of the practice, how practice owne…

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Life Lessons & The Future of Glaucoma Care with Dr. John J. McSoley 19:55

4M ago19:55

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In this episode, Dr. John J. McSoley and I take a trip down memory lane, reflecting on the past, sharing valuable life lessons, and looking ahead to the exciting opportunities on the horizon. Tune in for a heartfelt conversation with one of the most skilled glaucoma specialists I know—this is one you won’t want to miss!…

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Stop Jonesin’…measure your success against your own purpose, not someone else’s with Dr. Steve Vargo, OD 49:10

4M ago49:10

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Steve Vargo, OD. In addition to being a practice management consultant with IDOC, Steve is also the host of the podcast "Eye Own a Business" a show with episodes aimed to help independent ODs grow a thriving practice while wearing the hats of both OD and business owner. In this…

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#172: Free Dry Eye Consultation to grow your Dry Eye practice With Nona Kalfayan 21:03

4M ago21:03

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Send us a text About Dr. Kalfayan Dr. Nona Kalfayan is a leading expert in her field of primary eye health, and a highly sought-after physician specializing in treating dry eye disease nationwide. She holds a Doctor of Optometry Degree from Nova Southeastern University (NSU) College of Optometry, specializing in advanced ocular surface disease. Dr.…

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45: Vision and Dementia – Modifying risk for better outcomes 26:52

4M ago26:52

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One in three people born in the UK today will go on to develop dementia — a term used to describe a range of neurological conditions that cause the loss of cognitive functioning. It’s been established that dementia can affect vision and recently, researchers have realised that visual impairment is a modifiable risk factor for dementia, too. In othe…

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Vision Beyond Sight: Understanding Low Vision Assessment with Luke Howarth 51:52

4M ago51:52

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Send us a text In this episode, we sit down with Luke Howarth, a passionate advocate for low vision awareness and a former Eye Care Liaison Officer and Mental Health Assessor. Luke lost his sight in a car accident 10 years ago, and through his own journey of recovery, he has gained profound insights into the emotional and psychological impacts of v…

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How to increase the multiplier in your practice value with Nathan Hayes 1:00:50

5M ago1:00:50

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Nathan Hayes with IDOC & Books & Benchmarks. Nathan and I spend time discussing a topic that was briefly brought up on our last conversation (here's the link to that discussion) which is the importance of understanding the relationship between multiples and the risk associated with…

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Vision and Vital Signs: Detecting Tumours and Neurological Conditions and Pre Reg tips with Lorcan Butler 1:23:26

5M ago1:23:26

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Send us a text In this insightful episode, we sit down with Lorcan Butler, an experienced optometrist and Optical Engagement Manager at the Brain Tumour Charity. Lorcan shares his expertise on how optometrists can play a critical role in detecting brain tumours and other neurological conditions through eye exams. He provides valuable advice for opt…

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Optimizing Workflow and Advancements in OCTA with Dr. Jasper & Dr. Bryan M. Rogoff 31:29

5M ago31:29

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Tune in as Dr. Jasper and Dr. Bryan M. Rogoff, Head of Comprehensive Workflow Management at ZEISS Ophthalmology, discuss effective workflow management in the practice and explore the latest advancements in OCTA technology.

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How direct index portfolio construction can offset taxes on a practice sale with Peter Lazaroff, CFA, CFP®, 50:59

5M ago50:59

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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Peter Lazaroff, CFA, CFP®, Chief Investment Officer at Plancorp, host of The Long Term Investor podcast, and the author of the book Making Money Simple. Peter joins me on the show to talk about an investment approach that has been around for a long time but is starting to become mo…

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Dr. Christopher Wroten on Leadership, Family, and Optometry: Insights from Louisiana and Beyond 12:22

5M ago12:22

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Join Dr. Christopher Wroten as he shares his unique perspective on leadership, family, and the world of optometry. Whether you're in the healthcare field or simply interested in stories of leadership and personal growth, this conversation offers valuable insights from one of the most respected voices in optometry.…

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#171 The OI Show: Starting from Scratch with Dr. Jennifer Stewart 29:12

5M ago29:12

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Send us a text In this episode of The OI Show, Dr. Dave Kading reconnects with Dr. Jennifer Stewart, a visionary in optometry and practice management. After selling her successful large group practice in 2022, Dr. Stewart took a leap of faith, stepping away from clinical care and embarking on a transformative journey of consulting, speaking, and se…

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Ten habits for success, growth, & achievement in 2025 (and beyond!) 53:04

5M ago53:04

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Welcome to the first episode of 2025! In this episode, I take a bit of a trip down memory lane as I recently came across a list that I wrote 10+ years ago. Re-reading it, I thought it would be a great way to kick off the new year and give optometrists & practice owners some principles and habits that can guide and shape how they plan & live their l…

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