Brothers Nick and Stephen Wiley invite you to The Working Man's Weightlifting Show, a relatable podcast for ordinary people who are committed to realistically incorporating health and fitness into their already busy lives. In an industry crowded by flashy aesthetics, photo-shopped abs, full-time camera crews, and misleading marketing, Nick and Stephen leverage their combined 30+ years of weightlifting experience to help clear the air on everyday fitness issues. Common discussion topics inclu ...
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Jon Evans of WECT/Fox Wilmington is in his 43rd year of television news. He's asked a lot of questions, and you've seen or heard the answers on his newscasts. Jon is now asking different questions, going in-depth with interviews and learning things that only a few people know. Politicians, business leaders, entrepreneurs, athletes, entertainers - you'll know them better after hearing them go "1 on 1 with Jon Evans."
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Have you ever looked around at your tech company and realized you’re one of the oldest people in the room…and you may not even be 40 yet? It gets late early is a podcast and community focused on the experience of aging as a tech employee. We’ll uncover the root of Silicon Valley’s obsession with youth, and parse fact from fiction. We’ll explore individual experiences across tech companies of various sizes, learn from experts, and share practical advice on how tech workers can build long and ...
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Promoting acceptance of Autistic people, reporting community events and news, discussing diverse issues, and featuring Authors and entertainment.
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Crimes of the Cape Fear: Digging Deeper into Five Unsolved Murders
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24:28The families of five murder victims have waited years, even decades, for justice. They lost mothers, fathers, sons and daughters to violent crimes in the Wilmington area, and the killers have never paid the price. In this special podcast episode, you’ll hear detectives talk about the investigations into these unsolved murders, while loved ones shar…
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Kelly Stonelake Tried to Protect Kids at Meta. They Fired Her Instead
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1:13:58Have you ever felt trapped in a system that’s supposed to empower you but instead chips away at your well-being? In today’s episode, I’m sitting down with Kelly Stonelake, a former Meta executive who’s blowing the whistle on what’s happening behind the scenes at one of the world’s most powerful tech giants. From battling toxic corporate culture to …
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How to Fix Your Dumpster Fire Interview Process With Lorna Erickson and Victoria Gates
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49:11Let’s get real: hiring today is a mess. I’ve been there both as a candidate and as the interviewer who wasn’t properly trained. So, when I discovered Lorna Erickson and Victoria Gates, two women who are revolutionizing the corporate interviewing landscape, I knew we had to have them on the show. In this episode, we dive into the shocking state of i…
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Are We All Screwed? A Millennial and Gen Xer Weigh In With Bradley Richardson of Advanced Adulting
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1:51:41I’m not gonna lie–this episode hit deep. Bradley Richardson and I recorded this one for both our audiences, and it turned into the realest talk I’ve had in a while. We peeled back the polish and got straight into the messy middle of work, life, and what we all do to survive this stage of midlife. If you've ever been laid off, cut off by your work “…
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Did You Know You Could Have a 'Second Fifty' Years? Dr. Debra Whitman Explains!
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43:57What has more to do with longevity: your zip code or your genetic code? The answer might just surprise you. In this episode, I’m thrilled to have Dr. Debra Whitman, Chief Public Policy Officer at AARP and author of “The Second Fifty: Answers to the 7 Big Questions of Midlife and Beyond” join me to discuss the changing narrative of aging. Deb’s jour…
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Turn Career Setbacks Into Comebacks: Gamifying Job Searches and Nailing Your Career After Age 40 With Portfolio Rocket’s Loren Greiff
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48:16What happens when the most brutal battle of your life changes how you approach everything? Cancer sucks. It rips apart someone’s life. So, can you believe someone “gamified cancer” to make sure she still got the most out of life during her fight? Yup, that would be my friend, Loren. In this episode, I’m joined by executive career strategist Loren G…
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Larry the Cable Guy: Ready to Git-R-Done in Wilmington
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38:35Larry the Cable Guy grew out of Dan Whitney's stand-up comedy routines. The character known for his Southern drawl and rapid-fire one-liners has become an American success story, selling millions of tickets, CDs and DVDs, winning several awards, and starring in the Blue Collar Comedy Tour shows. But the native of Nebraska says his biggest break cam…
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Colorado’s Game-Changing Job Application Act, the Case for Intergenerational Teams, and How You Can Take Action With Janine Vanderburg
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48:26We’re done just talking about ageism. In this episode, we show you how to do something about it. Janine Vanderburg is the powerhouse behind Changing the Narrative and CEO of Encore Roadmap. She joins me to talk about how she and a coalition of advocates helped pass the groundbreaking Job Application Fairness Act in Colorado - legislation that bans …
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Bethany Joy Lenz: One Tree Hill alum and bestselling author becomes a Queen
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43:15Bethany Joy Lenz’s acting career took off in 2003, when she got the role of Haley James Scott on the hit show One Tree Hill. Fans of the Wilmington-based show didn’t know that while Lenz enjoyed success on-screen, her personal life was being manipulated by leaders of a religious cult. Lenz’s bestselling 2024 memoir, Dinner for Vampires, details how…
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Send us a text In episode 80, hosts Nick and Stephen compare kettlebells to everything else. Topics include: • Picking the right tool for the job: kettlebells, dumbbells, barbells • Kettlebells allow for extended workouts without setting the weight down • The "secret sauce" movements of kettlebells • Competition-style vs. hard-style kettlebells • A…
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Job Search Struggles in Midlife, Why You Should Take Fractional Roles, and Corporate Survival with Nick Passarelli
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39:47If you’ve ever been blindsided by a layoff, wrestled with feeling “too old” for the job search, or wondered if your career peak is behind you, this episode is for you. In this deeply honest and refreshingly human episode, I speak with Nick Passarelli, a fintech exec and former HR leader whose early career taught him the hard truth: corporate loyalt…
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Mike Krzyzewski: The Discoveries He’s Made in Retirement
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19:53Mike Krzyzewski would be at or near the top of any short list ranking history’s best college basketball coaches. He won more games than any other coach in his 46-year career, leading Duke University to five men’s national championships. He also won Olympic Gold Medals coaching Team USA, and prepared countless young men for their post-college career…
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Why Awkwardness Is a Career Superpower, Overcoming Social Discomfort, and Building Confidence With Henna Pryor
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42:52We’ve all had those painfully awkward moments–those cringey, uncomfortable feelings—the ones that make you want to disappear into the floor. But what if awkwardness wasn’t something to escape, but something to embrace? Today, I sit down with workplace performance expert Henna Pryor to unpack why discomfort is actually a good thing. Henna shares her…
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The Righteous Brothers: Keeping the Hit Songs Alive in ‘25
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40:18Bill Medley and Bobby Hatfield formed the Righteous Brothers in 1962, after leaving the singing group they were in called The Paramours. The soulful duo topped the music charts with You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin' and (You’re My) Soul and Inspiration, and hit the top-ten with others including Unchained Melody and Rock and Roll Heaven. After Hatfiel…
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Fighting Ageism Through Art, The Gendered Impact of Aging, and Why This Exhibit Went Viral With Dr. Stacey Gordon and Aubrey Hirsch
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31:55Did you know that the average age for a first Botox injection is reportedly now just 26? Wild, right? That’s just one sign of how deeply ageism is woven into our lives - whether it’s in the workplace, healthcare, or even just the way we see ourselves. So, today I am chatting with Dr. Stacey Gordon, a senior fellow at NYU’s Center for Health and Agi…
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Send us a text In episode 80, hosts Nick & Stephen tackle the challenges of balancing weightlifting with the demands of manual labor. Topics include: • Strategies for scheduling workouts around labor intensity • Tips for achieving recovery and avoiding burnout • Encouragement to listen to your body and adjust as needed Our links: Instagram: @workin…
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Send us a text In episode 79, hosts Nick and Stephen visit the age-old question of barbell vs. dumbbell training. Topics include: • Benefits of barbells for strength and incremental loading • Advantages of dumbbells for muscle symmetry and isolation training • Using training logs for progress tracking • Recommendations on adjusting rep schemes for …
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Breaking Age Stereotypes, Embracing AI, and Building a Multi-Generational Workforce with AARP’s Naj Uddin
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57:27How does a Silicon Valley techie end up transforming one of the largest nonprofits in the U.S.? Well, Naj Uddin, Chief Information Officer at AARP, joins us to share his journey from tech startups to spearheading innovation at AARP. Naj shares how AARP is doing things differently - think success coaching, mentorship programs, and hiring practices t…
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Send us a text In episode 78, hosts the Working Men discuss the interplay between training frequency and volume, highlighting how each affects strength gains and recovery. Topics include: • Importance of frequency in workout routines • Effects of job routines on physical fitness • Correlation between training volume and muscle recovery • Insights i…
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Ashley Bissette Sumerel: Talking TV with Wilmington’s Rotten Tomatoes-approved critic
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40:23As Editor-in-Chief of her Tell-Tale TV website, Ashley Bissette Sumerel has reviewed some of the top shows on television and interviewed some of its’ biggest stars. Sumerel is a Rotten Tomatoes-approved critic and a member of the Critics Choice Association, where her vote counts in deciding the year’s best performances. Her “Talking TV” career all …
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Regret Is Your Greatest Teacher: How to Learn From the Past and Build a Future You Love With Daniel Pink
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31:17Ever looked back on a missed opportunity and thought, Ugh, what if? Well, you’re not alone—and that feeling of regret might actually be one of the best tools for growth. I had the privilege of chatting with New York Times bestselling author Daniel Pink about his book The Power of Regret—the book that gave me the final push to launch this very podca…
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Send us a text In Episode 77, the Working Men share tips on how to steer a workout session that's cut short on time. Topics include: • Discussion on the significance of training efficiently • Strategies for short, impactful workouts • Emphasizing the main lift • Tips for grouping exercises to save time • Strategies for adjusting workouts when runni…
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Building a Working Dad's Program in Realtime
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36:43Send us a text In episode 76, Stephen takes Nick to school and builds a program in realtime. Topics include: Strategies for building effective dad-friendly workout routines Importance of muscle memory after breaks from lifting Upper body exercises Testing one-rep maxes Finding fatherly motivation to get back in-shape Our links: Instagram: @workingm…
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Kathleen Baker: The Battles She Faced Before and After Winning Olympic Gold
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48:02Kathleen Baker overcame being diagnosed with Crohn’s Disease to become one of the best swimmers in the world, winning gold and silver medals in Rio de Janeiro with the 2016 U.S. Olympic Team. Baker set her sights on returning to the games in 2020, but she never got that second chance at Olympic gold. Now the North Carolina native is supporting a pr…
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Send us a text In Episode 75, hosts Nick and Stephen jump on the Holiday Buyer’s Guide bandwagon. Unsponsored links below: Titan Dip Stand Station https://titan.fitness/products/equalizer-dip-bars Titan 40lb Adjustable Kettlebell https://titan.fitness/products/40-lb-adjustable-kettlebell Titan Red Outdoor Power Tower https://titan.fitness/products/…
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In this last episode of the year, I reflect on what I’ve learned in 1.5 years of podcasting about ageism in the workplace. Spoiler alert: it’s a big deal for all of us, whether you’re fresh out of school or deep into your career, so let’s roll! Did you know having a positive mindset about aging can add 7.5 years to your life? That’s more than quitt…
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Thriving as an Individual Contributor, Embracing Power Skills, and the Myth of Workplace Vulnerability with Everybody Be Cool’s Author, Hanan Harb Sahourieh
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56:36Ever feel like you're trying to navigate a corporate obstacle course while juggling flaming torches and keeping your cool? Like you're supposed to be "authentic" but also "professional," vulnerable but not too vulnerable? Well, today we're diving into the workplace circus with Hanan Harb Sahourieh, the brilliant mind behind Everybody Be Cool - a bo…
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Fired for Being 42, the Insane Age Discrimination Case No Lawyer Would Take, and Picking Up the Pieces with Over 40 Founder Emilia D'Anzica
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37:59Imagine hitting all your KPIs at work, only to be told you're out—because they want someone younger. Well, that’s exactly what happened to today’s guest, the incredible Emilia D’Anzica. And trust me, her comeback story is one for the books! Emilia is the founder of Growth Molecules, an author, and an all-around powerhouse. She takes us through her …
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Send us a text Bonus episode! Nick shares a quick update from half of the Dynamic Duo on taking a hiatus, having a 2nd child, and releasing new music. Expect to hear about: Where have we been for the last few months? The Wiley Bros.' new band - Token Sacrifice - releases a new single "In Memoriam" on November 15, 2024 Pre-save the new track at musi…
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Ben Folds: Acclaimed singer/songwriter helps Western NC Hurricane relief
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29:55Ben Folds, the acclaimed singer/songwriter and founder of the 90’s indie rock band Ben Folds Five, is returning to his home state of North Carolina to headline From Wilmington With Love, a benefit concert supporting Hurricane Helene relief. But there’s more on the platinum-record selling performer’s plate. Folds is preparing to record a live perfor…
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How Menopause Affects Productivity at Work, Corporate America’s Neglect of Women's Health, and the Billion-Dollar Cost to Businesses with Tamsen Fadal
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38:20Did you know that menopause affects over half the population and costs companies billions in lost productivity each year? And yet, it's still one of the most overlooked issues in the workplace. Well, today’s episode focuses on the impact of menopause on the workforce. I share my experience with a tech company's absurd mishandling of women’s health,…
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Why Some Women Try To Look Older At Work, Gender Bias in Big Tech, and Building an AgeTech Company in a Youth-Obsessed World with Wisdom.io CEO Cathy Minter
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52:13The world population is aging, and with 10,000 people turning 65 daily, new opportunities are emerging in the tech industry. So, today, we're exploring the AgeTech revolution with Cathy Minter, the CEO and co-founder of Wisdom.io. AgeTech? Yeah, it's a thing, and it's been quietly changing the game since 2016. But we're not talking about teaching y…
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Mike Oblinger: UNCW’s Athletic Director and the Future of the Front Porch
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40:49Mike Oblinger took over as Athletic Director at UNCW in April of 2023, coming to Wilmington from the University of Connecticut where he worked alongside coaches and administrators who won several national championships. Oblinger brings years of experience in fundraising and administration, looking to take Seahawk athletics to the next level, while …
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Indeed’s Ageist Career Guide, Viral LinkedIn Reaction, and the Impact on the Ageism Debate
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44:05In this solo episode, I break down the recent controversy surrounding a career guide published by Indeed, the world’s largest job site, with 365 million daily users and over 3.5 million employers. Here’s a teaser: The guide labeled ages 45-55 as “late career” and 55-65 as “decline,” sparking an outcry over its ageist language. I stumbled across the…
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Major Frank Zastoupil: Once a Blue Angel, always a Blue Angel
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40:52They fly at 400 miles per hour in fighter jets that are inches apart. The Blue Angels Flight Demonstration Squadron has entertained crowds for decades with precision mid-air maneuvers, and U.S. Marine Corps pilot Major Frank Zastoupil had one of the best seats in the house. Major Zastoupil, who is now stationed in North Carolina, is featured in new…
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Surviving Corporate via Humor, Navigating Layoffs, and Age-Shaming at Work With HR Besties’ Jamie Jackson
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42:04Today I've got Jamie Jackson, the brilliant mind behind 'Humorous Resources', 'Millennial Misery,' and 'Horrendous HR,' and the co-host of the HR Besties podcast. She's not just your average HR pro - she's like the standup comedian of the corporate world, using humor to keep us all from losing our minds in the 9-to-5 grind. Jamie's hilarious social…
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How You're Getting Discriminated Against at Work, Part 2, with EEOC Commissioner Keith Sonderling
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47:53In the last year alone, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) received nearly 81,000 charges of workplace discrimination. And here's a kicker – age discrimination made up a whopping 17.5% of those cases! This is not merely a fringe issue in our society. In today’s episode, I sit down with Keith Sonderling, the EEOC commissioner, to exp…
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How You’re Getting Discriminated Against at Work, Part 1, with Attorneys Peter Romer Friedman and Elizabeth Aniskevich
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55:36My guests today are Elizabeth Aniskevich from the AARP Foundation and lawyer Peter Romer-Friedman, two powerhouses in the fight against age discrimination. They're here to shed light on this pervasive issue that's been hiding in plain sight (or, should we say, in plain algorithms?). Remember when job listings could brazenly ask for "recent college …
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How to Reinvent Your Career After 40 With Career Coach John Tarnoff
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50:53Are you feeling stuck in your career and afraid to make a bold move? John Tarnoff, the career reinvention coach and founder of the Mid-Career Lab, will shake up everything you believe about mid-career shifts, especially if you're rocking that over-40 life! Get ready to flip the script on job loss and retirement. John shows us that getting fired is …
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Ageism in Tech, Career Evolution, and Creating Comedy Content With Corporate Bro
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44:07We're bringing back some comic relief of the highest order by republishing one of the all-time most downloaded episodes of It Gets Late Early, featuring genius comedian Ross Pomerantz, aka Corporate Bro (or just Corp). If you’re newer here, you probably haven’t heard Ross’s take on getting older in general or in the ageist tech industry…and trust m…
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The Wall Street Skinny X IGLE: Ageism, Sexism, and Conquering the Challenges Women Face in Tech and Finance
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1:08:01The fantastic Jen Saarbach and Kristen Kelly from “The Wall Street Skinny” podcast join me today for a candid and super fun crossover episode on the challenges women face breaking into and growing their careers in the male-dominated industries of Tech and Finance. Jen and Kristen tell us how they started “The Wall Street Skinny” to democratize acce…
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Building a $25M Tech Company Without VC, Gender Barriers, Social Media Fame, and Writing “Scaling With Soul” With Sharon Gillenwater
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1:04:04Ever wonder what it takes to build and sell a tech company for millions without venture capital? Well, we've got the inside story straight from the source! Today I'm chatting with Sharon Gillenwater, a trailblazing entrepreneur who did just that - she built and sold her tech company (Boardroom Insiders) for a cool $25 million, all without relying o…
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The Unexpected Impact of Remote Work on Young Employees, Toxic Stereotypes, and Gen Z's Little-known Need for Mentorship with Megan Gerhardt
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1:03:44In a recent study by Fortune, one in five Gen Z’s reported not having spoken to anyone over 50 in the workplace in the last year, while 40% of people over 55 said they hadn't talked to a Gen Z. How did we get here? How do we bridge this generational divide? Are the five generations at work a challenge to overcome, or are they an overlooked source o…
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Erika Arlee & Kristi Ray: Award-winning filmmakers who put females out front
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59:20Erika Arlee and Kristi Ray are kindred spirits. A casting call on Craigslist brought them together a decade ago, sparking a friendship that helped launch their production company, Honey Head Films. Their mission is to tell strong stories from the often-overlooked female perspective. The duo’s debut feature film, the multi award-winning A Song for I…
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The Trouble With Capitalism, Ditching Our Hustle Culture Mindset, and Becoming More Human-Centric in the Age of AI With Anti-career Coach Danielle Roberts
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50:16In our hustle-obsessed society, the concept of "work-life balance" has become a twisted, unattainable ideal. From the dawn of our careers, we're fed narratives that glorify overachievement and self-sacrifice for the corporate grind. But what if we've been sold a lie? What if the real keys to fulfillment lie in dismantling those deeply ingrained not…
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Male Loneliness and the Struggle to Make and Maintain Friendships as Men Age With ‘Billy No-Mates’ Author, Max Dickins
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52:56In our fast-paced, career-driven world, it's all too easy for friendships to take a backseat. But for many men, that dwindling social circle isn't just an occasional inconvenience - it's a harsh reality made worse by societal pressures and masculine stereotypes. My guest today is Max Dickins, speaker, comedian, and author of Billy No-Mates: How I R…
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Working With Jeff Bezos, Navigating Sexism at Amazon, Growing Confidence, and Getting Sober at 43 With Exit Interview’s Kristi Coulter
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1:23:15Ever wondered what it's like to work at Amazon? I mean, if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere, just like New York, right? It feels like after you’ve done time at Amazon, your meal ticket is punched, and you’ll have a cascade of job offers and great opportunities thereafter. But would you give your soul in exchange for a career at Amazo…
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Jessica Holmes: NC’s State Auditor has gone from Pender County to public service
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52:01When Jessica Holmes took the oath of office to become North Carolina’s State Auditor in December 2023, she added another “first” to her growing list of accomplishments. It’s even more impressive when you learn Jessica Holmes experienced homelessness as a child while growing up in Pender County. But thanks to adults who took the time to care, severa…
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How to Be a Better Manager With Ashley Herd of Manager Method and HR Besties
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44:20Becoming a manager through a promotion or receiving a job offer is a rewarding accomplishment for an employee. While these opportunities can prove exciting for both first-time and long-time managers, not everyone is innately gifted with the skills it takes to be a good manager. Ask just about anyone, and they’ll tell you about that bad boss (or 7) …
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Kayla Thompson: Grinding to take her golf game to the LPGA Tour
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48:15Kayla Thompson had success as a member of the West Bladen High School and UNCW women’s golf teams. Since turning professional in 2019, Kayla has chased the dream of earning her card and playing on the Ladies Professional Golf Association Tour. After several years of ups and downs, Kayla has now earned the chance to take her game to the next level, …
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