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Feminine Chaos

Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat Rosenfield

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Problematic faves, dissident feminism, and poodle interruptions: this is Feminine Chaos, featuring cultural commentary from Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat Rosenfield. femchaospod.substack.com
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the pressure to be part of a clique, the (over?) valuation of female friendship, Phoebe’s thesis on heteronormativity, and Kat’s theory of the naturally-occurring eccentrics who just vant to be alohn. LINKS: SPECIAL HOLIDAY PROMOTION: Preor…
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Early access for premium subscribers! Kat and Phoebe discuss modern love, traditional marriage, and the New York Times “gray divorcée” who is the latest main character in the discourse. LINKS: The original offense: Opinion | It’s OK That Our Long, Mostly Good Marriage Ended - The New York Times The origin story: His and Her Books Tattle on Marriage…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com In a special post-Thanksgiving dispatch, Kat and Phoebe discuss dead squirrel drama, stupid murderers, dine-and-dash influencers who might be robots, and the seasonal affliction known as Labubu Buyer’s Remorse. LINKS: Irresistible Deals Put Them in Debt. Now They…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat tells a story about stalking a businessman in a London suburb; Phoebe tells the origin story of the shirtless men on her book jacket. Then: a discussion on the latest in male cancellations, and, by popular demand, the Olivia Nuzzi book excerpt and surrounding…
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Early access for paid subscribers! Kat and Phoebe discuss female testosterone junkies and an essay about feminization that broke the internet. LINKS: Susan Dominus’s incredible article about women doing the T for non-trans reasons: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/22/magazine/testosterone-women-health-sex-libido-menopause.html Phoebe’s got a long be…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Phoebe debuts a sexy new limited-edition podcast voice (available only while seasonal respiratory virus lasts)! Then: new developments in last week’s spon-con meltdown, and some extremely sour grapes over the continued survival of cancelled men at cancelled magaz…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe break their previously RIGID rule against oversharing about their romantic histories to reveal which male celebrities once looked at them with maybe lust, or maybe a potent mix of disgust and curiosity, who knows. Then: the cancellation-in-progress…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the fallout from the acquisition of the Free Press, including an epidemic of Bari Weiss derangement syndrome and Kat’s betrothal to the reanimated corpse of Dan Rather Walter Cronkite. (Sorry, Dan!) Then: a great new novel, the plight of th…
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The beloved Danielle Strachman, co-founder of the Thiel Fellowship and founder of 1517 Fund, joins The Hope Axis to discuss why hope is taboo in modern discourse, the power of positive naiveté in young founders, why community building requires faith over metrics, and how younger and younger people are reaching the frontiers of knowledge faster than…
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Kat and Phoebe are joined by special guest Katie Herzog to discuss sobriety narratives, publishing journeys, and Katie’s new book, which you should all buy immediately. LINKS: Order Katie’s book here! No, seriously, did you order yet? Fresh, hot, FULLY NUDE self help right here, y’all. Read an excerpt from Katie’s book at The Free Press: Also menti…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the latest in attempted cancellations, the French first lady’s war on lying podcasters, and what fraction of the female population are Samanthas. LINKS: Kat’s new wilderness murder thriller is available for pre-order here! Required viewing!…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss free speech, government interference, sociopathic clout-chasing, personal memoir, and accidental death-by-self-induced-whiplash. LINKS: Woody Allen on Life and Death - by Bari Weiss You can take the girl out of What is jawboning? And does i…
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My friend Roy Bahat joins The Hope Axis for a fun and sharp conversation about hope for the future of talent, timeless ideas vs hypes, resilience and outliers, why becoming an institution > running after trends, building family oriented technology, excellence and autocracy and much more. Hope you enjoy! You can read the transcript of our conversati…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe try to figure out what a Labubu is. Then: herbicidal maniacs, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the death of all hope (but only for a moment.) LINKS: Whence Labubu Feminism: Did a Brooklyn Couple Kill a Neighbor’s Trees for a Better View in Ma…
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Kat shares some exciting professional news, followed by Phoebe’s latest dispatch from Dead Rodent Central aka Toronto proper. Then: what do we both think about the Lena Dunham zeitgeist and the new Netflix series Too Much? LINKS: See Kat’s new book cover in People magazine and preorder HOW TO SURVIVE IN THE WOODS! Also, Chicagoans can see Kat in re…
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The dearest Tyler Cowen joins The Hope Axis for a fun and wide ranging conversation. We talk about hope for insiders and outsiders, the competitive and the obsessed, immigrants and hard workers, talent and luck, why America is so special, whether Internet Utopia is over, GenZ and rebellion — and Jack Nicholson, John Stuart Mill, driving around East…
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The Times columnist James Marriott joins me to discuss the decline of reading comprehension, the risk-averse publishing industry, the addictive nature of digital media, a new Dark Age of literacy, and why ambitious young people should still pursue writing careers. Hope you enjoy! You can find the transcript of our conversation here. Important Links…
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The lovely Alice Gribbin joins me for a conversation about the mystery of inspiration, why intellectualizing art is a bad idea, the visceral encounter with the artwork, why the only realm where the gods are still active is art, US versus UK artists, our search for transcendence, and - as always - hope. Hope you enjoy! You can read the transcript of…
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The brilliant Kat Rosenfield joins me for a conversation about millennial women, victimhood narratives, the enduring appeal of rich husbands, why we're bad at aging gracefully, and much more. Hope you enjoy! You can read the transcript of our conversation here. Important Links: Kat’s X Profile Kat’s Substack Kat’s column for The Free Press Kat’s We…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss a certain comedienne's May-December relationship that was (or, possibly, wasn't), the forever war over Sydney Sweeney's genes, and whether anti-woke signaling as advertising strategy is a terrible mistake, or just a happy little accident. L…
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Kat and Phoebe welcome special guest Leigh Stein for a discussion of female heterosexual rejection, gothic age gap relationships, and crying on TikTok in the attention economy. LINKS: Leigh's new book, If You're Seeing This It's Meant for You, releases August 26! Order it here to get the bonus gift of cool limited-edition tarot card stickers: If Yo…
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The inimitable Sari Azout, founder of the new digital gardening platform Sublime, joins me for a wide-ranging discussion about ideas, digital minimalism, humane tech and building the future with care. Hope you enjoy! You can read the transcript of this conversation here. Important Links: Sublime’s Substack Sari on Sublime Sari on X Sari on LinkedIn…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the latest in "heterofatalism", how to write about heterosexuality without oversharing about your sex life, and the viral jumbotron sex scandal with shades of the 1990s-era L'Affaire Bobbitt. LINKS: She tried an open marriage: Scenes from a…
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The very great Erik Hoel joins me for a conversation on AI, free will, emergence, creativity, neuroscience, consciousness and much more. Hope you enjoy! For the full transcript of our conversation, click here. Important Links: The Intrinsic Perspective Erik on Twitter/X Show Notes: (0:00:00) Guest Introduction (0:05:12) Innovative Structures in Fic…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss a new memoir by a self-described nepo baby, the locker room norms that place modesty downstream of anatomy, and the scandalous college box-checking of one NYC mayoral candidate. LINKS: Phoebe's review: The art monster's daughter: Molly Jong…
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Early access for paid subscribers! Kat and Phoebe discuss lowkey "choice" lesbians, being a "kid" in your mid-20s (and beyond), and the various and sundry meanings of "virgin." LINKS: Lowkey, I Chose To Be a Lesbian | Autostraddle We Messed Up | Autostraddle So-called “ex-gay” causes controversy – Chicago Maroon This is a public episode. If you'd l…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss our alleged mass epidemic of missing, or at least absent, men, and the women who love them (except: do they, though?) Also: settling, compromise, and a debate over how to properly dispense with a contaminated toaster. LINKS: Men, Where Have…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the new film Materialists and marrying rich, the O.G. (and long-lived) Jewish sitcom The Goldbergs, the difference between Dakota Fanning and Dakota Johnson, whether “nepo baby” is a slur, and the eggshells upon which artists may or may not…
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Santiago Ramos of Wisdom of Crowds joins me to talk about hope in apocalyptic times. AI, public philosophy, journalism, the aesthetics of urgent honesty, the value of disagreement, dialectics leading one to religion, whether crowds really are wise... ENJOY! For the full transcript of our conversation, click here. Important Links: Wisdom of Crowds A…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss intimacy coordinators, rodent men, and the mechanism whereby certain left-wing things begat a certain orange man. LINKS: The Real Reason Actresses Are Rejecting Intimacy Coordinators The mechanism Are Liberals to Blame for the New McCarthyi…
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Early access for premium subscribers! Kat and Phoebe discuss a straight lady court victory, a puckish (and very symmetrical) student journalist, and a grotesque act of botanical sabotage. Links: Supreme Court Unanimously Rules for Straight Woman in Workplace Discrimination Suit Straight out of DOGE A Student at Brown Channeled Elon Musk. Then He Go…
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The very great Agnes Callard joins me to talk about her excellent new book Open Socrates: The Case for a Philosophical Life. Just two Hungarian girls discussing love and ethics, truth and ignorance, paradoxes and beliefs—and Kant, Aristotle, Mill, Nussbaum, William James—and of course Socrates. Hope you enjoy! For the full transcript of our convers…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the state of Anne Hathaway's eyebrows, the downsides of celebrity, the end of diet culture, and the MeTooing of a certain journalist. (Hashtag MeToo, hashtag BLM!) Links: The bad Anne Hathaway take, archived for your pleasure: https://archi…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss what's right about built-in bookshelves, what's wrong with water aerobics, what's for sale on OnlyFans, and the time one of us sent nudes by carrier pigeon. LINKS: The built-in bookshelf of Phoebe's dreams: (via: The Group Behind Project 20…
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Author, builder and friend — Rohit Krishan joins me in a wide ranging conversation about Indian and American culture. We discuss the Get Shit Done mentality of Indian entrepreneurs, predictions for the Indian diaspora, Rohit’s experiences with LLMs, and the surprising ways his children use AI. For the full transcript of our conversation, click here…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the Ozempification of the populace and the traumatic sleepovers of our respective youths. Also, raccoons. Links: I Speak From Experience When I Say: Weight-Loss Drugs Give Women Freedom. The Parental Safetyism Arms Race - Cartoons Hate Her…
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Kat and Phoebe discuss the Met Gala, one man's polarizing torso, and the legacy of the MeToo movement now that its chief villain is back on trial. Early access for premium subscribers. LINKS: The tweet that launched a thousand 'I prefer a dad bod' sentiments: https://x.com/CostelloWilliam/status/1914860472723005446 Cartoons Hate Her makes the case …
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss capsule wardrobes, online discourse degradation, natalist White House policies, and whether you can get pregnant from a toilet seat. LINKS: The elusive instagram post featuring a very expensive not-jumpsuit: Your capsule wardrobe stinks Whi…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss some personal news, some internet drama, some political blame-laying, and some promising signs (or are they?) that we are entering a Renaissance du Blog. LINKS: Kat's big book news: The Podcaster versus the Vice President: https://x.com/jes…
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The brilliant and always candid Haya Odeh - co-founder and design lead of Replit - and I talked about her company (and her husband and co-founder Amjad Masad), entrepreneurship, and hope — immigration, motherhood, resilience, being your best self, and the great power of not having a plan B.https://x.com/HayaOdehhttps://x.com/Replit…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss a list of Wirecutter recommendations with a surprise, um, ending. Then: the sexual politics of the new FX series Dying for Sex, which you should under no circumstances watch on an airplane. Links: We Believe in Buy-It-For-Life Products. Her…
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Early access for premium subscribers! Kat and Phoebe discuss the Ghiblification of deportation, political tone policing, and the evangelical lesbians who study heterosexual women like zoo animals. The Last Unicorn by Topstar a.k.a. Studio Ghibli before it was Ghibli: The White House jumps on the Ghibli meme train: https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/19…
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Max Meyer, founder and editor of Arena Magazine, and I sat down to talk about the Army and DOGE, Alex Karp and farming, Love Letters to America and Tocqueville, trust and publishing, fake news and social revolutions, academia and cities...And also the value of travelling around the US, the value of books, the value of people having a say in how the…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the cartoon avatars of the political resistance, the fall of 23andMe, the aesthetics of MAGA, and the 14 year-old pig wrangler whose icy stare stole our hearts and/or souls. LINKS: The original pseudoposter/realposter collab:…
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#satire #newsletters #DOGE #elonmusk #politics #liberalism #trolls #feminismThis was our 21st episode, and I celebrated its coming of drinking age by inviting my scandal hero mutual Richard Hanania. We talked about the art of satire (and a little trolling). Writing independently and without filter. Why Neoliberalism was, according to Richard, right…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss an incredibly Canadian neighborhood poop drama, the allure of bisexual men, and the free speech imbroglio surrounding the deportation of a Columbia student protester. Links: Ladies, is it gay to like men? The FP on the ICE arrest of a Colum…
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The great Kyla Scanlon, economics creator and author of the book 'In This Economy?' (and host of some great Interintellect salons and series) and I talked about polarisation and economic stressors, the 3 types of GenZ, and housing, hope, fertility, DOGE, social fragmentation, bad vibes, the White House — and more! Links:https://kylascanlon.com/ htt…
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the tragic denouement of a recent celebrity death, the spicy for-podcast-only outtakes from Phoebe's recent Globe & Mail column on woman-defining, and whether robots are coming for our jobs. LINKS: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/ar…
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