Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists, theol ...
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One Choice Away: Justin and Trisha Davis on Marriage, Forgiveness, and the Enneagram (Types 8 & 3)
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48:40Today, we’re joined by Justin (8w7) and Trisha Davis (3w2), a couple whose story holds both heartbreak and a hard-won hope. We talk honestly about the Eight–Three dance in marriage—intensity, drive, image, and protection—and how those same strengths can be magic when we’re healthy and toxic when we’re not. We also dive into their new book, One Choi…
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Wired for Relationship: Attachment Theory and Spiritual Growth with Dr. Todd Hall
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1:06:50In this episode of Typology, I sit down with Dr. Todd Hall to explore the profound ways attachment theory shapes not only our personal relationships but also our spirituality. Together, we unpack how the early bonds we form with caregivers influence our emotional health, the ways we relate to others, and even how we connect with God. Todd shares in…
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The Art of Listening: An Eight Step Approach to Connection with Emily Kasriel
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58:35This week, we explore the art of listening and the complexities of human personality through the lens of the Enneagram with Emily Kasriel, an award-winning journalist, executive coach, and author of the new book, Deep Listening: Transform Your Relationships with Family, Friends, and Foes. Emily shares her journey of self-awareness and the importanc…
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How to Lead with Courage and Vulnerability, feat. Dr. Terence Lester (Enneagram 8)
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59:21In this week’s episode of Typology, I sit down with Dr. Terence Lester—an Enneagram Eight, author of From Dropout to Doctorate, and the visionary founder of Love Beyond Walls. Terence’s story is as powerful as it is inspiring. From his early years in Atlanta to leading a movement that uplifts those experiencing poverty and homelessness, his journey…
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1,000 Hours Outside: Rediscovering the Freedom of Play with Ginny Yurich
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52:43This week on Typology, I sit down with Ginny Yurich—author of Until the Streetlights Come On and Homeschooling: You’re Doing It Right Just by Doing It. Together, we revisit the freedom of childhood play, explore how modern parenting has shifted, and talk about why kids today desperately need more time outdoors. Ginny, an Enneagram Two, shares candi…
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The ADD Method for Emotional Freedom with Enneagram One, Alicia Michelle
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58:17In this episode of Typology, I sit down with Alicia Michelle—an Enneagram One and host of The Christian Mindset Coach podcast—for a meaningful conversation about emotions, perfectionism, and the journey toward self-compassion. Alicia shares her story of discovering her true type, the freedom that comes from quieting the inner critic, and her practi…
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Building an Emotionally Healthy Family in a Culture That Won’t Stop Shouting, with Sarah Boyd, M.Ed. in Psych
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44:48Ever feel like the world’s volume knob is stuck on “too loud”? In this week’s episode of Typology, I’m joined by my friend Sarah Boyd—an insightful Enneagram Four and author of the brand-new book, Turn Down the Noise: A Practical Guide to Building an Emotionally Healthy Family in a Chronically Overstimulated World. Sarah has walked through seasons …
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From VeggieTales to the Enneagram: Mike Nawrocki on Peace, Presence, and Purpose
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57:25What happens when a peace-seeking Enneagram Nine becomes the voice of one of the most beloved animated characters in children’s television? Find out as we dive into the world of the Enneagram with special guest Mike Nawrocki, co-creator of VeggieTales and the voice of Larry the Cucumber. In this engaging conversation, we explore the unique traits o…
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Understanding Enneagram Twos: Desire, Boundaries, and Connection with Emily Zeller, LMFT
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54:12What happens when your deep longing to love and be loved gets tangled up with your need to be needed? In this week’s episode of Typology, Anthony and I sit down with the wonderful Emily Zeller—a licensed marriage and family therapist, certified Enneagram practitioner, and a one-to-one Enneagram Two. Emily brings such honesty and heart as we talk ab…
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A Change of Habit: Sister Monica Clare's Journey from Advertising to Nunhood
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46:43Welcome to this enlightening episode of Typology! Join us as we explore the life and journey of Sister Monica Clare, an Enneagram 6 and author of the memoir A Change of Habit: Leaving Behind My Husband, Career, and Everything I Owned to Become a Nun. In this episode, we explore: Sister Monica's experiences growing up in a chaotic environment and ho…
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Desire, Longing and the Enneagram, feat. Tracey Gee
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43:38In this episode of Typology, we welcome Tracey Gee, an Enneagram 3w2 and author of the new book, The Magic of Knowing What You Want: A Practical Guide to Unearthing the Wisdom of Your Desires. Tracey shares her journey of discovering the Enneagram in her late 20s while navigating the challenges of vocational ministry and familial expectations. She …
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Taming Your Money Monster: Understanding Finances Through the Lens of the Enneagram, feat. Doug Lynam
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41:55In this episode of Typology, we welcome Doug Lynam, an Enneagram 3w4 and author of the new book "Taming Your Money Monster: Nine Paths to Money Mastery with the Enneagram." Doug shares his fascinating journey from Marine Corps officer to Benedictine monk and now money manager, exploring how the Enneagram can provide insights into our relationship w…
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Grace Yourself: How to Embrace Sobriety and Self-Acceptance, with Chris Janssen
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45:30In this episode of Typology, I sit down with Chris Janssen, a USA Today best-selling author and board-certified coach, to explore the intersection of the Enneagram, recovery, and personal growth. Chris, an Enneagram 4, shares her journey of sobriety and the insights she gained from her experiences. Together, we discuss the unique challenges that En…
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The Stories That Shape Us, feat. Melanie Shankle (Enneagram 9)
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37:17How do our early stories shape who we become, and what would it look like to embrace healing and grace along the way? In this heartfelt episode of Typology, we welcome Melanie Shankle, an Enneagram 9 with an 8 wing and author of Here Be Dragons: Treading the Deep Waters of Motherhood, Mean Girls, and Generational Trauma. Melanie opens up about the …
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Joy, Suffering, and the Spirit Who Holds It All – with Margaret Feinberg (Enneagram 7w8)
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40:10This week on Typology, I sat down with the brilliant and buoyant Margaret Feinberg—author, teacher, and Enneagram 7 with an 8 wing. We talked about her new book, The God You Need to Know, and what it means to experience the Holy Spirit’s presence—not just in the highs of life, but in the valleys too. Margaret opened up about facing surgery just bef…
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The Inner World of a 4w5: The Creative Struggle for Authenticity with Hanna HowardDraft: Hanna Howard
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43:08This week on Typology I had the joy of sitting down with author Hanna Howard, an Enneagram Four with a Five wing. Hanna’s not only the author of the young adult fantasy novel Our Divine Mischief, but also a great example of how our Enneagram type shapes the stories we tell — on paper and in life. We talk about what sets a 4w5 apart — that mix of em…
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Understanding Your Conflict Style: Enneagram Insights with Dr. James Ginn
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54:45In this episode of the Typology Podcast, we dive deep into the art of conflict resolution with our special guest, James Ginn, author of the new book How to Get Along with Anyone: The Playbook for Predicting and Preventing Conflict at Work and at Home. Join us as we explore the five distinct conflict styles: Avoiders, Competitors, Collaborators, Acc…
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When “Enough” Is More Than Money: An Enneagram One’s Journey, feat. Elizabeth Husserl
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42:00In this heartfelt episode of Typology, Anthony and I sit down with Elizabeth Husserl—an Enneagram One with a Two wing and the author of the beautiful new book The Power of Enough: Finding Joy in Your Relationship with Money. Elizabeth's story begins over two decades ago when she first encountered the Enneagram. What followed was nothing short of tr…
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Dr. Morgan Cutlip on Tackling the Invisible Burden of the Mental Load Among Couples
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48:09Have you ever felt overwhelmed in your relationships or struggled with the mental load? If yes, this episode is a must-listen! In this episode, Dr. Morgan Cutlip, an Enneagram 9 and author of the new book, A Better Share reveals how understanding her Enneagram type has shaped her approach to relationships, especially with her husband, who is a Type…
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From Conflict to Connection: Transforming Relationships Through the Enneagram with Christa Hardin, MA
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59:34In this episode of Typology, we take a look at the fascinating intersection of the Enneagram and relationships with our special guest, Crista Hardin, a relationship expert and author of "The Enneagram in Marriage." Christa, an Enneagram 7, brings her vibrant energy and insights to the conversation, discussing how her type influences her marriage an…
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Underestimated: Mary Marantz on Embracing Fear and Moving Forward
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56:14This week we welcome the incredible Mary Marantz, an Enneagram 4 and author of the new book, Underestimated: The Surprisingly Simple Shift to Quit Playing Small, Name the Fear, and Move Forward Anyway. In this episode, we dive deep into the transformative power of understanding our Enneagram types and how they shape our narratives. Mary shares her …
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From Codependency to Self-Discovery: Thais Gibson on the Path of an Enneagram Two
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51:08In this episode of Typology, we dive deep into the world of the Enneagram with our special guest, Thais Gibson, an Enneagram Two with a Three wing. Thais is a counselor, best-selling author, and co-founder of the Personal Development School, bringing a wealth of knowledge and experience to our conversation. Join Ian Cron and co-host Anthony Skinner…
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The Audacity to Be You: Embracing Your True Self, feat. Dr. Brad Reedy
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51:07In this powerful episode of Typology, I’m honored to sit down with Enneagram 8, Dr. Brad Reedy, co-founder and chief clinical officer of Finding You Therapy Programs, Together, we explore the profound impact of therapy and self-acceptance on the transformative journey of self-discovery and healing. Brad opens up about his journey as a therapist and…
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The Soul Beneath the Symptoms, feat. Michael J. Cusick
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39:40This week on Typology, I sat down with my dear friend, therapist and spiritual director, Michael Cusick for a raw, wise, and deeply compassionate conversation about the connection between attachments and our path to healing. Michael—founder of Restoring the Soul and a true guide for the journey inward—helps us unpack the idea that our symptoms (anx…
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An Enneagram Six's Journey to Open-Heartedness, feat. Jeff Chu
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41:49How do you cultivate open-heartedness? Tune in as the insightful Jeff Chu, author of the new memoir, Good Soil: The Education of an Accidental Farmhand and a self-identified Enneagram Six, shares what he learned on his journey from a successful career in journalism to the unexpected life of a farmhand at Princeton's Farminary. We explore the fascin…
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