This is the podcast for Aspiring, Middle and Senior Leaders in Education. Each week we dive into a topic to talk leadership, strategy, culture and the business of K-12 education to define what success looks like in an educational setting in the 2020's and beyond. Our mission for the podcast is to create the best free professional learning on the internet for school leaders. Hosted by Mat Irving and Luke Callier. Covering school leadership, education leadership, school leaders, principals.
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Mathew Irving Podcasts
Interviews with experts and high-profile guests discussing the most important issues affecting the future of health and care for people in the UK.
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61: AI in health care: an update from the US
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38:07How can AI be implemented safely and effectively? We look to the US for clues. AI is going to have a huge impact on health and care. In England, the government’s 10-Year Health Plan aims to make the NHS ‘the most AI-enabled care system in the world’. But with AI innovations coming thick and fast, and the health technology market awash with unproven…
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E121 | Understanding School Brands with Belinda Wall - Director Brand Amplified
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1:04:31In this episode we talk in depth about School Branding, and the connection between brand and the tone and voice of the Principal in communications. Checkout Brand Amplified at: https://www.brandamplified.com.au/ Checkout PrincipalsHQ at: https://www.principalshq.com.au/ And find Edleaders at: https://www.edleaders.com.au/…
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60: The upcoming national cancer plan – and lessons from Denmark
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30:17We've seen real progress in cancer care in the UK: survival rates have doubled since the 1970s and death rates have fallen by around a fifth. But cancer still causes around 25% of all deaths today – and services are facing big challenges. Cancer survival in the UK lags other similar health systems, the rate of improvement in survival has slowed, an…
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In our third conversation with former health secretaries, we speak to Sajid Javid about the future of the NHS and its long-term funding model. Sajid was Secretary of State for Health and Social Care from 2021 to 2022, before resigning from the Johnson government. He previously served in several cabinet positions, including as Home Secretary and Cha…
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58: Alan Milburn on the 10-Year Health Plan
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20:54Is the government’s 10-Year Health Plan the medicine the NHS needs? We ask two former health secretaries. In the second of two special episodes, we speak to Alan Milburn about the future of the NHS and his thoughts on the government’s 10-Year Health Plan. Alan was Secretary of State for Health from 1999 to 2003, during the Blair governments, with h…
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57: Jeremy Hunt on the 10-Year Health Plan
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18:47Is the government’s 10-Year Health Plan the medicine the NHS needs? We ask two former health secretaries. In the first of two special episodes, we speak to Jeremy Hunt about the state of the NHS and his reaction to the government’s 10-Year Health Plan. Jeremy was Secretary of State for Health and Social Care between 2012 and 2018, in the Cameron an…
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E120 | Mat joins Dr Deb Netolicky on an Edu Salon X Edleaders Collab
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49:24Join Mat and Deb as they explore their Principalships in a broad ranging and candid conversation about leadership, transitions, finding professional nourishment and sustaining wellbeing. Want to know more? - EdLeaders Australia podcast https://www.edleaders.com.au/podcast Join the conversation: - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: …
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56: Are neighbourhoods the real answer to better health? – with Hilary Armstrong and Andrew O’Brien
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33:10Our surroundings play a big role in shaping our health. And some neighbourhoods – including so-called ‘left behind areas’ – can be tough places to live, with limited economic opportunity, low levels of social mobility and social capital, and poorer health. All this contributes to people in the most deprived areas on average living 19 fewer years in…
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E119| Starting a third Principalship with 20yrs Experience - Chris Ivey, Principal of Somerset College
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47:13A great conversation with Rev Chris Ivey as he enters his third principalship,.We chat about whats different this time around, as well as what the experience as the Chair of AHISA brought to his day to day role.
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118 | Strategic Insight with Stuart Robinson - Director of Morningtide
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49:02In this episode we chat with Stuart Robinson from Morningtide Consulting about all things strategy.
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55: When work isn’t working: tackling the UK’s sickness problem – with Jon Ashworth and Sacha Romanovitch
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36:448.2 million working-age people report having a long-term health condition that limits their ability to work. 1.7 million say that work itself is making them ill or creating challenges. In addition to causing personal hardships, this decline in working-age health is causing concern among employers, politicians and policymakers. With the benefits bil…
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117 | Emotional Intelligence & Human Skills Deep Dive with Renata Sguario - Founder of Maxme
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1:10:25A great chat about the importance of Emotional Intelligence in Leadership and how we go about instilling emotional intelligence in young people.
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54: Abolishing NHS England: a chat with outgoing chair Richard Meddings
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36:17‘Today we are abolishing the biggest quango in the world,’ – Wes Streeting, 13 March 2025 Many people were surprised by the government’s decision to abolish NHS England and fold its functions into the Department of Health and Social Care. Not least Richard Meddings, Chair of NHS England since 2022. Having formally completed his term in March, Richa…
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E116 - Australian Edtech OG - Grant Grosser, Co-Founder of SEQTA
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1:04:15A cracking chat with Grant Grosser, Co Founder of SEQTA.
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53: The health mission unpacked – with Hannah White and Jo Bibby
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30:30It’s 2 years since Keir Starmer first set out his five missions for government, including a health mission to build ‘an NHS fit for the future’ and ‘a fairer Britain, where everyone lives well for longer’. Missions were supposed to mean a new way of doing government – focused on ambitious, long-term objectives that provide a driving sense of purpos…
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E115 | After Principalship with Andrew Syme, Multi-time Principal
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42:53A great chat with Rev Andrew Syme about his leadership journey and life after the Principalship and what that meant for him.
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52: ‘Chemical soup’: the everyday exposures affecting our health – with Tracey Woodruff and Thomas Hartung
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35:43There are around 350,000 synthetic chemicals in use today and only a small fraction have been robustly tested for their long-term effects on our health. Many of these are used in manufacturing plastics and microplastics – the production of which has doubled since 2008 and is projected to triple by 2060. Unknowns remain, but research is suggesting p…
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E114 | Embrace the Discomfort, Shane Smith - Co Founder of Education Perfect
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56:28A great chat with Shane Smith, CoFounder of Education Perfect. Shane takes us on his journey to creating an International software powerhouse.
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E113 | Nick Johnstone on Regional Leadership - Principal, Bishop Druit College
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1:01:06A classic chat with Nick Johnstone on regional leadership and how his sabbatical led to a significant change in his path.
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51: What should the NHS 10-year plan look like? – with Nigel Edwards and Hugh Alderwick
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32:48There’s been no shortage of NHS plans over the years – what needs to be different this time? Health and care services are facing acute pressures and the NHS tops the public’s list of priorities. The government has pledged to ‘reimagine’ the NHS via a 10-year plan, expected in the spring. The pressure is now on to develop a credible reform plan. It …
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Mat Irving and Luke Callier review the year that was 2024 - Mat's first as Principal at Great Southern Grammar in Albany and Luke's mid year shift to the Director of Business Operations at St Hilda's in Perth. This Episode was brought to you by PrincipalsHQ - checkout PrincipalsHQ.com.au for more details and to sign up to the waitlist.…
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111 | The Next Word is…. with Matt Esterman
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56:19In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, Luke Callier and Mathew Irving sit down with Matt Estermann, the dynamic Director of Innovation and Partnership at Our Lady of Mercy College. With a career that spans a love for ideas, tech-savvy solutions, and a healthy dose of "let's try this and see if it works," Matt unpacks what it really means to inn…
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We look back at our pick of the pod from 2024. As 2024 draws to a close, what to make of the year’s developments in health and care? As yet, a murky picture on NHS reform and on how the new Labour government’s five missions will work in practice; a pressing need to improve the health of the working-age population; and some promising ways forward fo…
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110 | School Reputation: Insights from Stephen Holmes, Founder of The 5Rs Partners
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44:11In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, Luke Callier and Mathew Irving sit down with Stephen Holmes, founder of The 5Rs Partnership, a global strategy consultancy for schools and universities. Stephen brings his wealth of experience—from navigating the quirks of school leadership to redefining reputation management in education. They discuss why…
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49: Analogue to digital in the NHS: is the shift within reach? – with Holly Krelle and Erik Mayer
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39:35Health secretary Wes Streeting has set out three big shifts the NHS must deliver – including moving from analogue to digital. National strategy on health technology and digital is developing at pace, with a 10-Year Plan for the NHS expected to set out new priorities in the spring. We’ve seen no shortage of initiatives, roadmaps and plans for tech a…
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109 | The Ever Evolving Role of a Principal with Chris Duncan, CEO - Australian Heads of Independent Schools Association
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1:08:54In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, Luke Callier and Mathew Irving are joined by Chris Duncan, CEO of the Association of Heads of Independent Schools of Australia (AHISA). Chris shares his extensive experience in education leadership, including his pivotal role in transitioning Pulteney Grammar to co-education and serving as principal at Lin…
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E108 | Principal Conversations with Lorna Beegan
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1:09:14In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, Luke Callier and Mathew Irving sit down with Lorna Beegan, the first-year principal at Strathcona Girls Grammar School, to dive into her transformative journey in K-12 education leadership. Lorna shares her extensive experience, from her early passion for teaching in Perth to leadership roles at St. Hilda’…
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E107 | The Connection Curriculum with Matt Pitman
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58:35In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, hosts Luke Callier and Mathew Irveng sit down with Matt Pitman, the senior program lead at Global Village Learning and author of The Connection Curriculum, to explore the importance of building strong community ties and fostering relationships in education. Matt shares his journey from teacher to leader, d…
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48: Understanding race, ethnicity and health inequalities – with Heidi Safia Mirza and Shabna Begum
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36:31The UK is becoming more ethnically diverse: nearly 20% of the population reports being from a minority ethnic background and projections suggest growing diversity is the future. People from minority backgrounds in the UK experience a variety of inequalities. But what is the latest evidence telling us? A comprehensive analysis of race and ethnicity,…
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E106 | Rethinking Digital Wellbeing in Education with Dr. Kristy Goodwin
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42:39In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, Luke Callier sits down with Dr. Kristy Goodwin, a leading expert in digital well-being and productivity. Together, they explore the profound effects of technology on the brains, stress levels, and overall well-being of both children and adults. Dr. Goodwin shares her journey from teaching to researching th…
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E105 | ScotsX with Dr. Hugh Chilton of The Scots College
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1:07:20In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, Luke Callier and Matthew Irving sit down with Dr. Hugh Chilton from The Scots College to explore transformative leadership and innovative strategies in K-12 education. Dr. Chilton shares his remarkable journey from avoiding a teaching career to becoming an influential leader in education. He underscores th…
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E104 | Principal Conversations with Dr. Marie Perry, Principal of Ipswich Junior Grammar School
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1:02:29In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, Luke Callier sits down with Dr. Marie Perry, the Principal of Ipswich Junior Grammar School, who brings over 20 years of experience in educational leadership. Dr. Perry shares her inspiring journey into education, reflecting on the early influences and values that shaped her career. Dr. Perry shares her ex…
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47: Why are cancer rates rising among younger people? – with Kimmie Ng and Charles Swanton
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37:46Since the early 1990s, there’s been a concerning uptick in cancer incidence among adults younger than 50 years. Scientists are racing to understand what’s driving these trends. Some evidence points to roles for established risk factors – including smoking and obesity. But some research is also exploring environmental exposures – such as microplasti…
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E103 | The Evolving Role of Community Engagement and Philanthropy in Independent Schools: Insights from Myfanwy Stanfield
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1:03:53In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, Luke Callier and Matthew Irving sit down with Myfanwy Stanfield, Director of Community Engagement at Ascham School, to explore the evolving role of community engagement and advancement in independent schools across Australia. Myfanwy shares her unique journey from the arts industry to education, highlighti…
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E102 | Insights from PARED Leadership with Trent Thomas, Principal at Lysterfield Lake College
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56:21In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, Luke Callier and Matthew Irving are joined by Trent Thomas, the founding headmaster of Lysterfield Lake College, an all-boys school in Melbourne. Trent shares his unique transition from the corporate world to education, offering valuable insights into school leadership, strategy, and culture. Discover the …
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E101 | Celebrating 100 by revisiting Episode 1 - The 7 Traits of Great Leaders in K-12 Eeducation
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1:08:22Join Luke and Mat as they revisit episode 1 - How have our thoughts on leadership in K-12 education evolved over the last 4 years? Tune in to find out as we chat about the original list as well as a discussion about our favourite guests and what they've enjoyed about their Edleaders journey.
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46: A new government and health after the general election: part 2 – with Hannah White and John McTernan
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31:18There’s a new Prime Minister in Downing Street and a new political reality in the UK. But what does it all mean for health and care? The incoming government faces a range of complex policy challenges – many of them linked to health and care – and a daunting fiscal inheritance. While the public might show patience for a few months, they will expect …
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E100 | Building Towards the Future with Dr. Adrian Camm, Principal at Westbourne Grammar School
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1:01:16In this episode of the Ed Leaders podcast, Luke Callier and Matthew Irving are joined by Dr. Adrian Camm, Principal of Westbourne Grammar School, delving into his transformative leadership journey in education. Adrian highlights strategic planning for a new campus to meet Melbourne's educational demands, emphasizing distributed leadership, operatio…
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E99 | Kerrie McDiarmid - 2024 Edutech Mini Series
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32:10Use special code Edleaders20 to save 20% off your tickets to Edutech, and Edleaders will see you there!!!
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E98 | Doug Thomas - 2024 Edutech Mini Series
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44:25Use special code Edleaders20 to save 20% off your tickets, and Edleaders will see you there!!!
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E97 | Michael O'Keeffe - 2024 Edutech Mini Series
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54:06Use special code Edleaders20 to save 20% off your tickets, and Edleaders will see you there!!!
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E96 | Lauren Sayer - 2024 Edutech Mini Series
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40:43Use special code Edleaders20 to save 20% off your tickets, and Edleaders will see you there!!!
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E95 | The Toddle Story with Deepanshu Arora, CEO of Toddle
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1:00:03Join Luke Callier and Matthew Irving on this insightful episode of the Ed Leaders podcast as they sit down with Deepanshu Arora, a co-founder and CEO of Toddle, the pioneering force in educational technology. Delve into Deepanshu's transition from McKinsey consultant to entrepreneur, and discover how Toddle revolutionizes K -12 education with strea…
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45: The general election and health: part 1 – with Sam Freedman and Paul Corrigan
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36:54As the general election approaches, what are the main parties planning on health and will it make a difference? Polling day is rapidly approaching and all the main party manifestos have now been published. But when it comes to health and care, do we know what we’re voting for? Many commentators have expressed deep frustration at the opacity of the …
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E94 | Luke on the Changing the Game Podcast, by VICI Ventures
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30:27In this episode, Luke answering the questions as he appears on the Changing the Game Podcast, by VICI ventures.
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E93 | Live with Jan Owen at the Toddle Leaders Meetup Melbourne
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45:47This was recorded live at the MCG in March 2024, we hope you enjoy!
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44: Sure Start: a model for long-term policymaking? – with Naomi Eisenstadt and Donna Molloy
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33:08More long-term, mission-led policymaking is sorely needed, but how best to do it? The Sure Start programme was set up with the aim of giving young children the best possible start in life, narrowing gaps in outcomes for disadvantaged children. First announced by the New Labour government in 1998, it has evolved regularly over the past two decades. …
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E92 | Macro Change with Bronwyn Lee, CEO of Learning Creates Australia
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55:59This episode features Bronwyn Lee, CEO of Learning Creates Australia. Bronwyn shares her thoughts on self-determination and the crucial development of transferable skills for future careers. She advocates for a transformative shift in the education system, focusing on equity and preparing students for the ever-evolving job market. We also delve div…
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Join Luke Callier and Mathew Irving as they delve into the intricate process of transitioning from one leadership role to another in this latest episode of the ‘Ed Leaders’ podcast. Through heartfelt discussions and personal anecdotes, they explore the importance of reflection, integrity, and effective communication during times of change. Mathew s…
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E90 | Fostering Empathy and Personal Growth with Simon Shepherd, Principal at Westminster School Adelaide
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58:03In this episode of the ‘Ed Leaders’ podcast, Luke Callier and Mathew Irving are joined by special guest Simon Shepherd, principal at Westminster School Adelaide, who shares invaluable insights on fostering empathy and personal growth within leadership roles. Learn about the transformative experiences at Westminster School Adeliade, where empathy is…
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