Every week the team at Mumbrella cover the latest news in the Australian media, marketing and advertising industries along with interviews with key people in the industry. Featuring a rotating panel of hosts from the Mumbrella team, this podcast is essential listening for anyone working under Australia's media and marketing umbrella.
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Named after our seminar room, The Virtual Jewel Box hosts conversations at the Obert C. and Grace A. Tanner Humanities Center at the University of Utah. We share research, commentary, interviews, dialogue, and storytelling from across humanities disciplines. Views expressed on The Virtual Jewel Box do not represent the official views of the Center or University.
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Ever wondered how Schrödinger’s cat could lowkey boost your decision-making, or if Kant’s vibes could actually level up your life? We break down all the what, how, and why questions school totally skipped. From mind-blowing science and philosophy to everyday hacks, we make knowledge simple, useful, and 100% practical. Science is sciencing, and our AI hosts are here with facts — no opinions, no script just the real deal based on the articles and books. In 10-minute bites, we make the complex ...
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Tuning your ear to conceptual music, with Craig Dworkin and Scott Black
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38:51In this episode, Scott Black talks with poet and critic Craig Dworkin about his new book, The Sound of Thinking: A Listener’s Companion to Conceptual Music (University of Chicago Press), on music made from rules, systems, and procedures rather than personal expression. They explore pieces like György Ligeti’s 100 metronomes, Steve Reich’s swinging-…
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Commercial radio unites, Nielsen lawsuits, and reality TV ratings
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25:3219 November 2025 This week, radio industry body CRA launched its unified audio ID for buying and selling ad inventory across podcasts and radio. We also discuss the fallout between Nielsen and its long-time leader in this part of the world, Monique Perry, who has been sacked and is now suing the analytics company for unfair dismissal. Elsewhere, we…
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17 November 2025 In this special episode of the Mumbrellacast, Tim Burrowes sits down with Commercial Radio & Audio (CRA) boss, Lizzie Young, to discuss CRA's Audio ID launch, expensive legal battle with the music industry, and more.By Mumbrella
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ARN issues a stark warning, Nine redundancies, and activist rocks M+C Saatchi
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20:4712 November 2025 It's Wednesday evening, which means it's time to pour yourself a glass of warm popcorn, fire up your wireless, and settle into another episode of the Mumbrellacast. After splashing out an estimated $1.5 million on its first-ever upfront presentation late last month to tout the future of its 'entertainment' company, this morning ARN…
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Paramount Australia execs spill the beans about 2026 plans
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28:39In this special episode of the Mumbrellacast, Tim Burrowes sits down with Paramount Australia's Beverley McGarvey, Rod Prossor, and Tamara Simoneau to talk about the network's future plans under a new owner, the death of Think TV, Rebecca Gibney's game show mode - and whether they'll punt for the NRL.…
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The $300m Australian content law; Woolies pre-loved Xmas campaign; and SCA and Seven green light upsets investor
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23:26In this week's Mumbrellacast, Hal Crawford, Tim Burrowes, Nathan Jolly, Eleanor Dickinson and Abe Udy dig into the new legislation that will require streaming services, such as Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime, dedicate 10% of their total local expenditure to Australian content. You can get up to speed with the proposed law here. Isn't it great: A…
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Translating Homer’s Odyssey, with Daniel Mendelsohn and Jordan Jonansen
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20:02Daniel Mendelsohn discusses his new translation of Homer’s Odyssey (University of Chicago Press) with Jordan Johansen, Assistant Professor of Classics in the Department of World Languages and Literatures at the University of Utah. They discuss the musicality of translating Homer’s poetry for the human voice, the discovery of sarcastic swineherd per…
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ARN delivers the goods at latest upfront, and a News Corp insider opens up
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36:3129 October 2025 In this week's Mumbrellacast, Hal Crawford, Tim Burrowes and Nathan Jolly discuss ARN's packed upfront. Having taken over the Star Casino in Sydney, the radio network announced a slew of new content. Check out Nathan's breakdown here. Yesterday, leaders of the Australian publishing industry gathered for Mumbrella's Publish conferenc…
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Seven's upfront, a new web browser and our new paywall
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26:1522 October 2025 In this week's Mumbrellacast, Hal Crawford, Tim Burrowes, Nathan Jolly and Abe Udy discuss Mumbrella's widespread changes as part of a larger project to bring Mumbrella and Unmade content together on the one platform. We also look at Seven West Media's upfront event in Sydney, which features the launch of a partnership with Westpac …
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Writing and Memory, with Jesmyn Ward and Kase Johnstun
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25:20Award-winning author Jesmyn Ward speaks with Kase Johnstun of Utah Humanities about the craft of writing, resilience, and historical memory, in anticipation of her 2025 David P. Gardner Graduate Lecture in the Humanities and Fine Arts. Ward’s lecture is hosted by the Tanner Humanities Center and the Salt Lake City Public Library, and is part of the…
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Live from SXSW, reactions to Nine's latest Upfront, Vinyl's AI-powered content plan, and Dentsu can't catch a break
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38:3217 October 2025 In this very special episode of the Mumbrellacast, the show has moved from its headquarters in Glebe to the sunny halls of SXSW Sydney. Last night, it was Nine's turn to wow advertisers and agencies with its 2025 Upfront. The broadcaster's played it safe, continually reassuring the crowd that it has everything they need to market th…
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Roy Morgan CEO responds to Mark Ritson, News Corp on "the big steal" and Spotify's unorthodox offering
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30:308 October 2025 Last week, marketing luminary Mark Ritson published an article for Mumbrella about Qantas, arguing that the airline's low trust scores haven't done anything to hurt it financially. In the same piece, Ritson poked the Roy Morgan bear, saying that the research organisation's views on brand trust need "to be taken with a massive dose of…
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‘The merger’ – SCA/SWM dissected, ex-Edelman CCO weighs in on redundancy crisis, and ChatGPT’s major move
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34:502 October 2025 Southern Cross Austereo and Seven West Media’s proposed merger is fascinating: a power move or alliance between two disrupted businesses? We go over the merger’s details to determine which company’s culture — TV or radio — will dominate. Last week, Mumbrella ran a story on the redundancy crisis that has struck the marketing and media…
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Humanities perspectives on AI, with Lizzie Callaway and Rebekah Cummings
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35:42The leaders of the University of Utah summer institute Humanities Perspectives on Artificial Intelligence, Elizabeth Callaway and Rebekah Cummings, join Scott Black to discuss the human limitations of AI, as well as the points of contact between AI and the humanities. Links: Marriott Library, The ARPANET Project Brigham Young University, Office Dig…
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Remade revelations, the Murdoch Tiktok deal, and unpicking Optus' latest PR nightmare
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24:2324 September 2025 This week: Yesterday's Remade event put retail media under the microscope. In separate sessions, Zitcha's Alberto Vergara shared his theory that impulse buying is going to be destroyed by AI agents, and Jonathan Hopkins of Sonder and Commbank's Patrick Crowley dove deep into Commbank's journey of building its own retail media netw…
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Mat Baxter's tattoo skincare venture, inside Mumbrella360 2026, and marketing death successfully
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23:2118 September 2025 Expert marketer Mat Baxter rolled out a tattoo luxury skincare line, Skingraphica, after finding that popular cosmetic brands didn't supply products specifically for tattoo skincare. He spoke with Hal about the new venture, and revealed the unorthodox marketing practices he's going to deploy for it. Meanwhile, Mumbrella360 2026 ha…
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Youtube going strong at 20, Mamamia starts its engines for new era, and Mango Comms Sydney is no more
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24:2511 September 2025 Youtube marked its 20th birthday by gathering 600 industry personnel in Sydney and dazzling them with its own version of a TV upfront. The video streaming platform shared its latest products with the crowd, and Hal was there to see if it was all worth it. The latest radio ratings are in, and Nine Radio climbed back in Melbourne. K…
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276: Scaling Wireless World to Regional Domination | Vince Lubben’s Midwest Empire
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50:46Vince Lubben is the Co-Owner of Wireless World. Vince began working in the wireless sector as a sales executive for CommNet Cellular, when the cell phone industry was young. He saw an opportunity to start his own business and opened his first store in Vermillion, South Dakota in 1999. Today, there are 54 Wireless World outlets and the company has 3…
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The TV industry's Canberra invasion, upfronts season is here, and Vinyl Media shaves off the top
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24:024 September 2025 The bosses of the Australian TV industry flooded Canberra this week to lobby the government for tax relief and to put an end to gambling ad restrictions. Tim was there too, and he's here to share all the details of the event - and the conversations he had with the industry's most powerful people. Upfronts season has finally arrived…
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Nine posts big numbers, ARN vs SCA financial results, and AANA responds to health concerns
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23:1328 August 2025 Nine's finances for FY2025 were released this morning, and the combined weight of the Olympics, Stan and Domain helped the media organisation stay upright. But should Nine be celebrating? Meanwhile, rivals ARN and SCA have released their own financial results, while rumours of Nine being interested in buying SCA continue. Nathan is h…
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The humanities and public life, with Jodi Graham and Scott Black
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26:47What are the humanities, and how do they function in our daily lives? It might be that they’re primarily academic disciplines studied in universities and cultural institutions. Or some say they're the everyday conversations and reflections that make us fully human—like discussing a movie with friends or questioning our assumptions. In this episode,…
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Inside Hardie Grant's Keep Left acquisition, OOH's big week, and ex-Paramount owner talks Skydance and Trump
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25:24Media and publishing group Hardie Grant has made a major investment in the communications space, acquiring PR agency Keep Left. We discuss if Hardie Grant made the right move, and what prompted Keep Left to sell after 23 years. The country's sole independent newswire, Australian Associated Press, has struck a deal with Google to feed its news into …
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'I put all my skin in the game': Ebiquity CEO Ruben Schreurs opens up to Mumbrella
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52:44Global performance consultancy Ebiquity oversees US$160 billion of advertising spend for the majority of the world's top brands. CEO Ruben Schreurs sat down with Mumbrella's Hal Crawford for a wide-ranging interview that ran the gamut from agency disruption, to advertiser news avoidance, Elon Musk, outdoor, the rise of Publicis and a personal attac…
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Is James Taylor the man for the job at Ooh Media?
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26:04SBS has announced that its managing director, James Taylor, is gearing up to leave the broadcaster after 13 years to become the boss at Ooh Media. But is it the right move for both the outdoor company and the long-time media leader? And who should replace him? At the same time, Seven released its full-year financial results, and the numbers are sob…
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Dentsu ANZ's leadership bombshell, News Corp's full-year financials, and the great copyright debate
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27:136 August 2025 Dentsu ANZ dropped a bomb this morning, revealing that its CEO Patricio De Matteis is leaving the business with the company's New Zealand boss, Rob Harvey, stepping in as his replacement. We discuss what this means for the holdco. News Corp released its full-year financials, and despite declining revenue for its Australian operations,…
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Google's legal threats, Solstice Media's latest acquisition, and the media industry's season of change
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24:3230th July 2025 Over the weekend, Google ramped up the under-16s social media ban fight by sending at letter to the Australian government with legal claims for exemption (which it has just officially lost). We analyse Google's arguments to see if the tech juggernaut has a case or if it's shouting at a wall. Hal interviews executive director of media…
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275: From the Battlefield to the CBD Boardroom: Craig Henderson of Extract Labs
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1:12:40Craig Henderson is the CEO of Extract Labs, a Boulder, Colorado-based full-service hemp extraction laboratory offering a proprietary line of boutique CBD-infused products. Craig started the company in his garage in 2016. This Episode is Sponsored By: Jon Ostenson, Founder of FranBridge Consulting and Top 1% US Franchise Consultant is here to help y…
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Authenticity work, with Kate Bowler and Gretchen Case
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27:16Kate Bowler joins Gretchen Case to discuss authenticity in academic, spiritual, and medical life; the limits of toxic positivity; and how joy can be both a surprise and a discipline. Reflecting on her own experience, Bowler examines what it means to seek truth and integrity within imperfect systems and bodies. Kate Bowler is Associate Professor of …
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Omnicom's Oceania restructure, FM trumps AM in Melbourne, and Nine's upcoming payday
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26:4423 July 2025 The restructure of Omnicom's Oceania operations has dominated the trade press this week, particularly with the confirmation that Nick Garrett will be returning to lead the new organisation. Is Omnicom just aligning with the rest of the industry or is there something different afoot here? Meanwhile, Nathan spoke with ARN's chief audienc…
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Race, Religion, and Slavery in Antebellum Utah - Paul Reeve and Jordan Watkins
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48:17Historians Paul Reeve and Jordan Watkins discuss This Abominable Slavery: Race, Religion, and the Battle over Human Bondage in Antebellum Utah (by Reeve, Christopher B. Rich, Jr., and LaJean Purcell Carruth), published by Oxford University Press in 2024. Their discussion explores the origins and transcription of primary sources integral to the book…
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SCA's content head departs, Telstra leans into the hate, and Linkby co-founder on today's publishing industry
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23:0716 July 2025 Southern Cross Austereo's chief content officer, Dave Cameron, is leaving the business after three decades, and with the network recently selling its regional TV licence and doubling down on an 'all about audio' ethos, it's made us wonder: Did he jump or was he shown the door? This week has also seen the publication of independent stud…
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Healthcare to receive the Mat Baxter treatment
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1:05:4114 July 2025 During the Covid pandemic, a serious accident left Naked Communications Australia co-founder Mat Baxter with serious injuries, forcing the agencyland leader into 12 weeks of recuperation — while trying to fill his role of chief executive officer at global consultancy Huge in New York. But the tragedy became a cornerstone moment for Bax…
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Commbank goes big with new campaign, media mushroom sins, and Mat Baxter's take on agencyland
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27:209 July 2025 The Commonwealth Bank has the industry and consumers talking about its latest ad campaign. But it's not just the 90-second whirlwind of a TVC featuring cars, several Matildas, and even a biplane that has captured people's attention — it's the 'Australian first' media strategy leveraging a 48-hour roadblock across BVOD. We break down the…
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Junk food ad ban, publishers unite against AI bots, and Tim's Madfest adventure
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27:552 July 2025 As of yesterday, the South Australian government has banned junk food advertising on its own properties, a move that advertising bodies are none too happy about. Lauren breaks the situation down — and reveals the South Australian government's sharp jab back at advertisers. Meanwhile, Cloudflare, an internet backend provider, is moving t…
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Antoinette Lattouf wins, the eSafety commissioner's swing at Youtube, and Google riles small publishers
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25:2025 June 2025 After months of battling the ABC in court on the grounds that she was unfairly dismissed from her radio gig over her views on Israel and Gaza, the Federal Court ruled in favour of journalist Antoinette Lattouf. What did the judge say and what does the verdict mean for the ABC? Overseas in the United States, the FTC officially approved …
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Aesthetic experience, with Bryan Counter and Nathan Wainstein
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47:50This episode features Bryan Counter (Framingham State University) discussing his new book Four Moments of Aesthetic Experience: Reading Huysmans, Proust, McCarthy, and Cusk (published by Anthem Press) with Nathan Wainstein (Department of English, University of Utah). Counter theorizes aesthetic experience as something that mediates between subjecti…
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In this special interview edition of the Mumbrellacast, Hal Crawford speaks with VP of Hubspot Media Jonathan Hunt about ways of finding an audience in a world that has become a lot tougher for content creators. Hunt covers Linkedin's recent push for video and how it has created an opportunity, Reddit as a traffic source, and an AI workflow that ca…
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Aussies win big at Cannes, the trouble at Clems, and are women avoiding news?
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26:4118 June 2025 Telstra and creative agency Bear Meets Eagle On Fire won the Film Craft Grand Prix at the 2025 Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity. It's one of the most prestigious awards in adland — Lauren breaks down the win and shares an update on other awards the Australian industry has secured. Clemenger Group's changing of the guar…
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274: The Cable Cowboy Who Went from Broke to Broadband 🤠 | Terry Koosed of Bel Air Internet
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2:16:14Terry Koosed is the Founder of Bel Air Internet, a Los Angeles based Internet Service Provider, and a leading authority on successful entrepreneurship. He has founded and successfully run seven companies in the high-tech industry during the past 40 years, sometimes concurrently, and is what some would call, a serial entrepreneur. Listen to Part II,…
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Former Fairfax CEO and Free TV Chair Greg Hywood has moved out of the media world for the first time in 50 years. Mumbrella editorial director Hal Crawford talks with Hywood at length in this interview edition of the Mumbrellacast, covering Hywood's career, the nature of journalism and journalists - and, intriguingly, his view on whether the Nine F…
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Abolitionist, Saint, Queen: Balthild of Francia - Isabel Moreira and Scott Black
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30:31 A slave becomes Queen and later is sainted for her work as an abolitionist. A new book by Isabel Moreira (Distinguished Professor of History, University of Utah) explores not only the life of Balthild of Francia (c. 633-80), but also the methods of late-medieval historical research. Professor Moreira discusses Balthild of Francia: Anglo-Saxon Slav…
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The Project and Q+A get the boot; Challenges women face in media; and Greg Hywood's thoughts on Nine
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28:3511 June 2025 Two long-running television shows, ABC's Q+A and Ten's The Project, have officially been axed at their respective networks. Q+A is being replaced by documentaries, while The Project is being replaced by an investigative news and current affairs program. We discuss what these major changes mean for Australian TV. Meanwhile, a new Women …
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Adland’s revolving door; Clive Dickens’ new business venture; and Mamamia’s new video strategy
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21:424 June 2025 Last week, iconic Australian adland figure David Droga announced he would be stepping down from Accenture Song. Since then, M+C Saatchi’s APAC CEO, Justin Graham, and Dentsu Creative ANZ’s chief creative officer, Ben Coulson, also revealed they were moving on. They’re just a few among the many major talent movements in the industry — we…
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Mumbrellacast goes live: Linkedin, highly paid talent, and where it all began for Burrowes
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37:1529 May 2025 Recorded live on stage at Mumbrella360, this special episode of the Mumbrellacast sees the worlds of Unmade and Mumbrella collide. Over the past two weeks, we've been hearing from multiple sources that Linkedin is becoming increasingly relevant for marketers. We discuss if the platform's moment is just a fad or the start of a new age of…
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Freedom, kindness, and beauty: The legacy of Obert C. Tanner - Mark Matheson and Scott Black
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31:58This episode explores Obert C. Tanner’s life and legacy, which includes the Obert C. and Grace A. Tanner Humanities Center and the Tanner Lectures on Human Values. Mark Matheson, Lecturer in English at the University of Utah and Director of the Tanner Lectures on Human Values, discusses Obert’s remarkable journey from poverty to philanthropy, inclu…
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ABC, SBS and the gender pay gaps data; inside outdoor media; marketers and Google’s AI Mode; Resolution Digital’s new chapter
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22:3621 May 2025 For the first time ever, the Workplace Gender Equality Agency has released the gender pay gaps of companies in the Commonwealth public sector — and that includes broadcasters ABC and SBS. We unpack the data to see who’s winning and who needs to catch up. Last week, Hal interviewed Ooh Media’s chief revenue officer, Mark Fairhurst, who t…
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Mistrusting the news, with Jake Nelson and Robert Carson
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52:21Under what conditions do people trust the news, if at all? How did Covid lockdown change news consumption? What are we to think of journalists who leave establishment news organizations and build their own following on platforms like Substack? And does our mistrust of news organizations mirror mistrust of other professional sectors, like health car…
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News Corp, AI and Donald Trump; Anika Wells; and the OMA's party without a purpose
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22:0114 May 2025 The Outdoor Media Association held a conference in Sydney last week, where it revealed that its new metrics suite, Move, is launching… at some point. It has been years in the making, so why the delay? Robert Thomson, CEO of News Corp, issued a stark warning to US President Donald Trump that AI companies are stealing content, such as his…
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Are Media CEO on US deal; SCA finally exits TV; Netflix's Aussie earnings; will AI take jobs?
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19:487 May 2025 This morning, Are Media announced a deal that it would sell ads for US publisher Dotdash Meredith in the Australian market. Hal had a rare chat with Are Media's CEO Jane Huxley who claims the sun has come out. Meanwhile, Southern Cross Austereo (SCA) is officially selling its remaining regional TV licences to Seven West Media — and not A…
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273: Publishing to EdTech: The Unlikely Road to Evolution Labs with Founder Peter Kraft
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1:26:53Peter Kraft is the Founder and President of Evolution Labs. Prior to founding Evolution Labs, Kraft was instrumental in forming and re-envisioning two educational software companies that led the industry in recruitment, enrollment and retention of college students. He co-founded GoalQuest in 2000 and served as its CEO until 2007 when he spearheaded…
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