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ORT Shorts

Thomas Jay Oord

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Open and Relational theology just makes sense... at least that's what most people say when they discover it. This podcast offers 3-minute short episodes -- "shorts" -- on this perspective on God. Episodes offer insights, inspiration, and information, and a few are posted each week. Dr. Thomas Jay Oord hosts this podcast. He's a best-selling author, world-renown speaker, and leading voice in this burgeoning field. Dr. Oord directs a Center and Doctoral Program in Open and Relational Theology ...
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Meet the podcast that doesn’t whisper to culture—it bodly confronts it. We’re not here to preach. We’re here to pull up a chair, crack open the vault of questions that were met with clichés, distance, or outright dismissal—and unearth every fracture back to where truth still stands: unchanged, unbent, and utterly holy. This is the space where doctrine isn’t diluted, where psychology converges with theology, and where the human mind is no threat to divine reality. We’ll go where the church go ...
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Devices and Desires

Fr. Bryan Wandel, Fr. Andrew Thebeau, James Kibby

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We're taking a deeper dive into the culture we live in. We'll need three things: (1) An understanding of the culture we find ourselves in. (2) A sharp analysis of the cracks in the smooth, seemingly solid narrative that our culture tells us about what it means to live a good life. (3) A new imagination of what it looks like for the gospel of Christ to open up and thrive from within the cracks of our culture. This podcast comes from clergy and laypeople at Church of the Atonement in Buffalo, ...
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In this episode, Dr. Oord interacts with the new book from Chris Baker, The Invitation: How Open and Relational Theology Enhances N.T. Wright's Use of Vocation in Atonement. In this new book, Chris Baker attempts to express the strengths of N.T. Wright's connection between vocation and atonement as seen through the lens of Open and Relational Theol…
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This week I was joined by my friend the Pediatrician and Theologian Dr. Chris Hanson to talk about his new book, "Open and Relational Parenting: Loving Parents Reflecting a Loving God". We take a deep dive into Open and Relational Theology and the insights it has into our parenting techniques. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Open and Relational Parenting (Book) …
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In this episode Dr. Oord discusses the annual upcoming Theology Beer Camp which will include special Open and Relational Theology pre-sessions. This year Theology Beer Camp takes place October 16-18 in St. Paul, Minnesota with the pre-Theology ORT sessions taking place the morning of October 16. For information and registration visit: https://www.t…
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Send us a text What does it mean to be a warrior for Christ in today's world? Not just someone who wears a uniform or carries a weapon, but someone divinely commissioned to contend for righteousness in their family, church, and community. The fight within – our internal battlefield – demands attention before we can effectively engage in external sp…
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This week I am happy to share a conversation that was recorded live at UNION Craft Brewing in Baltimore Maryland. My friend Nia Chiaramonte returned to the podcast to talk about her new book, "I Hardly Knew Me: Following Love, Faith, and Skittles to a Transgender Awakening". We take a deep dive into Nia's story of discovering who she is as a transg…
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In this episode, Dr. Oord discusses the theme of divine hiddenness in conversation with a new book by Tim Miller entitled The Silence of the Lamb: Exploring the Hiddenness of Christ and God In the book, Tim Miller highlights a variety of explanations over the centuries for why a God of love might exist yet seem so silent and hidden, giving particul…
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Send us a text What happens when a warrior awakens but has no mission? They become dangerous not just to themselves, but to everyone around them. In this compelling second installment of our Warriorism series, Chaplain Justin Schalow reveals why commissioning is the critical next step after awakening. The modern world has sold us a dangerous lie: t…
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This week I would like to share a recent conversation I got to have on a different podcast called "The Unraveler". The host, Alan Bondar had me on for a conversation he titled "Does Process Theology Save Christianity?". We had a great conversation that was a lot of fun for both of us. I offered up both Process Theism and Radical Theism as viable op…
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This week my good friend Dan Koch joins the show once again for a conversation I was a bit nervous about... my growing disillusionment with pop-deconstruction and Progressive Christianity. I specifically wanted to talk to Dan about this because he is always careful with his language and also does a good job not buying into the ideology of either si…
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Send us a text Chaplain Justin Schalow introduces his forthcoming book "Warriorism," which addresses the crisis of biblical manhood and calls men to embody both the lion (strength/danger) and the lamb (restraint/discipline). • Many men lack father figures or clear blueprints for biblical manhood • Current men's studies often offer shallow principle…
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This week I sat down with my first ever Brother and Sister duo for a wonderful conversation. Billie and Paul Hoard joined me to discuss their fantastic new book, "Eucontamination: Disgust Theology and the Christian Life". It turns out the psychology of disgust impacts our lives in many ways, including out theology! Eucontamination is a word Billie …
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This week I was excited to be rejoined by Brian McLaren for a very fun conversation about his new book, "The Last Voyage". This new book is wonderful and I genuinely couldn't put it down. McLaren tackles themes of climate change, economic crisis, political crisis, interpersonal relationships, Religion and Science, and what it means to be human. I l…
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Send us a text Have you ever wondered why intimacy feels so terrifying sometimes? Why you push away the very people you want close? The Garden of Eden wasn't just about a piece of fruit, it was humanity's first attachment trauma. When Adam and Eve hid from God, they weren't just breaking a rule; they were experiencing the first spiritual rupture. T…
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Back in July I had the privilege of attending ORTCon. Each night of the conference I hosted a live podcast. Here is the final conversation I had with Tim Miller about his very fun, and very helpful book, "The Silence of the Lamb: Exploring the Hiddenness of Christ and God". We talk about the problem of Divine Hiddenness, explore ways the tradition …
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This week I was joined by my friend Dr. Chad Bahl to discuss his recently defended doctoral thesis, "The Death of Supernaturalism: The Case for Process Naturalism". We all know belief in God is at an all time low and classical theism has become incredulous to many. Addressing such issues as the problem of evil, divine hiddenness, conflicts with sci…
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Send us a text Forgiveness sounds beautiful in theory, but feels like warfare in practice. When betrayal shatters your world, the journey toward healing isn't the clean, linear process we're often sold. Instead, it's messy, cyclical, and demands more than just a spiritual decision. This raw, honest exploration dives deep into what forgiveness truly…
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Back in July I had the privilege of attending ORTCon. Each night of the conference I hosted a live podcast. Here is a wonderful conversation I had with Tracy Tucker about his deeply helpful book, "Can We Talk About Death? An Open and Relational Vision". We discuss how poor we are as a society at talking about and dealing with death. We look into ba…
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This week I was joined by Shannon Kerns, for a wonderful conversation about his book, "No One Taught Me How to Be A Man: What a Trans Man's Experience Reveals About Masculinity". We explore the complexities of masculinity, the crisis many men face today, and the importance of emotional health and community. Shannon shares insights from his own expe…
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Back in July I had the privilege of attending ORTCon. Each night of the conference I hosted a live podcast. Here is a conversation I had with Deanna Young about her book "Unblaming God: Interpreting the Old Testament Through the Lens of Jesus". I was also joined by Joshua Noel from the Whole Church Podcast to help me cohost this episode. Enjoy! RES…
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This week I am joined by my friend Jon Paul Sydnor to talk about his fantastic book, "The Great Open Dance: A Progressive Christian Theology". Jon Paul is a progressive Christian theologian and we explore themes of progressive Christianity, the Social Trinity, Agapic non-duality, and the importance of joy in faith. We discuss the intersection of di…
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This week I am joined by Dr. Kevin Carnahan, a professor of philosophy and religion, to discuss his book 'The Disappearance of Eve and the Gender of Christ.' The conversation explores the implications of traditional soteriology and the role of Eve in Christian theology. Carnahan argues for a more inclusive understanding of Jesus's gender and emphas…
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This week I had the privilege of being joined by Dr. Mark C. Taylor, to explore his works 'After God' and 'After the Human'. We discuss the interconnectedness of humanity, nature, and technology, the impact of climate change and artificial intelligence, and the philosophical implications of anthropocentrism. Taylor shares insights on the importance…
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This week, Aizaiah Yong returns to the podcast to discuss his new book, "Trauma and Renewal: Toward Spiritual, Communal, and Holistic Transformation". Yong shares his own experience of trauma after being hit by a truck throwing him off of his motorcycle. Yong shifts engagement beyond individualist approaches toward a holistic one of community, with…
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This week I was joined by my friend Dr. Leah Robinson to discuss her work around Bad Theology. We talk about the importance of contextuality in theology, personal experiences that shape beliefs, and the complexities of faith in modern society. Leah shares her insights on how theology adapts to different contexts and the challenges of navigating per…
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Today I was joined by my new friend Alan Bondar for a deep and honest conversation. Alan shares his story of leaving vocational ministry and waking up one day as an Atheist... but not only is he an Atheist, he is an Anti-Theist. Alan spends his time helping those "brainwashed by the mind-virus Christianity" de-convert from the faith. I wanted to ha…
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This week Terry Stokes joins the podcast to discuss his book, "Jesus and the Abolitionists: How Anarchist Christianity Empowers the People". Terry shares his journey from Evangelicalism to Anarchist Christianity, exploring themes of mutual aid, nonviolent communication, and the reimagining of sin and atonement. He emphasizes the importance of commu…
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In this episode Dr. Oord engages with the book written by Tripp Fuller entitled, Divine Self Investment: An Open and Relational Constructive Christology. In the book, Fuller offers a robust constructive Christology that engages three theological registers - historical, existential, and metaphysical. Beginning Christology not from above or below but…
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In this episode, Tripp Fuller returns for a late night conversation. We go deep and fast... I ask Tripp about his thoughts on suicide. Tripp then asks me about the existential crisis motivating my current book project. This turns into a great conversation about the relationship between Process Theology and Radical Theology. I end up accusing Tripp …
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This week Barry Taylor joins the podcast to talk about faith, identity, and the complexities of human experience. Together we explore the role of symbolism in faith, the ambiguity and uncertainty that often accompany belief, and the importance of asking the right questions. Barry gets personal as we discuss depression, melancholy, and the search fo…
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Ready for some podcast inception? I came across Jeremy and his podcast "Cabernet and Pray" and figured he would be a fun person to connect with... We decided to do a crossover episode and had A LOT of fun! Turns out Jeremy and I are kindred spirits. We shared a few glasses of wine and recorded a version of 20ish Q's. This was a fun and wide ranging…
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In this episode of the (Re)thinking Faith podcast, I sit down with Dr. Ståle Holgersen, to discuss his book 'Against the Crisis: Economy and Ecology in a Burning World.' We explore the concept of crisis, its definitions, and its implications within capitalism, particularly focusing on economic and ecological crises. Holgersen emphasizes the importa…
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Send us a text What happens when war follows you home? When the training that kept you alive in combat becomes the very thing destroying your marriage? Justin and Jen's story peels back the layers of military trauma, revealing the raw aftermath of Justin's deployment to Iraq—where suicide bombers, mass casualties, and daily firefights rewired his b…
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In this episode, Dr. Oord discusses an essay from Andre Rabe entitled, The Miraculous Nature of Our World in which he discusses and nuances an Open and Relational understanding of miracles. This essay is one of many compiled in volume 2 of a 2 volume work interacting further with the ideas of amipotence in Dr. Oord's book, The Death of Omnipotence …
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This week I am back with another edition of 20ish Q's with my friend Ryan Remington. I met Ryan on the social medias and it turns out we have a lot in common! He seemed like a good fit for 20ish Q's and he didn't disappoint! Enjoy! RESOURCES: Peelakiiyankwi: Processing Liberation Through an Indigenous American Lens (Book) Rescuing the Gospel From t…
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In this episode, Dr. Oord re-engages with a new book from C.S. Pearce and Philip Clayton entitled, Science and the Sacred: Beyond the Gods in Our Image. In this beautifully written book, an atheist (Pearce) and a theist (Clayton) explore the intersection points of science and the Sacred. Despite their differences, both authors find themselves in ag…
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This week I was joined philosopher Dr. Tad Delay to discuss his book "Future of Denial: The Ideologies of Climate Change". We look at the intersections of climate change and philosophy, and the various forms of denial surrounding climate issues. We explore how Capitalism continues to drive and recreate the denial of the Climate Criss and look into …
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In this episode Dr. Oord engages with a new book from C.S. Pearce and Philip Clayton entitled, Science and the Sacred: Beyond the Gods in Our Image. In this beautifully written book, an atheist (Pearce) and a theist (Clayton) explore the intersection points of science and the Sacred. Honestly acknowledging their differences, they discover unexpecte…
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Send us a text Welcome to Theo-Psych, where theology and psychology come together in the pursuit of healing, truth, and transformation. This isn't just another podcast; it's a movement hosted by a theologian and a traumatologist. We boldly explore the raw and often hidden aspects of the human soul: trauma, identity, survival, spirituality, codepend…
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Send us a text What happens when war follows you home—and into your marriage? In this raw and redemptive episode of Theo-Psych, Jennifer and Justin share their personal story of surviving infidelity, combat trauma, and soul-deep grief. As a Christian counselor and Army chaplain, they take you inside the real spiritual and psychological warfare that…
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Happy Friday! Here is a special bonus episode recorded live from Theology Beer Camp. Ilia Delio offers a fantastic Key-Note on the future of religion followed by a response from Pete Enns. To close things out there is a panel discussion between Ilia, Pete, Sarey Martin Concepcion, and Josh Patterson. Enjoy! THEOLOGY BEER CAMP 2025: Like what you he…
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This week on the (Re)thinking Faith Podcast, host Josh Patterson welcomes back Dr. Philip Clayton to discuss his new book, "Science and the Sacred", which emerges from a dialogue between theist and non-theist perspectives. They explore the origins of the book, the importance of bridging the atheism-theism divide, and the role of pluralism in foster…
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In this episode, Dr. Oord discusses an essay from Josh Patterson entitled, Amipotence (Perhaps) in which he engages with the work of John Caputo. This essay is one of many compiled in volume 2 of a 2 volume work interacting further with the ideas of amipotence in Dr. Oord's book, The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence. Josh will also be a…
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This week, Dana Hicks joins the podcast to talk about his most recent book, "The Quest for Thin Places: How to Find Spirituality After Deconstruction". In this conversation we walk through a cyclical understanding of deconstruction. Dana shares helpful stories along the way and we have a great time. Enjoy! RESOURCES: The Quest for Thin Places: How …
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What drives some people to embrace high handed leaders and Christian Nationalism while other people don't? This is the question explored in this episode where Dr. Oord shares an excerpt from the book he co-authored with Tripp Fuller entitled God After Deconstruction. In a chapter on Christian Nationalism Oord and Fuller engage with the work of Dr. …
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In this episode of the (Re)thinking Faith podcast, host Josh Patterson engages with Dr. Benjamin Chicka, a senior lecturer in philosophy and religion. They discuss the current challenges in academia, the relationship between theology and philosophy, and the implications of classical substance theism. Dr. Chicka introduces his work on pragmatic cons…
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In this episode, Dr. Oord engages with the book entitled The Old Testament and Process Theology by Robert Gnuse. Gnuse writes in his book commenting on the relationality of God with creation in the Old Testament, "To speak of God as active in human history implies that God can enter into a process of interrelationship involving contingency and chan…
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In this episode, Dr. Oord discusses an essay from Doral Hayes entitled, Uncontrolled Worship. This essay is one of many compiled in volume 2 of a 2 volume work interacting further with the ideas of amipotence in Dr. Oord's book, The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence. Doral Hayes will be one of the speakers at the upcoming Uncontrolling L…
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