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The Hairdresser Strong Show

Hatching Imagination, LLC

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The Hairdresser Strong Show is all about Salon Owners, Rising Stylists, and Seasoned Stylists sharing their experiences, successes, failures, and advice to inform, educate, and empower their Fellow Hairdresser. We won’t stop until we are all: Hairdresser Strong.⁠
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Do you remember the first time you saw a dinosaur? Whether in a movie or a museum, action figures or adventures and fantasy, each of us has a connection to these colossal creatures. Kids grow out of the sandbox, and adults trade prehistoric titans for modern challenges. But deep down in our hearts, there is a spark of imagination and wonder, like an ancient egg waiting to hatch. Here’s where we begin, because no matter what you do, where you’re from, or how old you are... Dinosaurs Will Alwa ...
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The Leader’s Way

Berkeley Divinity School at Yale

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A spirituality podcast for people who aren’t ready to give up on the world, The Leader’s Way features conversations with intellectual entrepreneurs at the intersection of leadership, spirituality, and theology. This podcast is hosted by Executive Director of Leadership Dr. Brandon Nappi ’01 MDiv and guest hosts Misty Krasawski ’26 MDiv and Whitney Kimball Coe ’26 MDiv. It is brought to you by Berkeley Divinity School, the Episcopal seminary at Yale.
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In this episode, learn how purpose-driven leadership, mentorship, and community-building can transform businesses, lives, and the future of the beauty industry with Beauty Gives Back Co-Founders Mireya Villarreal & Julie Hightower Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear? Leave us a review! KEY TAK…
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In this episode, Michelle Snyder, author, therapist, leadership coach, and the executive director of Soul Shop, speaks directly to faith leaders about the importance of talking about and tending to suicide in our communities, and training for the work of suicide prevention. Michelle talks with Brandon, Whitney, and Misty about the moment we are in,…
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In this episode, Irish theologian, storyteller, poet, conflict mediator, and host of the podcast Poetry Unbound Pádraig Ó Tuama speaks of the thrilling notion that “all language can do the work of delight or terror in us.” In this conversation, Leader’s Way hosts talk with Pádraig about the complex relationship between poetry and prayer, the timele…
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Financial advisor Kevin Caldwell shares the money moves every beauty business owner needs to know—from separating personal and business finances to building an emergency fund, leveraging fractional CFOs, and mastering cash flow so your salon can thrive today and in the future. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released.…
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In this episode, Jake Sturm—salon owner, educator, and brand ambassador—opens up about the realities of salon ownership, the resilience it took to overcome personal and professional challenges, and how building authentic relationships has shaped his journey beyond the chair. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. L…
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From the barber chair to the tech world, Dorian shares how he turned a gap in the booking app market into Cutnova—a platform blending appointments with community to help barbers grow, connect, and thrive. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear? Leave us a review! KEY TAKEAWAYS: 🔅Identify gaps in …
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In this special summer episode, Brandon Nappi interviews The Rev’d Adrian Dannhauser, Rector of Church of the Incarnation in New York City and author of Ask Me for a Blessing (You Know You Need One). Adrian and Brandon dive into spiritual call and spiritual practice—from silent retreats to evangelism to the spiritual courage it takes to pray for ot…
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Industry veteran Jeremy Stephens shares how he built a thriving salon and long-term brand partnerships with names like BaBylissPRO and Living Proof—offering a blueprint for stylists who want to grow in and beyond the chair. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear? Leave us a review! KEY TAKEAWAYS:…
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What do church mission, governance, and high school theater have in common? Brandon and Hannah talk with The Rev’d Molly James, PhD., Interim Executive Officer at The Episcopal Church and Berkeley Divinity at Yale alum (’05), about the ways Church mission and institutional governance weave together to strengthen the work of The Episcopal Church. Li…
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Entrepreneur, CEO, and Co-Founder Dharmendra Manwani shares the startup journey behind ArtistOnGo, offering a real-world look at how to turn an idea into a product—through validation, iteration, and solving the right problem at the right time. ArtistOnGo is a business in a box solution for beauty and wellness professionals empowering them with all …
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In this episode, Salon owner and business coach Kat Scott shares how she went from burned out in traditional salons to thriving as the owner of a micro salon—and what stylists need to consider before jumping into salon suites or opening a space of their own. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear…
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In this episode, Brandon talks with New York Times bestselling author, public theologian, preacher, and founder of Sojourners, The Rev’d Jim Wallis. Their conversation explores the theological implications of authoritarianism, new frames for understanding church unity, and the difference between optimism and hope. Host: Brandon Nappi Guest: Jim Wal…
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In this episode, Diane Cole Stevens—CEO of Cole Stevens Salon—shares how she built a high-performing team, established white-glove systems, and grew a brand rooted in excellence, mentorship, and leadership that scales. 🚨Diane will also be a Panelist at our upcoming Beauty Business Brunch on July 27th in Washington, DC. Use this link to learn more, …
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Cameron Moore reveals how she turned a passion into a growing hair business—balancing school, marketing work, and a passion for empowering others through braiding and beauty. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear? Leave us a review! KEY TAKEAWAYS: 🔅Cameron taught herself how to braid during the …
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Futurist and Berkeley Divinity at Yale alum Rachel Hatch (‘08) joins Brandon and Hannah for a conversation about how to look for signals of change within our own parishes and communities as we make thoughtful choices for the future. In this episode, Rachel encourages leaders to cultivate a practice of imagining possibilities and taking steps toward…
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Hospitality expert Daniel Samir shares what today’s customers really want, how COVID reshaped service expectations, and the lessons salon professionals can take from the restaurant world. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear? Leave us a review! KEY TAKEAWAYS: 🔅Clear communication and setting ex…
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In this episode, Jared Scott—barber, business owner, and board member—breaks down the real-life lessons from two decades in the industry, from building clientele and opening a shop to redefining what ownership can look like through micro-shop/salon suites. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear? …
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From cutting hair in his basement to building barbershops, colleges, and launching a credit union, Larry E. Roberts Jr. shares how grit, vision, and community-first leadership transformed his career—and how barbers and stylists can build sustainable wealth and impact too. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like…
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From barber school to celebrity clients to shop owner and educator, Phillip Dawson shares how he built his career from the ground up—and gives real talk on what students need to succeed after graduation. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear? Leave us a review! KEY TAKEAWAYS: 🔅Phillip Dawson’s j…
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Hannah has news, and you have new friends! Tune in to meet guest hosts Whitney and Misty as they join Brandon in interviewing Hannah for our season finale. Why is Gregory of Nyssa’s take on salvation so different from what Hannah heard in church growing up? Are there risks in the regular ways we talk about Christian salvation? How did feminist theo…
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The penultimate episode of season 4 is here, and it's with someone we know you'll love, @bishopmello of @episcopal_ct!! Tune in to hear about how Jeff Mello's experience in social work impacts his ministry, how a posture of curiosity and willingness to fail are key, and at the very end, hear all about Bishop Jeff Mello as a person when we play our …
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From salon assistant to She-E-O of 7 salon concepts, a bridal agency, and an event space, Dana Fountain shares the scrappy, strategic moves that helped her build a beauty empire from the ground up. In this episode, she breaks down how to calculate your financial needs, grow without debt, choose the right business partners, and turn relationships in…
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Join co-hosts Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black in an engaging episode of The Leaders Way as they sit down with Linn Tonstad, Professor of Theology, Religion, and Sexuality at Yale Divinity School. In this episode, Tonstad shares her unique perspective on queer theology and how it relates to potential for social transformation. Perfect for Pride Month…
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After transitioning from beauty school to working in salon environments for 7 years, Shantel Phillips shares how she built deep client relationships and made the leap into suite ownership, offering real talk on what it takes to succeed at every stage. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear? Leave…
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Dean Andrew McGowan joins us to further unpack shifting dynamics, changing landscapes, and the future after addressing the topic at the Episcopal Parish Network (EPN) conference. McGowan describes his observations of Australian secularization and how he sees similar dynamics arising in the United States. We talk about why church attendance is chang…
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💬 This isn’t just another podcast…we’re releasing our 3/28 Community Conversation from Instagram Live. In this special Community Conversation, Jenae, a recent Aveda Grad, shares how shadowing in real salon environments gave her clarity, self-assurance, and insight she didn’t get in the classroom. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new ep…
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THE Father Lizzie is back on The Leader's Way podcast, talking about her new devotional God Didn't Make Us to Hate Us. We talk about the alternative to "billboard Christianity" and how an expansive, inclusive God affects individual spirituality and corporate worship in church. Finally, the Golden Retriever Games are back, baby. Stay 'till the end f…
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Tariffs, Recession, Expanding your Business, Inflation Employment Trends, and Consumer Trends This conversation explores various economic trends affecting consumers and businesses, focusing on the shift towards skilled trades, the impact of inflation, recession fears, and the importance of mental health in the workplace. It also delves into luxury …
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💬 This isn’t just another podcast…we’re releasing our 3/25 Community Conversation from Instagram Live with Diana Varvaro (School Director at Paul Mitchell the School NYC) and Frank Bennett (Co-Founder & Hair Coloring Director at A.F. Bennett Salon & Wellness Spa) In this special Community Conversation, Diana Varvaro and Frank Bennett share real-wor…
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In this episode, Nick Stenson, Brand Founder & CEO of Nick Stenson Beauty, shares his journey from stylist to executive to entrepreneur—offering real-world insights on brand building, navigating uncertainty, and creating meaningful impact in the beauty industry. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you …
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In this episode, Jenna Stakias, CEO & Founder of The True Empire, shares her top tools, trends, and strategies to help beauty pros and content creators elevate their social media game—without the overwhelm. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear? Leave us a review! KEY TAKEAWAYS: 🔅Diversify your …
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Yale Divinity School Professor Teresa Morgan shares her expertise about the Greek word “pistis,” often translated in the New Testament as “faith.” The conversation revolves around faith, trust, and faithfulness and touches on the importance of a nuanced understanding of atonement theology. Brandon challenges Morgan and Black to “Gregory or Gregory?…
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Ellen Crupi of HabitAware joins us to share how stylists can recognize and compassionately support clients dealing with trichotillomania and other body-focused repetitive behaviors—offering tools, hope, and healing behind the chair. Follow/subscribe to be the first to know when new episodes are released. Like what you hear? Leave us a review! KEY T…
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What does it take to go full-time in a suite? Tiffany Anyanwu breaks it down—from balancing side gigs and budgeting wisely to setting boundaries and nurturing client relationships that go deeper than hair. Her journey is a real look at the hard work behind building something of your own in today’s beauty industry. Follow/subscribe to be the first t…
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The Rev'd John Burruss (The Leader's Way ’23 Fellow) and the Rev'd Mary Bea Sullivan join hosts Hannah Black and Brandon Nappi to tell the story of the Threshold Center, a vibrant space designed to address loneliness and foster connection in Birmingham, Alabama. Born from a tragic event in the life of St. Stephen's Episcopal Church, the Threshold C…
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Trump Tariffs = Uncertainty around Inflation + Slowing Interest Rate Cuts! What do we do during uncertain times? How are our customers feeling? + A special fun story to change the subject from Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt! Check out this week's news updates, build Strong Business, and serve your customers better! Takeaways: 📉 Stock Market & Economy…
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April is Stress Awareness Month, making it the perfect time to rethink how we handle pressure behind the chair. Tune in to hear Dr. Rebecca Heiss, a stress physiologist and author, break down the science of stress, revealing how hairstylists can reframe pressure and turn stress into a tool for success in a fast-paced, client-focused industry. 🔔Foll…
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💬 This isn’t just another podcast…we’re releasing our 3/12 Community Conversation from Instagram Live with Ashleigh Taylor of Taylor and York Salon in Washington, DC. The DMV is changing fast—layoffs, inflation, and uncertainty are on everyone’s mind, including our clients. As hairstylists, we’re not just service providers; we’re trusted confidants…
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In this episode, Dr. Adrin Seven Washington—celebrity stylist, educator, and business strategist—shares how he built a career working with top names like Patti LaBelle and Naomi Campbell while earning a doctorate in cosmetology. We discuss the importance of education, networking, finding your niche, and creating multiple income streams to achieve l…
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Bishop Graham Kings, Honorary Assistant Bishop in the Diocese of Ely and Research Associate of the Cambridge Centre for Christianity Worldwide, joins us to delve into the possibilities of engaging creativity in ministry. We discuss the power of collaboration with artists, crafting liturgical celebrations, his project on women in the Bible, how to s…
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What does it really take to help new stylists succeed? In this episode, Wayne White—hairstylist, educator, and former Marine—shares his insights on mentorship, patience, and the challenges facing new professionals in the beauty industry. We discuss how to bridge the gap between school and real-world success, why so many stylists struggle with anxie…
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From apprentice to President of John Paul Mitchell Systems, Jason Yates' journey is proof that hard work, humility, and seizing the right opportunities can lead to incredible success. In this episode, Jason shares his insights on leadership, career growth, and why the beauty industry is as resilient as ever. 🔔Follow/subscribe to be the first to kno…
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On Being host Krista Tippett reflects on her career and tells stories never before heard on air. She contemplates her grandfather's spirituality, what she was looking for when she decided to come to Yale Divinity School, the need she saw for intelligent public conversation about spirituality and religion, and the birth story of Speaking of Faith (l…
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Join us for a thought-provoking conversation with Steve Reiss, Executive Director of Industry Relations & Insights at Pivot Point International , as we explore the evolving landscape of beauty education, the power of mentorship, and why the future of the beauty industry depends on shifting perceptions and investing in the next generation. 🔔Follow/s…
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Inflation is scary and likely to not give up in the near term. Trump's government is slashing government jobs and spending, which is definitely not going to help the economy in the near term. Ultimately, I share findings from a study on Gen-Z and how they think about leadership! Check out this week's news updates, build Strong Business, and serve y…
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Join us for a special episode with Aryn Detres, Founder of The Left Brain Group and The Hair Index, as she champions the rise of independent education in the beauty industry. Discover how indie educators are reshaping the landscape, creating community, and offering accessible learning experiences outside of major brands. 🔔Follow/subscribe to be the…
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Barbering isn’t just about cutting hair—it’s about perseverance, resilience, and putting in the work. In this episode, Sam Nolan shares his inspiring journey from struggling student to successful barber, shop manager, and educator. We dive into the real challenges of the industry, from overcoming setbacks to building a loyal clientele, mastering th…
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The Rev'd Dr. Jesse Zink, Principal at Montreal Diocesan Theological College, joins us to discuss living faithfully in our fast-paced, crisis-shaped world. We talk about his new book, Faithful, Creative, Hopeful: Fifteen Theses for Christians in a Crisis-Shaped World, and we reflect on insights like fostering a culture of contentment and enoughness…
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This special episode continues our real-time docuseries with Brianne and Jessica of Darling Nikki Salon as they share what it’s really like to open and grow a salon from scratch. From their grand opening to hiring their first stylists and building a community, we dive into their early challenges, big wins, and next steps on their salon journey. 👀Mi…
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The Very Rev. Dr. Michael Battle shares insights from the first volume, "Faith," in the new series Conversations in Global Anglican Theology. He helps us explore the fascinating transition of the Anglican Church from being the church of the establishment to becoming the church of advocacy. He also shares his insights on faith, culture, activism, an…
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