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The Shamans Cave

Sandra Ingerman & Renee Baribeau

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Shamans Sandra Ingerman and Renee Baribeau have found that they enjoy speaking to each other and sharing inspiration and healing stories to keep us focused on our spiritual practice during this turbulent time on the planet.The Shamans Cave is a dedicated circle of shamanic practitioners who desire to contribute their unique gifts in behalf of all of life! This is a time to share strong ceremonial work and shamanic practices in our local communities. Shamanism is a practice that was tribal. A ...
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You already know that midlife isn’t the beginning of the end - it’s the start of something powerful. Crone Rising is hosted by Lee Currie, a storyteller, writer, and neopagan witch, bringing you weekly deep dives into the wisdom, magic, and unapologetic truth of life beyond the maiden and mother years, through conversations with guest Crones. Each 15-minute(ish) episode will start with the same question: “How do you maintain your relevance in a society that wants you to be invisible?” with t ...
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THE WONDER is currently on hiatus. We hope to return soon. THE WONDER explores perspectives, rituals, and observances of modern, naturalistic, Earth-revering Neopagan religious paths. Naturalistic Pagans embrace the world as understood by science (that is, without gods, magic, or the supernatural), and enhance our lives with myth, ritual and activism. Hosted by Mark Green (author of ATHEOPAGANISM: An Earth-Honoring Path Rooted in Science) and Yucca (formerly of The Pagan Perspective YouTube ...
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Religion is the driving force behind much of what happens in the world today -- particularly when it comes to the "big three" religions -- Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Religious differences have and continue to spark wars, create nations, and spawn ongoing conflict down through the centuries. No matter what religion you adhere to (or even if you claim that you don't adhere to any religion at all), you need to have a basic understanding of the world's religions in order to understand wha ...
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In this episode of Crone Rising, Tracy Trafford shares her thoughtful journey of embracing relevance from within. From honouring laugh lines and quirky hair choices to celebrating small milestones with her partner, Tracy reflects on living a life of intention, nurturing mental health, and building a legacy of love and curiosity. Together, Lee and T…
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In this deeply resonant conversation, Nancy Drope reflects on resilience, independence, and breaking generational patterns of silence and struggle. She shares how her yoga practice, astrology, and oracle cards ground her in optimism while guiding her journey as a grandmother of six. Together with Lee, Nancy explores themes of fierce self-compassion…
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Renee and Sandra start by talking about something many spiritual practitioners face — burnout. From there, they share simple and heartfelt ways to call yourself back home and create more harmony and peace in every part of your life. Humor was immersed into the energy of the show. We all need to laugh a bit right now. And we all need ways to learn h…
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In this solo reflection, Lee Currie threads together wisdom from recent Crone Rising conversations with Nancy Irons-Murray, Danielle Rousseau, and Wendy Jackman. She explores themes of reinvention, validation, peace, and truth-telling — and how these stories model a different way to age with curiosity, soft power, and honesty. Lee shares her own ta…
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In this conversation, Wendy Jackman joins Lee to explore what it means to stay visible in a culture that often demands silence and invisibility—especially for women. Wendy shares her journey through adoption, navigating a narcissistic parent, and learning to recognize the patterns of dissociation that shaped her life. Together, they unpack the gene…
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Renee and Sandra take on a very potent topic about healing. Many shamanic practitioners today are stuck in the illusion that it is the methods of healing that people turn to shamanism today. But in reality, methods have never healed anyone. Shamans have used “methods” as a way to demonstrate that she/he is performing a healing. But the true work th…
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In this intimate conversation, Danielle Rousseau shares her journey of moving from the high-stakes world of critical care nursing into the softer, slower rhythms of Cronehood. She speaks about the hunger for validation, the quiet wisdom found in friendship, and the courage it takes to reclaim visibility after years of invisibility. From her “Gang o…
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In this rich and generous conversation, retired educator Nancy Irons-Murray shares how a life rooted in curiosity and compassion keeps her relevant, active, and deeply connected to the world around her. From her early years breaking barriers in the Canadian military to her decades in the classroom and her ongoing work leading battlefield tours for …
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During this powerful show Renee and Sandra explore how our imagination shapes our reality, reminding us that our inner self-talk influences how we perceive the world. And if perception creates reality, then we hold tremendous power to transform our inner consciousness—bringing healing on all levels. Join us as Sandra Ingerman and Renee Baribeau ins…
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In this deeply reflective solo episode, Lee Currie weaves insights from three powerful Crone Rising conversations—with Sharyn Flood, Gabrielle St. George, and Cathy Zielske—into a tapestry of truth, resonance, and reclamation. More than a recap, this is a spiral of reverence: for joy reclaimed, rage awakened, and peace hard-earned. Lee explores the…
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In this refreshingly honest conversation, Cathy Zielske brings her signature candour to the Crone Rising table. From garden-variety neuroticism to hard-earned peace, Cathy shares how years of therapy—not time alone—gave her the emotional intelligence that now shapes her relationships, her work, and her sense of self. Together with Lee, they unpack …
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So many people are feeling mentally exhausted by all the changes we are experiencing as nothing seems as it used to. It feels like we are living in a new time and we are trying to find our grounding and center amidst all that is happening. Join Renee Baribeau The Practical Shaman and Sandra Ingerman as they talk about the issue so many of are facin…
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What does it look like to age out loud, to speak truth without apology, and to refuse invisibility as a woman in midlife? In this electric episode of Crone Rising, author and screenwriter Gabrielle St. George brings fire, ferocity, and deep moral clarity to the mic. With her signature wit and fierce honesty, Gabrielle shares why she has no f*cks le…
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In this deeply honest episode, Sharyn Flood reflects on what it means to reclaim relevance and visibility later in life. With humility and a touch of feistiness, she shares stories of parenting, career in engineering, dating after 50, and travelling to over 50 countries. From choosing joy and freedom over expectation, to upgrading her phone for pho…
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We are currently surrounded by intense and chaotic energies. Through the practice of shamanism, we have the power to transmute these disruptive forces into life-giving energy that nourishes and supports us. Join Renee Baribeau The Practical Shaman and Sandra Ingerman as they explore the energetic chaos many are experiencing today. They share how sh…
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In this solo reflection, Lee Currie weaves together the insights and energy of three delightfully distinct Crone Rising guests: Claire Barron-Sluga, Pat Sanagan, and Judy Azzopardi. Each woman offers a unique perspective on relevance, aging, and showing up on her own terms. From fierce kindness to full-bodied boundaries, this episode invites listen…
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In this candid and richly layered conversation, Judy Azzopardi reflects on what it means to remain relevant after a lifetime of corporate hustle, family roles, and personal reinvention. At 70, Judy is still working in real estate, still growing, and still defying the cultural expectations that women should fade quietly into the background. We talk …
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There is a lot of talk going on about multi dimensions, multiverses, and beings from other planets. This discussion has been going for so many years now. But isn’t it true that when you engage in your shamanic practices and ceremonies that you have already stepped into a different dimension but might not know it. For you are not in the same conscio…
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In this rich and resonant episode, Lee Currie sits down with Pat Sanagan — nurse, mother, grandmother, and lifelong advocate — for a candid conversation about the evolving nature of visibility, introversion, parenting, and power as we age. From navigating family dynamics to letting go of the need to please, Pat shares what it means to lead with com…
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In this warm, wise, and deeply affirming episode, Lee sits down with facilitator and community-builder Claire Barron-Sluga for a conversation about connection, aging, and the value of being seen. From the fatigue of Zoom life to the gentle rebellion of choosing presence over productivity, Claire offers a clear and courageous call to remember our wo…
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A few years ago, Sandra read an interesting post on Facebook about how Buffalo walk into a storm to get through it versus trying to find away around the storm. This was a powerful lesson she learned as she tried it while walking through a blizzard and arrived home feeling empowered and revitalized. She tired the same thing walking through pain inst…
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This week’s Crone Rising episode is a solo reflection — a conversation between you and me, rooted in what I learned from three powerful women: Robin Blackburn, Catherine Taylor, and Mary Elizabeth Babcock. Each of them gave me something I didn’t expect: A permission slip. To dance in the chaos. To stop waging war on my body. To choose truth over pl…
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Mary Elizabeth Babcock brings warmth, intelligence, and spiritual depth to this conversation about what it really means to age well. With stories about work, wellness, stewardship, spirituality, creativity, and reinvention, she invites us to reflect on our relationship to visibility, value, and vitality. From learning to set boundaries to embracing…
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Sandra was reading one of the posts on the Shamans Cave Facebook Page about the Bushmen who dance and sing for hours and the power and healing that comes from doing this. We have talked about the power of dancing, walking, and singing on a variety of past episodes. But as we have gotten into a habit of sitting more through driving, being on our dev…
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Catherine Taylor is a radiant example of intentional living and unapologetic self-expression. In this intimate conversation, we explore her evolving relationship with beauty, vitality, and sovereignty as a woman unapologetically in her power. With wit, warmth, and the wisdom of one who has lived fully, Catherine invites us to stop performing and st…
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In this radiant opening guest episode of Crone Rising, host Lee Currie welcomes Robin Blackburn - an unapologetic 55 year old debut novelist and content marketer who's joyful energy and fierce authenticity light up the mic. Robin shares her decision to write her first book at 53, driven by her desire to see older women represented on the page. Toge…
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In this week’s podcast Renee and Sandra talk about how on a spiritual level we can keep doing our work to expand and evolve. But if we are in a state of fear and contracting then we are suppressing all the spiritual energy we learned how to raise and this puts an amazing amount of stress on our bodies and nervous system when we are trying to expand…
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In this debut episode of Crone Rising, your host, Lee Currie, shares the heart and soul behind this podcast - why it was created, who it's for, and what you can expect. This is a love letter to all the women who are done shrinking, silencing, and sidelining themselves. It's for the seekers, the storytellers, and the sovereigns-in-the-making. Join m…
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In chaotic and challenging times trust is our most powerful tool and the one we often have the hardest time embracing. When things are not going well we want to blame, we want to withdraw, we feel victim to the forces of life. But this is part of starting any initiation. There needs to be a breakdown of trust and all we can count on as we enter a t…
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In nature we have trees that who feed so many beings – humans, birds, insects, all that lives on the earth and air. And from a shamanic point of view these trees feel honored when we eat and feel nurtured from their fruits. But of course, then comes a cycle of regeneration of the silent process of going within to regenerate and become nourished aga…
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Death is a cycle of nature. We die with every change that happens to us in life. Due to so many illnesses circulating our over populated planet we are seeing death effect us all on a personal level. Loved ones and friends are dying at what feels untimely. No one is completely protected from the effects of toxins and the viruses and bacteria causing…
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In a lot of spiritual traditions gossip is a way to make people feel that they are superior to others who have made a misstep or who are not behaving in an ethical manner. It is true it is up to our communities to let people know when there are unethical teachers who are hurting others instead of truly teaching ethically from a place where they hav…
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