Best Herding Code Podcasts (2025)

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D2DO290: AI’s Impact on Developer Productivity Vs. Development Productivity 46:12

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Ned Bellavance and Kyler Middleton are joined by Rachel Stephens, Research Director at RedMonk, to discuss the state of DevOps and the impact of AI. They explore the distinction between developer productivity and development productivity, underlined by a DORA report finding that while AI dramatically boosts individual developer productivity, it oft…

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D2DO289: Instana: Leading the Future of Observability (Sponsored) 37:16

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As AI tools and agentic AI become part of how applications are developed, delivered, and managed, application performance monitoring and observability have to adapt. Ned Bellavance sits down with Drew Flowers and Jacob Yackenovich from IBM Instana about where these fields sit today, and the potential impacts of AI. They detail the challenges of app…

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D2DO288: Technology, Career, and Finding a Purpose with Deana Solis 47:29

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Ned and Kyler sit down with Deana Solis, a freelance FinOps engineer and mentor. They discuss the undervalued skills of communication, look at the inherent biases and misplaced confidence of AI models, and offer guidance for those starting their careers. Deana also talks about her journey to discover the intersection of technology, career, and find…

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D2DO287: Leveling Up in Data Science 37:51

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Ever wonder what it takes to level up your career in data science? Senior Data Scientist Darya Petrashka joins Ned and Kyler to share her personal journey from management and linguistics into data science, the real difference between a junior and a senior role, and helps us get under the “data science umbrella” to see... Read more »…

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D2DO286: Scaling Kubernetes Across Clouds – Identity, DNS, and Security 40:39

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If you think managing Kubernetes clusters is hard, what about managing Kubernetes clusters across three different public clouds? We dive into the challenges that arises from running multi-cloud Kubernetes workloads. These challenges include workload identity, DNS query resolutions, and security. Here to help us navigate this complexity and offer po…

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D2DO285: The Death of IaC Has Been Greatly Exaggerated 39:52

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While declaring the death of Infrastructure as Code (IaC) or Terraform may get you clicks on LinkedIn, IaC is alive and kicking. On today’s Day Two DevOps we talk about why IaC still matters. Guest Malcolm Matalka argues that IaC provides the tools and a model for managing infrastructure across its lifecycle in a structured... Read more »…

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D2DO284: AI, MCP, and the Identities that Tie Them All Together 45:07

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AI is developing at an incredible pace. With that development comes questions. For instance, how do you connect your resources to agents? How do agents connect with each other? And how do you keep it all secure? Our guest Christian Posta is here to guide us through AI, MCP, and the concept of workload identities.... Read more »…

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D2DO283: Lessons Learned When a Startup Doesn’t Take Wing 34:10

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Today we talk to Elad Ben-Israel about his former startup Wing Cloud, and the language that was built along with it, Winglang. We discuss why Eland started Wing Cloud, lessons learned about founding a start up, and what the future holds for the Winglang language. Ad Spot: Faddom Faddom helps you discover and map your... Read more »…

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D2DO282: Simplifying Complex Kubernetes Deployments With kro 30:16

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Kubernetes is flexible and customizable, but it can also be notoriously complex and difficult to deploy to. On today’s Day Two DevOps we learn about kro (Kube Resource Operator), an open-source tool that helps simplify complex application deployments. Our guest is Islam Mahgoub, a Solutions Architect at AWS focused on building kro. We talk about...…

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D2DO281: Faddom: Providing a Unified Source of Truth for Security and IT Operations (Sponsored) 45:13

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Faddom is re-envisioning what application dependency mapping and infrastructure inventory can be in the era of cloud and hybrid IT. Join us today on this sponsored episode as we speak with Faddom’s Itamar Rotem, CPO and Ofer Regev, CTO, about how Faddom’s discovery process can help to improve migrations for any size organization and help... Read mo…

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D2DO280: Architect for Your AI Success With F5 and MinIO (Sponsored) 34:33

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In the changing landscape of AI data infrastructure, F5 and MinIO are partnering on a solution that brings together the best of each company. This solution bookends the AI stack—it uses F5 for reliable, secure, and observable data delivery and MinIO’s AIStor for storage of all data types. The goal is to help organizations be... Read more »…

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D2DO279: Herding the Agentic Geese 40:33

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Developers Rizel Scarlett and Ian Douglas join Ned and Kyler to talk about building an AI agent. Rizel and Ian work at Block, where they’re part of a team building an agent called Goose. They talk about what the agent does, building challenges, observability, and more. They also dive into topics such as how using AI... Read more »…

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D2DO278: The Future of HashiCorp Inside IBM 40:10

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On today’s show, we talk to Armon Dadgar, co-founder and CTO of HashiCorp regarding HashiCorp’s future within IBM. We start with a quick recap of IBM’s acquisition of HashiCorp and then move on to the challenges of bringing a small, young tech company into a huge corporation that makes lots of its revenue on legacy... Read more »…

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D2DO277: AI Security Submissions at Curl Dev 35:10

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Curl is a widely used open source tool and library for transferring data. On today’s Day Two DevOps we talk with curl creator Daniel Stenberg. Daniel gives us a brief history of curl and where it’s used (practically everywhere). We also discuss the impact of AI on curl. Open source projects are often starved for... Read more »…

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D2DO276: MCP: Capable, Insecure, and On Your Network Today 33:47

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MCP, or Model Context Protocol, is an open-source project originally created by Anthropic. MCP is designed to let AI agents to connect to data repositories, applications, business and developer tools, and other agents to execute tasks and carry out instructions. Day Two DevOps explores the capabilities and pitfalls of MCP, how the protocol works, a…

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D2DO275: WebAssembly – The Next Big Thing? 37:00

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Is WebAssembly the next big thing? Here to help us understand what WebAssembly (WASM) is and what it can and can’t do is Michael Levan, a consultant and WASM trainer. He also dives deeper into WASM details such as hosting, security, monitoring, and the ever-present influence of AI. AdSpot: Spacelift Founded by the creator of... Read more »…

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D2DO274: Firefly’s State of IaC Report for 2025, aka ClickOps Is a Disgrace (Sponsored) 39:23

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Firefly is a cloud infrastructure automation platform that helps cloud teams, DevOps, SRE, platform engineering, DevSecOps, and other groups manage their entire cloud as code. Firefly helps to manage cloud complexity and produce consistent and efficient cloud platforms with code. To help Firefly better understand their customers and industry trends…

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D2DO273: Azure VNets Don’t Exist 39:45

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Cloud networks aren’t like traditional data center networks, so applying a traditional network design to the cloud probably isn’t the best idea. On today’s Day Two Cloud, guest Aidan Finn guides us through significant differences between Microsoft Azure networking and on-prem data center networks. For instance, subnets don’t segment hosts, network …

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D2DO272: The Physics of DevOps 39:37

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How do you measure developer performance and productivity? On today’s Day Two DevOps, we look at different methods with guest Laura Tacho, the CTO at DX. We explore industry benchmarks such as the DORA report, SPACE, and DevEx. Laura also introduces us to Core 4, a project she’s been working on that provides a new... Read more »…

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D2DO271: Public Vs. Private Cloud In 2025 38:33

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The shine has been coming off public cloud for awhile. Cloud costs remain high, complexity is growing, and public cloud interoperability is difficult. And while there’s talk about moving back to private cloud, that migration presents its own costs and complexities. To help us navigate the challenge that is cloud in 2025, we welcome Mark... Read mor…

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D2DO270: Spacelift Is Your Infrastructure Glue (Sponsored) 39:51

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Working with multiple Infrastructure as Code (IAC) tools can be painful. Spacelift provides a platform that operates on top of disparate IaC tools, including Ansible, Kubernetes, Pulumi, Terraform, and OpenTofu. Spacelift helps build the automation with and between these tools, creating graphs of graphs that make your dependencies just work. On tod…

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D2DO269: Intergalactic Dataspeak and Making Data Actionable 39:39

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Data and what you do with it is the topic of today’s show with guest Dominic Chapman, the Head of Product at Axiom. Dominic’s career focus is on data, how to store and how to operationalize all the data that different technology stacks create. We talk with Dominic about how the data does not lie,... Read more »…

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D2DO268: Solving Big Problems By Solving Small Problems 40:07

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“You build a shop that solves big problems by solving small problems” is advice given by today’s guest, Merritt Baer. Merritt is currently a CISO at Reco, and has deep security experience in both government and private sectors. She chats with Day Two DevOps podcast hosts Ned Bellavance and Kyler Middleton to discuss the current... Read more »…

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D2DO267: Get Excited About Riding the AI Infrastructure Wave 40:53

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The AI buildout is driving an infrastructure boom. On today’s show, we talk with Kendall Miller, an independent consultant in the DevOps and cloud-native space, about the boom’s potential impacts on DevOps. For instance, the rise of AI workloads will increase the amount of infrastructure to be supported. At the same time, AI tools are... Read more …

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D2DO266: How AI Affects the Developer Experience 43:00

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Let’s talk about how AI affects the developer experience, particularly for open source tools such as Terraform. We’re joined by guests Welly Siauw and Tyler Lynch to examine a project that leverages AI to automate the generation of documentation and examples for AWS Terraform providers. We delve into the iterative development process with AI, the..…

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D2DO265: How Do We Measure Developer Experience? 40:18

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Developer experience is a hard metric to measure qualitatively. On today’s show, we talk with Kristen Foster-Marks about Developer Experience, or DevEx. We start with the controversial concept of “ghost engineering,” which claims many software engineers do not contribute meaningfully to their work. We delve into the validity of this claim, and disc…

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D2DO264: Serverless Goes Mainstream 38:40

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Serverless is mature enough now to be a mainstream choice for application development. But that doesn’t mean interesting things aren’t happening. Benjamen Pyle joins Kyler and Ned on Day Two DevOps to talk about the potential for small vendors and startups to develop high-quality services purpose-built to solve specific problems. They also discuss …

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D2DO263: An Anthropologist’s Advice for Improving IT Cultures 45:23

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It’s tempting to run IT organizations the same way we run infrastructure: as resource units to be applied to various jobs. But people aren’t infrastructure. They have opinions. They form teams. They operate on different incentives, which sometimes clash within an organization (i.e. sales vs. product managers, or infosec vs. everybody). Today’s gues…

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Have You Herd About Wildlife Ecology? 52:32

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Hey there, Herders! We are back with a special episode on Wildlife Ecology! Can you believe it's been three years since our first episode? It has been a wild ride and we are so thankful for everyone who has been with us since the start! This episode is about Wildlife Ecology and our special guest, Christy!…

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D2DO262: The Science and Magic of Network Mapping and Measurement 38:40

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Measuring network speed seems straightforward: send some traffic between two endpoints and see how long it took. But what path did the traffic take? Were wired or wireless networks involved? What intermediary devices stood between your two endpoints? Was there interference? Congestion? Are device limitations affecting your results? The fact is, the…

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D2DO261: Year in Review: Peak Serverless, K8s Complexity, DevOps Sprawl (and What’s Next) 41:48

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Join us today for a look back at this year’s developments in cloud security and DevOps. We ask if serverless computing has peaked, why Kubernetes continues to be so hard, whether cloud repatriation is a real trend, and whether the DevOps role has become too darn big. We also explore the future of cloud computing,... Read more »…

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D2DO260: Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs: Humor and Threat Detection 34:32

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Humor is the best medicine, so they say. In critical IT security jobs, a little humor could help you prevent burnout and maintain your mental equilibrium. Lydia Graslie, a Cloud Threat Detection Engineer at Edward Jones, shares her insights on the complexities of cloud security and the challenges posed by modern cloud platforms, as well... Read mor…

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Have You Herd About Nessy? 17:55

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The last episode of Season 8 everyone and it's about the famous Lochness Monster! The Loch Ness Monster (Scottish Gaelic: Uilebheist Loch Nis), also known as Nessie, is a mythical creature in Scottish folklore that is said to inhabit Loch Ness in the Scottish Highlands. It is often described as large, long-necked, and with one or more humps protrud…

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Have You Herd About Aardvark? 12:15

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Sorry for the late post, Herders! The holidays have been a real long one! Today's episode is about the Aardvarks! Aardvarks (/ˈɑːrdvɑːrk/ ARD-vark; Orycteropus afer) are medium-sized, burrowing, nocturnal mammals native to Africa. They have a long snout, similar to that of a pig, which is used to sniff out food. Aardvarks are the only living specie…

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D2DO259: See Deep Inside Public Cloud for Greater Visibility and Troubleshooting with ThousandEyes Cloud Insights (Sponsored) 33:14

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Public cloud networks can be a bit of a black box when it comes to monitoring and troubleshooting. Today on Day Two DevOps we talk with sponsor Cisco ThousandEyes about its Cloud Insights tool, which aims to open that box so you can see exactly what’s going on in your cloud networks, identify problems, help... Read more »…

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D2DO258: How System Initiative Rethinks Infrastructure as Code 45:05

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System Initiative is a new product that aims to improve on Infrastructure as Code (IaC). On today’s episode we talk with System Initiative creator Adam Jacob to find out why he wanted to improve on IaC, how System Initiative works, how it compares to other platforms in the market, how it handles key features such... Read more »…

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Have You Herd About Pangolins? 13:16

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Welcome back, Herders! We have a wonderful episode on the critically endangered Pangolins and we want you to hear all about them! Pangolins, sometimes known as scaly anteaters, are mammals of the order Pholidota (/fɒlɪˈdoʊtə/). The one extant family, the Manidae, has three genera: Manis, Phataginus, and Smutsia. Manis comprises four species found i…

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Have You Herd About Kangaroos? 13:51

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Welcome back to the Kangaroo episode! Kangaroos are marsupials from the family Macropodidae (macropods, meaning "large foot"). In common use the term is used to describe the largest species from this family, the red kangaroo, as well as the antilopine kangaroo, eastern grey kangaroo, and western grey kangaroo.Kangaroos are indigenous to Australia a…

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D2DO257: Love is in the Firmware 42:21

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With the current cultural emphasis on AI and how that is changing our world, we often forget the human element of individuals and teams when building an effective software development team. On today’s Day Two DevOps, we explore the psychology behind software teams, psychological safety for those teams and how the advent of AI plays... Read more »…

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Have You Herd About Opossums? 14:13

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Welcome back Herders! The next episode on Opossums (/əˈpɒsəmz/) are members of the marsupial order Didelphimorphia endemic to the Americas. The largest order of marsupials in the Western Hemisphere, it comprises 126 species in 18 genera. Opossums originated in South America and entered North America in the Great American Interchange following the c…

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D2DO256: Alkira’s Universal Transit: Simplifying Hybrid & Multi-Cloud Networks (Sponsored) 39:15

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We are firmly entrenched in a hybrid cloud world, from on-prem data centers to multiple cloud platforms to branch and remote offices, not to mention wandering end users connecting via VPN. While the network is the common substrate among all these locations, every cloud provider has its own network implementation. Managing, monitoring and securing a…

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Have You Herd About Ogre Faced Spider? 9:42

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SPOOKY TIME HERDERS. Welcome back to the episode that will give you the willies! Deinopis, also known as net-casting spiders, gladiator spiders and ogre-faced spiders,[2] is a genus of net-casting spiders that was first described by W. S. MacLeay in 1839.[3] Its distribution is widely tropical and subtropical. They catch their prey using a speciall…

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D2DO255: Is AI the Magic Solution for Refactoring Legacy Code? 37:58

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AI is being integrated and adopted across much of the IT world, but can it work magic in transforming old legacy code into shiny modern code? When it comes to this magic trick, it’s important to look behind the curtain. On today’s Day Two DevOps podcast we discuss the reality of AI in refactoring code... Read more »…

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Have You Herd About Squirrels? 18:30

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Welcome back Herders to Sam and Tyler talking about Squirrels! Squirrels are members of the family Sciuridae (/sɪˈjuːrɪdeɪ, -diː/), a family that includes small or medium-sized rodents. The squirrel family includes tree squirrels, ground squirrels (including chipmunks and prairie dogs, among others), and flying squirrels. Squirrels are indigenous t…

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D2DO254: Intelligent Data Infrastructure: How NetApp Builds for Performance, Security, and Visibility across Clouds (Sponsored) 35:06

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Enterprise data is everywhere: on prem, at the edge, and across the public cloud. Storing and managing that data involves more than just SSDs and spinning disks; it’s about building and operating a data infrastructure. On today’s Day Two DevOps podcast, host Ned Bellavance explores the idea of data infrastructure with Jeff Baxter, VP of... Read mor…

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Have You Herd About Rhinos? 18:04

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Welcome back to the 73rd episode of "Have You Herd About Animals?" and the episode is on RHINOOOOOOOOOOO'S. Rhinos are one of the Big Five animals popular in African safaris, but they also live in Asia and even lived in Europe in the past. There are currently five different species of rhino—two in Africa and three in Asia. All rhinos are famed for …

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D2DO253: Breaking Into Tech: Job Hunting Realities for Recent Graduates 45:46

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Job hunting is never easy and on today’s Day Two Cloud, Katrina Janeczko shares her journey from college to her current role at Comcast. Katrina discusses the challenges of job hunting, the relevance of her education, and the impact of AI tools on her learning process. She also talks about the importance of networking, mentorship,... Read more »…

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Have You Herd About Wolves? 18:07

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Ahwooooooooo there Herders, and welcome back the wolves episode! We have been holding off on all the good episodes for when the deployment ended! Wolf, any of two species of wild doglike carnivores. The gray, or timber, wolf (Canis lupus) is the better known. It is the largest nondomestic member of the dog family (Canidae) and inhabits vast areas o…

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Have You Herd About Rats? 18:30

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Welcome back to Season 8 Herders! We have been gone for some time and we are coming back strong with Rats! Please keep sending us emails of the animals you want to hear, we love getting requests! The term generally and indiscriminately applied to numerous members of several rodent families having bodies longer than about 12 cm, or 5 inches. (Smalle…

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D2DO252: (Re)Building Cloudflare’s Millions-of-Logs-Per-Second Logging Pipeline 37:53

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Cloudflare’s transition from SysLog-NG to OpenTelemetry is the topic of discussion on this episode of Day Two DevOps. Guests Colin Douch and Jayson Cena from Cloudflare explain the reasons behind the migration, including the need for better scalability, memory safety, and maintainability. They delve into challenges such as ensuring uninterrupted cu…