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Finding God Outside of Politics with Matthew Sitman
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1:43:39Hello! This is a good episode of the show and about something we’ve been thinking about for a while: What is the role of organized religion going forward and will we see a return to the church as the cruelty of politics, technology, and the general malaise of modern life start to overwhelm us? Our guest, Matt Sitman, has thought a ton of about this…
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Great Books and the AI Apocalypse (w/ Matt Dinan) [Teaser]
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5:57Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at patreon.com/knowyourenemy. We were excited to record and share this conversation with Matt Dinan, a professor who teaches in a Great Books program at St. Thomas University, a liberal arts college in New Brunswick, Canada. It brings together longtime preoccupations of the show — Saul Bello…
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LIVE on Epstein, 60 minutes and Phil Rivers the Jockocrat we need
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1:46:32This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribeBy Time To Say Goodbye and Tyler Austin Harper
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UNLOCKED: Trump's Big, Beautiful Ballroom (w/ Kate Wagner)
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1:01:10This episode originally aired November 17, 2025 on Patreon — we're unlocking it as a holiday treat. If there's a Trump-era topic that manages to fascinate without being entirely depressing, it's probably the ongoing arguments about architecture that his ascension has occasioned. Proponents of a RETVRN to the architectural ideals of ancient Greece a…
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Episode 100: A last look back, and a grand finale
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1:06:43Episode 100 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.In this, our final episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh, FSPA talks with several previous guests and show producer Colin Wambsgans. You'll hear clips from some of our guests, such as Father Greg Boyle, Sister Helen Prejean, and Padraig O’Tuama, and new check…
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Kang did a Substack Live with repeat TTSG guests Max Read and John Ganz. We talked about the Trump Reiner tweet, the Compact white men article, and the future of the news. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe…
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(Not) Reading in the Time of Robots with Celine Nguyen and Leif Weatherby
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1:45:31Hello! Today, we have an episode about how nobody can read anymore, AI, humans, and why we’re so afraid of the robots with Celine Nguyen, the great author of the Personal Canon substack, and repeat guest Leif Weatherby, who came by to talk about his book Language Machines: Cultural AI and the End of Remainder Humanism. Enjoy! This is a public episo…
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What We Got Wrong (and Right) about the Right in 2025 [Teaser]
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6:28Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at patreon.com/knowyourenemy. As the end of the year approaches, we wanted to look back at another year of trying to understand the American right—what we got wrong, what we got right, and what to expect in 2026. The conversation begins with the cracks showing in Trump's coalition, his plumm…
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Kaitlin Curtice: story and cyclical spirituality
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40:05Episode 99 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh, FSPA talks with Kaitlin Curtice. They explore Indigenous spirituality, the power of stories, the cyclical nature of being, expansiveness and liminality, the difference between certainty and faith, joy in art, Moth…
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One Podcast After Another (w/ Jesse Brenneman)
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1:04:43Given the not-terribly-uplifting streak of episodes we've had lately, we thought it was time for a Know Your Enemy movie night, and were joined by the podcast's intrepid producer, Jesse Brenneman, for a conversation about Paul Thomas Anderson's 2025 film, One Battle After Another. Its tagline—"When their evil enemy resurfaces after 16 years, a grou…
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The waiting soul gives: hope-filled resistance to tyranny
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0:37Note from the editor:Due to unforeseen circumstances, the Messy Jesus Business podcast and blog schedule have been switched around this month. Check back the next two weeks for our final podcast episodes, with many more blog posts to follow! Modern Christians often fail to discuss that the Christian Church was established during a time of widesprea…
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Hegseth Memes and Is Trump Just an Interior Decorator Now? With Patrick Hultgren
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1:17:53Hello! Today we have back our Consultant of War and the Joe House of the podcast, Patrick Hultgren, to talk about Pete Hegseth, the war crime memes, and we go over our favorite new theory about Trump: He’s spending all his time planning his big new fancy ballroom and doesn’t care anymore what happens with the government, which is why all these cabi…
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Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at patreon.com/knowyourenemy. Should you try to improve your friends or leave them be? Do friendship and politics mix? Is friendship about virtue or delight? In 2023, we were interviewed by Andrew Elrick, now a professor at Marist University, for a documentary podcast he was making about men…
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The Furious Minds of MAGA (w/ Laura Field)
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1:09:36Laura K. Field's Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right, published earlier this month, is a book we simply had to discuss. Listeners to this podcast will recognize its cast of characters—conservative intellectuals like Patrick Deneen, Michael Anton, John Eastman, Adrian Vermeule, and Harry Jaffa, among others—whose ideas and influence Fiel…
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Episode 98 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh, FSPA talks with timone davis. They explore naming what you see in people, the military, Christ's peace, inner paradoxes, asking the deeper questions, and much more.Podcast: Play in new window | DownloadSubscribe: …
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Larry Summers Asks Epstein for Dating Advice and Zohran's First Moves with Bhaskar Sunkara
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1:35:29Hello! Today, we have on Bhaskar Sunkara, President of The Nation and founding editor of Jacobin. We talk about his best sports bets, the Larry Summers email scandal, and what Zohran’s early days and robust popularity might mean for the left. Very lively episode here so please give it a listen! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss thi…
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Trump's Big, Beautiful Ballroom (w/ Kate Wagner) [Teaser]
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4:27Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at patreon.com/knowyourenemy. If there's a Trump-era topic that manages to fascinate without being entirely depressing, it's probably the ongoing arguments about architecture that his ascension has occasioned. Proponents of a RETVRN to the architectural ideals of ancient Greece and Rome are …
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Dems Cave on the Shut Down and Why Nobody Goes to the Movies Anymore (audio version)
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1:35:04Hello! Today, we talk about the big cave by the Democrats over the shutdown, whether it actually matters and a little bit about the declining box office numbers across the country and why people no longer seem to be going to the movies. Enjoy! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus epis…
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LIVE! The government shutdown and why people don't go to the movies anymore.
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Zohran, the Jews, and Reckoning with Gaza (w/ Peter Beinart)
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1:14:27This episode isn't focused on a single topic or text, but rather just wanting to have a wide-ranging conversation with our guest, Peter Beinart, editor-at-large of Jewish Currents and author of the recent book, Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza: A Reckoning. We start by discussing the appalling wave of Islamophobic attacks against Zohran M…
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Episode 97 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh. In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh, FSPA talks with Vincent Noth, executive director of the Kinship Community Food Center in Milwaukee. They explore faith, segregation, inequality, systemic racialized poverty, mystical experience, food as entry poi…
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We went live at 9PM as the polls closed in New York City and talked about Zohran, voting demographics, Graham Platner, and the “future of the Democratic party.” Enjoy! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe…
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This is a different kind of episode than is typical; there's no book, no central text, not even a single, central event that guides the conversation. Instead, we begin with a few recent news items—speculation about Trump 2028, Speaker Mike Johnson's refusal to swear in a Democratic congresswoman, the stunning abdication of Congress as the shutdown …
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Hello, Today we play a game called “I didn’t read that article” in which one of us has read an article and the other one hasn’t and we ask questions about it. Today’s topics are the NBA betting scandal which made front page news last week and a new feature in Harper’s about the “Gooniverse” of young, pornography addicted young men. Enjoy! This is a…
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Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at patreon.com/knowyourenemy. The theme of this rank punditry episode is Getting in Trouble on the Internet, and we begin with the frankly unsurprising story of the Young Republican Hitler group chats, then move on to a longer discussion about Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate in Main…
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Michele Dunne, OFS: kinship and conversion
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40:35Episode 96 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh. In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh, FSPA talks with Michele Duane, OFS, executive director of the Franciscan Action Network (FAN). They explore secular Franciscanism, activism, the interests of government vs. the interests of gospel, Franciscan dis…
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Comedians are the New Pundits and No Kings Thoughts
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1:12:05Hello! We’re both back this week to talk about the No Kings protests, the space comedians take up in political commentary these days. Do we really want Andrew Schultz and other comedians to be the new pundits? Enjoy! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substac…
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A New Novel about the Space Race, Drugs, and Cults with Joshua Wheeler
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1:04:27On today’s episode, Tyler talks to Joshua Wheeler about his brilliant debut novel, The High Heaven. Focusing on a UFO cult survivor who is obsessed with NASA, the novel spans her entire life and decades of American history. Josh talks about his literary influences, how his working class upbringing in New Mexico shaped his work, and the state of con…
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How Charles Murray (Almost) Predicted the Trump Era
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1:32:56This episode is the second in our occasional series on important, controversial, or unusually relevant conservative texts from the recent past. Here we take up Charles Murray's 2012 book, Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010. With its focus on the ascendence of a new "cognitive elite," cultural divides, and the pathologies afflicting…
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Episode 95 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh. In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh, FSPA talks with author and podcast host Matthew Sitman. They explore conversion to Catholicism, the breadth and universality of the Catholic Church, humility and openness, cancel culture, Pope Francis, mercy, ide…
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The Future of the Media with Maxwell Tani
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1:25:27Hello! Today we’re talking the media business, the news that Bari Weiss will now be the Editor in Chief of CBS News, and what we think will happen during a period of inevitable fracturing and consolidation. Our guest is longtime listener and excellent reporter Maxwell Tani of Semafor. Enjoy! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this w…
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Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at patreon.com/knowyourenemy. Before embarking on a spirited bout of rank punditry, we take a step back and talk about the Staple Singers, Hannah Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism, Tocqueville's Democracy in America, Zohran, and giving a damn about both your "fellow man" and democracy. The…
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Why are Hobbies So Damn Expensive Now?
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1:18:03Hello! Today we take a break from politics and talk about hobbies and a thing that Tyler coined “hobby inflation” where everything from clay pigeons to green fees to surfboards to knitting tools have all skyrocketed in price since the pandemic. What does this mean to the future of “doing fun s**t” and how does it dovetail with the never-ending rise…
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Death, Power, and the Charlie Kirk Memorial (w/ Pat Blanchfield)
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1:26:21To try to understand both the power and strangeness of the Charlie Kirk memorial—one part evangelical worship service, one part MAGA rally—we turned, of course, to our friend Pat Blanchfield. All three of us stewed in the event's footage, which runs to over four and a half hours, then convened to discuss it. After laying out for listeners what happ…
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Episode 94 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh, FSPA talks with author and poet Cole Arthur Riley. They explore embodiment, resisting meritocracy, story, collective memory, letter writing, resistance, the tension between practice and belief, interiority, and mu…
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Kimmel, Free Speech, and the University as the New Church with Zena Hitz
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1:37:06Hello, Today, we have back on one of our favorite guests, Zena Hitz, a philosopher who teaches at St. John’s College. We talk about Kimmel’s canceling and uncanceling, the history of free speech in a conformist country like America, and the university’s place as the crucible for all discourse refereeing. Is this a good thing or is the modern univer…
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Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at patreon.com/knowyourenemy. The assassination of Turning Points USA founder Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, seemed to change the landscape of American politics in an instant, inspiring a startlingly unanimous battlecry of vengeance from the conservative movement, the GOP, and the Trump…
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Charlie Kirk and Do We Need Better Debates with John Ganz
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1:24:42Hello! This week we talk about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, what he meant to the GOP and the right, in general, and the space he occupied within the broader political discourse. Our guest this week is John Ganz of Unpopular Front. *Apologies in advance for a shift in audio in the middle — Kang’s internet kept freaking out and we had to switch…
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The Case for Democracy (w/ Osita Nwanevu)
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1:20:27Since the start of the Trump Era over a decade ago, few words have been deployed as often as "democracy": how it's become imperiled, who threatens it, and what to do to defend it. In The Right of the People: Democracy and the Case for a New American Founding, Osita Nwanevu sets out to understand the true meaning of democracy and defend it from its …
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Trump Raids His Own Hyundai Plant, Chicago, and the Return of the NFL
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1:12:49Hello! This week we talk about the ICE raid of the Hyundai plant under construction in Georgia, the incoherence of the Trump agenda, the threat of national guardsmen being deployed in Chicago, Ezra Klein’s op-ed about the rise of authoritarianism and the lack of preparation within the Democratic party and we even talk some Week 1 NFL. Enjoy! This i…
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An Officer and a Spy (w/ John Ganz) [Teaser]
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3:48Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at patreon.com/knowyourenemy. Roman Polanski's 2019 film about the Dreyfus affair, An Officer and a Spy, only recently made it's U.S. "premier," running for a few weeks in August at Film Forum in New York City. When it originally was released, it couldn't find an American distributor (and li…
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What Can RFK Actually Do and the History of Anti-Vaccine Movements with Jonathan Berman
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1:06:14Hello! Today, we have on a promised guest, Jonathan M Berman, an assistant professor in Basic Sciences at New York Institute of Technology, Arkansas, the co-chair of the 2017 March for Science, and the author of a 2020 book called Anti-Vaxxers: How to Challenge a Misinformed Movement. In light of last week’s turmoil and spate of resignations and fi…
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Frank Meyer, Inventor of Conservatism (w/ Daniel J. Flynn)
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1:45:13Devoted Know Your Enemy listeners will recall that, in November 2021, we released a fairly dense, theory-driven episode on Frank Meyer, the Communist from New Jersey whose exploits on behalf of the Party in the UK got him kicked out of the country and back to the United States, where he eventually turned right and became a key figure in the post-wa…
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Trump Seizes the Means of Production and Zohran's Bench Press
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1:01:08Hello! Today we talk about Trump’s bid to create a sovereign wealth fund by investing in private companies, the parallels these actions have to his shakedowns of elite universities and Zohran’s attempt to throw up 135 on the bench press. We also talk about the “Badasses,” a group of Democrats who are trying to blend suburban mom vibes with their fo…
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The Christian Right's "Wild Faith" (w/ Talia Lavin) [Unlocked]
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1:00:48This episode was first published in October 2024, and has been un-paywalled following the death this week, on August 21, of Focus on the Family founder and influential figure on the religious right, James Dobson, at age 89. Subscribe to Know Your Enemy on Patreon to hear more episodes just for subscribers. In this episode, Matt is joined by journal…
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Has AI Sold Out? with Jessica Dai and Ben Recht
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1:23:37Hello! Today, we have on Jessica Dai and Ben Recht to talk about AI culture, Jessica’s prescient article from 2 years ago about alignment and the priorities of AI companies. What do these companies actually want? And who will define what AI culture is going forward? A bunch of frothy people on Twitter or will it just be the priorities of companies …
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The Minority Voters Moving Right (w/ Daniel Martinez HoSang)
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1:27:05A major topic following Donald Trump's victory in the 2024 presidential election has been his gains with racial and ethnic minorities, a trend that's scrambled many people's assumptions about American politics, not least those of anti-racist liberals. Why have minority voters drifted toward Trump, despite his many comments and campaign pledges that…
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Four Years of New York City that Changed the World with Jonathan Mahler
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1:03:32Hello, This week, we have a long talk with an author we both have admired for a while, Jonathan Mahler. His new book, The Gods of New York: Egoists, Idealists, Opportunists, and the Birth of the Modern City: 1986-1990, is a chronicle of how a four year stretch in New York City laid down the groundwork for a new city, one that fully separated itself…
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From Armageddon to Zionism — More Listener Questions [Teaser]
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4:59Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at patreon.com/knowyourenemy. Our mailbag runneth over! Unsurprisingly, we received so many excellent questions from subscribers for our most recent episode that we decided to answer even more of them. Once again religion seemed to be on the minds of listeners, and we take up charismatic Chr…
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