If you're a fan of smart and lively conversations about food, home cooking, and culture, this is the place. We interview the most interesting characters in the world of food, media, and cookbooks and release episodes several times a month. The program is hosted by TASTE editors Aliza Abarbanel and Matt Rodbard, and is sometimes recorded live at Rizzoli Bookstore in New York City. Visit TASTE online: tastecooking.com
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The Splendid Table has always connected people through the common language of food and eating. Now with award-winning food journalist Francis Lam at the helm, we’re bringing forward even more fresh voices and surprising conversations at the intersection of food, people and culture – covering everything from the global appeal of sesame to the impact of Instagram on everyday eating. It’s a food show where everyone is welcome. Produced by American Public Media. Part of the Vox Media Podcast Network
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This is a podcast for the deeply online, where we chat about all things tech, crypto, and pop culture news. Brought to you by Boys Club, a NY-based media and creative studio, and hosted by Deana Burke and Natasha Hoskins. Have questions? So do we.
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We tell the compelling stories behind cookbooks you won't get anywhere else. Featuring interviews with leading authors, we explore the art and craft of cookbooks, looking at both new and vintage cookbooks and the inspirations behind them … the compelling people who create them … and their impact on home cooks and the culinary world. saltandspine.substack.com
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670: New York’s Brunch Recession on Food Writers Talking About Food Writing with the New York Times Nikita Richardson & Matt Rodbard
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56:02It’s the return of Food Writers Talking About Food Writing. Every couple of weeks, Matt invites a journalist to talk about some favorite recent food writing as well as their thoughts on the industry as a whole. In today’s episode, we have a great conversation with Nikita Richardson. Nikita is an editor in the Food section of The New York Times and …
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Bonus Episode:  How We Survive's The Uncanny Valley of Meat
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32:15Today we have a bonus episode for you, featuring our very own Francis Lam. How We Survive is an award-winning podcast from Marketplace about the messy business of climate solutions. From the glitz and glam of Miami, to the punishing Arizona desert, to a sinking island that our national security depends on, every season takes listeners on an adventu…
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678: Smithereens Charts Its Own Course with Nikita Malhotra & Nick Tamburo
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1:14:00Nick Tamburo and Nikita Malhotra are the chef and wine director of Smithereens, a New England-style seafood spot in the East Village. Their thoughtful, imaginative takes on regional culinary traditions and their own cravings result in a totally singular restaurant—and today on the show, we’re unpacking how food and drinks combine at Smithereens. An…
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677: Is Sourmilk the Graza of Yogurt? Kiki Couchman Bets on Bettering the Microbiome.
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54:27Kiki Couchman is the cofounder of Sourmilk, a well-positioned yogurt company with more hustle than the average start-up. We found Sourmilk on social media and was impressed even before we tried the creamy and probiotic-rich yogurt. It’s good stuff, as is Kiki’s story about how she quit her finance job to start a yogurt company with her best friend—…
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Ep: 215: Lead Levels and AI Matchmaking: The Future of Health and Relationships w/ Special Guests: Tom Schmidt on "The Macro," Priyanka Desai on Seed Investing, Paris Martineau on Lead in Protein ...
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1:47:14In this live episode of Boys Club, the hosts kick off the show from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, introducing new co-host Miranda and covering a broad spectrum of topics with their guests. Special Guests: Tom Schmidt, Priyanka Desai, Paris Martineau and Dini Mullaji They discuss the state of crypto with Tom Schmidt, covering market trends and the evolvin…
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676: Michael W. Twitty Went Deep On American Southern Food
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53:06Michael W. Twitty is an acclaimed culinary historian and the author of the two-time James Beard Award–winning book The Cooking Gene as well as Rice and Koshersoul. His encyclopedic new book, Recipes from the American South, is a deeply researched, home cook’s guide to the vast genre of Southern cuisine, offering historical insight alongside a diver…
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Ep: 214: AI's Erotic Turn and Fertility Chat: The Future of Tech and Society w/ Special Guests Sam Cole on Erotic Era, Parker Jay-Pachirat on Gen Z Investing, Fhantom Bets on Polymarket Scams, and ...
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1:37:51This live episode, broadcasted from New York City, dives into diverse and fascinating topics, featuring various speakers Each segment is packed with valuable insights and thought-provoking discussions making for an engaging and informative live show. Timestamps: 00:00 Live from New York City: Kicking Off the Show 01:12 Today's Exciting Agenda 11:19…
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Ep: 213: AI Companions & Tech Tidbits w/ Special Guests Reggie James on Pecha Kucha, Avi Schiffmann on Friend, Rachel Mayer on Stablecoins, and Cheryl Douglass on Sora 2
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2:02:23Ep 214: Crypto, AI Companions, and the Future of Tech Special Guests: Reggie James, Avi Schiffmann, Rachel Mayer Cheryl Douglass Join us as we explore the latest in crypto, technology, and AI companions. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Setup 00:55 Upgraded Audio and Learnings 01:38 What is Boys Club? 03:01 Engaging with the Audience 03:19 Sponso…
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Ep: 212: Silicon Valley Chats: Claire Kart with Hot Takes, Jill Gunter on Zcash, Zara Stone on Chinese Peptides, Gloria Allorbi on Hot Sauce Selling in Erewhon, and Adi Thacker on Poshmark Insights
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2:10:38Boys Club Live from Menlo Park: Peptides, Crypto Privacy, and Poshmark Insights | Special Guests Claire Kart, Jill Gunter, Gloria Allorbi, Zara Stone, and Adi Thacker Tune in for a packed show full of intriguing conversations, industry insights, and more! Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome to Boys Club Live 01:15 Shoutout to A16Z and Polygon 03:36 Bitcoin H…
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813: Fall Cookbook Favorites with authors Carolina Gelen, Sonoko Sakai, and Jody Eddy
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49:22Cookbook season is back, and we talk to the authors of some of our favorite picks. We're joined by Carolina Gelen, who talks to us about learning how to cook, her favorite Romanian dishes, and how she comes up with her signature recipes like Butter Beans alla Vodka, a fast, one-pot dish inspired by the famous vodka pasta sauce. Carolina is the auth…
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675: The Incredible Nite Yun and Why Cambodian Food Is So F*cking Good
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1:16:35Nite Yun was born in a refugee camp after her parents escaped from war-torn Cambodia. Her family eventually moved to California, where she grew up listening to her father’s Khmer rock and roll music and learned to cook traditional Cambodian dishes from her mother. Inspired by trips to Cambodia to learn about her heritage, Nite dedicated herself to …
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674: Sean Sherman Shares The Diverse Indigenous Foods of Turtle Island
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1:11:29Sean Sherman is an award-winning chef, educator, author, and activist. A member of the Oglala Lakota Sioux tribe, he is dedicated to reviving Indigenous food traditions through his Minneapolis restaurant Owamni, the nonprofit NATIFS, and cookbooks like the fantastic new book Turtle Island. Today on the show, we talk about the years of research that…
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673: That Time Alice Waters Went Canoeing With RFK Jr.
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55:19This one has been a long time coming! The one and only Alice Waters joins us in the studio for an amazing conversation. We naturally talk about her legacy at Chez Panisse, the pioneering restaurant in Berkeley, California, that opened in 1971 with California farmers front and center. There would be no farm-to-table movement without Alice. We also t…
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836: Italian Two Ways with Chefs Joshua McFadden and Christian Petroni
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50:09This week, we’re diving into Italian cooking, from the Pacific Northwest to the Bronx. First, chef and author Joshua McFadden joins us to talk about Six Seasons of Pasta, his love letter to everyone’s favorite food. Known for his hit cookbook Six Seasons: A New Way with Vegetables, Joshua brings that same seasonal sensibility to pasta, pairing loca…
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672: Eric Wareheim Is Eric Steakheim Now
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1:01:34Eric Wareheim is an actor, director, winemaker, and writer based in Los Angeles. You may know him as one half of the comedy duo behind the cult-followed Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!, but in recent years, he’s been making a foray into food and wine, starting with the New York Times Best Seller cookbook Foodheim. His new book, Steak House, c…
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We’re taking a break from food conversations to highlight another love of ours: Great music. In Fela Kuti: Fear No Man, Jad Abumrad—creator of Radiolab, More Perfect, and Dolly Parton’s America—tells the story of one of the great political awakenings in music: how a classically trained "colonial boy" traveled to America, in search of Africa, only…
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671: The Best Restaurants In America Aren’t Always New with Jon Bonné
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43:35Jon Bonné is Resy’s managing editor, and the author of The New French Wine and other books, and a winner of awards from most major food organizations. We always love having Jon in the studio, and today we talk in detail about the Resy 100, a decisive and illuminating list of restaurants around the United States that define dining today. The list ha…
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669: Behind the Scenes of Topjaw and Sweating Out Michelin Stars with Jesse Burgess
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42:27Jesse Burgess is behind Topjaw, the wildly popular, restaurant-centric social media account covering the food scene in London and beyond. Jesse is also the host of a cool new series on Apple TV+ called Knife Edge: Chasing Michelin Stars, which is streaming now. The show follows several restaurants, including Coqodaq, Nōksu, and the Musket Room (in …
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812: Bread with Richard Hart and Our South, Black Food Through My Lens with Ashleigh Shanti
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49:49This week, we sit down with two chefs at the top of their craft. First, we talk to legendary baker Richard Hart about the inspiration behind his new book, Richard Hart Bread: Intuitive Sourdough Baking. He fills us in on why he thinks that humble bakers are the best bakers, how he really is just a simple “yeast farmer” and he shares his realistic t…
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668: To Die For: Rosie Grant Is Documenting Gravestone Recipes
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1:16:00Rosie Grant is the creator of Ghostly Archive, a project documenting the real-life phenomenon of recipes inscribed on tombstones in cemeteries around the world. After years of seeking out these immortalized dishes, she’s released a truly singular cookbook, To Die For: A Cookbook of Gravestone Recipes. Today on the show, we chat about the project, c…
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John Bersani on the art of Tuscan hospitality
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43:17Hi there, happy Thursday! Recording this week’s episode with John Bersani reminded me why I started Salt + Spine in the first place: to sit down with a cookbook author and glimpse their world. We’re often recording in studio—or more often these days, virtually—and it’s easy to miss the small details that make these conversations so alive. But there…
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667: This Pasta Conversation Will Change Your Home Cooking Life with Joshua McFadden
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54:46This one is a long time coming, and we’re thrilled to welcome Joshua McFadden to the studio. Joshua is a chef based in Oregon and the author of one of the most beloved cookbooks of all time, Six Seasons. He’s back with a new one that is equally incredible. Six Seasons of Pasta takes the same six-seasons principle (discussed in the episode) to pasta…
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666: Vittles Editor Jonathan Nunn Is Redefining UK Food Media
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1:09:27Jonathan Nunn is the London-based founder and coeditor of Vittles, a food and culture newsletter based in the UK and India. Vittles is a singular source for incisive writing about contemporary food culture, from deep dives to restaurant reviews, and it’s a pleasure to have Jonathan in the studio to talk about what’s shaping its ever-growing coverag…
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665: Queer Eye Was a “Middle-Aged Boy Band” with Antoni Porowski
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1:20:04Antoni Porowski is best known as the food and wine expert on the Netflix series Queer Eye, which will be airing its final season later this year. He’s a best-selling author and the host of a terrific food travel show, No Taste Like Home. Matt joined him onstage at the Traverse City Food & Wine festival for an amazing conversation. The event was hos…
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835: Fall Cookbooks with Aleksandra Crapanzano, Anna Ansari, and Cassie Yeung
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50:19This week, we’re celebrating new fall cookbooks that belong on your kitchen counter. First, Aleksandra Crapanzano, author of Chocolat: Parisian Desserts and Other Delights, takes us from Marie Antoinette’s early “truffle” to the French art of baking at home. She leaves us with her Chocolate Ganache Tart with Raspberries. Then, Anna Ansari explores …
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664: Food Writers Talking About Food Writing with Elyse Inamine & Matt Rodbard
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54:24It’s the return of a special video podcast series: Food Writers Talking About Food Writing. It’s available on the TASTE YouTube channel, so make sure to subscribe and check out the video version of this podcast. Every couple of weeks, Matt invites a journalist to talk about some favorite recent food writing as well as their thoughts on the industry…
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663: Restaurant Chef Life with Sara Kramer (Kismet) and Sarah Thompson (Casa Playa)
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59:05Today we have a really great episode where we go behind the scenes with two incredible chefs, Sara Kramer and Sarah Thompson. Sara Kramer is co-chef and co-owner of Kismet in Los Angeles, a restaurant that blends Mediterranean and Californian sensibilities flawlessly. Kismet has been a go-to for LA diners for nearly a decade, and we talk about her …
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662: Pastry Diplomacy with David Lebovitz
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1:08:01David Lebovitz is a cookbook author and pastry chef based in Paris. After spending 13 years in the pastry kitchen at the legendary Chez Panisse, he embarked on a prolific blogging and cookbook writing career. His latest is an all-new edition of the classic Ready for Dessert, a revised and expanded collection. It’s so fun to talk with David about li…
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811: Does This Taste Funny with Stephen and Evie McGee Colbert and Taste in Music with Alex Bleeker and Luke Pyenson
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49:55This week, we sit down with Evie McGee Colbert to talk about her latest book, co-authored with her husband, Stephen Colbert. She tells us about the dynamics in her family’s kitchen, the joys and challenges of cooking together during the pandemic, Charleston food traditions, and we take a listener question from one special caller! Evie’s latest book…
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661: Ruby Tandoh Knows Why We All Eat This Way
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1:00:26Ruby Tandoh is a writer and baker based in London. A finalist on season four of The Great British Bake Off, she’s written several smart and singular books, including the fantastic new book All Consuming: Why We Eat the Way We Eat Now. It’s an incredible exploration of taste as a social construct that traces the historic and cultural context behind …
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Deuki Hong & Matt Rodbard chart a culinary revolution in Koreaworld
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48:08Hi there, happy Thursday! What I’m Reading… * Food photographer extraordinaire Eva Kolenko (who’s shot more than 50 cookbooks) has a new Substack and she’s pulling back the curtain on her work. (Eva joined us in our Behind the Spine series back in 2022.) * Cookbook author Marian Burros died at 92 this week. NYT obit. While she authored a dozen-plus…
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660: Muse Is a Los Angeles Restaurant Scene Secret with Fardad Khayami
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1:13:38Fardad Khayami, the chef-owner of Muse in Santa Monica, has a really great story. Raised in London, and a restaurant fan basically from birth, Fardad attended University of Southern California and started hosting his own pop-up dinners, first for friends and then for ticket holders. The waiting list reached over 6,000 names, and he eventually chann…
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Jake Cohen returns to the studio for a really fun conversation. Jake’s a talented cookbook author who is most certainly in the modern social media mix. His new book, Dinner Party Animal, is honestly a joy to read. It offers complete party plans with recipes in the Jake Cohen style—smart, a little sweaty, and with fun and creativity at the center. W…
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658: Novelists Ed Park & Jason Diamond Get the Food Details So Right 
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1:21:52Today is a really special episode for Matt in that we dive into two of his great loves: food and fiction. In this episode, he catches up with two authors and journalists he has deep respect for: Ed Park and Jason Diamond. Ed is the author of the terrific new short story collection An Oral History of Atlantis and a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize. W…
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834: Fall Cooking and Bitter Flavors with Genevieve Ko and Alexina Anatole
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50:16This week, we’re diving into fall cooking and the beauty of bitter flavors. First, Genevieve Ko, deputy editor at New York Times Cooking, joins Francis to take your fall cooking questions. From freezing smart to cabbage makeovers, Genevieve shares practical advice for making the most of fresh produce and tackling leftovers. She also shares the NYT …
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657: Eater’s Fall Cookbook Preview with Bettina Makalintal
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52:08Bettina Makalintal is a senior reporter at Eater and helps lead the publication’s cookbook coverage. Today Eater released a list of its favorites from the busy season, and we talk all about it, as well as some trends Bettina is seeing in book publishing. I always look forward to Eater’s robust and well-considered lists of books each season, and thi…
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656: Real Talk About Cervos and Eel Bar with Aaron Crowder
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1:16:00Today on the show, we have a great conversation with Aaron Crowder. Aaron is the chef-partner at two of New York’s buzziest restaurants, Eel Bar and Cervos. In fact, these restaurants are often mentioned on this show’s TASTE check segments. I had a wonderful talk with Aaron about his Florida upbringing and what he is excited to cook this fall. At…
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In Their Words: Elizabeth Poett on Life and Legacy at Rancho San Julian
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3:30Elizabeth Poett reads from 'The Ranch Table' about cattle herding and the rhythm of ranch life. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit saltandspine.substack.com/subscribeBy Brian Hogan Stewart and Elizabeth Poett
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655: Top Chef Melissa King Doesn’t Need a Restaurant
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42:37Melissa King is a chef, entrepreneur, television personality, activist, model, tastemaker, and author of the incredible new cookbook Cook Like a King. She is the winner of Bravo’s Top Chef: All-Stars L.A. and holds more challenge wins than any other competitor in the history of Top Chef. As mentioned previously on the show, I love Cook Like a King.…
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654: Who Made Bon Appétit’s Best New Restaurants List? Joseph Hernandez Helped Make the Tough Calls.
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48:39Today on the show, we have a great conversation with Joseph Hernandez. He’s the associate director of drinks & lifestyle at Bon Appétit and Epicurious, and we talk about BA’s best new restaurants of 2025 list that drops today. It’s a terrific list that covers the United States with ambition and great taste, including stops in Pittsburgh, Honolulu, …
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810: Đặc Biệt with Nini Nguyen and The Authentic Ukrainian Kitchen with Yevhen Klopotenko
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50:16This week, we talk with two incredible chefs about their culinary connections to their homes. First, chef Nini Nguyen talks about growing up in New Orleans and her connection to her tight-knit Vietnamese community. She shares the delicious Vietnamese foods she grew up eating and talks about how that upbringing shapes her cooking today, Nini is the …
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Ep: 211: Apple Event Highlights, NASDAQ's Tokenized Securities, Guest Mark Stenberg (AdWeek) on Patreon vs. Substack, Guest Adam (Tokenworks) on the PunkStrategy, Guest Andy (Hypurr.fi) on Hyperliquid ...
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1:00:10Thank you to Polygon for supporting this show. <3 00:00 Introduction to Boys Club Live 02:18 Agenda Overview 03:54 NASDAQ's Tokenized Securities 07:32 Apple Event Highlights 15:34 Patreon vs Substack with Mark Stenberg 28:35 PunkStrategy Explained with Adam from TokenWorks 31:48 Excitement for the Next Punk Purchase 35:16 Crypto Wallet Supply Chain…
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653: Evan Funke Makes up With the Pasta Machine
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1:09:07Evan Funke is a Los Angeles chef and roller of pastas, starring on Netflix and in the dining rooms of Felix Trattoria, Mother Wolf, Funke, and other restaurants in his expanding empire. It was such a pleasure sitting down with Evan in Los Angeles to talk about his wild ride of a career, the good word on the restaurant Funke in Beverly Hills, and ho…
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A year of recipes and stories from Elizabeth Poett's California ranch
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45:23It’s been over a year since I traded my life in California for one in Italy. And while I’ve easily fallen into daily life here, I still crave the way California marked the seasons—not always with weather (hello, San Francisco), but with food. For the eight years I lived in the Bay Area, food was always the signal of change: Early Girl tomatoes in t…
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You may know cookbook author and culinary personality Dan Pelosi as GrossyPelosi, a self-proclaimed “Italian meatball making meatballs.” Dan’s approachable recipes and warm personality, and his debut book, Let’s Eat, have won him lots of fans online and off, and his second cookbook, Let’s Party, delivers more comfort—and lots of smart entertaining …
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651: Understanding AI in the Grocery Store, Sweetgreen's Dip, and Tariff Chaos with Dan Frommer
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1:15:14Dan Frommer is the founder and editor in chief of The New Consumer, an influential publication that covers the intersection of technology and consumer brands—and many of these brands live in the food world. We wanted to have Dan back on the show to talk about his new trends report. As Dan writes: “Between tariffs, geopolitics, DOGE, egg prices, mea…
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