Are you Climate Curious? If you care about the world, but find the current conversation about climate change confusing, scary or boring – then this might be the podcast for you. Join TEDxLondon and co-hosts Maryam Pasha and Ben Hurst as we lift the lid on the climate emergency by speaking to the world’s leading and most relatable climate pioneers. Find out why cities are key to the climate fight, why we need to tackle systemic problems (and not just plastic straws), and why we’re all a bit c ...
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The Web of Us explores the visible and invisible connections that shape our world. Hosted by Claire Wathen, Visiting Fellow at the University of Oxford Saïd Business School, and produced by Josie Colter and Ben Beheshty at Studio Goldstar, this podcast invites you to explore how networks show up across everything from our brains and natural systems to our communities and workplaces. Guests from Oxford and around the world share unexpected career paths, insights from their fields, and reflect ...
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How psychological ownership can reduce environmental crime, with Dr. Julia Shaw
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6:22“If you just give people legal ownership without psychological ownership, they'll trash it,” says Dr. Julia Shaw on the latest ‘Climate Curious on Crime’. Tune in with Julia and co-hosts Ben Hurst and Maryam Pasha as they discuss the psychology of ownership, resource guarding, and Indigenous rights. If you enjoyed this short, you can listen to the …
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Climate Curious on Crime: Ep.2 The murders of Maria and Zé Cláudio and the psychology of eco-hitmen, with Dr. Julia Shaw
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44:17Rationalisation, conformity, impunity, ownership: tune in to hear the story of two remarkable environmental defenders Maria and Zé Cláudio – through the lens of criminal psychology. In conversation with Climate Curious co-hosts Ben Hurst and Maryam Pasha, join criminal psychologist Dr. Julia Shaw to ask, why are land defenders getting killed in cli…
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What do we do with environmental criminals? With Dr. Julia Shaw
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9:18When climate criminals are caught – what does justice look like? Criminal psychologist Dr. Julia Shaw joins Climate Curious co-hosts Ben Hurst and Maryam Pasha to explore the psychology of impunity, weigh up punishment versus rehabilitation, and the effectiveness of high penalties. Listen to episode 1/4 of ‘Climate Curious on Crime: Ep.1 Dieselgate…
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Climate Curious on Crime: Ep.1 Dieselgate and the psychology of corporate green con men, with Dr. Julia Shaw
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1:07:03Epistemic malevolence, eco-anger, whistleblowing, greenwashing: tune in to hear the story of Volkswagen’s emissions scandal ‘Dieselgate’ like you’ve never heard it before – through the lens of criminal psychology. In conversation with Climate Curious co-hosts Ben Hurst and Maryam Pasha, join criminal psychologist Dr. Julia Shaw to delve inside the …
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What is the role of psychology in fighting environmental crime? Criminal psychologist Dr. Julia Shaw joins Climate Curious co-hosts Ben Hurst and Maryam Pasha to explain what a green crime is, and why she spent three years writing a book on the topic. This conversation kicks off our new four-part mini-series ‘Climate Curious on Crime’ launching Oct…
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How biochar is turning waste into wealth, with James Mwangi
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10:37Africa’s young workforce is already turning waste biomass and sunshine into jobs, food security and scalable carbon removal, says James Mwangi, the founder and CEO of Africa Climate Ventures on the latest Climate Curious. In conversation with host Ben Hurst, James shares how biochar solutions are proving climate action can pay today and supercharge…
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How climate resilience can help end poverty, with Esther Duflo
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10:16“The poorest people in the world contribute exactly nothing to climate change,” says Nobel Prize-winning economist Esther Duflo. For decades, she has worked to tackle the so-called “wicked problem” of poverty. In this conversation with Climate Curious co-host Ben Hurst, Esther connects the dots between poverty and climate change. Esther shares how …
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LIVE | How a 20,000km life-sized animal puppet stampede makes climate impacts urgent, with The Herds’ David Lan
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31:58With his life-sized animal puppets stampeding their way across the globe representing nature’s struggle in the face of the climate crisis, Climate Curious’ co-hosts Maryam Pasha and Ben Hurst caught up with playwright, producer, and director, David Lan on how public art and street theatre is a powerful tool to engage mass audiences on climate actio…
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How Kenya is harnessing the heat from under its feet (geothermal energy!), with Dr. Anna Mwangi
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13:49Kenya has become a global leader in geothermal energy over the past 13 years, with 42% of all energy used by the country produced in geothermal plants, says geothermal scientist Dr. Anna Mwangi on Climate Curious. In conversation with co-host Ben Hurst, Anna shares why the geology of the Great Rift Valley makes geothermal a great energy solution fo…
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LIVE | Big Oil: What can we do to reclaim the story?
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51:50What are the tactics and propaganda playbook of Big Oil, and what role can artists and popular culture take in reclaiming the narrative? From the flaws of the Paris Agreement to why the net zero narrative is a political football, tune in to hear insights from investigative journalists, climate advocates and lawyers as they pinpoint solutions at thi…
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Meet the women farmers adapting to climate change, with Alison Ward, Noha Ali, and Samah Salah
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13:00Female small-holder farmers in India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh are adapting to climate change using both new and old farming techniques. From intercropping to help balance nitrogen in the soil, to nurturing a composting side hustle for increased agricultural income, women are gaining the knowledge and skills needed to become more resilient to the a…
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The story behind climate’s most powerful movement to date, with Xiye Bastida
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35:59“The youth climate movement was effective at raising attention to levels that it had never been at before,” says Mexican-Chilean climate activist and member of the indigenous Mexican Otomi-Toltec nation, Xiye Bastida, on the Climate Curious podcast. Growing up in Mexico and experiencing a climate disaster for the first time at age 13, Xiye was dete…
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The beauty queen building climate resilience in Kenya, with Dorcas Naishorua
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8:18Women are key to climate action in Kenya, says Maasai climate advocate, Miss Climate Kenya, and the world's first Miss Climate, Dorcas Naishorua. Sharing how climate change drives poverty and therefore reinforces child marriage and FGM, Dorcas shares lessons from people already deeply affected by climate change, and ultimately, why empowering women…
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Gamers are getting playful in the name of climate action, and it’s working! Featuring a digital wardrobe entrepreneur, a creative coder, an urban greening technologist, and a climate meme shitposter, Climate Curious asks – how are games encouraging people to play their way into being an environmentalist? Recorded live at Sexy Climate Change and Now…
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How to scale up courageous climate journalism, with mathematician turned climate war reporter Anjan Sundaram
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31:00What drives someone to swap a job at Goldman Sachs for a one-way ticket to the Congo? Journalist and mathematician Anjan Sundaram joins Climate Curious to share his journey from elite institutions to some of the most dangerous places on Earth, reporting on climate conflicts and the lives – and deaths – of the world’s bravest environmental defenders…
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How to shoot sustainable sci-fi, with Dr. Itandehui Jansen
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13:42Sci-fi film-making can be sustainable, says film professor and filmmaker Dr. Itandehui Jansen on the Climate Curious podcast. From filming in natural light, walking to set, and not creating set-builds, Itandehui shares the low-carbon filmmaking approaches that helped her to create the experimental sci-fi film ‘Itu Ninu’ – a story of two climate mig…
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Can we refreeze the Arctic? With Brad Ack
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13:38“There may well be measures that we can take on a temporary basis to cool the Arctic and to prolong Arctic sea ice”, says Brad Ack, the CEO of Ocean Visions. He joins Climate Curious to discuss how the ocean can play a central role in re-stabalising the climate. From its role in providing zero carbon food and energy and cleaning up carbon pollution…
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Who are the real ‘Climate Criminals?’ With filmmakers Becky Burchell and Sophie Austin
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29:52Who gets labelled a criminal in the fight for climate justice – and why? In this episode of Climate Curious, filmmakers Becky Burchell and Sophie Austin discuss the making of their latest documentary, Climate Criminals?, a documentary that retells the stories of frontline climate activists, in their own words. From Just Stop Oil’s Stonehenge protes…
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How to tap into your intuition: a live meditation with Hrund Gunnsteinsdóttir
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11:36What if the answers you’re searching for are already within you? Icelandic author and filmmaker Hrund Gunnsteinsdóttir joins Climate Curious to explore InnSæi – the Icelandic concept of intuition, self-awareness, and inner connection. Hrund shares her path to rediscovering presence and alignment with intuition through mindfulness and journaling, be…
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How movement connects our inner and shared worlds, with Alonzo King
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38:49“To make this world work, we have to be fanatically positive,” says globally renowned choreographer and founder of LINES Ballet Alonzo King on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Alonzo shares why movement is life, growing up with artistic and activist parents, and why stillness is key for sincere creative thought and collective acti…
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Imagine a garbage collector, but for your digital junk. Vijay Karia joins Climate Curious to share his solution for tackling the invisible but growing problem of digital waste – a platform designed to help organisations identify and eliminate unnecessary digital storage, cutting carbon emissions in the process. What’s even better? Profits from clea…
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Baby buffalos, Badlands, and breaking barriers: Hollywood actor Mo Brings Plenty on living without fear
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31:41“Live without fear,” says Hollywood actor and Oglala Lakota citizen Mo Brings Plenty, star of the hit series Yellowstone, on Climate Curious. Saddle up for an epic episode as Mo shares stories of growing up on the reservation, what baby buffalos have taught him about life, and how he’s determined to kick down more doors for American Indian folks to…
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How an indigenous water professor is making waves in the courtroom
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10:20“Water is more than a resource; it’s a relative,” says water professor and protector Kelsey Leonard on the Climate Curious podcast, recorded live at TED 2025. In conversation with co-host Maryam Pasha, Kelsey shares how she’s working to ensure water gets the same legal rights as humans – legal “personhood”. Because even though water is essential to…
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Why climate solutions are more abundant than you might think
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10:29"Focusing on the solutions gives you the motivation to wake up every day and be like, okay, we are doing something," says Jacquelyn Francis, founder and executive director of the Global Warming Mitigation Project on Climate Curious. From solar huts in sub-saharan Africa to electric drones delivering medical supplies in the U.S., Jacquelyn shares wh…
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The marvel and mystery of mycelium, with Sarah Watkinson
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52:56"Even though there may be all sorts of conflicts brewing, we can still talk as human beings who are fascinated; filled with wonder and curiosity," says Emeritus Research Fellow in Fungal Biology at the University of Oxford, Sarah Watkinson, on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Sarah shares how she’s built an enviable career spannin…
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How earth lawyers are making nature’s rights legally binding
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40:59What if rivers, forests, and mountains had legal rights–just like humans? Nature should be able to defend its rights, just like people can, says Earth Law Center’s Executive Director Grant Wilson on the Climate Curious podcast. Current laws only protect nature for the benefit of people, corporations, and profit, but Grant Wilson and his team of sup…
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How space science is uplifting farmers on the ground
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12:57"When people's lives are better and easier, they will not need to sell charcoal or cut down trees to feed their family," says food security specialist at the University of Maryland and NASA Harvest, Catherine Nakalembe. Catherine joins Climate Curious’s Maryam Pasha to share how satellite technology is used to monitor and predict agricultural condi…
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Are ‘The Herds’ roaming through a city near you? At our Climate Curious live event for London Climate Action Week, we sat down with David Lan, the producer of the worldwide street performance highlighting nature’s struggles through the medium of animal puppets, dance, and music. He shares what people can expect from their upcoming events in London …
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How The Herds is bringing nature's struggle to the streets
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39:28“When I try to do things, I have to take it out to the streets,” says Palestinian-born creative director of The Herds, Amir Nizar Zuabi. With his life-sized animal puppets that have made their way across the globe representing nature’s struggle, Climate Curious caught up with Nizar on what he has planned for London Climate Action Week, as well as w…
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Why fusion energy is closer than you think
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12:13The future of energy may be closer than we think, says Steffi Diem, an experimental plasma physicist on Climate Curious. She sits down Maryam Pasha live at TED 2025 to explain what fusion energy is, and how it could unlock a new frontier of clean energy in our lifetime, yay! Replacing fossil fuels with readily available hydrogen, Steffi shares why …
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How land use maps are empowering eco-farmers
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11:48If we can’t track it, we can’t fix it. That’s the idea behind MapBiomas, a project using satellite data to reveal exactly how land use is changing across the tropics. Founder Tasso Azevedo joins us live from TED 2025 to explain how the google maps for deforestation is empowering farmers and policymakers to turn their land into carbon sinks, not sou…
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How Atmos is keeping climate storytelling in vogue
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43:18“Use the arts and creativity as a way to speak to people's humanity around climate” says Willow Defebaugh, Editor-in-chief of the nature publication ‘Atmos’. This week Climate Curious is taking notes from Willow’s work blending creativity and climate storytelling into her unique and beautiful biannual magazine. Not to mention, we’ll be picking her …
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How a rainforest toxicologist is cleaning up gold mining in the Amazon
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13:13Not all that glitters is gold. Especially when it’s tinged with the poison of toxic mercury. On this week’s Curious Climate, co-host Maryam Pasha speaks to the rainforest toxicologist exposing mercury contamination in artisanal gold mining in the Amazon, live at TED 2025. The founding mercury research director at the Centro de Innovación Científica…
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Why labels are an invitation to break and remake, with Gina Chavez
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42:05"At our essence, we're more like the birds flying; we don't actually care about the boundaries that man has put on things," says genre-bending, Grammy-nominated recording artist Gina Chavez, on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Gina shares how she’s transcended categorization as a bilingual artist, her journey building a multi-face…
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New ways of growing baby corals are bringing life back to fading coral reefs, says Executive Director of Impact at the Great Barrier Reef Foundation, Theresa Fyffe on the Climate Curious podcast recorded live at TED 2025. From teaming up with First Nations communities, to inviting tourists to play reef gardener by planting baby corals raised in cor…
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How a social worker and an aquatic ecologist protected Europe’s last wild river
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39:13Wild rivers in Europe are vanishing fast—but not on Besjana Guri and Olsi Nika’s watch. In this episode of Climate Curious, the Albanian conservation activists share how over a ten year period they overcame big business, government pressure, and plenty of red tape to protect the Vjosa River in The Balkans—one of the last truly wild rivers in Europe…
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Why trust starts with seeing the best in each other, with Premal Shah
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32:19"When people can vouch for people, friction from certain systems can disappear at scale," says the co-founder of Kiva and president of Branch, Premal Shah, on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Premal takes us behind-the-scenes on how he created the world’s foremost microfinancing platform for underserved markets, shares how he made…
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How doctors are healing more than just patients
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11:19Medical professionals are powerful voices in the climate conversation, says doctor turned climate advocate Dr. Bruce Bekkar on Climate Curious. From noticing the effects of pollution on his patients to taking his first steps into climate action, Bruce shares why protecting our environment is also about protecting our health. Recorded live at TED 20…
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How to find your climate footing (even if you're slipping)
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14:58Feeling wobbly about your place in the climate movement? You’re not alone. Writer, activist, and All We Can Save co-founder Katharine Wilkinson joins Climate Curious to share how even the tiniest action—whether in your job, your community, or your conversations—can ground you and spark bigger change. As she tells us at TED 2025, sometimes you just …
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How to navigate an entangled future, with Ian Goldin
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36:06"Developing a mindset which prepares us for this entangled future is the intellectual journey that we all need to go on," says the founding director of the Oxford Martin School, Ian Goldin on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Ian shares what makes him hopeful, four criteria for building a great organization, and why migration accel…
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Crop failure, drought and extreme weather is pushing families to look for income outside of their normal routes, shares Dr. Mark Ofua, a wildlife veterinarian and the founder of the Pangolin Nigeria Trust. Tune in to understand the unsettling drivers behind climate, wildlife conservation and economics–and how this is impacting the rare and magical …
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With 25% of marine biodiversity found on coral reefs, it’s vital they are kept healthy! On Climate Curious today we hear from marine biologist, data scientist, and TEDxLondon speaker, Ben Williams, on how he’s utilising AI models to scan through years of underwater audio. His work focuses on measuring the health of coral reefs in an effort to help …
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Why bioplastics are key to a sustainable plastic future
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10:40From microplastic contamination in our food supply, to endless plastic ending up in landfill our dependence on oil-based materials poses a major challenge. Climate Curious speaks to a bacteria trainer who has developed a very promising solution to this problem. 2025 TED Fellow Patricia Ayma Maldonado trains powerful bacteria to synthesise completel…
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Happy Earth Day! This year, we’re celebrating climate progress. We spoke to our Climate Curious experts about what keeps them going during challenging times. Tune in to receive six chunks of wisdom on how to keep positive when progress might feel hopeless. Recorded live at TED 2025 in Vancouver. Featuring: Vijay Karia Kelsey Leonard Jacquelyn Franc…
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Environmentalism isn't a one dimensional thing, says environmental justice technologist and author Joycelyn Longdon on the Climate Curious podcast. In conversation with co-host Ben Hurst, Joycelyn shares the thinking behind her new book, ‘Natural Connection’, and breaks down how anyone can step into their inner environmentalist by tapping into rag…
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Sea otters are helping to capture carbon, says Alister Scott, the co-director of the Global Rewilding Alliance, on Climate Curious. By reintroducing sea otters back to their habitat in San Francisco, scientists have seen a growth in sea grass, which is a massive carbon sink. Tune in to learn more about this otterly wonderful natural climate solutio…
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Can the far-right stall climate progress?
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12:43From conveniently hiding key climate science to flat out running misinformation campaigns, Climate Curious takes a look at the far right’s influence on climate. We’re joined by journalist and ‘Alt Reich’ author Dr. Nafeez Ahmed to connect the dots between techno-authoritarian power players, right wing politics, and attempts to stall climate action.…
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Opening doors between places and people, with Dr. Anne Makena
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37:29"Everything in Oxford is named Oxford this or Oxford that, and we were very deliberate in being named Africa Oxford not Oxford Africa, and that re-centers Africa in the conversation" says the Co-Director of the Africa Oxford Initiative, Dr. Anne Makena on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Anne shares how she’s spearheading equitabl…
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Why the true currency of power is about who you uplift, with Paula Moreno
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43:24"When you understand the power game, you understand that you are not so critical for politicians," says former Colombian minister and founder of Manos Visibles, Paula Moreno on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Paula explores the importance of creating inclusive spaces, why navigating power dynamics is about realizing that power is…
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Systems thinking means systems acting, with Paulo Savaget
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31:12"We shouldn't be paralyzed by analysis, right? That’s the essence of solving systems," says Brazilian entrepreneurship engineer Paulo Savaget on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Paulo shares why thinking like a computer hacker can be a great approach, how piggybacking on other peoples’ solutions can save you a ton of work, and why…
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