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Discussing Schismatrix by Bruce Sterling (Part 1)
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1:02:26This is without a doubt the strangest book I have ever read. I love it. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ni…
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Discussing Yumi and The Nightmare Painter by Brandon Sanderson
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1:59:48Are you ready for the Sanderlanche? Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ninja/…
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Continuing to Discuss Mess Effect by Shamus Young until the end of time
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1:46:17This week nobody asked for this. Ben didn't. Nate didn't. The fans didn't. But yet here we are because SOMEBODY didn't write a book that would take 2 parts despite being 400+ pages. Blame that guy. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.n…
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Talking About Tolkien - The Palantir (Towers, 3-11)
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1:02:21Pippin goes toe to toe with the will of Sauron. Gandalf wakes up to the screams. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsabou…
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Discussing Mess Effect by Shamus Young Part I
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1:43:42This week Nate tackles something very near and dear to his heart: Mass Effect. Also Shamus Young, a writer who had tragically passed away just a few short years ago. Ben is also here. Sometimes. He's around here. Occasionally he has some good observations that are born out of Nate failing to properly get his point across or describe Shamus Young's …
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Talking About Tolkien - The Voice of Saruman (Towers, 3-10)
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48:07Saruman rolls a charisma saving throw with extreme disadvantage. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ninja/…
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Discussing Mass Effect Revelation by Drew Karpyshyn
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1:29:01Ben finally tackles his Christmas present from Nate. Prepare to experience Mass Effect as you've never experienced it before! (Second hand from a guy who wasn't super interested in what he was reading) Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threa…
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Talking About Tolkien - Flotsam and Jetsam (Towers, 3-9)
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57:13You really do not want to anger an Ent. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ninja/…
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Discussing The Hound or Hounds of Baskerville or the Baskersvilles by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
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1:04:21This week we discuss a book that Nate struggles to get right and struggles to remember the fine detail of. Ben does a lot of heavy lifting. A dog not named Scooby Doo uses Scooby-Doo-like tactics to murder some men. Will Sherlock save the day? Yes. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://di…
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The President is Missing by James Patterson & Bill Clinton (A Trailer)
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3:48Saturday 8/16/25 the full episode drops on Patreon for $3 tier members and above! Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsabo…
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Discussing World War II (and also The Man in the High Castle by Phillip K DICK)
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1:36:06This week Nate did research into WW2 and because of that, you have to also hear about it. Suck it Ben. Nate read: Stalin: Waiting for Hitler by Stephen Kotkin Then Nate watched a bunch of videos: Battlefield (an oldie but a goodie. Just all of them but specifically the Battle for Russia, the Battle for France, Midway, Stalingrad, and Kursk) Soviet …
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Talking About Tolkien - The Road to Isengard (Towers 3-8)
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1:07:07Theoden realizes all the legends are true... Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ninja/…
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Nate Discusses The Man In The High Castle by Philip K Dick
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1:34:41It's finally here. Nate reluctantly is forced to read a book he knew he wouldn't like going in. Uno Reverse! Nate is going to make his pain at reading this book into Ben's pain at listening to him discuss it. Prepare for Xanax Ben and Overstimulated Nate. The ultimate WAB Duo. Will anybody survive? Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profi…
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Discussing A Court of Mist and Fury by Sarah J Maas (Part 3)
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1:02:35Wait really? Still? We're still talking about this? Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ninja/…
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Talking About Tolkien - Helm's Deep (Towers, 3-7)
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1:10:13The battle for Helm's Deep. Two armies enter. One army leaves. Frequent references to: https://acoup.blog/2020/05/01/collections-the-battle-of-helms-deep-part-i-bargaining-for-goods-at-helms-gate/ Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.ne…
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Discussing A Court of Mist and Fury by Sarah J Maas (Part 2)
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1:32:42Content Warning: Explicit Sexual Content. The one in which Feyre and Rhys make it to second base. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https…
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Talking About Tolkien - The King of the Golden Hall (Towers, 3-6)
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1:22:54The Beowulf comparison begins... Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ninja/…
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Discussing A Court of Mist and Fury by Sarah J Maas (Part 1)
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1:41:28This one went off the rails immediately. Nate is obsessed with Rhys's length and Ben keeps thinking about different ways to use ash wood to kill the fey. It takes us about 30 minutes to get to the point where they actually talk about the story. I'll be honest, I wouldn't recommend this episode. Tune in next week when they maybe have their stuff tog…
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Talking About Tolkien - The White Rider (Towers, 3-5)
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1:04:14And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there I'll tell you how I overthrew the Balrog and became Gandalf the White... Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsabo…
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Discussing Oblivion: The Infernal City by Greg Keyes
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1:09:21This week we tackle a current topic... well from like 2 months ago when we put it up on the patreon to be voted on. I don't think anyone is talking about the Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remake anymore so we're a little late to the party. That's just the kind of people WAB are. We show up at 3am after all your guests have already gone home bringing t…
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Talking About Tolkien - Treebeard (Towers 3-4)
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1:37:07Takes a long time to say anything in old Entish. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ninja/…
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Nate Discusses Burn Notice: The Fix by Tod Goldberg
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1:24:23This week Nate talks about one of his favorite TV shows from the late Bush/early Obama years! Burn Notice! The book in question is the first Burn Notice book and it is essentially an episode of the show but with some added confusion where Nate maybe understood the major details but not so much the connective tissue. Support the show Blue Sky - http…
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Talking About Tolkien - The Uruk-hai (Towers 3-3)
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1:02:25Pippin finds himself in the custody of Nate's alma mater: The Fighting Uruk'hai. He speculates that he may be somewhat underprepared for the adventuring life. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - …
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Discussing The Worst Fictional Book We've Read (Divine Secrets of the YaYa Sisterhood Pt II)
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1:04:18The title says it all. What more can we say? We wrap up this terrible book about forgiving your abusers because, hey, they're people too. Will Vivi finally apologize? No. We already spoiled that. She never once apologizes and, in fact, believes she did nothing wrong. I'm sorry we have to keep discussing this dumpster fire. Support the show Blue Sky…
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Talking About Tolkien - Riders of Rohan (Towers 3-2)
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1:04:54Eomer was having a pretty normal day until a mythical king shows up and involves him in a mythical quest to save the world. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsabou…
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Discussing The Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood by Rebecca Wells
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1:06:45Today the boys discuss one of the worst things we've ever had the displeasure of reading. We didin't go in thinking we'd like it. We figured it would be something that just wasn't for us and we could understand (maybe) why others liked it even if it wasn't for us. What we got instead? Awful. Absoilutely positively awful. This is the story of an abu…
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Talking About Tolkien - The Departure of Boromir (Towers 3-1)
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38:58We bid a fond farewell to The Horn of Gondor. And also Boromir. "JRR Tolkien is the best perspective shift writer I've ever read." https://youtu.be/2sh9VvmzpMw Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram -…
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Discussing The Futurlogical Congress by Stanislaw Lem
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1:03:18This week the boys spin a wheel of books contributed by our Patreon and land on The Futurlogical Congress. How will we solve our overpopulation problem? Just never stop building. And drugs. Lots and lots of drugs. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https…
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Discussing The World of Ice & Fire by George R R Martin
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1:15:33This week the boys discuss information from A Song of Ice & Fire, repackaged into a wiki book and sold to you as merchandise... hold up. Have we done this before? I feel like we've done this before. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.…
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Discussing Star Wars - Thrawn Ascendency - Chaos Rising by Timothy - Zahn (Part 2)
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59:32Thrawn faces off with The Benevolent Yiv. The boys struggle to stay on topic. Star Wars Theme Kazoo Cover by Morpeef - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHGV1XVH92c Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagra…
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Discussing Star Wars - Thrawn Ascendency - Chaos Rising by Timothy - Zahn
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59:02It's Words About Books. It's Thrawn. You know what we're about. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ninja/…
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Discussing You Are Fatally Invited by Ande Pliego Part II
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1:06:31Did Nate finish this episode and then forget to upload it? Maybe. But once you forget this came out late, we'll say it didn't. We'll gaslight you that we never ever missed a due date and that maybe you're the one who remembered things wrong. Anyway we're jumping RIGHT BACK into this book. No intro. Just boom, you're in the book, getting talked at. …
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Talking About Tolkien - The Breaking of the Fellowship (Fellowship 2-10)
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28:31"Why not get rid of it? Why not be free of your doubt and fear? You can lay the blame on me, if you will. You can say that I was too strong and took it by force. For I am too strong for you, halfling." Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threa…
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Discussing BRAND NEW Book: You Are Fatally Invited by Ande Pliego
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1:08:07This book discussion comes to you thanks to our Patrons! This week Detective Nate and Detective Ben return. Well, not really. We kinda give away most of what's going on up front. We had a good time reading and discussing this one. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8…
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Talking About Tolkien - The Great River (Fellowship 2-9)
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45:48The gang goes on a very stressful boat trip. Nate and Ben ponder mysteries divine. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsab…
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Discussing What Would Skeletor Do by Robb Pearlman
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54:03Nate's wife gifted him a book. She got exactly what she wanted. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ninja/…
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Still Discussing Fire and Blood by George RR Martin (Part 3)
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1:32:40Alright...let's finish this...We finally cover The Dance of the Dragons. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.n…
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Talking About Tolkien - Farewell to Lorien (Fellowship 2-8)
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52:29The chapter in which Gimli demonstrates the proper way to ask a lady for some of her hair. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog…
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Discusssing Fire & Blood & Aenys & Maegor by GRRM Part II
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1:26:03This week we double down on Maegor's Aenys and also talk a little about Jahearys before ending the episode juuuuuust before the part that anyone who watched the HBO show would care about. See you next week when we discuss the Dance! For anyone interested in a much smarter person discussing similar historical issues, please check out https://acoup.b…
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Talking About Tolkien - The Mirror of Galadriel (Fellowship 2-7)
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1:01:29Hey! Wanna see some elf-magic? Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsaboutbooks.ninja/…
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Discussing Fire & Blood by George R R Martin (Part I)
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1:24:01Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun Dun Da-da-da-dunnnnnnnnn da-da-dunnnnnnnn. It's Fire and Blood! It's like A Song of Ice and Fire and Game of Thrones but worse! I hope you're ready for us to lay the groundwork and then we're gonna invade Westeros so that we can die and put our butt-named son on the throne after us. Is this what you want? Is this what you peo…
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Talking About Tolkien - Lothlorien (Fellowship 2-6)
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59:03You are going to sit there while I describe this tree and you are going to like it. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbookspodcast Blog - https://blog.wordsa…
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April Fools - Finally Discussing Harry Potter
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57:42A special bonus episode! This week we discuss Harry Potter in detail. We spend a lot of time analyzing the books in great detail, including concepts such as "what is a philosopher stone even?" We did avoid mention of the author, this is just pure Harry Potter discussion. You won't find coverage of Harry Potter like this anywhere else on the interne…
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A Book Discussion of Animorphs: The Invasion by K A Applegate - It should be obvious that this is a book discussion and not the book itself
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1:12:56This week the boys talk about the first book in the Animorphs series. They talk about it. Like a book club. They don't just read the book into the microphone. Anyone who listens to it for like 1 minute would get this. It's not actually that complicated or hard to comprehend or understand. If we were to read this book it would take longer than an ho…
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Talking About Tolkien - The Bridge of Khazad-dum (Fellowship 2-5)
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49:29"I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass." Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcas…
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Discussing Beware of Chicken by CasualFarmer...again
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1:22:23Words About Books is nearing the end of it's filler arc and for no reason in particular that inspired Ben to revisit Beware of Chicken. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.c…
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Talking About Tolkien - A Journey in the Dark (Fellowship 2-4)
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1:20:13This is a Gandalf appreciation chapter. We sure would be screwed without Gandalf. Fortunately, he will live forever. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbookspodcast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wordsaboutbooksp…
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Nate Meanders around For We Are Many (Bobiverse #2) by Dennis E Taylor Part II
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1:07:10This week we have to finish up 4 or 5 more storylines. But we ALSO have to take you on a journey of words and delight all of your senses. I uhh, don't know what else to say. Ben told me to tell you that this is for fans more than anything because it goes off on tangents pretty regularly. But I had fun doing it and that's what counts. Support the sh…
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Talking About Tolkien - The Ring Goes South (Fellowship 2-3)
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1:19:03In this chapter we climb a mountain. The mountain is evil. We go back down the mountain. Honestly, now that I think about it, that is kind of how all mountain climbing stories go. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profile/wordsaboutbooks.bsky.social Discord - https://discord.gg/6BaNRtcP8C Threads - https://www.threads.net/@wordsaboutbook…
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Nate Discusses For We Are Many (Bobiverse #2) by Dennis E Taylor
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1:46:46This week Ben says we're in the "filler arc." Well Ben, is talking for almost 2 hours about a book "filler" to you? Do you know how much effort I put into this? Do you know how many notes I took? How thorough of a job I did? This isn't filler, Ben. This was NEVER filler. How dare you. How DARE you. Support the show Blue Sky - https://bsky.app/profi…
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