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TechMagic with Cathy Hackl helps you navigate the future and make sense of today’s rapid technological change. Hear unique perspectives, explore new trends, and journey into the heart of technology. TechMagic is a must-listen for anyone passionate about the future of tech because Arthur C. Clarke said it best: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Future Insiders Podcast has a new name! It is now the Future of the Metaverse Podcast with Cathy Hackl. Whether you’re a techie or traditionalist, get ready to see the future! Cathy has been to the far frontiers of tech and with this podcast will present the possibilities of the tomorrows that are actually happening today by discussing the latest news from the world of the metaverse(s), emerging tech and bringing you the insiders who are making it happen.
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There is more to being a boss than meets the eye. Behind the BOSS is a podcast that journeys into the lives of inspiring creators, artists, and athletes, unearthing the pivotal moments and turning points that shaped them into some of today’s greatest bosses.
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The Wadeoutthere Fly Fishing Podcast

Jason Shemchuk, Wadeoutthere

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Fly fishing artist and writer Jason Shemchuk talks with other fly fishers about their unique journey into fly fishing, the rivers they fish, and the tactics and philosophies they practice. For those who can never leave the river in their hearts, this podcast is dedicated to providing tools and ideas that help make a great fly fisher and better prepare us to make memories on the water that keep us coming back to Wadeoutthere.
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RESET with Joel Comm is a conversation for anyone who’s ever had life fall apart and wondered what comes next. Every episode begins the same way: with one honest, disarming question that cuts straight to the truth. No bios. No hype. No small talk. Just two humans talking about the moments that broke them, the choices that reshaped them, and the wisdom they wish they’d had sooner. Joel Comm—author, creator, and lifelong reinventor—invites guests to share the resets that changed everything: di ...
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Masked Gorilla is an underground rap blog, concert series, and record label that has been introducing you to your favorite emerging artists since 2009, now in podcast form. You can also watch these interviews on Masked Gorilla's YouTube channel.
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Marjy Marj - Ghanaian-American author, visionary, and consultant chats with guests about everyday issues impacting humans. For your weekly dose of inspiration, motivation, or human interest stories, listen to Humanity Chats.
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Exponential Africa

Be Exponential

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Exponential Africa podcast brings you the best thought leadership and innovation from around the world. Hosted by Mic Mann, this podcast aims to bring you impactful knowledge and ideas featuring discussions around exponential technologies, disruption, and how to leverage cutting-edge ideas to future-proof your business. Mic interviews and discusses the future of technologies such as Artificial Intelligence, Robotics, 3d Printing, IoT, Biotechnology and more, as well as global grand challenge ...
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Not every journey starts with a destination. This podcast is for those seeking an exciting ride to discover new horizons. This is “Changing Lanes,” the official podcast from BMW. Each new season provides a unique experience with innovative audio formats, trendsetting topics, and insightful guests. Tune in to discover more of the BMW universe, sustainable lifestyles, the newest luxury visions, and the most eco-friendly cars. Subscribe to the BMW podcast series to dive deeper into the world of ...
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In this Greatest Hits episode of Tech Magic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest tech developments, from Meta's bold moves in AR to Apple's Vision Pro journey one year later. They highlight Meta's success with Ray-Ban AI glasses, Apple’s challenges in AR innovation, and how creators are evolving into media moguls. Cathy also inter…
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In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl is joined by Samantha G Wolfe, founder of PitchFWD and NYU adjunct professor, to explore how AI and emerging tech are redefining relationships. From AI-generated love letters to dating in virtual environments, they examine the evolving boundaries between authentic connection and digital c…
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In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee dive into the cutting edge of spatial computing, AI, and extended reality. Join Cathy and Adam as they unpack Meta’s XR partnership with Palmer Luckey, Snap’s smart glasses ambitions, and Apple’s sleek AR design strategy. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe co…
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Andrew Kangas from Cameron, Montana. Andrew grew up in Michigan, learning to fish with conventional gear and dabbling in fly fishing with a fly rod he picked up at a neighborhood garage sale. When a family friend living in Montana invited his family to stay with her for a trip to Yellowstone Park, Andrew saw it …
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What do you do when everything in your life looks “good”… but inside, something still feels off? In this raw, unscripted conversation, Ray Edwards and I talk honestly about depression, faith, aging, purpose, dopamine crashes, and the strange comfort of staying in a dark place—even when you know how to get out. This isn’t a how-to episode. There are…
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee unpack the rapid shifts transforming AI, hardware, and creative industries. Cathy is away this week and will be back in the new year. Lee and Adam explore how RAM manufacturers are pivoting away from consumer electronics toward AI, and how this will spike gaming and device prices i…
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Jeremy Nolan from Durango, Colorado. Jeremy moved to Colorado over twenty five years ago to pursue his passion for skiing and mountain biking while attending college. One of the texts he picked up was an Orvis book on fly fishing. Soon he and his friends were fishing the San Juan River and learning as they went,…
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What does a life well lived actually look like? At 75, Ken McArthur has already lived more careers than most people have jobs: computer programmer calculating orbits for NASA, pet store owner, police officer, rock musician, studio owner, film producer, community builder, and now the founder of a new AI-powered platform for human connection. In this…
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore how the future of AI is being shaped through hardware innovation happening around the world. They break down breakthroughs in autonomous vehicles, humanoid robots, and spatial computing, highlighting why hardware ownership now determines who controls data, training models, and l…
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Tyler Mills from St.Paul, Minnesota. Tyler grew up gear fishing with his friends and family in upstate New York, spending nearly every day of the summer on the St. Lawrence River. It didn’t take long for Tyler to find fly fishing, which he took with him to Seattle where he worked in the snowboard industry. When …
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler break down the biggest shifts shaping tech, entertainment, and personal branding. They explore emerging trends, from real-world experiences like Beastland, to the growing influence of spatial computing, and why authentic human content is becoming a premium as AI saturation rises. In the…
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Tim Nation, from Kammas Utah. Tim grew up in Illinois in a family where hunting and fishing was a way of life. He found himself uniquely drawn to the fly rod, and it soon became his favorite way to catch fish. It has been his passion ever since. Tim spent much of his time as a teenager honing his fly fishing ski…
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When you hit rock bottom in midlife, you face a choice: crumble or rebuild. In this raw, unfiltered conversation, Brian G. Johnson opens up about the moment his life collapsed — the divorce, the identity crisis, the loneliness, and the painful process of starting over at 50. No intros. No bio. No fluff. We jump straight into the truth. We talk abou…
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AI is booming, VR is evolving, and AR is exploding into the real world—but most of it still feels underwhelming. On this week’s episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler welcomes Andrew Schwartz while host Cathy Hackl is away. Andrew is the Director of Metaverse Engineering at Nike, and together, they unpack the realities behind today’s AI hype cycle, …
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Caleb Andrews, from Charleston, South Carolina. Caleb fell in love with fly fishing early in life and continued to fly fishing during college in Tennessee while pursuing a degree in material science and engineering. Although Caleb had always envisioned using his degree to land a job in the outdoor industry, he e…
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As AI systems start rewriting their own code and sanitising negative news about themselves, the line between control and autonomy is blurring. In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the unsettling rise of AI self-management, Google’s growing edge over OpenAI through real-world data, and the “AI slop spiral” threateni…
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Jon Lee from Kalamazoo, Michigan. Jon grew up in southwest Michigan, just outside of Kalamazoo. He was introduced to fly fishing on the Pere Marquette River as a teenager, spending time with his great uncle, and slowly embracing the value of learning over catching. As a child, Jon would search through magazines …
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In July 1995, I launched my first website — WorldVillage.com — one of the earliest family-friendly destinations for software reviews, games, and educational content. Built on curiosity and a love for the web, WorldVillage became one of the first 20,000 sites ever created. Within a year, we had nearly a million visitors. But as the years passed and …
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What if your biggest opportunity is something you can’t see yet? In this episode, I share a story that changed the course of my life — the moment someone else spotted potential in me that I couldn’t see myself. Back in college, I loved music but never thought about being on the radio. Until one day, my stepmom said a single sentence that opened a w…
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore OpenAI’s Sora and how AI-driven video generation reshapes creativity, privacy, and consent. From OpenAI’s massive $38B AWS deal to the ethical storm over data scraping and copyright, they unpack the week’s biggest tech power plays. The duo explores Geoffrey Hinton’s surprising o…
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Mickey Anderson, from Salt Lake City, Utah. Mickey grew up in Utah, and was introduced to fly fishing on a trip into the Uinta Mountains with his wrestling team in high school. He went on to work in the fly fishing industry as an early fly shop owner with Anglers Den and later Fish Tech. He has been teaching and…
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Before I ever had a website, I was already running what I like to call my first “Internet” business — years before most people had even heard of the Internet. It started with an idea: a one-man software review magazine for the Dallas/Fort Worth area. I wrote it, designed it in Aldus PageMaker, printed it, and bundled it with floppy disks full of sh…
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Before the World Wide Web, I was on six different commercial online services. How many of them were you on, or do you even remember? In this show I walk down memory lane to recount the services and what I recall about them. Watch this to see how many you remember! For the video version of this show, visit http://youtube.com/joelcomm See omnystudio.…
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A long, long time ago, I purchased my first computer. It was a TRS-80 Model 1 with 4K of RAM. Today I look at that purchase through the lens of modern computing power. What was YOUR first computer? Let me know in the comments! And oops... I plugged my microphone in, but NOT into the iPhone! Sorry for the background noise. I'll try to do it right in…
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I’ve been making videos online for two decades. My first YouTube video posted in 2006. And for quite some time I posted candid videos designed to speak directly to my audience. My “Walking with Joel” series was both a live video and then posted to YouTube. They were unedited and not produced. I really enjoyed doing them and the feedback was already…
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the fascinating, funny, and sometimes unsettling intersection between humans and machines. From Cathy’s “shopping date” with humanoid robot Maximus to Amazon’s ambitious plans to automate its warehouses, the hosts unpack how AI and robotics are reshaping work and daily life. The…
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Piper Nunn from Fort Collins, CO. Piper grew up in Colorado, spending time alone on the river even before she found fishing. It was after she began working in a local bagel shop in Fort Collins, that her co-workers talked her into giving fly fishing a shot. She loved it from day one, and from then on, much of he…
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl (yep, she’s back) and Lee Kebler open Pandora’s box - the tech edition. This episode’s all about navigating tech disruptions and learning to roll with the punches. From the AWS outage and OpenAI's controversial content policies, to Sora's impact on content creation, Pinterest's AI content controls, an…
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Eric Naguski from Boiling Springs Pennsylvania. Eric’s earliest memories all involve fishing. He fell in love with the idea of problem solving from the beginning, catching fish from the dock of his father’s sailboat in Maryland. A cousin gave him a fly rod and thus began his lifelong love of fly fishing. After c…
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee explore the evolving intersection of AI, creativity, and ethics. Cathy is away this week and will rejoin the show next week. Meanwhile, Lee and Adam delve into OpenAI’s Sora 2 and its implications for digital rights, content authenticity, and ethical innovation. The hosts examine N…
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Nick Teynor, from Salt Lake City, Utah. When Nick was a child his family road tripped from Maryland to Washington State for his father’s job transfer. Along the way, he was introduced to fly fishing, while watching drift boats out the car window in the Rocky Mountains. A stop at the family’s cabin in Montana sea…
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the week’s biggest tech stories, from OpenAI’s latest announcements and Sora’s deepfake potential to Meta’s sold-out Ray-Ban smart glasses. They explore how AI integrations with platforms like Coursera, Canva, and Zillow could reshape how we access and trust information. The host…
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler delve into the latest developments in tech, from Meta’s hardware updates to AI advancements and parental controls. Cathy interviews Tom Acland, CEO at Dassault Systèmes 3DEXCITE. Learn how the Apple Vision Pro is transforming enterprise collaboration and why we're finally reaching the t…
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In this episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler is joined by Nic Hill, co-founder and Chief Innovation Officer of Sawhorse Productions, to explore the latest tech developments shaping our digital world. Together, they break down Meta Connect’s memorable moments and mobile-first pivot with Horizon Worlds, Intel’s surprising $5B partnership with NVIDIA…
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What does seamless really mean when it comes to the future of driving? In this fourth episode of Inside Neue Klasse, Nicki Shields meets BMW experts Marcel Ottmann, Head of User Interface Design Systems, and Daniel Fischer, Senior Creative Technologist, live at the 2025 IAA Mobility in Munich. Together, they explore how design and technology conver…
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Organizations must adapt faster than ever, exponential change demands new leadership mindsets. Explore frameworks for leading through AI, robotics, and spatial computing. Learn how to cultivate resilience and agility under disruption Gain tools to inspire teams and build stakeholder trustBy Be Exponential
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of hardware innovation, from Meta’s anticipated Connect event to Nintendo’s bold gaming moves. They unpack Meta’s AI-powered smart glasses collaborations, Amazon’s push into wearable tech, and Nintendo’s surprising Virtual Boy revival. Alongside hardware news, Cathy a…
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On the 64th episode of the Masked Gorilla Podcast, host Roger Gengo interviews Donegal, Ireland born, Los Angeles based, singer-songwriter Sign Crushes Motorist about his upbringing, getting into music, blowing up on Tik Tok, moving to Los Angeles and much more. Midway through the interview Roger is introduced to multi-hyphenate Jordan Giordan and …
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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of space and digital entertainment, and discuss AI-driven space operations, Roblox’s expansion with 100,000-player servers, and Paramount’s Call of Duty film adaptation. From esports acquisitions shaping global markets to safety and privacy in AI wearables, the conver…
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How does the digital future feel inside a BMW? In this second episode of Inside Neue Klasse, Nicki Shields sits down with David Leister, BMW User Interface Design Lead, to uncover the story behind the BMW Panoramic iDrive — a new interaction experience designed to bring clarity, personalisation, and seamless integration into every drive. From early…
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In this exciting return of TechMagic in season 3, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler sit down with Kevin Rose, founder of Digg and partner at True Ventures, to explore the future of digital communities and human-first technology. Together, they discuss the ambitious Digg relaunch in partnership with Reddit’s co-founder, Alexis Ohanian, the challenges…
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What defines the unmistakable driving feel of a BMW? In this first episode of Inside Neue Klasse, Nicki Shields speaks with Torsten Müller, Chief Engineer of BMW Dynamic Performance Control, to explore the Heart of Joy — the central computing unit that powers the driving experience in the Neue Klasse. From early development ideas to dynamic test dr…
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Cathy and Lee are taking a break this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the cutting-edge innovations transforming finance and commerce in 2025. Along with special guest Nabil Manji, SVP of Finte…
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Cathy and Lee are taking a break this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack viral AI trends, privacy concerns surrounding ChatGPT's photo location capabilities, and the future of spatial computing w…
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Cathy and Lee are on leave this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore cutting-edge innovations, from AI agents to Meta’s fashion-forward Ray-Ban smart glasses. Special guest Melissa Medina, CEO of …
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The world of media is changing faster than ever. Listen to this powerful conversation on how exponential technologies are reshaping how we tell stories, deliver news, and create content in a hyperconnected world.By Be Exponential
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While TechMagic hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler are on vacation, they spotlight a must-hear episode of Adspeak by Adweek. In this episode, Ryan Joe speaks with Adweek’s Rebecca Stewart and Audrey Kemp to unpack the fallout from Cannes Lions 2023, where AI-manipulated case studies led to major award revocations, most notably involving agency DM9. T…
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In the season finale of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the latest tech trends, from Meta’s neural interface bracelet and Apple’s liquid glass UI redesign to Nintendo Switch 2’s record-breaking launch. They’re joined by special guest Johanna Salazar, co-founder of FoodStream Network, who shares her mission to build human-centered…
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On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler welcome Jeff Shardell, founder and CEO of Humble Brands, to hear about his journey from leading at Google to redefining sustainability in the CPG world. Jeff shares how his tech background shaped his approach to eco-friendly product design, scaling consumer goods, and building an authentic…
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