Best Heterodox Economics Podcasts (2025)

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EP 197: ENCORE: Larissa Phillips on Bridging Our Divides 30:55

34m ago30:55

30:55

As Tara puts the finishing touches on her next book, on declining trust in the media, we wanted to bring you a few encore interviews that have helped shaped her thinking on the media — including today’s episode. Since the election win for Donald Trump, we are seeing a renewed sense of scorn for Republican voters in parts of the mainstream media. Th…

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World War II Miniseries: Part 3 1:09:12

4d ago1:09:12

1:09:12

To mark the 80th anniversary of the Nazi surrender, Adam and Cameron are doing a three-part series on World War II. In Part 3, they look at the economics of the Holocaust. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Foreign Policy

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EP 196: ENCORE: Musa al-Gharbi on the Cultural Contradictions of the Elites 52:13

3h ago52:13

52:13

As Tara puts the finishing touches on her next book, on declining trust in the media, we wanted to bring you a few encore interviews that have helped shaped her thinking on the media — including today’s episode. The period often referred to as The Great Awokening is winding down now, and we’re starting to get a better understanding of what happened…

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World War II Miniseries: Part 2 1:03:02

3d ago1:03:02

1:03:02

To mark the 80th anniversary of the Nazi surrender, Adam and Cameron are doing a three-part series on World War II. In Part 2, they look at the economics of the postwar period. Also on the show: A quick conversation about U.S. President Donald Trump’s Middle East trip. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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EP 195: Meghan Daum on Life's Catastrophe Hours 36:29

5d ago36:29

36:29

In this turbulent era, for many of us there is a moment in every day when anxiety steals over us. We pause, and in that rare period of stillness, the fears surface — but sometimes, if we’re lucky, so too do the reflections and the insights. Our guest on today’s program has called this interlude “the catastrophe hour,” and she’s just published a boo…

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World War II Miniseries: Part 1 51:47

19d ago51:47

51:47

To mark the 80th anniversary of the Nazi surrender, Adam and Cameron are doing a three-part series on World War II. In Part 1, they look at the economics of the war itself. Also on the show: A quick conversation on U.S. President Donald Trump’s futuristic policies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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EP 194: Darrell Bricker on Our Divided Nation 25:05

12d ago25:05

25:05

Now that the dust has settled on the Canadian federal election, we can pause for a moment and assess where we are at as a country. What lessons can we take from the election results? Our guest on today’s program has been polling Canadians for decades — and he says that we are now a divided nation. Darrell Bricker is the CEO of Ipsos Public Affairs.…

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Heterodox Economists: Joseph Schumpeter 34:04

17d ago34:04

34:04

On this episode, we bring you the latest installment of Adam and Cameron’s occasional series on heterodox economists. Austrian Joseph Schumpeter produced most of his work in the United States as an immigrant and a Harvard professor, beginning in the 1930s. Schumpeter popularized the term “creative destruction.” Learn more about your ad choices. Vis…

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The Black University and Community Currencies, Pt. 1 1:26:14

18d ago1:26:14

1:26:14

In this episode, Money on the Left shares audio from "The Black University & Community Currencies,” a public workshop convened by Professor Andrew J. Douglas at Morehouse College on April 25, 2025. This episode presents Part 1 of the workshop. It features an introduction by Professor Douglas and two panels. The first panel is titled “What is Public…

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EP 193: David Zweig on Pandemic School Closures 34:55

19d ago34:55

34:55

One of the most polarizing policies of the pandemic era was the extended school closures. Critics have now been validated, with The New York Times reporting that “a growing body of research shows that pandemic school closures came at a steep cost to students” — while doing little to stop the spread of the virus. Our guest on the program today is a …

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EP 192: Election 2025 - Victor Febres on Political Polarization 31:01

23d ago31:01

31:01

Last week, at the English-language election debate, the leaders’ press scrums were cancelled after tensions between media outlets erupted into shouting in the press room, and other confrontations. This incident is a distressing example of how polarized our press has become. But of course, we are not the first country to grapple with this dynamic. M…

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Trump Looms Large in Canadian Election 44:03

29d ago44:03

44:03

In parliamentary elections next week, Canadians are expected to turn out in large numbers for the Liberal Party led by Mark Carney—in part as a reaction to U.S. President Donald Trump. The Liberals had been down in the polls for months, but Trump’s rhetoric and policy, including on tariffs, have prompted voters to turn away from the Conservatives a…

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From the Archive: The Economic Thinking of Pope Francis 25:18

1M ago25:18

25:18

Given the news of Pope Francis's death this past week, we're sharing a bonus episode from the archive. This originally aired in March 2024 and is titled, "The Economic Thinking of Pope Francis." We'll be back with a new episode this Friday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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EP 191: Election 2025 - Ramona Coelho on Assisted Dying 35:42

26d ago35:42

35:42

As election day nears, Lean Out continues to highlight the issues that we feel have not received enough attention in this news cycle. My guest on the program today is a physician who serves on death review committee with Ontario’s Office of the Chief Coroner. In today’s emotional interview, we take a close look at medical assistance in dying, or MA…

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EP 190: Election 2025 - Mike Moffatt Answers Every Question You've Ever Had About the Housing Crisis 42:49

27d ago42:49

42:49

We are in the final week of the Canadian federal election. And while Trump’s trade policy has received much coverage this election season, our housing crisis has been less of a priority for the legacy press. We at Lean Out happen to think this is the most important issue in the country — and so, on today’s program, our guest is here to answer every…

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Why an Unstable Bond Market Is a Big Deal 1:05:05

1M ago1:05:05

1:05:05

As tariff concerns rippled through financial markets around the world this month, the 10-year yield on U.S. Treasury bonds advanced 50 basis points. That is the most in more than two decades. Adam and Cameron talk about what fluctuations in the bond market mean and why it has put a scare in investors. Plus, in the second half of the show, the costs…

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EP 189: Election 2025 - Tristin Hopper on the State of the Nation 33:41

1M ago33:41

33:41

For some time now, writers and thinkers outside this country have been asking me: What happened to Canada? Our guest on the program today has asked this question himself, in a new book that takes a deep dive into our decline — and arrives just in time for the federal election. Tristin Hopper is a columnist and reporter for The National Post, based …

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EP 188: Vicky Nguyen on Her Journey From Boat Baby to the Today Show 40:17

1M ago40:17

40:17

As we all navigate a period rife with political tensions on both sides of the Canada/U.S. border, we wanted to bring you an incredible story that celebrates the human spirit and affirms our common humanity. Our guest on the program today was an eight-month-old baby when her parents smuggled her out of communist Vietnam, crossing the South China Sea…

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Trump’s Trade War with China 49:02

2M ago49:02

49:02

U.S. President Donald Trump reversed course this week as he announced a three-month pause on “reciprocal tariffs” but increased tariffs on China to 125 percent. China responded with 84 percent retaliatory hikes. Hosts Cameron Abadi and Adam Tooze talk about the immediate and long-term impacts of this trade war and look at the possible policy goals …

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EP 187: Phoebe Maltz Bovy on Heteropessimism 29:20

1M ago29:20

29:20

Throughout the Canadian federal election, we’re taking weekly breaks to think and talk about other things. On today’s program, in light of ongoing debates in American pop culture, we’ll be discussing the phenomenon of heteropessimism with a Toronto culture critic who is quite literally writing the book on it. Phoebe Maltz Bovy is a Toronto-based jo…

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EP 186: Election 2025 - Melanie Paradis on Women's Fertility 25:07

1M ago25:07

25:07

Women’s fertility is a third rail in Canadian politics. We all learned this again last week, when Pierre Poilievre made a comment about biological clocks that sparked outrage. If you followed the controversy in the mainstream media only, you might not know that a number of women were glad to see Poilievre raise the issue of fertility — including my…

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The U.S.-China Economic Relationship 42:40

2M ago42:40

42:40

U.S. President Donald Trump’s latest tariffs have raised questions about whether this will be the moment that an all-out trade war breaks out with China. Prior to Trump’s announcement, Adam and Cameron took an overall look at the current economic relationship between the two countries. And thank you to everyone who responded to our pitch for listen…

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EP 185: Adam Gussow on Interracial Family Life in America's South 47:41

2M ago47:41

47:41

During the 2025 Canadian election season, we’ll be pausing from time to time to take a breather and to think about other issues — often interesting new books. My guest on today’s program is a blues musician, a scholar, and a heterodox thinker. He joins us for a conversation about his deeply personal new book on interracial family life in the south.…

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Digitizing the Fisc with Rohan Grey 1:42:53

2M ago1:42:53

1:42:53

Rohan Grey, Assistant Professor of Law at Willamette University, joins Money on the Left to discuss his urgent new paper, "Digitizing the Fisc." During our conversation, we recount the events surrounding Elon Musk & the DOGE boys’ unconstitutional takeover of the Treasury's Bureau of Fiscal Service, while explicating the right-wing theory of the "u…

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EP 184: Election 2025 - Brian Dijkema on the Collapse of Support for the NDP 32:15

2M ago32:15

32:15

One of the big stories in the Canadian federal election so far has been the collapse of support for the NDP. New polling from Ipsos shows support for the party continuing to decline. Our guest on today’s program is a former labour representative — and he has some thoughts on where the traditional party of working people has gone wrong. Brian Dijkem…

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EP 183: Election 2025 - Laurent Carbonneau on Canada's 'Corporate Welfare Bums' 17:48

2M ago17:48

17:48

As election season builds steam, here at Lean Out we are focused on the question of why daily life in Canada has become so expensive and so dysfunctional. My guest on today’s program has some insights to share. He recently wrote a well-researched book on the federal government’s corporate subsidies — which, he says, “exploded in magnitude” under Ju…

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EP 182: Ann Bauer on Booksellers' Moral Contract 29:15

2M ago29:15

29:15

With the Canadian federal election now underway, we’re going to have a lot of political content for you in coming weeks. But today, we wanted to change things up a bit and bring you a lighter story about books — and how hard it is these days to find bookstores that stock a range of different perspectives. Our guest on today’s program argues that bo…

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The Business of Big Law in the United States 45:40

2M ago45:40

45:40

The legal services industry in the United States is a $300 billion business—bigger than any in the world. In recent weeks, U.S. President Donald Trump has targeted parts of the industry to further his own narrow agenda. Adam and Cameron discuss the possible impact. Also on the show: For the first time, Ones and Tooze is asking for listener support.…

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EP 181: Election 2025 - Tom Korski 23:12

2M ago23:12

23:12

After much speculation, Prime Minister Mark Carney has called a snap spring election, and Canadians will be heading to the polls on April 28. To kick off Lean Out’s special election coverage, we bring you a conversation with a veteran Canadian journalist about the unusual moment the country is in — and why, in his view, the current disconnect betwe…

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A Conversation About Abundance 55:59

2M ago55:59

55:59

Adam and Cameron discuss Abundance, the new book by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Foreign Policy

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EP 180: Dave Snow on DEI in Federal Granting Agencies 28:17

2M ago28:17

28:17

In the wake of President Trump’s executive order on DEI, debates in America have renewed a conversation around DEI in this country. And while the baseline value of greater inclusion is one that many of us share, some DEI programs have proven controversial. Our guest on this bonus episode is the author of a recent report that dives into DEI practice…

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EP 179: Andrew Potter on the End of the Trudeau Era 25:02

2M ago25:02

25:02

With Mark Carney in his first week in office as Canada’s new Prime Minister, the Justin Trudeau era is quickly fading in the rearview mirror. But before we move on, it’s important to take stock of what went on in this country during Trudeau’s tenure. Our guest on today’s program says it is time for a national conversation about Trudeau’s legacy. An…

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Trump's Economy 52:31

3M ago52:31

52:31

U.S. President Donald Trump's trade wars and other economic polices since his inauguration in January have helped wipe out some $4 trillion from U.S. stock markets. As of mid-March, the S&P 500 was more than 10 percent below its last record high. The idea some people had that tariffs would just be a threat by Trump, designed to get better trading t…

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EP 178: On the Media with Aaron Pete 1:02:47

3M ago1:02:47

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Regular listeners of the show will recognize the name Aaron Pete. He’s a talented young broadcaster from B.C. who has guest hosted Lean Out from time to time. Last month Aaron invited Tara on his show, the Bigger Than Me podcast, to discuss some of the hot-button issues from the past few years, and how the Canadian media has handled them. Tara enjo…

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Will the United States Go Broke One Day? 59:59

3M ago59:59

59:59

The U.S. budget deficit last year hit $1.8 trillion, bringing the overall level of American debt to some $36 trillion. The Trump administration will surely add to that figure with its plans to make current tax cuts permanent and spend more on the military and immigration enforcement. Is all this debt sustainable? Adam and Cameron discuss. Brought t…

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EP 177: Joanna Williams on Trump and Women's Rights 38:34

3M ago38:34

38:34

On Monday night, American legislation to ban transgender athletes from women’s and girls’ sports in schools was blocked in the Senate. The topic was a sleeper issue in the American election — with polling showing public support for sports participation based on biological sex. Today on the program, in an episode recorded ahead of the Senate vote, w…

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Gaming Money with Raúl Carrillo 1:24:13

3M ago1:24:13

1:24:13

Money on the Left speaks with Raúl Carrillo, assistant professor of Law at Boston College, about gaming money. The $250 billion video game industry (the largest entertainment industry in the world) has rapidly developed an unregulated banking system. As online gaming becomes increasingly social and immersive, players build economies within games. G…

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