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Co-hosts (and ex-pastors) Jason Stellman and Christian Kingery discuss politics, religion, and culture over drinks.
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Podcast #559: At the Tone, Please Record Your Message
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1:13:02We begin this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors by entertaining the (disturbing or exciting) thought that we could soon become grandfathers. A voicemail about The Last of the Mohicans leads to a discussion about One Battle After Another, then we hear from another caller talking about Scott Galloway's warnings around online dating culture. Another listene…
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Podcast #558: Old Movies and the Plight of Young Men
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1:18:41This episode begins with a discussion of "period-piece" films, and we then pivot to discussing the new Peacock show All Her Fault (there are spoilers). We give a brief update on the case against Pastor Mike Montgomery, and then spend the remainder of the episode discussing Scott Galloway's new book on the plight of young men in this country: dispro…
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Podcast #557: Pluribus, Satan, and Zionist Crusaders
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1:34:28We begin this episode of DXP with a discussion about how frustrating Jason finds the premise of the new show, Pluribus. We briefly discuss the bizarre (but frightening if true) allegation by Candace Owens that the French government has ordered her assassination, and then talk about whether the Epstein files will end up being a big nothing burger. W…
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Podcast #556: Wayward Pines, AI Music, and Christian Welfare
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1:13:45After some initial cruise-related banter we begin the show by talking about Wayward Pines, the series of books and TV episodes by author Blake Crouch. Christian realizes that Jason was right about Matt Dillon not being a good actor; we then discuss whether an AI can actually write a good song (it's complicated). We talk about the woman who allegedl…
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Podcast #555: A.I., Sexual Ethics, and Robot Girlfriends
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55:02We hear from a listener with some thoughts on the recently-discussed issue of synthetic relationships and "robot girlfriends," which leads to the topic of sex robots and the ethics of it all. We hear from another caller with some insight into "plastoline" (the alternative fuel source discussed last week).…
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Podcast #554: Synthetic Lovers, Plastoline, and Algorithmic Disruption
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1:04:16We begin this episode by highlighting a fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Joseph Gordon Levitt over the issue of "synthetic relationships" and their implications for young children. We discuss the recent invention of plastoline, an alternative fuel source that can power automobiles. We conclude by considering one of Bill Maher's recent New Rules in…
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Podcast #552: Charlie Sheen, Antisocial Behavior, and our Divided Society
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1:22:34We begin this episode by talking about the recent documentary, AKA Charlie Sheen. We hear from a caller about the seeming hypocrisy on both sides of the political aisle when it comes to the types of antisocial behavior people are willing to endure, and then revisit the Riyadh comedy festival, and Louis CK's remarks to Bill Maher specifically. We di…
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Podcast #552: AI Actors, Comedy in Riyadh, and Violence Entrepreneurs
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1:07:44We begin this episode discussing movies, and One Battle after Another specifically, which leads to the topic of the hottest new Hollywood actress (who just happens to be an AI creation). We tackle the issue of the recent comedy festival in Riyadh and whether those who attended have sold out and compromised their western values for a paycheck. We tu…
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Podcast #551: Charlie Kirk, Free Speech, and Jimmy Kimmel
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1:06:56In this episode we return once again to the Charlie Kirk murder and address some of the pushback we have received over our coverage of it, including whether it is worth fretting over when an active genocide is happening in Gaza. We address Kirk's statement about some gun deaths being "worth it" to protect the second amendment, and then discuss Jimm…
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Podcast #550: The Assassination of Charlie Kirk, Part 2
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1:18:51We begin this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors with an update on the D4VD concert as well as some stories from Las Vegas. We then continue our discussion of the murder of Charlie Kirk, as well as the fallout from last week's conversation about the same topic. We talk about the issue of free speech and where Jimmy Kimmel's suspension falls on the censors…
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Podcast #549: The Assassination of Charlie Kirk
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1:41:21We dedicate this entire episode to the life, thought, and assassination of right-wing political activist Charlie Kirk. We discuss his views on race, Israel, LGBT- and gender ideology (among other issues). We also cover the various ways people have responded to his murder (with everything from sadness to glee). We conclude with some thoughts on poli…
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Podcast #548: Liturgy, Laughter, Camaraderie, Contemplation
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1:15:27We begin this episode of DXP with a heartwarming observation that everything is just getting worse with no signs of improvement. We hear from a caller with some thoughts on diet and exercise, from which we springboard to a discussion about money and energy, and what (if any) effect our attitude has on wealth and abundance. We then discuss the topic…
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Podcast #547: AI, Warped Reality, and Cultural Extinction
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1:17:58On this episode of DXP we return to the topic of AI (which we talk about a LOT, but it is the most significant and potentially species-ending technology, like, ever). We then turn our attention to the disturbing trend of low birth rates, discussing whether certain cultures have already crossed the line where they cannot be sustained (not to mention…
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Podcast #546: American Eagle and White Supremacy
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1:15:43In this episode of DXP we hear Christian's thoughts on the new Superman movie, after which we get an update on Coldplay-gate. We reflect on the recent American Eagle ad campaign as well as the fallout from it, which springboards into a conversation about masculinity and femininity. We hear from a caller about our recent discussion about public scho…
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Podcast #545: Coldplay, the WNBA, and the American Dream
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1:13:08After paying tribute to Hulk Hogan we revisit some old report cards from elementary school. We discuss Coldplay-Gate and the responses to it on social media, and then we turn our attention to the shirts the players wore at the WNBA All-Star Game. We play a TikTok about the death of the American dream, and hear from a caller with strong opinions on …
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Podcast #544: Death, Epstein, and Non-Partying
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1:08:51We begin this episode by paying tribute to a friend of ours who took his own life recently, and then we hear from a caller who is curious about exactly how well we know one another. We revisit the topic of "Very Special Episodes" from the '80s, and then chat a bit about the Epstein case. We conclude by discussing a recent article about how anti-soc…
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Podcast #543: A.I. and Traditional Commerce
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1:06:00Despite some tech snafus, DXP is back with a single episode this week. We revisit the topic of artificial intelligence, suggesting that at the rate things are progressing, the entire paradigm of how we get money to pay for things (or just how we pay for things) is likely to change drastically, despite there being seemingly no plan to address this u…
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Podcast #542: Sports, the Pope, and Artificial Intelligence
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1:26:49This week we revert to our old format and tackle politics, culture, and religion in a single episode. We briefly touch upon various rule-changes we'd like to see in professional sports, and then give an update about the soon-to-be-released DXP Summer Playlist. We discuss celebrities, and Brad Pitt in particular, and then weigh in on Pope Leo's rece…
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Podcast #541, Religion: There is No God, and We are His Disciples
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30:52In our Religion Block we hear from a caller who asks why God can denounce empty and pious platitudes from Christians who refuse to actually help the needy, while he himself rarely seems to show up in times of trouble. In response we suggest that perhaps God only helps the poor by means of his people, and that he neither afflicts nor heals anyone di…
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Podcast #540, Politics: Trump, Elon, and the Epstein Files
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33:21In this week's Politics Block we discuss Elon Musk's claim that President Trump's name is in the infamous Epstein files. Springboarding from there, we discuss the various blackmail operations that intelligence agencies such as the Mossad and C.I.A. regularly engage in, suggesting that the Diddy case may be such an example.…
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Podcast #539, Culture: AI, Movies, and The Wonder Years
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30:54In this week's Culture Block we talk about AI and its potential effects on Hollywood and the film industry, as well as the number of erstwhile human jobs it will make redundant. We then discuss a recent reel about The Wonder Years and whether something like that could be made today.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #538, Religion: No One Hates Christians for their Christ-likeness
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30:24In our Religion Block we share a new "Pastor Jack's Off" segment, this time hearing Jack Hibbs insist that all non-believers share a vehement hatred of evangelical Christians, but that the latter must endure that hatred out of love for God. Unfortunately for Pastor Jack, if he is in fact "hated," it has absolutely nothing to do with his so-called f…
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Podcast #537, Politics: Why We're Dumb and How to Fix It
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30:44In this week's Politics Block we discuss a new proposal by the San Francisco School District to drastically lower academic standards in an effort to create equity. We share our frustration with the school system as it currently stands, as well as highlight the systemic challenges that educators today face.…
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Podcast #536, Culture: Relationships and "Settling"
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29:39In this week's Culture Block we consider Scott Galloway's take on current dating statistics, particularly women's standards for prospective male partners, as well as precisely how ideal a possible partner has to be in order to continue the relationship.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #535, Religion: On Superbeings and Dogma
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30:59In our Religion Block we talk about the propriety of the Christian waiting for a "Superbeing" to save him, and apply Bonhoeffer's "Religionless Christianity" to this issue. We then hear from a caller asking for clarification on what "dogma" is and what it means to say that it cannot be changed.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #534, Politics: Voting Rights and the "Big Beautiful Tax Bill"
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38:28In this week's Politics Block we take a call from a listener asking about the Save Act and what, if any, restrictions should be placed on potential voters' rights. We then discuss Trump's "Big Beautiful Tax Bill," seeking to determine just how progressive or regressive it actually is. We close with a brief teaser about the effect Modern Monetary Th…
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Podcast #533, Culture: Is Artificial Intelligence Replacing Intelligence?
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47:56In this week's Culture Block we hear from a listener expressing some doubts about the legitimacy of Deadbots, which springboards into a conversation regarding just how helpful AI really is. We discuss the potentially dangerous ramifications of outsourcing our mental skills to computers, and where this could potentially leave us if continued uncheck…
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Podcast #532, Religion: Religious Ghettos and Sharia Law
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42:24In our Religion Block we hear from Pastor Jack Hibbs about how horrible it is for Muslims to create their own cultural and religious ghettos (even though when Christians and Jews do it it's perfectly fine). We springboard to immigration and discuss the proper relationship of the one to the many.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #531, Politics: Liberals Eating their Own
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35:29In this week's Politics Block we engage with Bill Maher's latest "New Rule" on the topic of liberals insisting on purity tests to judge how enlightened and woke their fellow Democrats are. We also apply this to the dating world, where a similar dynamic exists.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #530, Culture: Deadbots and Living Humans
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35:59In this week's Culture Block we discuss the latest AI marvel: "Deadbots," which enable grieving people to continue "talking" with their deceased loved ones. We weigh in on whether this is a good or bad thing, as well as its potential abuses.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #529, Religion: The American Pope
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39:56In our Religion Block we talk about Bishop Robert Prevost's election to the papacy as Pope Leo XIV, addressing the question of to what degree, if any, the conservative trajectory among American Catholics informed or influenced the Vatican's decision to choose him to fill the office.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #528, Politics: Health Care and the President's Personality
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36:39In this week's Politics Block we share some firsthand experience of how broken our health care system is in this country, and then we hear from a listener with some push-back against our coverage of Bill Maher's experience having dinner with Trump at the White House.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #527, Culture: 5 Most Impactful Albums, Part 2
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33:04In this week's Culture Block we continue our discussion about the five albums that have had the greatest personal impact on our lives, albums that we have listened to from start to finish more often than any others.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #526, Religion: Suspicion of (Catholic) Empire and the "Meaning" of Good Friday
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33:11In our Religion Block we address a question from a patron about balancing an admiration of the Catholic Church with a healthy and Exilic suspicion of Empire. We then launch into another segment of "Pastor Jack's Off," during which we laugh at Pastor Jack Hibbs's attempt at explaining Good Friday.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #525, Politics: Trump's First 100 Days
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38:42In DXP's Politics Block we discuss the historic polling about Trump's performance after his first 100 days in office, as well as how trustworthy and helpful polling such as this is.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #524, Culture: 5 Most Impactful Albums, Part 1
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31:03In this week's Culture Block we discuss the five albums that have had the greatest personal impact on our lives, albums that we have listened to from start to finish more often than any others.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #523, Religion: Jack Hibbs, Pope Francis, and being "Born Again"
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47:22In this week's Religion Block we listen to Pastor Jack Hibbs's report of the death of Pope Francis, discussing the former's insistence on the pope being born again as well as the connection between the papacy and the Exile/Empire paradigm outlined in our last Religion Block. Jason then addresses some questions from our patrons about the issue of So…
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Podcast #522, Politics: Mr. Maher Goes to Washington
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51:44In this week's DXP Politics Block we discuss Bill Maher's recounting of his visit to the White House and spending a few hours with his mortal enemy, Donald Trump. We reflect on Maher's surprising (even to him) account of Trump's behavior and overall demeanor, as well as the question of whether he should have accepted the invitation in the first pla…
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Podcast #521, Culture: On Sinners and "Astronauts"
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40:21In this week's DXP Culture Block we discuss the new film, The Sinner, which made Christian frustrated (not because he didn't like it, but because he didn't like it as much as the glowing reviews made him expect to). Then we turn our attention to the heroic, unprecedented, and death-defying trip that some celebrities took to space for eleven minutes…
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In this week's Religion block of Drunk Ex-Pastors Jason sets forth a broad paradigm for looking at religion and Christian themes: Exile/Empire. We unpack the meanings of these categories and see how they apply to common themes found in evangelicalism such as dogma, canon, and essentials/non-essentials.…
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Podcast #519, Politics: What Do Tariffs Alone Accomplish?
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35:13In this episode of DXP we dive into the tariffs discussion, pointing out their usefulness within the context of a fully-orbed commitment to American workers, while doubting their utility in isolation from such a plan. We also highlight the irony of so-called Leftists praising free trade agreements.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #518, Culture: The Case against Russell Brand
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30:14With this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we are trying out a new format! In this first of three weekly blocks we focus on culture, and specifically the sexual assault and rape case against English comedian and political commentator Russell Brand. We reflect on the odd nature of the timeline of events leading to the charges being filed, as well as the …
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we continue our trip down memory lane, highlighting the movies we have seen that have had a big impact on our lives. We focus on the years 2007 to the present day, chatting about Interstellar, Whiplash, About Time, Midnight in Paris, and lots of others.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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Podcast #516: Movie-Memory Lane III
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1:43:26In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we continue our trip down memory lane, highlighting the movies we have seen that have had a big impact on our lives. We focus on the years 1998 – 2007, chatting about the Lord of the Rings trilogy, The Notebook, Garden State, and lots of others.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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We begin this episode with some banter about the Lakers game that Jason took his dad to, and then we continue our respite from all things political and divisive by discussing the movies that most impacted us. This week we go from 1987-1997, talking about such films as Say Anything, Forrest Gump, Braveheart, and Good Will Hunting — sharing what we w…
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In this episode we take a much-needed break from politics and dedicate the majority of the episode to taking a walk down Movie-Memory Lane. We begin the year we each saw our very first movie in a theater (1977), and then list the films we remember seeing, why we enjoyed them, and how they impacted us. We make it to 1987, and will pick up from there…
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Podcast #513: The ER, the Oscars, and Immigration
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1:25:40In this episode of DXP we hear from Christian about his latest visit to the ER, and Jason shares his final update on his mom. We discuss the Oscars and the issue of celebrity culture more broadly, wondering if the time of rich entertainers lecturing the public is finally over. We discuss the show Severance, and then hear from a caller about whether…
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Podcast #512: Ancestry, Blind Spots, and So-Called Fascism
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1:27:55We begin this episode of DXP by discussing Taylor Sheridan, and his shows Yellowstone and Land Man in particular. Christian shares what he has learned from Ancestry.com, and then gives us an Oscar update. We talk about the book Blind Spots, and then hear from a caller asking for clarity on our segment about Jon Stewart and the so-called fascism tha…
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Podcast #511: Hollywood Drama, DOGE, and Perpetual Outrage
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1:27:38We begin this episode with a discussion about various Oscar-nominated films, hardly any of which Jason has heard of. We briefly discuss the drama surrounding Blake Lively and the side effects of Ozempic, and then turn our attention to whether or not people on the right regret their vote for Trump. We touch on DOGE, Gaza, and USAID, and then hear fr…
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Podcast #510: Fundamentalism, Emilia Perez, and Closedmindedness
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1:31:15In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we talk about the fact that "fundamentalist" is not an inherently religious posture, but can be applied to politics as well. We discuss the film Emilia Perez, which critics love but audiences don't (presumably because every single one of them is a transphobe). We hear from a caller about his frustration over the …
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