Best K9 Detection Collaborative Podcasts (2025)

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Talking Training with Petra Ford Pt. 2 54:22

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What to listen for: “I don’t just pet them, I go, ‘this is why you train the way you train, remember that’” Today, two-thirds of the Dames of Detection, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing, welcome back obedience trainer Petra Ford to talk about why she believes in a “you do you” approach to dog training. When her dog Zesty dropped eye contact during th…

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Episode #51 Ken Mathias "NC Malinois Trailblazer" Part 1. 52:51

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Send us a text I've known of the gentleman in this episode for over 30 years, but just actually met him face to face around 6 months ago. Ken is one of the pioneers as it relates to working k9's in the state of North Carolina. It is likely that he introduced the Malinois to police work in NC. The description below does not come close to describing …

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Talking Training with Petra Ford Pt. 1 1:01:18

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What to listen for: "I care about my dog's emotional state, how they're feeling, and how confident they are. And I work on that a lot." Two-thirds of the Dames of Detection, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing, sit down with obedience trainer Petra Ford, who unpacks the importance of seeing dogs as individuals, not assumptions! Real progress, she says, …

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MUTC 2025 Recap and Updates! 52:50

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What to listen for: “You’re putting so much pressure on yourself, and that’s impacting your dog.” Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing chat about what they’ve been up to lately, including their recent experience at the Muscatatuck Open, a high-level canine detection seminar known for its complex scent theory drills and im…

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Episode #50 Reflection and revisiting detection and tracking 43:55

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Send us a text No special guest for episode #50. We reflected on the previous 49 episodes and discussed changes that we have made to our detection and tracking. Some of these changes came from ideas from some of our guests. Some of these changes have proven to be very helpful with certain dogs, but the one constant is that they are not all the same…

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Detection Dog Science with Secret Service Chemist Dr. Katylynn Sloan Pt 2 45:14

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What to listen for: Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing return with the brilliant Katylynn Sloan for part two of their conversation on the intersection between chemistry and K9 detection! “Train with as much variety as often as you can, in the weirdest of circumstances you can possibly get to, with as many groups and as many people as you can.” Katylynn…

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Detection Dog Science with Secret Service Chemist Dr. Katylynn Sloan Pt 1 1:03:18

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What to listen for: “The dogs are so good at what they do, it’s brain-boggling.” Today, 2/3 of our hosts, Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing, welcome Katylynn Sloan, a chemist with the U.S. Secret Service, to explore the eye-opening intersection of science and canine detection work. With a PhD in chemistry and years in explosives research, Katylynn bri…

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Episode #49 Tony Pallotta "A persons ability to learn is based on your ability to teach" 1:29:27

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Send us a text We truly enjoyed interviewing Tony. There will likely be a second episode. After listening to this one we know you'll see why we need to have him on again. Lots of subjects were covered in a slightly longer episode than normal. Tony Pallotta started training dogs in 1993, with over 25 years of experience thus far, his knowledge and e…

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Critical Thinking in Dog Training 57:48

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What to listen for: "To truly understand your dog, embrace the power of observation, question the environment, and engage with the nuances of their behavior." Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Crystal Wing, and Stacy Barnett, take a deep dive into the role of critical thinking for handlers. We’ve all been there—reading a viral dog training post and feeling…

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Consistency in Dog Training Pt 3: Why is it So Hard? 54:35

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What to listen for: In the third part of the series on consistency, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing dive deeper into what makes consistency such a challenge—and how to truly make it work in real life. Staying consistent isn’t just about following a routine. It’s about self-awareness, emotion management, and breaking behavio…

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Episode #48 Bill Gaskins Integrity Noseworx 1:15:24

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Send us a text We have been truly blessed to have had some really great guests. We feel confident that you will enjoy our conversation with Bill Gaskins. Such a humble, knowledgable, gentleman with an impressive resume. Bill Gaskins US Air Force Retired (21 Years) Law enforcement specialist/ Military Working Dog (MWD) Handler of 10 dogs MWD Trainer…

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Consistency in Dog Training Pt 2: Mechanics and Reinforcement 55:46

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What to listen for: In the second part of the series on consistency, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing take a closer look at the mechanics of consistency, from creating intentional setup signals to reinforcing behaviors for longevity! You’ve probably heard about marker timing and reinforcement. Today, our hosts take a fresh l…

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Consistency in Dog Training Pt 1 1:00:01

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What to listen for: “You’re constantly writing and rewriting a contract with your dog.” Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing tackle the power of consistency, the pitfalls of “lumpy” training, and why even small slip-ups can throw your dog off track. They break down how to build a rock-solid training environment and avoid …

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How Do I Pick My Criteria? 57:52

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What to listen for: Training your dog to adhere to your criteria consistently is not a cut-and-dry process. It’s one of the trickiest balancing acts in dog training: when to hold the line and when to make adjustments within behavior chains. “Consistency is not about perfection, but predictability.” Dog handling, whether for sport or operational det…

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Episode #47 Steven Antommarchi Next Level K9 Texas 1:17:01

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Send us a text Over the last 15 years, Steven Antommarchi has held the law enforcement titles of Patrol Officer, Canine Handler, Canine Supervisor, Canine Trainer, and Interim Chief of Police. His first encounter with a K-9 team was in New York City on September 11, 2001. He witnessed a search and rescue K-9 team fighting through horrible condition…

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Getting the Most Out of Virtual Coaching 1:00:35

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What to listen for: Today in K9 Detection Collaborative, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss the keys to successful virtual training. “Virtual coaching is student-driven. Anything propelled by student drive, drives results.” Making the switch from in-person to online coaching can be a tough sell for many. But as our hos…

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What Else Should You NOT Do with Your Dog? 54:11

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What to listen for: Our hosts Robin, Stacy, and Crystal tackle not just the technical, but also the legal considerations of cross-training your dogs. After all, when a dog is run through both narcotics and explosives detection work and engaged in a high-stakes operation, the consequences can be disastrous if they are unable to respond to the right …

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Reflections on Chatting with Denise Fenzi 56:37

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What to listen for: Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing, reflect on their recent two-part conversation with Denise Fenzi and her strategies for ensuring steady, measurable progress when training your dog. “Learning is a fragile place. Being correct is a reward in itself.” Denise is a staunch advocate for finding your compass—a…

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A Conversation with Denise Fenzi Part 2: Choosing the Right Dog for the Job 1:02:58

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What to listen for: In part two of their discussion with the brilliant Denise Fenzi, our hosts Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing explore the delicate dance between striving for precision and cherishing the quirks of canine behavior! “Your dog has to have a lot of ‘want to.’ If they don’t have a lot of ‘want to,’ they’re not the right dog for the job.”…

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Episode #46 David Cohen: From Elite Jockey to Premier Dog Breeder and Trainer. 1:04:08

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Send us a text From Elite Jockey to Premier Dog Breeder and Trainer David Cohen’s journey from the racetrack to the forefront of elite dog breeding and training is a testament to his lifelong passion for animals, discipline, and excellence. As a professional jockey with over 20 years of experience, David built a reputation for precision, patience, …

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A Conversation with Denise Fenzi Part 1: A Humane Approach to Building Behavior Chains 46:03

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What to listen for: “If I cannot, in five repetitions, isolate a variable down and get it where I want it, I do need to stop. That doesn't mean the next time we'll be successful. What that tells me is, don't do the same thing again and again and again. And there's been a lot of variation. Isolate that variable. It looks good now. Put it back in a c…

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Episode #45 Bob Ungurean and Fritz Vorderbrug "Pager to Iphone 6+" 1:41:02

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Send us a text We've got a special interview with two fine gentlemen. They are each well accomplished, but have unique stories. They may seem like an unlikely pair to be collaborating with each other which makes this story unique. This is a special episode about redemption and seeing the good in people in spite of past misdeeds. It took some intest…

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Reflections on Training Ideas and Takeaways from our SAR Friends 59:17

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What to listen for: Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing reflect on key takeaways from their recent conversations with Diana Bunch, Jack Thorpe, and Annissia Justice – all expert handlers with a golden nugget or two (or 100s) around cadaver dog and disaster response training. From avoiding the "ego hide" trap, to getting …

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Training Ideas and Takeaways with Diana Bunch 57:30

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What to listen for: Today, 2/3 of the Dames of Detection - Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing - are sitting down with special guest Diana Bunch, an Air Force veteran-turned-search and rescue trainer. Diana shares her inspiring journey from the military to the world of disaster response, running through her various experiences in various search scenario…

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Talking Cadaver Dog Training with Jack Thorpe and Annissia Justice (pt. 2) 59:48

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What to listen for: In the second part of the two-part discussion, our hosts, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing, continue their interview with expert trainers Jack Thorpe and Annissia Justice. Drawing from their recent experience doing search and rescue in the aftermath of the floods brought on by Hurricane Doreen, our guests do a deep dive into thei…

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Talking Cadaver Dog Training with Jack Thorpe and Annissia Justice (pt. 1) 51:12

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What to listen for: Today, two of the three Dames of Detection, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing, sit down with two amazing handlers, Jack Thorpe and Annissia Justice. Drawing from their recent experience doing search and rescue in the aftermath of the floods brought on by Hurricane Helene, our guests do a deep dive into their best tips and strategie…

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Do You Want to Reinforce Sniffing During a Search? 58:03

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What to listen for: In today’s episode of K9 Detection Collaborative, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss the keys to cleaning up your dog’s behavior chain to help them stay on track and avoid distractions in the field. When it comes to reinforcing behavior, it’s just as important to get clear on when not to train parti…

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Episode #44 Steve Stoops "Man is Primary" 1:06:41

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Send us a text Steve “Zane” Stoops spent the last 19 years as the Senior Combat Assault Dog Trainer (CAD) for the United States Joint Special Operations Command-JSOC, assigned to the 1st SFOD-D, located at Ft. Liberty, NC (retired January 2024.) He and a very small and exclusive group of Special Operators are innovators and developed many K9 traini…

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Relaxed and Stressed People & K9 Learning 59:01

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What to listen for: “Don’t rush the training. Don’t trial too early. Because you’re short-changing that important part where you’re thoughtfully adding the right stress to the picture.” What’s the difference between “good” and “bad” stress in dog handling, and how do you incorporate the former into your training while minimizing the latter? Drawing…

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Episode #43 Jessie Owens-Wilder "Dogged Determination" 1:00:42

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Send us a text I first met Jessie some 8 years ago when she payed her way into a decoy class that I was teaching. She immediately impressed me with her athleticism and enthusiasm. At that time, she was simply a young law enforcement officer with and intense desire to become a k9 handler. She did her due diligence to make herself a viable candidate …

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Recognizing and Dealing with Displacement Behavior 51:29

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What to listen for: In this episode of K9 Detection Collaborative our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing explore the intricate world of displacement behaviors in dogs. They kick off by discussing recognizing these behaviors, which often arise from stress, frustration, or internal conflict in our canine companions. Our hosts share p…

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Working Up Your Behavior Chain to Find Where it Went Wrong 53:09

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What to listen for: "I found that the things I taught in higher arousal have held up better in higher arousal environments. The things done very slowly in lower arousal haven’t held up as well." Ever wondered why some detection dogs excel under pressure while others not so much? Join in exploring the dynamic world of canine detection training, guid…

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Developing Training Plans without In-Person Mentors 58:34

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What to listen for: Our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing offer their best tips for creating a training plan and measuring your progress without the help of an in-person mentor. Crystal sets the stage with a top ten list that includes strategies such as assessing your current skill level, setting long and short-term goals, varyin…

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Episode #42 Ben Rader of Rader K9 "Who has an original thought?" 59:24

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Send us a text We have been after Ben for an interview for a good while. He is actually one of the first gentlemen we pursued when we began the podcast. It was in his best interest to wait until he had fully retired from the Army before we interviewed him. Ben is one of those guys that makes you feel glad he's on our side! If your old enough to rem…

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Handling: When Do You, When Don't You 49:31

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What to listen for: Odor detection handling mastery comes down to hitting that delicate balance between doing too much and too little for your dog–the ability to offer intimate guidance while nurturing confidence. Our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing offer their best tips and strategies for using your presence as a handler to nu…

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Encouraging Your Dog to Be Brave 51:54

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What to listen for: Today our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing walk us through essential strategies for fostering independence and courage in dogs (and trainers!). They share their insights on avoiding the pitfalls of being an overprotective "helicopter handler" and how to allow your canine companion the freedom to explore their…

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Episode #41 Paul Ludwig and JC Leblanc from ATK9 1:05:11

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Send us a text Rich and I had a chat with two board members with ATK9. Paul Ludwig and JC Leblanc are both well known names in the working dog community. They provided pertinent information about the upcoming ATK9 conference in October. The number of world renowned instructors and format make this conference unique. Of course, there were many take …

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Distraction Camp 2024 Hot Wash! 50:52

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What to listen for: “Every distraction is a possible reinforcement.” Could minor changes in your training strategy routine drastically improve your dog's performance? Join Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing as they uncover the secrets behind intentional handling, drawing from their recent experience at Distraction Camp. From hide settin…

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The Importance of Known Hides 49:20

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What to listen for: “Even if you don't give them a cookie, you don't play, the dog has been reinforced. [It’s] just the way their brain works.” Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss how to use known hides to your advantage during training as compared to blind hides. They dive deep into the high stakes of detection work, …

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Talking Detection Dogs with Adee Schoon Pt 2 52:46

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What to listen for: “So I think dog training is almost 90% thinking and preparing, and 10% working with your dog.” Two of our three hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett sit down for part 2 with Adee Schoon, an expert in the detection field with over three decades of experience, to explore her diverse and groundbreaking projects. What happens when…

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Episode #40 Josh Kirby "Kirby K9" 1:01:16

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Send us a text It's especially rewarding for us to get an opportunity to interview a hard working man with integrity. That was certainly the feeling we had as we concluded the interview. Hope you all enjoy the conversation as much as we did. Josh is a retired police officer after serving at Garland PD and Denton PD in Texas since 2003. During that …

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Talking Detection Dogs with Adee Schoon Pt 1 59:19

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What to listen for: In this episode of K9 Detection Collaborative, Our hosts Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett sit down with Adee Schoon, an expert in the detection field with over three decades of experience, to explore her diverse and groundbreaking projects. Prepare to be fascinated by Adee’s incredible journey, from her early days researching sce…

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Troubleshooting Your Detection Chain 47:58

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What to listen for: Today, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing address a common concern among handlers: what to do if your dog is having trouble finding the source of an odor during a training search. First thing’s first: “Your dog is just giving you information. It’s not personal. They don’t have it out for you!” Fixing this problem sta…

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Episode #39 Rodney Spicer Gold Coast K9 "Perseverance" 1:22:05

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Send us a text We had a great conversation with Rodney Spicer of Gold Coast K9. Rodney shared how he became interested in working dogs in the 1980's. He also shared his insights into puppy and working dog selection. Rodney's transparency about his meager beginnings is refreshing. The theme that stands out is perseverance. We know that you'll enjoy …

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Functional Agility and All its Benefits 51:35

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What to listen for: "Physical agility gives them some mental agility too, and so it's giving them that well-exercised brain, and then that's helping them make decisions, helping them solve problems." Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing break down the components and applications of functional agility. They offer a roadmap…

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The Importance of Setting Hides 59:03

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What to listen for: “When you have that young dog, don’t put out that super hard hide. You don’t have that reinforcement history.” Our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss one of the most crucial elements of canine nosework: hide placement! Listen in as the Dames of Detection walk us through what we need to consider regardin…

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Episode #38 Jay Nix "Stop arguing and go train dogs" 1:17:36

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Send us a text We got the bugs worked out since the last episode and we were both able to participate. We both really enjoyed this episode and feel as though there are many great lessons to be learned. Hope you all enjoy the conversation and get some nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Jay Nix, is a Sergeant with the Marion County Sheriff’s Office, i…

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How Do You Define Success?!!? 48:53

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What to listen for: “Success is the joy that we have with our dogs and the relationships that we're building.” Ever wondered how small victories can pave the way to grand achievements with your canine companion? Our hosts Robin Greubel, Crystal Wing, and Stacy Barnett, come together for an insightful discussion on the nature of success in canine de…

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Episode #37 Mike Lilley "Holding the dog accountable in tracking" 1:00:14

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Send us a text Caught up with Mike Lilley for an interview. Unfortunately, Rich was having some technical difficulties and could not join us. We will be rectifying this by the next episode. I believe you will find Mike's methods to be innovative and sound. The proof is always in the pudding. His name is more and more becoming synonymous with solid …

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Being Coached Hard to Advance Your Training 53:53

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What to listen for: “My job as a coach is not to identify your destination, but your goal, and to help you identify and remove roadblocks to your goal.” Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing unearth valuable lessons from coaching humans that handlers can apply when training canine companions. They talk about what it means …