Best Marie Ming Podcasts (2025)

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Episode 4 | The Last Mughals | William Dalrymple 43:53

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'Bahadur Shah Zafar writes poetry in six different languages and through the sheer brilliance of his example, he provokes this last great renaissance in Delhi.' – William Darymple In the fourth episode of the Frieze Masters Podcast 2025, writer and broadcaster William Dalrymple discusses the art, poetry and politics of the last Mughals with curator…

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Episode 3: Black Atlas | Edward George & Matthew Harle 29:11

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The Image of the Black archive at The Warburg Institute comprises more than 30,000 images documenting representations of people of African descent from antiquity to the civil rights era. In 2025, images from this collection were shown in public for the first time as part of 'Black Atlas', an exhibition and moving-image essay directed by Edward Geor…

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Episode 2: An Encounter in Spiritual Spaces with Mark Rothko and Fra Angelico | Christopher Rothko & Carl Strehlke 34:25

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When Mark Rothko visited Fra Angelico's frescoes at the convent of San Marco in Florence, he was 'overwhelmed,' recounts his son, the psychologist and writer Christopher Rothko. 'That's what he wanted for his viewer,' says Rothko, 'to look at his artwork as sources of inspiration, spirituality and contemplation.' In the second episode of the Frieze…

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Walt Interviews David Otey – Own the Virtual Stage 1:00:00

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Do you want to know how to confidently connect with an unseen audience? David Otey will show us how to own the virtual stage. David Otey gets it. He understands the challenges of presenting technical material. In the 1990s, while working as a broadcast engineer, David made a presentation at a conference of his peers. Immediately after lunch (i.e., …

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Episode 1: Confessions in the Museum | Tracey Emin, Nicholas Cullinan & Arturo Galansino 47:53

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'My discovery of early Renaissance art was completely by accident in the National Gallery, by just walking down a few more stairs...I'd stay there for about an hour, and then I would come out, I'd close my eyes, and as I pushed the doors, I would imagine my paintings'. –Tracey Emin In the first episode of the 2025 Frieze Masters Podcast, artist Tra…

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Typology 50:45

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Melvyn Bragg and guests explore typology, a method of biblical interpretation that aims to meaningfully link people, places, and events in the Hebrew Bible, what Christians call the Old Testament, with the coming of Christ in the New Testament. Old Testament figures like Moses, Jonah, and King David were regarded by Christians as being ‘types’ or s…

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Kali 57:41

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the Hindu goddess Kali, often depicted as dark blue, fierce, defiant, revelling in her power, and holding in her four or more arms a curved sword and a severed head with a cup underneath to catch the blood. She may have her tongue out, to catch more blood spurting from her enemies, be wearing a garland of more severe…

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Pope Joan 46:37

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss a story that circulated widely in the middle ages about a highly learned woman who lived in the ninth century, dressed as a man, travelled to Rome, and was elected Pope. Her papacy came to a dramatic end when it was revealed that she was a woman, a discovery that is said to have occurred when she gave birth in the st…

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Episode 7: Plastic Power | Abraham Thomas, Nathalie du Pasquier & Annabelle Selldorf 30:50

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'When you make a painting, you want to make a good painting. You are more interested in the composition of the things, than in the precise description of the things.' – Nathalie Du Pasquier In the seventh and final episode of Series 3 of the Frieze Masters Podcast, artist Nathalie Du Pasquier, architect Annabelle Selldorf and Curator Abraham Thomas…

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Episode 6: Pictorial Language & Poetic Translations | Glenn Ligon, Zoé Whitley & Dia al-Azzawi 35:12

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'If I can let the viewer stand in front of my painting and question – if they can ask a question – this is success.' – Glenn Ligon How does the written and spoken word relate to the visual language of painting, sculpture and installation? To discuss this connection and the power and potential of poetry, the sixth episode of the Frieze Masters Podca…

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Episode 5: The State We're In | Mark Leckey, Jenny Waldman & Polly Staple 30:13

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'What's left for art? Art can offer ritual and ceremony, a communal place where bodies can gather. It's a place where things can happen visually, musically, sonically, and in dance and with the voice.' – Mark Leckey In the fifth episode of the Frieze Masters Podcast, artist Mark Leckey, curator Polly Staple and Director of Art Fund Jenny Waldman re…

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Episode 4: Spatial Intelligence | Nairy Baghramian, Glenn Lowry & Julian Rose 35:24

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'Isn't to exhibit to historicize?' – Julian Rose Artist Nairy Baghramian, Director of the Museum of Modern Art Glenn Lowry and historian Julian Rose all have extensive experience of presenting art in public places and thinking about civic spaces. In the fourth episode of the Frieze Masters Podcast, they come together to rethink the role and design …

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Episode 3: The Power of Painting | Gabriele Finaldi, Jan Dalley & Shirazeh Houshiary 41:11

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'The viewer makes the painting alive. Without the viewer, that thing doesn't exist.' – Shirazeh Houshiary What happens to our understanding of painting when we expand the canon across eras and cultures? In the third episode of the Frieze Masters Podcast, artist Shirazeh Houshiary, Director of the National Gallery Gabriele Finaldi and arts editor Ja…

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Episode 2: Faces of Community | Barbara Walker, Ming Smith & Lou Stoppard 49:07

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'You have an idea and it goes off in another direction and you either pull it back or you go on the journey. I knew I wanted to make some portraits, but I also knew I didn't want to. I wanted to create some tension.' – Barbara Walker In the second episode of the Frieze Masters Podcast, artists Barbara Walker and Ming Smith, and writer and curator L…

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Episode 1: Good Governance | Chris Bryant MP, Jeremy Deller and Victoria Siddall 33:44

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'What do we want the UK to look like in 10 years, 20 years, 50 years in terms of culture?' – Victoria Siddall The first episode of the 2024 Frieze Masters Podcast brings together Sir Chris Bryant MP, artist Jeremy Deller and new director of the National Portrait Gallery Victoria Siddall to talk about 'Good Governance'. How can everyone in the UK ac…

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Karma 50:55

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the doctrine of Karma as developed initially among Hindus, Jains and Buddhists in India from the first millennium BCE. Common to each is an idea, broadly, that you reap what you sow: how you act in this world has consequences either for your later life or your future lives, depending on your view of rebirth and trans…

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Julian the Apostate 50:14

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the last pagan ruler of the Roman Empire. Fifty years after Constantine the Great converted to Christianity and introduced a policy of tolerating the faith across the empire, Julian (c.331 - 363 AD) aimed to promote paganism instead, branding Constantine the worst of all his predecessors. Julian was a philosopher-emp…

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Episode Eight: On Context | Gilbert & George & Dr Nicholas Cullinan 28:04

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'Sex, death, race and religion' – these are the topics that the London-based artists Gilbert and George announced they wanted to cover in this talk with Dr Nicholas Cullinan of the National Portrait Gallery. On Context offers insights into the artist's relationship to concepts: from sculpture to the city, 'picture making' to posterity. Gilbert and …

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Episode Seven: On Interiors | Mandy El-Sayegh, Flavia Frigeri & Valerie Cassel Oliver 35:50

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The London home of Galerie Thaddeus Ropac is a traditional eighteenth-century Mayfair townhouse, once home to the Bishop of Ely. But for artist Mandy El-Sayegh's 2023 exhibition 'Interiors', its spaces were transformed into a riot of colour and pattern across paintings, textiles and furniture. In On Interiors, El-Sayegh talks to Dr Flavia Frigeri o…

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Episode Six: On Space | Rachel Whiteread & Briony Fer 35:45

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The year 1993 marked a watershed for the famous Turner Prize, when it was awarded for the first time to a woman. That artist was Rachel Whiteread and the work was House in East London. In On Space, Whiteread is in conversation with the art historian Briony Fer. Together, they discuss the urges and concerns that underpin Whiteread's work, from semin…

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Episode Five: On Power | Thomas J Price & Dr Gus Casely-Hayford 38:17

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In On Power, London-based multidisciplinary artist Thomas J Price is in conversation with Dr Gus Casely-Hayford, the inaugural Director of V&A East. Together, they reflect on how monuments created for the public realm are not just aesthetic objects but artefacts often bound up in values, ideologies and power systems. Price, in his words, wants to c…

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Karl Barth 55:22

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss one of the most influential theologians of the twentieth century. Karl Barth (1886 - 1968) rejected the liberal theology of his time which, he argued, used the Bible and religion to help humans understand themselves rather than prepare them to open themselves to divine revelation. Barth's aim was to put God and espec…

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Episode Four: On Studios | Arlene Shechet & Sheena Wagstaff 28:29

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In 2023, Frieze Masters fair sought to break the artist's studio open to a new audience with a new section, Studio, curated by Sheena Wagstaff – the former Chairman of the Department of Modern and Contemporary Art at the Met and now Met's Chair Emerita. In On Studios, Wagstaff talks with one of the Studio artists, Arlene Shechet, exploring how cent…

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Episode Three: On Photography | Tim Walker & Jerry Stafford 48:00

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On Photography asks what it means today for an artist to work with a living, breathing icon, like the actress Tilda Swinton. Tim Walker, the noted artist and photographer, is joined by his long-time collaborator, stylist Jerry Stafford, to talk about their work together with Tilda Swinton. Dr Nicholas Cullinan, Director of the National Portrait Gal…

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Episode Two: On Display | Shirin Neshat, Jamie Fobert, Dr Nicholas Cullinan 33:56

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In On Display, artist Shirin Neshat is in conversation with Jamie Fobert, the architect of London's newly reopened National Portrait Gallery, and its Director, Dr Nicholas Cullinan, moderated by Tim Marlow, Director of the Design Museum. Neshat reflects on her 2018 portrait of Nobel Peace Prize awardee Malala Yousafzai that was commissioned by the …

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Episode One: On Rebellion | Maggi Hambling & Sarah Lucas 34:22

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In 2005, British artists Maggi Hambling and Sarah Lucas met at the historic Colony Room Club in London's Soho. There, they discovered that they shared the same irreverent and unapologetic attitude – and even the same birthday. In On Rebellion, chaired by Louisa Buck, these two British artists discuss their influences, their reactions to rules and e…

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Julian of Norwich 50:01

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the anchoress and mystic who, in the late fourteenth century, wrote about her visions of Christ suffering, in a work since known as Revelations of Divine Love. She is probably the first named woman writer in English, even if questions about her name and life remain open. Her account is an exploration of the meaning o…

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The Dead Sea Scrolls 48:07

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the revelatory collection of Biblical texts, legal documents, community rules and literary writings. In 1946 a Bedouin shepherd boy was looking for a goat he’d lost in the hills above the Dead Sea. He threw a rock into a cave and heard a hollow sound. He’d hit a ceramic jar containing an ancient manuscript. This was …

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The Ramayana 49:35

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the Ramayana, the ancient Hindu epic which is regarded as one of the greatest works of world literature. Its importance in Indian culture has been compared to that of the Iliad and Odyssey in the West, and it’s still seen as a sacred text by Hindus today. Written in Sanskrit, it tells the story of the legendary princ…

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John Donne 51:47

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss Donne (1573-1631), known now as one of England’s finest poets of love and notable in his own time as an astonishing preacher. He was born a Catholic in a Protestant country and, when he married Anne More without her father's knowledge, Donne lost his job in the government circle and fell into a poverty that only ende…

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Anthea Hamilton & Nicholas Cullinan 51:40

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Frieze Masters presents this conversation with Anthea Hamilton & Nicholas Cullinan in partnership with Studio Voltaire @studiovoltairelondon. Their conversation explores the trajectory of Hamilton's work, the geopolitical basis of her identity as a 'Londoner' and how elements from the 'fourth dimension' shape her work. "We're actually functioning i…

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Love Lucian: The letters and early life of Lucian Freud 58:02

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Frieze Masters presents Love Lucian: The Letters and Early Life of Lucian Freud in partnership with the Freud Museum (@freudmuseum) . This episode features Hannah Rothschild in conversation with Martin Gayford and David Dawson, speaking on their new publication and the first exhibition of Lucian Freud's works at the Freud Museum London. Exploring t…

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Kamala Ibrahim Ishag & Hans Ulrich Obrist 1:03:36

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Frieze Masters presents this conversation with Kamala Ibrahim Ishag and Hans Ulrich Obrist in partnership with the Serpentine (@serpentineuk). To celebrate the opening of her solo exhibition at Serpentine, Ishag returns to the RCA where she studied in the 1960s. She discusses her background, her relationship with nature and the influence of the Sud…

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Doron Langberg & Nicholas Cullinan 41:22

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Frieze Masters presents this conversation with Doron Langberg & Nicholas Cullinan, Director of the National Portrait Gallery in London. Their conversation explores various aspects of Langberg's work including his portraiture in the context of the resurrection of figurative painting, and the influence of his educational background. "Painting really …

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Zadie Xa & Vivien Zhang 51:55

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Frieze Masters presents this conversation with Zadie Xa & Vivien Zhang in partnership with Whitechapel Gallery (@whitechapelgallery). Their conversation explores Xa's new exhibition at Whitechapel as they reflect on ideas of cultural identity, the appropriation and gentrification of symbols, and disparities between static and performance art. "[The…

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Andra Ursuţa & Jeremy Deller 45:08

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Frieze Masters presents this conversation with Andra Ursuţa & Jeremy Deller in partnership with David Zwirner Gallery (@davidzwirner). Their conversation explores Ursuţa's new exhibition at David Zwirner as well as her inclination towards using clichés and the 'lowest' regarded forms of artistry, her embrace of spirituality and the influence of the…

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Amy Sherald, Ekow Eshun & Jenni Sorkin 52:06

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Frieze Masters presents this conversation with Amy Sherald, Ekow Eshun and Jenni Sorkin in partnership with Hauser & Wirth (@hauserwirth). The panelists discuss Sherald's practice and the relevance of her work within the canon of historical portraiture. This episode also marks the release of the artist's first substantial monograph by Hauser & Wirt…

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Tyler Mitchell & Zoé Whitley 55:30

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Frieze Masters presents this conversation with Tyler Mitchell & Zoé Whitley in partnership with Gagosian (@gagosian). Their conversation explores Mitchell's new exhibition, Chrysalis, at Gagosian, and a special commission for this year's edition of Frieze Masters that reflects on his conceptual and editorial photography practices. His work is roote…

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Angkor Wat 49:18

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the largest and arguably the most astonishing religious structure on Earth, built for Suryavarman II in the 12th Century in modern-day Cambodia. It is said to have more stone in it than the Great Pyramid of Giza, and much of the surface is intricately carved and remarkably well preserved. For the last 900 years Angko…

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Comenius 56:32

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the Czech educator Jan Amos Komenský (1592-1670) known throughout Europe in his lifetime under the Latin version of his name, Comenius. A Protestant and member of the Unity of Brethren, he lived much of his life in exile, expelled from his homeland under the Catholic Counter-Reformation, and he wanted to address the …

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Early Christian Martyrdom 53:03

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the accounts by Eusebius of Caesarea (c260-339 AD) and others of the killings of Christians in the first three centuries after the crucifixion of Jesus. Eusebius was writing in a time of peace, after The Great Persecution that had started with Emperor Diocletian in 303 AD and lasted around eight years. Many died unde…

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The Sistine Chapel 55:50

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the astonishing work of Michelangelo (1477-1564) in this great chapel in the Vatican, firstly the ceiling with images from Genesis (of which the image above is a detail) and later The Last Judgement on the altar wall. For the Papacy, Michelangelo's achievement was a bold affirmation of the spiritual and political sta…

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Arianism 50:06

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the form of Christianity adopted by Ostrogoths in the 4th century AD, which they learned from Roman missionaries and from their own contact with the imperial court at Constantinople. This form spread to the Vandals and the Visigoths, who took it into Roman Spain and North Africa, and the Ostrogoths brought it deeper …

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Medieval Pilgrimage 50:43

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the idea and experience of Christian pilgrimage in Europe from the 12th to the 15th centuries, which figured so strongly in the imagination of the age. For those able and willing to travel, there were countless destinations from Jerusalem, Rome and Santiago de Compostela to the smaller local shrines associated with m…

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Saint Cuthbert 56:05

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the Northumbrian man who, for 500 years, was the pre-eminent English saint, to be matched only by Thomas Becket after his martyrdom in 1170. Now at Durham, Cuthbert was buried first on Lindisfarne in 687AD, where monks shared vivid stories of his sanctifying miracles, his healing, and his power over nature, and his f…

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John Wesley and Methodism 51:32

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss John Wesley (1703 - 1791) and the movement he was to lead and inspire. As a student, he was mocked for approaching religion too methodically and this jibe gave a name to the movement: Methodism. Wesley took his ideas out across Britain wherever there was an appetite for Christian revival, preaching in the open, espec…

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Deism 48:17

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the idea that God created the universe and then left it for humans to understand by reason not revelation. Edward Herbert, 1583-1648 (pictured above) held that there were five religious truths: belief in a Supreme Being, the need to worship him, the pursuit of a virtuous life as the best form of worship, repentance, …

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Walt Interviews Ming Shelby – Courage Up! 1:00:00

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Do you know how to have difficult conversations in order to advocate for yourself in all aspects of your life? Do you want to learn how? Ming Shelby has dedicated her career to inspiring students, teachers, and administrators through positive learning experiences. She believes that courage is the most critical ingredient for personal transformation…

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Walt Interviews Sandi Small – Divided by a Common Language 1:00:00

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George Bernard Shaw said, “The United States and Great Britain are two countries separated by a common language.” Sandi Small is an accent coach. She trains American actors to British up their accent and their role. Sandi noticed that American actors were confused about the numerous British accents and many coaches are too generic in accent trainin…

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Walt Interviews Michael Schirtzer – Don’t Wait For Things To Happen 1:00:00

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If you want anything in life, don’t wait for it to come to you. Go and make things happen. If you can lift others in the process, your chances of success increase even more. Michael Schirtzer is a standup comedian and slam poet born in New York and raised in Los Angeles. Since starting in the backroom of a comedy club in 2014, he and his writing ha…