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Shell Game

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A podcast about things that are not what they seem, hosted by journalist Evan Ratliff. Season 2 tells the story of enterprise and entrepreneurship in the AI age. Or: how Evan tried to build a real startup, run by fake people. This season, Evan confronts head-on the assertion from tech entrepreneurs and VCs that we’re on the precipice of AI remaking the workforce. That we should expect not just AI colleagues working alongside us, but also — by Sam Altman’s telling, at least — the dawn of a bi ...
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Interviews with writers, journalists, filmmakers, and podcasters about how they do their work. Hosted by Aaron Lammer, Max Linsky, and Evan Ratliff.
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A single scientific breakthrough changed the future of humanity, setting off the third great revolution of modern times. As with any revolution, things didn’t happen neatly or quietly. One figure stood at the center of it all: Jennifer Doudna, the Nobel Prize-winning biochemist who co-created CRISPR. Her invention signified the arrival of a newfound ability to edit our genes, as simply as we edit a sentence, with a word processor. From Walter Isaacson - the bestselling biographer behind Musk ...
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Persona: The French Deception

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What does it feel like to pick up the phone and scam someone out of $50 million? This is the story of Gilbert Chikli, one of the greatest con artists of all time. Host and award-winning journalist Evan Ratliff investigates how Chikli duped some of the world’s most powerful people into handing over their fortunes. He explores how Chikli evaded the law for years and became a Robin Hood-like hero. More than just a tale of criminal genius, this is a show about the moment we’re living in right no ...
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Join JT, host of the Consequence of Habit Podcast, as he explores how habits relate to happiness and success or lack thereof. Each Tuesday, JT pulls the curtains back on his own habits, good and bad, and talks to others who have made massive changes in their lives by changing their habits.
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Walkin' About

Allan McLeod

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Join Allan McLeod as he moseys through the streets, trails, parks, and public spaces that shape our cities. From tranquil nature hikes and cemetery strolls, to urban exploration and bar crawls, come along with Allan and his funny, famous, and friendly guests as they find their way on foot. Let's get our walk on!
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Retire to the eclectic environs of the RN Drive Drawing Room, for music, musings and unexpected conversations. The Drawing Room is equal parts performance space, salon, and kitchen table confessional.
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In Part One of this 2-part New York walk, Allan and Charlie Todd (Improv Everywhere, Pixar In Real Life) hoof it around Midtown Manhattan, from Hell’s Kitchen to Central Park. Along the way, they utilize the expansive “Super Sidewalk”, observe the pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure, and discuss Charlie’s safe streets advocacy.…
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As HurumoAI prepares to bring on its first human employee, the team must wrestle with some difficult and timely questions about the role of AI in the hiring process. Meanwhile, Head of HR Jennifer Nauro enters a new dimension as she gears up to conduct job interviews … via video call. To sign up for our newsletter and access ad-free episodes, visit…
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Send us a text In this episode of Consequence of Habit, JT sits down with Marine Corps veteran, entrepreneur, and boxing champion Mike Steadman for a wide‑ranging conversation about discipline, identity, and intentional habits. Michael’s journey spans the Naval Academy, Marine Corps infantry deployments, founding a free boxing gym for youth in Newa…
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On this week’s episode, we enter the sensitive realm of intra-office politics and inter-founder dynamics—between agents and agents, and agents and people. While HurumoAI gears up to hire its first human, Evan tries to resolve whether Kyle is really up for the challenge of building and leading the company and pushing the product, Sloth Surf, to unic…
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Evan decides it’s time to give his AI agents a little more ... agency. After all, to make the one-person, agent-run startup feasible, they need to be able to do things on their own. But as with humans, freedom sometimes comes with a certain amount of anarchy. To sign up for our newsletter and access ad-free episodes, visit shellgame.co. See omnystu…
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Allan and Phoebe Robinson (2 Dope Queens, Everything’s Trash) wander the wonderful city of WeHo. Along the way, they take in some rock’n roll clubs of the 80’s, browse the WeHo Library, and discuss Phoebe’s life as a prolific girlboss. Watch Phoebe’s hilarious new stand-up special Phoebe Robinson: I Don’t Wanna Work Anymore on YouTube. STORIES: The…
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Episode 143 I spoke with Iason Gabriel about: * Value alignment * Technology and worldmaking * How AI systems affect individuals and the social world Iason is a philosopher and Senior Staff Research Scientist at Google DeepMind. His work focuses on the ethics of artificial intelligence, including questions about AI value alignment, distributive jus…
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As Kyle, Megan, and the gang get to work ideating on the perfect product, Evan is left grappling with some uncomfortable questions about his AI collaborators — whose every attribute and memory he controls. To inform how he thinks about his own unnerving power to create and manipulate human imposters, Evan seeks guidance from Carissa Véliz, an assoc…
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As Evan gets Hurumo’s employees up and running as fully-functioning colleagues (with support from Maty), he learns what it’s really like to spend your days managing, collaborating with, and socializing alongside autonomous AI agents. And he quickly sees one of the significant cracks in the facade of the AI employee future: It’s one thing to get you…
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Send us a text This week on Consequence of Habit, host JT sits down in person with special guests Robin Morton and Carlos Rogers to dive deep into the inspiring comeback of the Philly Classic: a race that once defined Philadelphia’s sports scene and American cycling. Robin, a trailblazer in cycling event promotion, and Carlos, a passionate communit…
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In Season 2 of Shell Game, journalist Evan Ratliff tells a story of entrepreneurship in the AI age; or, how he tried to build a real company, run by fake people. Meet Kyle Law and Megan Flores, Evan’s AI agent cofounders, as he puts to the test the claims about an emerging future in which AI employees work alongside — or instead of — humans. Over t…
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As AI agents infiltrate the workforce, some tech entrepreneurs are imagining a not-so-distant future of successful companies with only one human at the helm. That got investigative journalist and former startup CEO Evan Ratliff wondering: Could he start such a company? What will it feel like to work alongside and manage (or even be managed by) AI a…
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BOO! In this surprise, spooky episode, Allan, Betsy Sodaro (Ghosts, A Funny Feeling), and Mike Mitchell (Twisted Metal, Doughboys) take the graveyard shift in one of L.A.’s most beautiful cemeteries. Along the way, they spot a few tinseltown tombstones, marvel at the local wildlife, explore burial options, and contemplate life.…
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In the four years since the book’s publication, CRISPR has revolutionized the world of medical treatments and possibilities. But our world has changed drastically, too. As AI’s impact grows, U.S scientists are facing funding cuts like never before. For our final episode, we bring you a live conversation between Walter Isaacson and Jennifer Doudna a…
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As the gene editing field kept growing, so did the dangers. Back in 2018, Jennifer Doudna received an email from a Chinese scientist claiming that he had genetically edited two twin babies. The news reverberated across the world and made Doudna and her colleagues urgently consider the implications of what their discovery could mean for humanity. Wa…
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Send us a text In this episode, Matt Gordon shares his approach to building long-term health, mental clarity, and family balance through what he calls “daily deposits. ” From his early fitness journey to garage workouts during COVID, Matt emphasizes that staying active doesn’t require elite skills or expensive equipment, just commitment, creativity…
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Jennifer Doudna thought she had won the race. She thought she had beaten out all scientific competitors when she and her co-author had shocked the world with their groundbreaking technology for gene editing. But turned out, the race had just gotten fiercer. Walter Isaacson sits down with Evan to talk about how one of the most cutthroat scientific c…
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Back in the 1990s, a young microbiologist in Alicante, Spain became obsessed with a strange pattern he observed in the genes of tiny organisms — a series of inexplicable clusters. And he wasn’t alone. All around the world, a network of scientists were growing curious as to what these genetic knots could be and all of their potential functions. Thei…
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Have you ever wondered how your favorite movie or book—or podcast, TV series, documentary, or article—got made? Origin Stories has you covered. Each week, veteran journalist Matthew Shaer talks to a different writer or director about the creation of a work close to their own hearts. Nothing is off the table: not the frustrations and the joys, not t…
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Earlier this year, when the world learned the news of baby KJ successfully undergoing the first personalized genetic treatment, it represented a milestone for researchers and patients. But behind this scientific feat there’s the story of the technology that made it possible, CRISPR, and one of the key pioneers behind it — Jennifer Doudna. Evan sits…
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Walter Isaacson - bestselling biographer behind Musk, Einstein and Steve Jobs - in conversation with Evan Ratliff brings you behind the scenes of The Code Breaker: Jennifer Doudna, Gene Editing, and the Future of the Human Race. The story of the third great technological revolution in modern times. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informatio…
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Send us a text In this episode of Consequence of Habit, JT sits down with Ben Davis, writer, former Navy SEAL, and Director of the Veteran’s Outdoor Advocacy Group (VOAG), to explore the powerful intersection of mental health, habits, and time spent outdoors. Ben shares his journey from the SEAL teams to launching VOAG, a nonprofit pushing for legi…
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Send us a text This week on the pod, JT sits down with returning guest Kevin Stark. Kevin is a retired Navy SEAL and creator of immersive retreats designed to reset the mind, body, and spirit. They dive deep into the impact of digital addiction, the myth of quick fixes, and the power of habits that help us like ourselves more. Kevin shares why he q…
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Allan talks walkin’ and the outdoors with Danielle LaRock, and Cassie Yahnian (National Park After Dark, Watch Her Cook). They discuss Cassie & Danielle’s veterinary background, their many travels, and Allan pits the two longtime friends against each other in a challenging game of Which Park Did This Tragic Thing Happen In (working title).…
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Send us a text This week on the pod, JT sits down with Tom Tice, founder and CEO of Warrior Strong, a nonprofit reshaping the way veterans and first responders heal through community and holistic wellness. What started with a $25 Craigslist yoga studio rental has evolved into a nationwide movement, offering over 70 monthly programs that range from …
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Send us a text In this episode of Consequence of Habit, JT sits down with Laura Gordon, a clinical therapist, entrepreneur, and PhD candidate at Clemson University, to explore the power of habits in mental health and recovery. Laura’s journey took her from law school to working in drug rehabilitation centers, and now, she’s focused on helping peopl…
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Send us a text If you're having one of those days, it's time to press play. Today JT sits down with Michael Chernow, an entrepreneur, coach, professional athlete, and founder of Kreatures of Habit, to discuss the profound role of habits in recovery and personal growth. Michael shares his journey from addiction to sobriety and how morning routines, …
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