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State Repression, Vigilante Violence, and People's Resistance in the Philippines and Appalachia
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44:01This episode is a cross-post from CELDF's Truth and Reckoning podcast. On this episode we speak with Denzel Caldwell and Jassim Guila The interview with Denzel Caldwell was conducted by Kai Huschke, CELDF’s Executive Director. Caldwell is part of the Black Nashville Assembly and is Program Manager for Economics and Governance at the Highlander Rese…
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How to Stop Worrying and Love the Bulldozer
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34:00This is the reading of an article originally published here: https://maxwilbert.substack.com/p/how-to-stop-worrying-and-love-theBy The Green Flame
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This is the reading of an article originally published here: https://maxwilbert.substack.com/p/action-101-anatomy-of-a-campaignBy The Green Flame
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"First They Came for the Pro-Palestine Activists" - Attorney Terry Lodge on the Suppression of Dissent in Wartime
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1:09:27Attorney Terry Lodge on the increasing attacks against the First Amendment Right to free speech This is a repost of a new podcast I'm hosting with the Community Environmental Legal Defense fund. If you'd like to subscribe, you can find the show on Substack here (https://celdf.substack.com/t/truth-and-reckoning), or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etc. …
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"Patch by Patch, the Habitat is Being Erased" - Diamondback Terrapins with Dr. John Aguiar
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1:03:11This is a repost of a new podcast I'm hosting with the Community Environmental Legal Defense fund. If you'd like to subscribe, you can find the show on Substack here (https://celdf.substack.com/p/patch-by-patch-the-habitat-is-being), or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etc. I'll be republishing episodes of this show on The Green Flame podcast. On this e…
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The Rights of Water in New York State
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1:10:28This is a repost of a new podcast I'm hosting with the Community Environmental Legal Defense fund. If you'd like to subscribe, you can find the show on Substack here (https://celdf.substack.com/p/truth-and-reckoning-episode-1-the), or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etc. I'll also be republishing episodes of this show on The Green Flame podcast. ------…
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This is an audio recording of an article that can be found here: https://maxwilbert.substack.com/p/a-love-letter-to-my-old-home I recently moved away from my home for the last decade, a wooden cabin on the edge of an oak savanna. It was heartbreaking to leave that land, despite it being the right decision to make. So, I wrote a love letter to that …
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Meet the Native American Mother Being Sued by a Multinational Corporation
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7:06This is an audio recording of an article that can be found here: https://maxwilbert.substack.com/p/meet-the-native-american-mother-being This is the second in a series of articles introducing the Thacker Pass Six, a group of traditional indigenous people and grassroots activists — including myself — who are being sued by a Canadian mining company c…
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This Poet and Tribal Attorney is Being Sued by a Mining Company
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9:15This episode is the audio recording of an article published at https://maxwilbert.substack.com/p/this-poet-and-tribal-attorney-is. It is the third in a series of articles introducing the Thacker Pass Six, a group of traditional indigenous people and grassroots activists — including Green Flame host Max Wilbert — who are being sued by a Canadian min…
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Tesla is Killing the Planet — and 50k People per Year
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19:14This episode is the audio recording of an article published at https://maxwilbert.substack.com/p/your-tesla-is-killing-the-planet. In it, I write about Tesla's climate change impacts, which amount to more than 50 million tons of carbon dioxide equivalent emissions per year. According to one study, this quantity of emissions will cause 50,000 future…
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This episode is the audio recording of an article published at https://maxwilbert.substack.com/p/remembering-the-lost-giants. In it, I reflect on shifting baseline syndrome and the fact that redwoods aren't the tallest trees on Earth: they're the tallest which haven't been logged.By Biocentric
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This Native Elder is Being Sued by a Mining Company with Dean Barlese
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9:30This episode is the audio recording of an article published at https://maxwilbert.substack.com/p/this-native-elder-is-being-sued-by. In it, I introduce Dean Barlese, a traditional knowledge-holder from the Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe, an elder who was raised on old stories told by his father and grandparents. He’s the leader of the Pyramid Lake Spiri…
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Wildlife Rescue with 'All That Breathes' Brothers Nadeem Shehzad and Muhammad Saud
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1:01:00The Wildlife Rescue was formed in 2010 to provide quality health care, often on an emergency basis, to native wildlife. Located in Delhi, India the NGO was founded by brothers Nadeem Shehzad and Muhammad Saud. This interview is a conversation with Nadeem and Saud. Their work was the focus of a 2022 documentary film, All That Breathes, which won Bes…
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Lake Superior at Risk with Protect the Porkies Founder Tom Grotewohl
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1:10:38A massive copper mine is planned 100 feet from the edge of Lake Superior (and may actually mine underneath the lake), adjacent to "the most beautiful State Park in the country" in the Upper Peninsula (UP) of Michigan. Sound like a bad idea? It gets worse: Tom Grotewohl says this should be called a "toxic waste mine" because 98.55% of what is produc…
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Strategy for the Eco-Revolution with Roger Hallam
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1:00:23Roger Hallam is the co-founder of Extinction Rebellion, Radical Routes, Burning Pink, and Just Stop Oil. On today's show, we discuss strategy for the climate and ecological movements, the role of mass street protests and public assemblies, violence vs. nonviolence, revolutions throughout history, the collapse of industrial civilization, the dangers…
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Episode 100 Live Show: Looking Back on 5 Years
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1:45:44For episode 100 of The Green Flame, we hosted a special live conversation between hosts Jennifer Murnan and Saba Malik, Saba Malik, Renee Gerlich, Carl Van Warmerdam, and Rebecca Wildbear. We announced that the show has separated from Deep Green Resistance, reflected on the origins of the Green Flame, discussed our favorite and most impactful episo…
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Listening to our Listeners and an Invitation to Episode 100
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26:51Episode 99 is an interview with Carl Van Warmerdam. Carl delves into on the impact listening to the Ahjamu Umi Green Flame episode had on his life and activism. We asked Carl three primary questions: How has the GF informed and inspired you? What is your favorite episode? What would you like to hear more of on the GF? Please email contact@deepgreen…
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Tlingit Elder Wanda Culp and Joshua Wright - The Biggest Threat to the Alaskan Rainforest This Century
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1:05:44The Tongass Rainforest in Southeast Alaska is the last great expanse of temperate old growth forest left in the United States, and it has been partially protected since the "Roadless Rule" halted most logging there in 2001. Now, the "biggest threat to the west coast rainforest this century" is here: Bill S.1889/H.R. 4748, which would permanently pr…
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Dr. Nzingha Dalila | Black People for the Natural World
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1:16:39Dr Nzinga Dalilia, Saba Malik, and Max Wilbert join in conversation offering their unique perspectives on trauma, trauma community, addiction, “environmental justice”, othering, the necessity of feeling safe in the process of seeing and being seen, healing spaces, falling back in love with ourselves and with all of life and coming into our individu…
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Non-Violent Direct Action Strategy and the 2023 Attack on Radical Feminists in Portland
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1:24:28Before listening to this episode, stop. For the first time Lierre Keith’s presentation on non-violent direct action is publicly available! Go here and absorb this information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMk1eltyuek Next, listen this GF episode, Lierre’s account of ten courageous women's experiences as they organized and practiced NVDA brillian…
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Defending Palawan Island, the Philippines Last Ecological Frontier with PNNI founder Attny Bobby Chan
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35:20Attny Bobby Chan graces us with an introduction to the deep social justice and spiritual roots of PNNI (Palawan NGO Network Inc) founded in 1991. PNNI organizes communities through consensus. They use advocacy, civilian enforcement and increasingly are seeking legal measures to protect and defend the Palawan paradise. To learn more and support this…
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Water Protector and Dakota Access Pipeline DAPL Saboteur Jessica Reznicek
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39:03Jessica Reznicek is a 40-year-old land and water defender who has worked with and lived in the Des Moines Catholic Worker Community. After being charged with a "terrorism enhancement," she was sentenced to 8 years in 2021 for taking action to protect the water along the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) route by disabling construction machinery during …
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Ecology of Spirit: Biocentrism, Animism, and the Environmental Crisis
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12:16Species extinction. Plastic pollution. Global warming. Catastrophic floods. Raging fires. The failure of coral reefs. Whales dying en masse. Forever chemicals contaminating mothers' breast milk. Our planet is in crisis. And while the wealthy and governments pour trillions into technological so-called “solutions,” things are spiraling out of control…
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The Fairy Creek Blockade and "Eden's Last Chance" with Joshua Wright
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23:54Joshua Wright talks about his film Eden's Last Chance that was released in April of 2023. "For the nonhuman world, the apocalypse has already arrived. Don’t be a bystander to the death of the living world." Go to https://www.edenslastchance.com/ or watch it on Prime Video, Vimeo, Apple TV, Vudu, and Hoopla. The Fairy Creek Blockade has been establi…
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In this episode of The Green Flame podcast, host Max Wilbert shares an update about the lawsuit filed against him and six other water protectors (including Will Falk, who has been on the Green Flame before) related to their protests against the Thacker Pass lithium mine in Nevada. For more information on the lawsuit and the campaign, visit https://…
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We are asking for your help to keep the Green Flame moving — we need to raise $1000 or more for production equipment for our audio engineer. This equipment will also support the final edits to an audiobook version of Deep Green Resistance: Strategy to Save the Planet that we have recorded and are planning to release for free. Thank you so much for …
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"Our Rights to Self-Determination: a Hawaiian Manifesto" with Anne Keala Kelly
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1:22:07On this episode, Max Wilbert speaks with Anne Keala Kelly about her new short book, "Our Rights to Self-Determination: a Hawaiian Manifesto." In addition to being an author, Keala is a filmmaker, journalist, podcaster, and writer. Her published articles and Op-Eds have appeared in the Honolulu Star-Advertiser, The Nation, Indian Country Today, Hono…
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Renee Gerlich: Out Of The Fog - On Politics, Feminism and Coming Alive
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1:05:01Our third Green Flame interview with Renee Gerlich celebrates the publication of Out Of The Fog: On Politics, Feminism and Coming Alive (Spinifex Press, 2022). Renee is a writer, artist and feminist based out of New Zealand. We focus on the coming alive aspect of Renee's life and her new multidimensional book. From the Publisher: From racialised po…
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Live event recording from "Collapse: Climate, Ecology, and Civilization"
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2:41:36On November 19th, Deep Green Resistance hosted a special 3-hour live streaming event, "Collapse: Climate, Ecology, and Civilization" featuring Derrick Jensen, Saba Malik, Max Wilbert, Robert Jensen, Lierre Keith, and grassroots activists from four continents. This podcast is the audio recording of the event. If you wish to donate to support this wo…
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Join us for a Special Live Event on November 19th - "Collapse: Ecology, Climate, and Civilization"
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10:25Our way of life — industrial civilization — is destroying the planet. From coral reefs to the great forests, the last strongholds of the wild are falling. The climate is destabilizing. And we are entering the 6th mass extinction of life on Earth. Ecological collapse is here. This unprecedented crisis demands extraordinary solutions. And yet, govern…
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Joshua Clinton reads the article, "What is Biocentrism?" which was originally published on the DGR News Service on April 15, 2022. https://dgrnewsservice.org/civilization/ecocide/what-is-biocentrism-the-unfolding-miracle-of-life/By Deep Green Resistance
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"Don't Look Up" — Brilliant Critique of Climate Deniers or Neoliberal Fairy Tale?
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52:37In this episode, Max Wilbert and Carl van Warmerdam discuss the 2021 Netflix film "Don't Look Up," an extended allegory for global warming. We discuss whether the film is an accurate satire or a pandering neoliberal fairy tale - or both.
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Joshua Clinton reads the article: https://dgrnewsservice.org/civilization/ecocide/habitat-loss/bolivia-extinction-and-displacement-dams-not-green-energy/By Deep Green Resistance
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Abortion Rights in the US with Lauren Levey
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34:59Lauren Levey has had a lifelong involvement with women's rights and lesbian rights. She is a second-wave radical feminist who is currently on the Board of Directors of the Women's Human Rights Campaign USA, and serves as its Vice President. In this episode Lauren shares her radical analysis of abortion in America and on the fight to end the subjuga…
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Longtime environmental and social activist and co founder of the Mendocino Environmental Center Betty Ball reflects on ecofeminism and her relationship with Judi Bari. The music for this episode is provided by the late Gary Ball, Betty's husband and fellow co-founder of the MEC.
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"Principles of Sustainable Societies" with Dr. Heide Goettner-Abendroth
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1:12:52Dr. Heide Goettner-Abendroth's Girls and the Grasses keynote presentation, Principles of Sustainable Societies: Matriarchy as a Radical Alternative followed by a Q&A conversation with Lierre Keith, Michelle Martin, Rebecca Wildbear, Sue Breen and Jennifer Murnan. Check out the full event, which live streams on Saturday November 20th at 1pm Pacific,…
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Protecting Ancient Forests — Update from the Front Lines of Fairy Creek
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24:38In this episode Max speaks with Joshua Wright, a front-line activist who was amongst the first involved in blockading access to Fairy Creek, trying to prevent ancient old-growth forests from being destroyed by logging companies. There have been over 1000 arrests making it one of the largest acts of civil disobedience in Canadian history. These on t…
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Renee Gerlich - A Brief Complete Herstory
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58:55Renee Gerlich, feminist writer from Wellington, New Zeland outlines her seven book Brief Complete Herstory series. Renee established Dragon Cloud Press in 2021 to publish the series. An invitation to attend the online DGR Girls and the Grasses ecofeminist fundraiser on November 20th is offered at the conclusion of this podcast.…
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How to Protect What You Love with Deanna Meyer
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48:22Deanna Meyer is a serious longtime protector of Prairie Dogs. We discuss her work, how she got started, how her campaigns got so much attention from the media and how to take radical action in defense of what you love. Prairie Dogs are under constant threat, often getting gassed in their burrows in the name of 'development'. Protecting them also me…
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Exposing Solar and Wind Industry Lies with Chris Devault
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1:19:37Today's episode is a discussion with Chris Devault. Chris is a permaculture practitioner and environmental steward who has worked for many years in the solar and wind energy industries, and who is now dedicated to exposing the lies we are told about how wind and solar are 'green' and capable of saving the planet.…
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Defending Wild Buffalo with Stephany Seay
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32:19Stephany Seay has been on the front lines working to protect Yellowstone’s wild buffalo for the past twenty years. For this episode of The Green Flame, we discuss how she got involved in her work, what bison need in order to restore themselves, and tease Stephany's new buffalo and prairie protection organization. Music: I Need You by LiQWYD, https:…
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For this episode, Max Wilbert shares some updates from projects he is working on such as lithium mine resistance and Bright Green Lies. Music is Cinderella (Instrumental) by RYYZN https://soundcloud.com/ryyzn Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0.By Deep Green Resistance
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Resistance to HS2 is the focus for this episode of the Green Flame. HS2 is the high speed rail project whose first phase is under construction in the UK. HS2 is currently the largest infrastructure project in Europe. We thank Dr Maxey who has been heavily involved in the HS2 protests for interviewing for the Green Flame, and Kara for conducting the…
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Bright Green Lies Book and Film Discussion
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1:05:36On this episode of the Green Flame the DGR Book Club discusses Bright Green Lies by Lierre Keith Derrick Jenson and Max Wilbert. The discussion, led by Beth Robson, also encompasses the documentary film, Bright Green Lies. We are so grateful to Julia Barnes, the film's creator for joining us in this conversation.…
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Hanna Bohman on the YPJ and Fighting for Women's Rights in the Middle East
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53:32For this fascinating Green Flame episode Jennifer Murnan interviews Hanna Bohman. Hanna Bohman is a Canadian civilian who spent time volunteering in the effort to support women's rights in the middle east, including battling ISIS and liberating women in Syria. Motivated to fight, Hanna joined an all-female Kurdish army, the YPJ. A film, Fear Us Wom…
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This Green Flame Fairy Creek episode is an update with forest defender Carole Tootill recorded on the 300th day of direct action to protect old growth forest in the territories of the Pacheedaht and Ditidaht First Nations.
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This Green Flame episode is a Deep Green Book Club discussion and honoring of the documentary film Gather - https://gather.film/. We thank Kris for drumming us in with 'Drumming in the Mushroom Lodge', and drumming us out with 'After the clouds have passed... drumming with the Wakinan'.
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This episode of the Green Flame features Jore's music as well as an interview with this remarkable activist, artist, writer, musician, independent film-maker and freelance journalist. His work focuses on the interface between the dominant culture and the real impact on people, society and the environment and can be found at Jore.…
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The protection camp at Thacker Pass, Peehee mu'huh, has been in place for more than four months. This episode is an update starting with a new recording from May 18th, as well as audio from recent video updates recorded on-site by Max Wilbert over the past month or so. Poem "Newspeak" by Trinity La Fey. https://www.protectthackerpass.org Petition: …
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On the second episode of Radicalizing Permaculture, Beth Quist, multi-instrumentalist, vocalist, composer, environmental activist and writer joins Jennifer Murnan and Boris Forkel in conversation. Her performance of Me Phirava Daje Mori (Bombastic Version), a traditional Macedonian Rom accompanies this episode. You can find Beth at bethquist.com an…
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