10x Recruiting is the podcast from Metaview that brings you real, unfiltered conversations with today’s top talent leaders. In each episode, Nolan Church (former Carta CPO & DoorDash Head of Talent) and his guests will challenge popular thinking and spark new ideas about what it takes to build world-class teams. We’ll bring you actionable tactics you can actually put into practice now and real metrics to understand what great looks like. Always with an eye towards the future, we’ll keep you ...
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Metaviews is a podcast about the big picture and what comes next. As an open source intelligence agency, Metaviews is focused on the future while also grounded in the present. Hosted by Jesse Hirsh and featuring a diverse range of guests, the show looks at the collision of political economy, technology, culture, and society.
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In this episode, Nolan and Siadhal share their boldest predictions for recruiting and AI in 2026. They debate the trends that might shape the year to come, including: AI-powered screening and sourcing going mainstream $100M offers for non-technical people The rise of the role of the “agent manager” Increasing invisibility of the ATS Social unrest f…
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The real job of a recruiter? Just two things.
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35:45What makes someone “good”? If you ask Dan McCarthy, Talent Partner at Paradigm (the world’s largest crypto VC), it’s not what’s on their resume. After two decades in tech, he’s got sharp takes on evaluating talent, building elite networks, and why AI will disrupt recruiting less than most people think. In this episode, Nolan and Dan cover the minds…
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GV’s Rhys Hughes on why hiring should actually be your last resort
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42:41Rhys Hughes has led talent at Adobe, Rubrik, and now GV—so when he talks about hiring, you listen. In this episode, Rhys joins Nolan to challenge conventional recruiting wisdom and lay out what actually works at the highest levels of hiring. From betting on internal talent to exposing the flaws in "time to hire," Rhys unpacks how world-class compan…
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In this crossover episode from HR Heretics, Metaview CEO Siadhal Magos joins Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich to demo Metaview's new autonomous AI Sourcing agent. They break down why AI-native sourcing tools are redefining what's possible in recruiting, how "promptless sourcing" creates magic from your hiring conversations, and why everyone from fo…
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Talent Partner 2.0: VCs don’t want advice. They want hires.
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40:42Matt Stephenson, Head of Tech Talent at Bain Capital Ventures, joins Nolan to get real about what VC talent partners actually do—and what it really takes to hire the best in 2025. This one covers the whole ground game: VC strategy, comp wars, secondary equity, sourcing experiments, and why the best recruiters today are business partners first. In t…
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In this episode, Amber Weinberg, Co-Founder and Managing Partner at Aperture, explains why most go-to-market leaders flop in interviews (hint: they don’t know how to tell their story), and why she ditches scorecards in favor of outcomes and cultural wiring. Her take? The best exec hires come from obsessively deep context—not checkbox criteria. You’…
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The next great recruiters will be grown, not hired
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43:45In this episode, Nolan sits down with Evan Connor, VP of Talent at Ambience, to unpack why the next generation of top recruiters won’t just be great at sourcing and pitching, they’ll be full-stack operators embedded in the business. You’ll learn: Why great recruiters are business operators first How to grow recruiting talent instead of waiting to h…
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How to stop wasting your outbound at-bats
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42:02Recruiting top talent isn’t just hard, it’s a game of scarcity. In this episode, Chandler Martin shares how to operationalize talent density with predictive hiring, disciplined outbound, and ruthless clarity. He covers: Why indiscriminate outbound is killing your long-term pipeline The predictive hiring model Zocdoc uses to anchor hiring managers H…
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Personio's Fritz Singer on the hard-won lessons of global scaling
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35:58Personio’s VP of Talent, Fritz Singer, breaks down what it actually takes to scale teams globally—and the hard-won lessons he learned along the way. You’ll hear how Fritz: Scaled Personio’s team across 30+ countries, and 12+ nationalities Built a bar-raiser program with actual teeth Made internal mobility a business priority Learned why “context be…
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72: Feeding Possibility: Open Innovation and Resilient Futures for Ontario’s Agri-Food System
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48:14In this episode, Jesse Hirsh explores how Ontario can lead the next era of agri-food innovation through openness, foresight, and resilience. Drawing on his keynote for the Agri-Food 2050 event, he argues that disruption is no longer a storm to weather but the environment we live in — and that trust, literacy, and community are our most vital infras…
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How to get inside the brain of your best interviewer
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29:41In this episode, Vercel's Head of Global Recruiting Ops,Viet Nguyen, and Nolan unpack a deceptively simple experiment that turned into a hiring cheat code: reverse-engineering the judgment of an A+ interviewer to level up everyone else. What started as a Friday night curiosity turned into a new framework for talent density, interviewer training, an…
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As a senior partner at Swing Search, Annie Wenzel has placed some of the most impactful GTM execs in tech—often before they were obvious bets. In this episode, she breaks down the playbook that consistently lands top 10% talent, even in a market full of fear, fatigue, and overpromising. This conversation is a masterclass in strategic recruiting: Wh…
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In this episode, Nolan shares unfiltered hot takes from Day One Ventures’ CEO Converge event—what CEOs really think about team chemistry, Glassdoor, and who makes the best salespeople. Then he shifts gears to show recruiters how to go beyond “AI slop” with two practical hacks from his own workflow: a custom GPT for LinkedIn posts and Metaview templ…
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AI interviewers are here—from CodeSignal’s new agentic interviewers to a 70,000-applicant experiment where an LLM voice recruiter beat humans in hiring customer service reps. Nolan and Siadhal break down where AI belongs in the process today, why high-volume/inbound is the proving ground, and how human connection still creates alpha. To learn more …
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References: The highest signal in hiring…or totally overrated?
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18:50Are references the most important part of hiring...or totally overrated? In this episode of 10x Recruiting, Nolan and Siadhal debate: Why references can be the highest-signal part of hiring—or a dangerous trap When to use "front door" vs backchannel references How to ask questions that actually reveal the truth (and not just polite praise) Check it…
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Slow fills, high bars, and AI’s next big leap
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34:55From the shortage of top-tier recruiters to the rise of ruthless talent density targets, Nolan and Siadhal break down what they’re seeing in the market right now. They cover three hot-button topics shaping recruiting in 2025: Why companies are moving slow on recruiter hires despite a flooded market The real meaning of “non-regrettable attrition” an…
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In this Metaviews salon, our motley crew dove deep into the wild and wondrous terrain of language—its power, its peril, and its paradoxes. We summoned thinkers like George Lakoff, Noam Chomsky, and Walter Ong to help frame the discussion, but as always, the most revelatory insights emerged from the collective intelligence of the group. We debated t…
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Hardcore hiring: An inside look at how Elon companies recruit, with Charles Guillemet
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36:20What does it really take to meet Elon's bar for talent? In this episode, we go deep with Charles Guillemet, whose recruiting career spans Neuralink, Gusto, Meta, and now LocalGlobe. Charles shares what it takes to hire elite operators, why gut instinct is underrated, and how Europe has become a magnet for top-tier tech talent. You’ll hear about: Th…
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Toast's Jeff Moore on what Big Tech gets wrong about recruiting
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34:42Jeff Moore spent 13 years at Google leading some of the company’s most elite recruiting teams. Then he left it all for Toast. Why? Jeff unpacks what Big Tech gets wrong about TA, why “just take the call” is still golden advice, how to scale a recruiting team from 20 to 80—fast, and so much more. We cover: How executive recruiting actually works whe…
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Shiv Brodie’s playbook for AI-powered recruiting leverage
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28:58In this episode of our How I AI series, Shiv Brodie (GTM recruiter at Metaview) walks us through the AI workflows she’s using day-to-day to source, engage, and assess top talent. She’s built a powerful system that gives her leverage at every step, and it’s surprisingly simple to replicate. In this episode, you’ll learn: How Shiv’s custom GPT turns …
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70: The Nature of Nature and Human Perceptions of the Natural World
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1:17:29Jesse Hirsh introduces the season 3 premiere of Metaviews with a compelling discussion about the intricate concept of "the nature of nature." The episode delves into how the term "nature" has become a catch-all reference point in discussions that often intertwine with politics and morality, leading to a paradoxical relationship with the environment…
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In the final episode of Season 2, Metaviews pauses to reflect—on where we’ve been, where we are, and where we’re going. Titled Chrysalis, this episode marks a moment of transformation. Season 2 was about finding our rhythm, tuning our instruments, and building trust in spontaneous, serendipitous dialogue. Now, with Season 3 on the horizon, we prepa…
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Andy Pittman: Stop selling jobs. Start selling better lives.
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49:00This week, Nolan chats with Andy Pittman, VP of Talent at ShipBob—the e-commerce ops platform that’s built one of the most disciplined talent orgs out there. Andy unpacks how ShipBob sets a high bar for hiring and holds themselves accountable to it. He breaks down their dead-simple but powerful “Would you rehire them?” system for tracking quality o…
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The truth about getting ahead: Lessons from Deepali Vyas on power, politics, and promotion
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47:49Today we’re talking about what it really takes to excel in your career. Deepali Vyas—25-year executive recruiter and the internet’s most-followed voice in career advice—gives a no-fluff masterclass on how to advance professionally. From negotiating comp to navigating office politics to the art of visibility, Deepali gets into how careers really get…
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"How I AI in recruiting” with Qonto's Samy Aumar
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34:29This week, Nolan and Siadhal kick off a new “How I AI in recruiting” series where we’re going deep into real-life workflows with the recruiting pros actually getting leverage from AI on a daily basis. First up: Samy Aumar, People Systems Excellence Manager at Qonto. Samy gives us an inside look at some of the custom AI agents he and the Qonto team …
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68: Chrysalis Moments: Transformations in Thought and Society with Ted Whetstone
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59:08In an insightful episode of Metaviews, Jesse Hirsh engages Ted Whetstone in a thought-provoking conversation that meanders through personal anecdotes, societal critiques, and philosophical musings. Jesse begins by sharing his unique ritual of goat walking, describing it as a form of spiritual practice that brings him peace and clarity. This light-h…
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67: Attention and Power with Jeremiah Patterson
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40:13Jesse Hirsh and Jeremiah Patterson engage in an insightful dialogue that delves deep into the intricacies of news, attention, and power dynamics in contemporary society. The episode unfolds with Hirsh's reflections on the spontaneous nature of their conversations, setting the stage for an exploration of significant current events. They tackle the s…
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Vercel’s Amina Moinuddin Darwish on winning the war for AI talent
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42:54In this week's episode, Nolan chats with Amina Moinuddin Darwish, Global Head of Talent at Vercel—masters of vibe coding and one of today’s hottest AI companies. Amina gets into how Vercel is winning talent in the super competitive world of AI. She also gives an inside look at how Vercel evaluates recruiters based on the long-term impact of their h…
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66: Disinformation, Organic Labels, and the Power of Dialogue
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1:19:11Host Jesse Hirsh welcomes back returning guests Mike Oppenheim and Russell McOrmond for a lively discussion that dives into the complex interplay between disinformation and the food system. The trio explores the nuances surrounding the recent news of a flight attendant implicated in a significant drug trafficking bust, sparking conversations about …
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65: No Human Nature: Neurodivergence, Eugenics, and the Future of Politics with Russell McOrmand
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1:11:14In this episode of Metaviews, Jesse Hirsh is joined by technologist and thinker Russell McOrmand for a wide-ranging conversation that dismantles the myth of "human nature" and exposes the lingering shadows of eugenics in modern institutions. Together, they explore how corporate culture has infested political discourse, reducing democracy to a sport…
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Metaviews host Jesse Hirsh and Madrid correspondent Jason Willis-Lee discuss the potential and possibility of organizing an event in Madrid. What do you think?By Metaviews Media Management Ltd.
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63: In Motion: Why Politics Gets Herd Dynamics All Wrong
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58:45In this mind-bending episode of Metaviews, Jesse Hirsh reconnects with resident Radical American Whackadoo, Mike Oppenheim, for an unscripted exploration of belief, hope, agency, and the beautiful chaos of human connection. Together they pull at the threads of how emotions drive our actions, how messing with people’s minds can be an act of love, an…
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Gem’s Steve Bartel on hiring product-obsessed engineers and leveraging AI for an unfair advantage
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38:41Gem co-founder & CEO Steve Bartel breaks down why a lot of startups actually hire the wrong kind of engineers and how to instead identify and attract product-minded technical talent. Steve and Nolan also dive into how AI is helping recruiting teams handle massive applicant influxes and personalize outreach at scale. Steve shares insider tips on how…
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Talent 2.0: Audacious Ventures’ Samantha Price on fighting for and closing elite early-stage talent
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40:14“Talent 1.0 is about advice. Talent 2.0 is about doing.” Sam Price, Talent Partner at Audacious Ventures, leaves it all on the battlefield when it comes to fighting for seed-stage talent to join “force-of-nature” founders. In this episode, she drops her genius-level playbook for how to sell and close 10x candidates at the earliest stages of buildin…
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What happens when the “perfect candidate” turns out to be fake? In this episode, Nolan and Metaview co-founder Siadhal Magos unpack the rise of AI-powered candidate deepfakes and what it means for hiring processes. From bad actors trying to steal company data to AI candidates successfully getting hired, the pressure is on for recruiting teams to ad…
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Coinbase’s Greg Garrison on building a 10x talent culture
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49:16What does it take to get “top talent in every seat"? Greg Garrison, VP of Talent at Coinbase, joins Nolan to break down how they’ve built one of the most high-performing cultures in tech. Greg shares how he spots top recruiters (hint: look for a competitive drive), why every Coinbase hire goes through CEO review, and how they build a hiring culture…
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In this episode of Metaviews, host Jesse Hirsh welcomes back Laura Brekelmans—our resident Goddess of Chaos, Complexity, and Contradiction—for a conversation that refuses to resolve neatly. Building on her previous appearance exploring the thought-worlds of Wittgenstein and McLuhan, this dialogue ventures deeper into the entangled relationships bet…
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61: Seeds for the Revolution with Greg Peterson
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59:39In this episode of Metaviews, agroecologist Jeanette Herrle sits down with Greg Peterson, from UrbanFarm.org, for a conversation about growing food as a radical act of autonomy and resistance. Together they explore how seeds—both literal and metaphorical—can serve as catalysts for systemic change. From backyard gardens to urban food forests, from m…
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Stop sourcing like it’s 2015: Chris Adams’ masterclass on future-proofed sourcing
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42:21In this episode of 10x Recruiting, Nolan sits down with sourcing OG Chris Adams—sourcer #1 at Uber, former Talent Partner at Atomic, and founder of TalentHerder—for a masterclass on modern sourcing. Chris dives into what most recruiters get wrong about calibration, why it's the most critical step in building an effective top-of-funnel, and how to a…
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60: Navigating Complexity: Future Philosophy with Ted Whetstone
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1:18:06The conversation between Jesse Hirsh and Ted Whetstone unfolds in a relaxed yet intellectually stimulating atmosphere, marked by their witty exchanges and spontaneous dialogue. They address the elephant in the room—American depression—against the backdrop of economic turmoil, exploring how news cycles influence public perception and individual ment…
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59: How to Prepare for the Next Great American Depression
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1:26:10Jesse Hirsh and Mike Oppenheim delve into the looming specter of the next Great American Depression, framing their dialogue around the economic and societal implications of such an event. They begin by discussing the various news items that set the context for their conversation, noting the intersection of sports and politics as a reflection of lar…
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Arthur Matuszewski on the cost of playing it safe in hiring
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47:02What if your biggest hiring mistakes aren’t who you hire — but who you don’t? In this episode of 10x Recruiting, Arthur Matuszewski (Managing Partner at Carrara, ex-Bridgewater & Better) unpacks the high cost of false negatives in hiring — the exceptional people who slip through the cracks because they don’t fit the usual mold. He shares how Bridge…
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Live from Transform: Learnings from leaders at Affirm, Greenhouse, & more
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49:15This week, we’re bringing you a special edition of 10x Recruiting live from the Transform conference in Las Vegas. From the Metaview booth, Nolan interviewed an epic lineup of talent leaders from companies like Affirm, Greenhouse, and more. Nolan and his guests cover everything from tactical tips on applying AI in hiring, to market insights on the …
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58: The Power of Sensitivity: How Neurodivergent Minds Are Shaping Tomorrow
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1:00:22Jesse Hirsh engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Anna Melnikoff, the dimensional liaison at Metaviews, as they delve into the intricate realms of neurodivergence and the evolution of human consciousness. The episode kicks off with a sharp analysis of the impending labor shortage, linking it to broader socio-political dynamics while emph…
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57: Navigating Chaos: Will Canada Invade the US?!
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1:17:08Jesse Hirsh engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Mike Oppenheim, navigating the complexities of community, immigration, and the current state of North America. They delve into how external pressures, such as political dynamics and societal changes, challenge the very fabric of community and identity. The discourse oscillates between hum…
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How the best companies in the world build talent density with Thach Nguyen
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34:19In this episode, Nolan sits down with Thach Nguyen, a recruiting leader who’s made his mark across heavy hitters like Airbnb, Sword, & Google and now runs his own exec search firm, Plenty Search. They cover what recruiting can learn from sales, why incentives in recruiting are out of whack, and the power of finding undiscovered talent. Check out th…
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56: Dynamic Thinking: Laura Brekelmans on Media, Biology, and AI
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1:06:22A fascinating exchange unfolds as host Jesse Hirsh invites Laura Brekelmans to engage in a lively discussion that spans the realms of biology, media, and politics. The episode opens with a light-hearted note about the dreary weather, setting the stage for a deep dive into the complexities of contemporary issues. Laura's reflections on the EU's mili…
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55: Laughing Through Controversy: The Future of Free Speech
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1:15:02Jesse Hirsh and Mike Oppenheim dive into the complex and often contentious topic of free speech, exploring its future in a rapidly changing socio-political landscape. They pose the provocative question, "What the f*** is free speech?" and consider whether the concept is evolving into something entirely different. The conversation meanders through t…
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How to build a world-class interviewing culture with a16z's Jordan Mazer
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41:41In the first episode of 10x Recruiting, Nolan Church gets into it with Jordan Mazer, Head of Talent at speedrun, Andreessen Horowitz's early-stage gaming accelerator. Jordan, who also previously worked at industry giants like Amazon and Riot Games, shares his insights on what it takes to build a world-class interviewing culture and why achieving hi…
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54: Cultural Anthropology and Professional Corporate Trespassing
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1:32:44A deep dive into cultural anthropology unfolds as Jesse Hirsh engages in a thought-provoking dialogue with Tamika Abaka-Wood. The conversation begins with a whimsical touch, as Jesse humorously sets the scene at the Academy of the Impossible, where goats are supposedly vying for seats, hinting at the spontaneity that characterizes their discussion.…
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