Welcome to Gospel Talks Podcast! We help Christians all over the world become more effective in relational evangelism and discipleship. Gospel Talks belongs to the Exchange which exists to train Christians and Churches in relational evangelism and discipleship. Jeff Musgrave is the founder and author of the Exchange Bible Study, Giving the Exchange, and Living the Exchange. Our books will equip you to reach your neighbors, friends, and coworkers with the gospel of Jesus Christ. Subscribe and ...
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Weekly podcast for the CO2 and galvo laser community. Come listen to a vast array of topics including how to make things to business decisions and marketing. Join us on facebook also at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/laserlounge1
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#56 - Can You Adapt to Culture and Stay Faithful to the Gospel? with Pastor Joel Mosier
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33:22How do we reach people across cultural and religious divides—without diluting the gospel? In this episode, Pastor Joel Mosier shares lessons from his ministry in Houston, one of the most ethnically diverse cities in the U.S. From wearing cowboy boots during rodeo week to breaking fast at a mosque, Joel offers practical wisdom on relational evangeli…
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#55 - The Gospel and That One Relationship You Keep Avoiding with Pastor Matt Fagan
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28:52Episode Summary: Sometimes the thought to share the gospel isn’t a one-time thing—it’s a persistent, nagging feeling you’ve had for weeks or months about a specific person in your life. You know God’s been pressing on your heart to speak up, but somehow you keep delaying. This episode of Gospel Talks dives into that relational evangelism comfort zo…
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#54 - What Do You Mean by Discipleship? Guest: Pastor Brad Stille | Host: George Binoka
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32:35Episode Overview: Discipleship is a word that gets tossed around in Christian circles—but what does it actually mean? In this episode, Pastor Brad Stille, senior pastor at Wixom Baptist Church and Exchange Trainer, joins George Binoka to break down what real discipleship looks like in everyday life. This conversation dives deep into the difference …
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#53 - From Addiction to Redemption with Tony Mendez
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36:17Gospel Talks Podcast – Ep. 53: From Addiction to Redemption with Tony Mendez In this gripping and hope-filled episode of Gospel Talks, host George Binoka sits down with Tony Mendez, a man whose journey from addiction, trauma, and jail to freedom, faith, and family restoration is nothing short of miraculous. Tony opens up about the pain of his child…
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Writing Your Business Plan for a Maker Business.
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26:37In this episode, we’re breaking down the Maker/Laser Business Plan Template—section by section—and showing you how to actually use it to shape your business, not just fill in the blanks. If you’ve ever felt stuck, scattered, or unsure about your next move, this is your roadmap. No expensive course. Just a clear, tactical breakdown of the plan every…
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#52 - Relational Evangelism, Addiction, and Urgency: Part 3 of Our Interview with Ben & Saso
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22:40In the final part of our 3-part series with Abundant Life Podcast co-hosts Ben Arellano and Saso Mendez, we explore the heart of relational evangelism in a broken world. From the secular workplace to the addictions ministry of Freedom That Lasts, Ben and Saso open up about what it looks like to love people intentionally, share the gospel urgently, …
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#51 - From Lesson One to Life Change: Part 2 of Our Interview on The Exchange Bible Study with Ben Arellano & Saso Mendez
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18:29In this follow-up to Episode #50, George continues the conversation with Ben Arellano and Saso Mendez to dive deeper into how The Exchange Bible study has become a powerful tool for evangelism and discipleship in their ministry. From awkward first meetings to salvations in parking lots, this episode is full of real-life stories showing how God uses…
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#50 - How Two Friends Are Reaching the Addicted and the Skeptical W/ Ben Arellano and Saso Mendez
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26:09In this episode, George sits down with Ben Arellano and Saso Mendez — co-hosts of the Abundant Life Podcast — to reflect on God’s sovereign work in friendship, evangelism, and discipleship. What began as two men growing in Christ has grown into a ministry that reaches across the globe, not for their glory, but for the glory of the One who saves. Th…
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Podcast: Gospel Talks Hosts: George Binoka & Jeff Musgrave Episode Date: June 3, 2025 Episode Summary: In this stirring episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave explore the eternal significance of gospel-centered relationships. Drawing from Luke 16 and the parable of the unjust steward, they unpack Jesus’ radical call to leverage ou…
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#48 - Be Salty! Making People Thirsty for Jesus.
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30:09Summary: In this episode, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave unpack Jesus’ metaphor of salt—not as a compliment to human decency, but as a powerful spiritual calling. Believers are meant to live in such a way that people around them become spiritually thirsty—for the living water only Christ can give. You’ll learn how God is already at work in people’…
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#47 - Building Bridges That Last: Four Keys to Relational Evangelism
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32:42Episode Description: In this episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka and Pastor Jeff Musgrave dive deep into the biblical and practical foundations of relational evangelism. Using Acts 11 as a model, they explore how the early Church of Antioch built bridges that led to lasting discipleship—and how we can do the same today. You’ll learn four powerfu…
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🎧 Episode Description: In this episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave dive deep into the heart of relational evangelism—how to effectively go, find, and invite people to Jesus. They share powerful stories from the mission field, training efforts across Mexico, and the importance of inviting people not just to church, but to a rela…
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#45 - Can someone grow up Mormon, serve a mission, and still never truly know Jesus Christ? - with Cody Bentley
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33:51What happens when you devote your life to a religion, only to realize you’ve never truly encountered Jesus Christ? In this powerful conversation, Cody Bentley shares his deeply personal story of growing up Mormon, wrestling with doubts, and ultimately finding true salvation through faith in Jesus. Cody reveals the hidden struggles many within Mormo…
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#44 - Pictures of Evangelism (Pt. 1): Come and See
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30:33Episode Description: In this first episode of a new series on Gospel Talks, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave dive into the phrase “Come and See” as a model for evangelism. Drawing from John 1, they unpack how Jesus invited others into relationship—not through argument or pressure, but through presence and personal connection. They talk about why int…
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Scrappy Side Hustle vs. A Real Small Business
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1:05:05Today we’re digging into a conversation that every maker, laser owner, and creative entrepreneur needs to hear — the difference between a scrappy side hustle and a real-deal small business. I’m your host, Alisha Pate, and James is here with me at the ranch as we break down the mindsets, the money, the misconceptions, and the messy middle of it all.…
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#43 - Deeply Loved: A Pastor’s Journey into Relational Evangelism with Pastor Josh Musgrave
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34:20📖 Episode Description What happens when a rebellious pastor’s kid, twice baptized and once broken-hearted, finds his way into a ministry built on love, listening, and relational evangelism? In this heartfelt episode, Pastor Josh Musgrave shares his powerful testimony—from preaching at two years old and chasing NFL dreams, to being mentored by his d…
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#42 - Faithful Over Flashy: How Pastor Matt Built a Thriving Church Through Relational Evangelism
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32:20Podcast Description: In this episode of Gospel Talks, we sit down with Pastor Matt to explore his journey into ministry, the crucial role discipleship played in his growth, and the challenges of church planting. We discuss the his church planting model, the importance of longevity in ministry, and practical ways to equip believers for evangelism. W…
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#41 -From Basketball Coach to Lead Pastor with Brad Stille - How Ministry Thrives with a Coach’s Mindset
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29:28Description: How do you build a ministry that multiplies disciples? In this episode of Gospel Talks, host George Binoka sits down with Pastor Brad Stilly, a seasoned Exchange trainer, to discuss the power of relational evangelism and discipleship. Pastor Brad shares his journey in ministry, the impact of coaching, and how to overcome resistance to …
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#40 - Being a Good Neighbor with Pastor Joel Mosier
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26:54In this special episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka sits down with Pastor Joel Mosier from Houston, Texas—a seasoned pastor and Exchange trainer—to discuss his journey into ministry and his passion for relational evangelism. Pastor Joel shares powerful stories of reaching his neighbors, building authentic relationships, and using The Exchange Bi…
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#39 - Why The Exchange Is Not Just Another Church Growth Program | Gospel Talks Podcast
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32:42Show Notes: In this episode of Gospel Talks, Jeff and George dive deep into the heart of The Exchange and why it's not merely a church growth program — it's a spiritual lifestyle shift. They explore the key differences between traditional church programs and relational evangelism, emphasizing how The Exchange equips believers to share the gospel in…
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Upgrading Your Shop: Is That Big Equipment Buy Worth It?
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27:55Thinking about leveling up your shop with a big-ticket item like a UV printer? In this episode, I break down how I decided to pull the trigger on a major equipment upgrade—and what you need to consider before you do the same. From crunching the numbers to sizing up demand, we’ll explore the must-knows for making smart, regret-free investments in yo…
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#38 - God’s Plan to Reach the World—And It’s You! No Plan B.
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33:14Show Notes: In this episode of Gospel Talks, we discuss God’s ultimate plan for reaching people—you! There is no Plan B. You are God’s primary method for spreading the gospel and making disciples. 🔹 Multiplication vs. Addition – Why disciple-making is more impactful than mass evangelism 🔹 God Gives the Increase – Faithfulness matters more than volu…
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#37 - Don’t Be Rude! How to Engage in Gospel Conversations with Grace
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28:58Show Notes: In this episode of Gospel Talks, we explore how poor communication habits can close doors to meaningful gospel conversations. Chapter 4 of Giving the Exchange focuses on key communication skills that help us show people the love of God. We’ll discuss: ✅ The importance of showing genuine interest and concern ✅ Two key skills: Asking good…
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Welcome back to The Laser Lounge at Pate Ranch, the podcast where we talk all things laser engraving, making, and running a successful business in the maker world. I’m your host, Alisha Pate, and today we’re diving into a topic that can make or break your business—opportunity cost. Every decision you make in your shop—whether it’s taking on a new c…
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#36 - How The Exchange Can Help Church Plants & Revitalizations
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27:33Show Notes: In this episode of Gospel Talks, we explore how The Exchange can be a game-changer for church plants and revitalizations. Whether you're building a new church or strengthening an existing one, spiritual growth and new conversions are essential. Key Topics: 🔹 Every Church Plant Needs Laborers – Matthew 9:38 Pray for workers and intention…
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#35 - Your Barriers Are Actually Relationship Magnets: Sharing Christ in Everyday Life
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20:50Think your circumstances are holding you back from sharing the gospel? In reality, those "barriers" might just be the relationship magnets God has given you! Whether you're a stay-at-home parent navigating playdates or a professional juggling a busy schedule, the key to evangelism is finding common ground with those around you. In this episode, we …
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#34 - Why Witnessing to Family Is So Hard—and How to Do It with Patience and Persistence
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24:55Show Notes: Why is sharing the gospel with family so difficult? If you’ve ever tried witnessing to a family member, you know how challenging it can be. Even Jesus Himself experienced rejection from His own family and hometown (John 4:44; John 7:1-5). But there’s hope! After His resurrection, Jesus' brothers believed and became key leaders in the ea…
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#33 - Why is Relational Evangelism more important than ever?
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26:11Episode Description: In this final episode of our three-part series, we shift from defending relational evangelism to building a compelling positive case for it from Scripture. Drawing on biblical principles, we explore why forming genuine relationships is essential for sharing the gospel effectively in today's culture. We’ll discuss: The Biblical …
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#32 - Should We Kiss Relational Evangelism Goodbye? Part 2
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24:57Show Notes: Should We Kiss Relational Evangelism Goodbye? Part 2 In this episode of the Gospel Talks Podcast, we continue to dive into Pastor David Doran Jr.'s thought-provoking article, "I Am Kissing Relational Evangelism Goodbye," where he outlines three key reasons for stepping away from the term and approach. With love and respect, we explore h…
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#31 - Should We Kiss Relational Evangelism Goodbye? Part 1
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24:53Show Notes: Should We Kiss Relational Evangelism Goodbye? In this episode of the Gospel Talks Podcast, we dive into Pastor David Doran Jr.'s thought-provoking article, "I Am Kissing Relational Evangelism Goodbye," where he outlines three key reasons for stepping away from the term and approach. With love and respect, we explore his points while off…
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#30 - Turning Small Talk into Soul Talk: Steering Conversations Toward the Gospel
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35:55Show Notes: How do you move from casual chats to meaningful conversations that point people to Christ? In this episode of the Gospel Talks Podcast, we’ll uncover: 🔑 4 Questions that naturally guide conversations toward the Gospel. ❤️ The art of identifying and addressing soul needs like loneliness, fear, and guilt. ✨ How Jesus used questions to tak…
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#29 - How to find five lost people you can reach?
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32:18Podcast Show Notes: The Find Five List – How & Why Episode Overview In this episode, we’re diving into the concept of the Find Five List: a simple, intentional approach to sharing the Gospel through relational evangelism. You'll learn: How to identify five people in your life who need Jesus. Why relational evangelism is key to meaningful Gospel con…
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#28 - How forceful do we need to be in our evangelism? Jesus was a gentleman.
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25:07In this episode of Gospel Talks, we explore the persistent and gentle nature of Jesus as portrayed in Revelation 3:20. Jesus patiently knocks on the doors of our hearts, offering fellowship to those who open to Him. But He doesn’t force His way in—He waits, even when we resist or misunderstand. Whether someone doubts God's existence, disagrees with…
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#27 - The Great Commission is for Ordinary People!
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25:30Podcast Show Notes: The Great Commission is for Ordinary People Episode Overview: In this episode, we explore the profound truth that the Great Commission is not reserved for a select few but is the mission of every believer. Empowered by the Holy Spirit, every follower of Christ has been strategically placed and commissioned to share the Gospel. W…
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#26 - Can I Show the Love of Christ While Harboring Bitterness?
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20:42Listener Question: @recipefordisaster asked: “Can I show the love of Christ but still harbor bitterness in my heart? Can the two coincide?” This episode tackles a profound and relatable question. Here’s what we discuss: Can God Use Imperfect People? Yes! Scripture reminds us that no one is perfect (1 John 1:8). God used imperfect, flawed people thr…
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#25 - Secrets of the Harvest: What Jesus’ Parables Teach About Rescuing Souls
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28:53In this episode of the Gospel Talks Podcast, we dive into Mark 4, where Jesus uses farming parables to teach powerful truths about God’s rescue mission for souls. These lessons build on last week’s discussion from Matthew 13 and continue to answer a listener’s question about what it means to pray to the Lord of the Harvest. Discover how God is acti…
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Special Edition: Finding Hope in the Storm – Hurricanes and the Gospel
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29:20Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! In this special edition episode, we explore the powerful connection between natural disasters and the message of the Gospel. When hurricanes hit, they leave destruction and fear in their wake, but they also remind us of the unshakable hope found in Christ. Join us as we discuss how believers can offer comfort, hope…
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#24 - Overcoming Social Anxiety: Sharing the Gospel with Confidence
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26:14Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! In this episode, we dive into how to overcome social anxiety when sharing the gospel, with a focus on using The Exchange Bible Study. A listener shares their experience with anxiety around evangelism, and we provide practical tips on how The Exchange can help. Designed for believers to study the Bible with an unbel…
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#23 - Is Discover God’s Exchange Right for My 5-Year-Old? Exploring Evangelism for Kids
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25:11Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! In this episode, we address a common question from parents: Is Discover God’s Exchange suitable for younger children, like my 5-year-old? Join us as we dive into the purpose of Discover God’s Exchange and how it equips kids with foundational gospel truths. We also share insights on child evangelism, the importance …
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#22 - Top 5 Fears of Sharing Christ and How to Overcome Them
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24:22Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! In this episode of Gospel Talks, we explore the top five fears that stop Christians from sharing their faith. Whether it's the fear of rejection, ruining a relationship, or being asked a question you can't answer, we break down each fear and provide practical, biblical strategies to overcome them. With real-life ex…
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Laser Engraving Firearms the Legal Way with Jeff Stockton
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1:00:59"Welcome to today's episode of The Laser Lounge Podcast! I'm thrilled to have a special guest joining us — Jeff Stockton, an expert in the art of firearm engraving. With years of experience, Jeff has mastered the craft of transforming firearms into true works of art, blending precision, creativity, and tradition in every piece he engraves. Today, w…
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#21 - How to Turn Any Conversation into a Life-Changing Gospel Moment
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20:53Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! Ever wondered how to naturally direct conversations towards the Gospel without forcing it? In this episode, we dive into the art of meaningful, soul-level conversations that open the door for Gospel truths to take root. Learn how to identify and connect with the deep needs of the heart—loneliness, emptiness, fear, …
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#20 - Mastering the Art of Gospel Conversations: The Power of Good Questions
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23:44Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! In this episode, we dive into the essential skills that can turn everyday interactions into meaningful Gospel conversations. We explore the difference between asking good questions and falling into bad diagnostic traps rooted in wrong assumptions. Learn how to become a great conversationalist by asking open-ended, …
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#19 - Show & Tell Evangelism: Bringing the Gospel to Life
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24:48Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! In this episode, we explore the difference between simply reporting the Gospel and truly showing and telling it in our everyday lives. Remember those days of standing nervously in front of the class to give a book report? Now, think of the joy and excitement of Show & Tell, where you could share your favorite toy o…
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Targeting Success: Strategies to Win Over Your Next B2B Client
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47:44Welcome to "Targeting Success: Strategies to Win Over Your Next Client" with James Pate! In this session, we'll dive deep into the art of client acquisition. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting out, this livestream is designed to equip you with proven techniques and fresh insights to help you identify, attract, and secure your i…
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Special Edition - We Got Our First Piece of Fan Mail!
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13:46Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! In this special August 2024 episode of Gospel Talks, we tackle a thoughtful question from a listener in Statesville, North Carolina: How do you share the Gospel when someone is fixated on controversial issues like abortion, gender, and sexuality, and refuses to even consider the Christian position? This episode exp…
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#18 - Overcoming the Fear of Sharing Your Faith: Boldness in Christ
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19:46Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! Sharing your faith can be intimidating, even for seasoned believers. In this episode, we dive into the common struggle of fear when it comes to talking about the Gospel. We’ll discuss the reality that fear may never completely go away, but we can overcome it by focusing on God’s truth and love for others. Learn how…
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#17 - I Gave My Unsaved Friend the Wrong Answer—Now What?
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19:50Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! What if I answer something wrong? For many Christians, the fear of saying the wrong thing can be paralyzing. But what happens when you do make a mistake, especially when talking with unsaved friends? In this episode, we discuss how to navigate those moments with grace and wisdom. We explore the importance of trusti…
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#16 - Finding the Perfect Spot for Your Exchange Bible Study
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18:30Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! Finding the perfect spot for a one-on-one Bible study can make all the difference in creating a meaningful and impactful experience. In this episode, we explore various locations that offer the right atmosphere for studying scripture with a friend. From cozy cafes to peaceful parks, discover the best environments t…
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Ask Your Evangelism Question Now! Submit Your Questions Here! And we will answer them on future episode. In this episode, we delve into a thought-provoking question: Should you pray with an unbeliever? Join us as we explore the power and impact of prayer, even for those who may not yet believe. **Key Topics Covered:** - **The First Real Prayer:** D…
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