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Welcome to Leaders, a podcast featuring long-form conversations with senior investors, CEOs, and entrepreneurs on topics that matter most to the investment community. In each episode, Joe Cass, Senior Director at S&P Global Ratings, explores market trends, investment outlooks, and personal stories from industry trailblazers. Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Music, and Deezer. This podcast series was formerly known as Fixed Income in 15.
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Economy Matters Podcast

Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta

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The Economy Matters podcast presents conversations with a variety of Atlanta Fed employees to discuss the work the Bank does and its relevance to people's daily lives. It also offers interviews with experts outside the Atlanta Fed, who discuss topics of interest to those who want to know more about economics and monetary policymaking.
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The American Monetary Association is a non-profit venture funded by The Jason Hartman Foundation that is dedicated to educating people about the practical effects of monetary policy and government actions on inflation, deflation and freedom. Our goal is to help people prosper in the midst of uncertain economic times. The American Monetary Association believes that a new and innovative understanding of wealth, value, business and investment is necessary to thrive in the new reality of big gov ...
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In this episode, Joseph is joined by Venkat, CEO at Barclays, and Saugata Saha, President at S&P Global Market Intelligence. Topics included Venkat's perspective on the future of the UK economy, his view on private markets, how Saugata see's AI being used in finance, Venkat's most important leadership lesson and both guests discuss their love of cr…
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Sign up for the Jason Hartman University Event this coming September https://www.jasonhartman.com/Phoenix . Also don't forget to register for our FREE Masterclass every second Wednesday of each month at https://jasonhartman.com/Wednesday Jason welcomes Christopher Leonard, a journalist and author, primarily focusing on his book, "The Lords of Easy …
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In this episode of the Leaders Podcast, host Joseph Cass welcomes back Richard Attias, the Chairman of the Executive Committee at the FII Institute. They dive deep into the upcoming FII9 event in Riyadh, exploring the theme of "Unlocking Keys to Prosperity." Richard shares his unique insights into the private conversations of world leaders and glob…
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Jason presents Travis King, CEO of Realm, a real estate investor collective, focusing on the "Big Beautiful Bill" and its positive implications for real estate investors. They discuss specific provisions like accelerated depreciation and the permanent grandfathering of Opportunity Zones, highlighting their role in attracting capital back into the m…
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In this enlightening episode of The Leaders Podcast, host Joe Cass engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Robyn Grew, CEO of Man Group, and Dave Ernsberger, co-President of S&P Global Commodity Insights. Subscribe (Apple Podcasts): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-with-joe-cass/id1515429355 Subscribe (Spotify): https://open.spo…
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Jason welcomes Mark Moss, an expert in monetary policy, cryptocurrency, and investments. They primarily center on the transformative impact of artificial intelligence (AI) and technology on the economy and society. Moss argues that while AI offers immense potential for increased efficiency and wealth creation, it also exacerbates the wealth gap due…
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In this enlightening episode of the Leaders podcast, host Joe Cass engages with industry stalwarts Malin Norberg, Chief Investment Officer at NBIM, and Dan Yergin, Vice Chairman at S&P Global. Together, they explore the evolving landscape of global energy, the implications of geopolitical shifts, and the critical role of innovation in driving susta…
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Jason and Les Rubin discuss the critical issues of entitlements, government size, and the tax code in relation to US economic stability. They explore the potential of converting Social Security to private accounts and the challenges of reforming the current entitlement programs, acknowledging the need for public education and a shift in attitude. L…
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Jason welcomes Dilshod Jumaniyazov as they discuss the concept of halal investing, which aligns with Islamic rules and laws, and its potential appeal to non-Muslims interested in social, responsible, and ethical investing. They also explore the rules and principles of Islamic finance, including the concept of 'halal' or permissible sources of reven…
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In this episode, Joe is joined by Ken Griffin, CEO & Founder of Citadel and Martina Cheung, CEO & President of S&P Global. Discussion covered Ken and Martina's early careers, independent thinking in the era of AI, defining market 'edge' in 2025 and the upcoming 2026 Football World Cup hosted in North America.…
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Jason and Alex Blackwood discuss the current state of the DC housing market, focusing on the impact of low mortgage rates, the challenges of housing affordability, and the potential for a widening wealth gap between homeowners and renters. They also explored the impact of the pandemic on the real estate market, the potential benefits of Trump's pol…
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Jason and Charles Goyette discuss the current political climate, the implications of tariffs and trade wars, and the potential for significant changes in government spending and taxation. They also explored the impact of technology on the economy, the concept of currency competition, and the potential for a global financial crisis due to increasing…
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In this episode, Joe is joined by Ben Way, Group Head of Macquarie Asset Management and Andrea Quirk, Global Head of Credit Ratings at S&P Global Ratings. Discussion covered the explosion in growth of datacenters, how AI is driving demand for digital infrastructure and Ben's view of being present in the moment throughout your career.…
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This interview delves into Steven Kuhn's "Humble Alpha" concept, focusing on internal strength and authenticity. Kuhn emphasizes discovering one's true identity through self-reflection and external feedback, culminating in a two-word moniker. He champions certainty and "HIT" principles (honesty, integrity, transparency) as foundations for leadershi…
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In this episode, Joe is joined by Andrew Schlossberg, President & CEO at Invesco, and Dan Draper, CEO at S&P Dow Jones Indices. Topics included Andrew's journey from Invesco's corporate training program to CEO, Dan's perspective on the evolution of index-based investing, Andrew's insights on AI integration in asset management, and Dan's view on the…
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In a rapidly evolving economy, being financially literate arguably matters more than ever. April is Financial Literacy Month, and two Atlanta Fed economic education experts discuss their work reaching students and teachers in this episode of the Economy Matters podcast.By Atlanta Fed
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Richard Duncan @RichardDuncanEconomics explores the potential benefits of a U.S. Sovereign Wealth Fund, advocating for increased government investment in key industries like AI and biotechnology. Duncan argues this strategy could significantly boost economic growth, enhance national security by countering China's technological dominance, and genera…
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In this episode, Joe is joined by Marcie Frost, CEO of CalPERS and Martina Cheung, CEO & President of S&P Global. Topics included Marcie's current view of the role of private assets in CalPERS portfolio, Martina's initiative and growth areas for 2025, Marcie's progression from typist to CEO and Martina's memories of breaking the gavel at the New Yo…
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A pandemic, inflation, interest rate swings—the housing sector has seen a lot of tumult in recent years. What does the residential real estate market look like today? An Atlanta Fed housing expert attempts to explain in this episode of the Economy Matters podcast.By Atlanta Fed
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In this episode, Joe is joined by John Zito, Co-President of Apollo Asset Management and Alex Birry, Global Head of Credit Research at S&P Global Ratings. Topics included views on private credit and the evolution of private markets, John's career trajectory to Apollo, Alex on global mega trends and John's advice for managing high performing teams.…
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Is Trump's America First policy the solution to the rising inflation in the US? Today, we dive into the details of Trump's economic approach and examine whether his America First policy is effective in combating inflation. From tariffs on foreign goods to tax cuts, we analyze the impact of Trump's policies on the US economy and explore whether they…
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From bringing inflation under control to maintaining a strong labor market, the eventful year that was 2024 gave Atlanta Fed president Raphael Bostic much to do as a monetary policymaker. Bostic joins the Economy Matters podcast to discuss the past year and how he approached his work.By Atlanta Fed
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Jason welcomes Josh Mettle, an expert in mortgages markets. According to Josh, the recent decline in mortgage purchase applications, despite rising home prices, is not indicative of a looming housing crash. This is because the current demographic trends favor homeownership, with millennials and Gen Z representing a large cohort of potential buyers.…
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Jason welcomes Harry Dent, a renowned economic forecaster, discussed the prolonged economic bubble. He emphasized that the current bubble, driven by massive government stimulus and money printing, is unprecedented in its longevity—three times longer than historical bubbles. Dent believes the bubble, which should have burst by 2021, has been artific…
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In this episode, Joe is joined by Michael Arougheti, CEO & Co-Founder of Ares and Lynn Maxwell, Global Chief Commercial Officer at S&P Global Ratings. Topics included Mike's memories of co-founding Ares, the rise in popularity of private markets and how Mike was offered co-ownership of the Baltimore Orioles.…
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In this episode of FI15, Joe is joined by Jon Gray, President & Chief Operating Officer at Blackstone and Doug Peterson, CEO & President of S&P Global. Discussion covered Doug's upcoming retirement, Jon on the future of private markets and infrastructure, Doug on GenAI and Jon on his viral jogging videos on Linkedin. This episode was recorded and p…
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Jason welcomes Elena Clark as they discuss Elena's experiences during the privatization phase in Russia, including her role as an attorney in Samara City and Moscow, and the economic transition from the Soviet Union to a free market economy. They also explored the land use system in Soviet times, the privatization of land, and the process of exchan…
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In this episode of FI15, Joe is joined by Richard Attias, CEO & Founder of Richard Attias & Associates and CEO of the FII Institute. Topics included the upcoming FII Institute event in Riyadh, Richard's relationship with H.E Yasir Al-Rumayyan, how to successfully build senior relationships and Richard's networking tips to progress your career.…
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Megan Gorman, author of "All the President's Money," explores the financial habits of US presidents throughout history. Gorman, a financial advisor, tax attorney, and wealth manager, discusses the presidents' varying approaches to money management, from frugal to extravagant. She also explores the historical context of each president's financial de…
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In this episode of FI15, Joe is joined by Mohamed El-Erian, President of Queens' College, University of Cambridge and Sudeep Kesh, Chief Innovation Officer at S&P Global Ratings. Topics discussed included the potential impact of AI on investing and portfolio management, how Mohamed incorporates data into his views, Sudeep on AI in movies and music …
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Jason and Robert Helms discuss the recent increase in mortgage refinancing activity and the ongoing housing shortage, its impact on the real estate market, and potential solutions for affordable housing. They also explore emerging real estate opportunities, such as investing in high-demand, low-supply markets and the potential of parking lots as an…
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In this episode of FI15, Joe is joined by Jay Sammons, Co-Founder of SKKY Partners and Raam Ratnam, Managing Director at S&P Global Ratings. Topics included SKKY Partners investment process, Jay's experience founding the company with Kim Kardashian, staying on top of consumer culture and Raam's takeaways from his career as an accountant.…
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Real estate investor Trey Taylor advocates for single-family homes as a stable, long-term investment. He emphasizes financial prudence, focusing on properties generating rental income that exceeds expenses. While acknowledging economic challenges like rising interest rates, Taylor remains optimistic about the housing market's resilience. His leader…
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The Dollar Milkshake Theory, proposed by Brent Johnson of Santiago Capital, predicts a surge in the US dollar's value compared to other currencies. This is due to the US's strong financial system, deep markets, and the dominance of the dollar in global transactions, like oil purchases. When a global debt crisis strikes, countries will scramble for …
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Jason welcomes Ivor Cummins, author of "Eat Rich, Live Long!", who transitioned from corporate problem-solving to investigating food supply corruption. He shared a conference stage with Jason Hartman, discussing elite class agendas. Cummins, a biochemical engineer, criticized the handling of COVID-19, comparing it to a severe flu. He believes media…
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In this episode of FI15, Joe is joined by Sebastien Page, Chief Investment Officer at T Rowe Price and Alexandra Dimitrijevic, Global Head of Analytical Research & Development at S&P Global Ratings. Topics included both guests views on global mega trends, the future glide path of interest rates and inflation, Sebastien's experience building a 40,00…
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Jason welcomes back Lynette Zang from Zang Enterprises, highlighting her expertise in the economy, sound money, and precious metals. They discuss the recent surge in gold prices, attributed to global central banks' increased gold purchases, despite market manipulation efforts to suppress it. Zang explains that rising gold prices indicate failing cu…
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Jason welcomes Catherine Austin Fitts, of the Solari Report back to his show after nearly eight years. Catherine, served as Assistant Secretary of Housing under George H.W. Bush. They discuss the disappearance of trillions of dollars from federal budgets, starting in the mid-90s and escalating over the years. By 2001, $4 trillion was unaccounted fo…
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Jason and Sean O'Toole of PropertyRadar.com discuss the current state of the real estate market, focusing on inventory trends, the impact of high interest rates, and the value of real estate over price. They also explore the potential for price drops, the influence of technological advancements on prices, and the challenges of rising housing costs.…
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Jason introduces Sahala Moshsin and her book "Paper Soldiers: How the Weaponization of the Dollar Changed the World Order" and discusses the impact of economic sanctions, particularly those imposed on Russia. They also explore the challenges faced by countries trying to work around the US dollar's global dominance, the mounting debt and its implica…
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In this episode of FI15, Joe is joined by Blackrock's Global Head of Private Debt James Keenan and Ruth Yang, Global Head of Thought Leadership at S&P Global Ratings. Topics included the rise in popularity of private markets, how both Blackrock and S&P Global Ratings approach the space, Jim's unpopular investment opinion and people inside and outsi…
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Jason and Lance Lambert finish their discussion as they explore the "lock-in effect" caused by historically low mortgage rates. They highlight the significant impact on home sales and turnover rates in the real estate market, with a 57% reduction in home sales due to fixed-rate mortgage holders unwilling to give up their low-interest loans. They al…
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Lance Lambert, co-founder of Resi Club, discusses the real estate market's nuances with host Jason Hartman. Lambert highlights the tight resale market, down 30-35% from pre-pandemic levels in 2019, noting that despite this, 2019 wasn't a buyer's market. Affordability strains persist, especially in areas like Connecticut, impacted by the "donut effe…
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