The Art of Growth started by Joel Hubbard and Jim Zartman works with teams to develop Team Health and individuals for self-mastery and social awareness. We are an IEA (International Enneagram Association) school for Enneagram Certification. With organizations, we have a detailed roadmap to change the culture of your team and improve communication, conflict, trust, and personality
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⚠️DISCLAIMER: This enneagram podcast contains highly charged elements. Contents may cause unexpected states of psychological depth and trigger unconventional insight. Listener discretion is advised. Hosted by John Luckovich, Emeka Okorafor, David Gray, Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo
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Our mission is to foster a global and inclusive Enneagram community through Engagement, Education, and Excellence. We envision a world in which the Enneagram is widely used for positive change.
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Join Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes, two of the top Enneagram teachers from across the globe as they share new insights on this ancient personal development system.
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The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself. This is Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson going around the circle to discuss various topics and how they affect each type.
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The Fathoms podcast is about serious work for unserious humans. We dive deep into the topics that make us human. Whether it's the Enneagram or just learning to ask better questions. There's never a shortage of gravity or levity, so hit play, let's get to it! This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
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A podcast for people who are curious about how others manage their lives. A podcast for people who are kinda sorta interested in knowing more about this Enneagram thing they keep hearing about. And a podcast for people who are low or high-key obsessed with the Enneagram. On Enneagram-ish, hosted the by the ever-nosy Valentine, we’ll post weekly episodes that alternate between brief educational content and longer interviews with various Enneagram types.
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What if you were able to open up the blind spots in your relationships? What would be possible?
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Two gals talking marketing, life, and all the mayhem in between.
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The Bravery Board promotes mental wellness and thriving to high performing women, creatives, & those who desire growth. We are an attorney and humanitarian (Lindsay Donaldson), counselor and artist (Michelle Houghton), pastor and speaker (Kate Alsup), and author and fundraising coach (Jenn Fortner). We are a group of women who believe in the power of being brave through vulnerability and sharing our growth (however scary or messy it may be!) with others. The Bravery Board hosts quarterly gat ...
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Jeff Cook is a professor of philosophy and co-host of the Around the Circle podcast. He lives in Greeley, Colorado, and is the author of three books, including Around the Circle | An Enneagram Book, available June 2025. www.aroundthecircle.org ORDER OUR Hunter, Farmer, and Teamer BOOK: HERE Get Enneagram Certified HERE. www.theartofgrowth.org Email…
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Friends, Tomorrow our good friend Tyler Zach is beginning his much anticipated Enneasummit online on the Enneagram Instincts. Click here for FREE Access : https://www.tylerzach.com/a/2148111985/gTjkbNt4By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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S4 EP10 A Spiritual Director's Personal Experience as a Social Two
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1:04:10Sign up for our newsletter on our website https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter to join thousands of monthly readers. Get exclusive content and be the first to know about events. Just quality in all things Enneagram. Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly …
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Ashton Whitmoyer-Ober | Enneagram at Work
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54:39For Ashton's 7 Week Training Experience go : HERE For the full interview with Ashton go : HEREBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Wisdom of Doubting Your Bias with Tyler Zach (EnneaSummit)
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52:08ORDER OUR BOOK OUT: HERE EnneaSummit on the Instincts Signup HERE Get Enneagram Certified HERE. www.theartofgrowth.org Email us your thoughts and questions! Go to our website to sign up for: Corporate Training One-on-one coaching Enneagram Certification About Our Guest: Tyler Zach is an author, Enneagram coach, and former pastor with 19 years of fu…
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from Lisa Morrice about the passions—a recurring emotional pattern associated with our personality types. When we’re not aware of them, they run us pretty much all the time, making us forget ourselves on a fundamental level. Lisa explains how it helps to underst…
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Type 5: The Quest for Knowledge, Understanding, and Self-Sufficiency
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1:45:45The focal point of today's discourse revolves around the Enneagram Type Five, characterized by their profound inclination towards detachment and observation as a means of navigating an overwhelmingly stimulating world. We delve into the complexities inherent in the Five’s experience, particularly emphasizing their heightened sensitivity, which ofte…
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EnneaSummit on the Instincts Signup HERE Get Enneagram Certified HERE. www.theartofgrowth.org Email us your thoughts and questions! Follow us on Instagram at ArtofGrowth for more on this subject this month and let us know what you are doing. Go to our website to sign up for: Corporate Training One-on-one coaching Enneagram Certification AND MORE...…
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Hunter Mobley | Letting Go, Finding You | Part II
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40:05We are joined again by our friend Hunter Mobley. Hunter' new book releases on May 22 and can be found HERE. Hunter Mobley is an Enneagram teacher who leads a yearlong Contemplative Cohort program at Suzanne and Joe Stabile's teaching center, The Micah Center, in Dallas, Texas.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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A Preview of IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
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54:57In this special collaborative episode with Do It for The Gram, the International Enneagram Association Podcast and Fathoms, Milton Stewart is joined by Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lindsey Marks and Lee Fields as they preview the upcoming IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 - Global Conference and Celebration. All four hosts will be in attendance, so they sha…
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Three Pillars of Wisdom: Truth, Beauty, and Goodness
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Hunter Mobley | Letting Go, Finding You | Part I
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46:10We are joined again by our friend Hunter Mobley. Hunter' new book releases on May 22 and can be found HERE. Hunter Mobley is an Enneagram teacher who leads a yearlong Contemplative Cohort program at Suzanne and Joe Stabile's teaching center, The Micah Center, in Dallas, Texas.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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A Preview of IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
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54:21In this special collaborative episode with the IEA Podcast, Do It for The Gram and Fathoms, Milton Stewart, Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lindsey Marks and Lee Fields preview the upcoming IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 - Global Conference and Celebration. All four hosts will be in attendance, so they share what they are looking forward to at this summer’s…
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Type 4: The Longing for Depth, Authenticity, and Uniqueness
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2:32:34The focal point of this podcast episode revolves around the exploration of Enneagram Type Four, often perceived as the individualistic or romantic type, characterized by a profound longing for identity and uniqueness. Our discussion delves into the complexities of the emotional landscape of Fours, emphasizing their capacity for creativity and intro…
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ORDER OUR BOOK OUT: HERE Get Enneagram Certified HERE. www.theartofgrowth.org Email us your thoughts and questions! Follow us on Instagram at ArtofGrowth for more on this subject this month and let us know what you are doing. Go to our website to sign up for: Corporate Training One-on-one coaching Enneagram Certification AND MORE... Support the sho…
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S4 Ep9 Integrating the Enneagram in Psychotherapy and Healing Work
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59:02In this episode, Bea and Uranio sit down with psychotherapist Karen Carlsen to explore how the Enneagram can be integrated into deep healing and therapeutic work. Karen shares her approach to using the Enneagram as a map for understanding personality defenses, the power of knowing her clients' Enneagram types, and transformation in psychotherapy an…
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On with Tyler Zach | Instincts, Origins, and the Future of the Enneagram Tyler Zach joins us to talk about the June Enneagram Summit he’s hosting—focused entirely on instincts. Go HERE TO SIGN UP. We also explore his work tracing the History of the Enneagram, offering context for where the movement has been and where it may be heading. 🔗 Explore Ty…
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Enneagram and Marriage Podcast Interviews US
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Mindfulness and the Enneagram with Renee Rosario (Part 2)
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48:55In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue Renee Rosario’s conversation about using mindfulness with the Enneagram, which is a great tool to open us up to greater wisdom and help us make better choices. Renee invites two people from each center—heart, head and body—to share what they bring to inner practice and …
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Type 3: The Pursuit of Success, Identity, and Value
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1:26:55This podcast episode delves into the complexities of the Enneagram Type 3, also known as "The Achiever." We explore the dichotomy of striving for excellence while grappling with the inherent anxieties of performance and recognition. A special guest, Vanessa Fernandez, shares her personal journey in understanding her threeness, articulating the chal…
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HERE LIES THE REMAINS OF THE BIG HORMONE ENNEAGRAM PODCAST, 2020-2025 RIPBy John Luckovich, Emeka Okorafor, David Gray, Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo
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S4 Ep8 Doing Deep work with the Enneagram in Egypt and London
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34:55Beatrice Chestnut has a conversation with Dina Elbadry about the power of recognizing and accepting trauma. The act of sharing personal stories with a group of people has a profound effect on self-development. Learn how being vulnerable in a group of people who validate and resonate with pain can help release the power trauma holds. Sign up for our…
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Tacos, Toyotas and the Art of Happiness | An Enneagram Event
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27:40Friends, the link to our event is HERE.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Our Interview with "Around the Circle"
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1:29:50Check out the Around the Circle Podcast HERE! ORDER OUR BOOK OUT: HERE Take the INSTINCTS ASSESSMENT www.theartofgrowth.org Email us your thoughts and questions! Follow us on Instagram at ArtofGrowth for more on this subject this month and let us know what you are doing. Go to our website to sign up for: Corporate Training One-on-one coaching Ennea…
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Mindfulness and the Enneagram with Renee Rosario
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2:05:24In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from Renee Rosario about using mindfulness with the Enneagram to gain greater clarity with what’s happening inside. Mindfulness is a great tool to transform things and opens us up to greater wisdom. Renee explains the three skills that are essential to mindfulne…
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Type 2: The Heartfelt Drive to Give, Support, and Connect
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1:39:05The primary focus of this podcast episode revolves around the exploration of Enneagram Type 2, often referred to as "the Helper." We delve into the intricacies of this type, examining the motivations that drive individuals characterized by this type to seek connection and affirmation through their relationships with others. In particular, we scruti…
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Kidney Stones, Toilet Paper & Being In Our Glitter Era
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1:01:36Send us a text Welcome to the mayhem. Raebecca is back and we kickoff with a laugh-out-loud story about dog accidents and slipper-washing habits quickly evolves into a wide-ranging exploration of shared obsessions, embarrassing moments, and personal quirks that will make you feel seen. The fashion talk gets real as we profess our unwavering loyalty…
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Kristin Messegee | Enneagram Six | 20 Questions
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1:10:04We welcome the delightful Kristin Messegee. Kristin is an Enneagram Six. She is a coach serving and supporting Enneagram Sixes and she hosts the podcast Life Uninhibited, which is an Enneagram podcast which is tailored for Loyalists. You can find her on Instagram : HERE And her beautiful podcast: HERE…
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ORDER OUR BOOK OUT: HERE Take the INSTINCTS ASSESSMENT www.theartofgrowth.org Email us your thoughts and questions! Follow us on Instagram at ArtofGrowth for more on this subject this month and let us know what you are doing. Go to our website to sign up for: Corporate Training One-on-one coaching Enneagram Certification AND MORE... Support the sho…
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S4 Ep7. A Look Back: Focus of Attention of the 27 Subtypes
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1:17:53All Enneagram types have a particular thing that they focus their attention on (often unconsciously). Understanding each of these points of focus is one of the best ways for people to learn about the Nine types and the 27 subtypes. People tend to become very good at the thing they pay attention to, but they tend to miss the bigger picture. For inne…
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Teachers! | with Dr. Billy Schewee and Prof. Kelly Langley Cook
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1:41:02How the Enneagram Transforms Education. In this episode, Jeff and TJ welcome Dr. Billy Schewee and Professor Kelly Langley Cook to explore how the Enneagram intersects with parenting, teaching, and educational leadership. From college prep to classroom dynamics, the conversation highlights how knowing yourself—and your students—can reshape how we l…
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Decision Making, Gut Instinct & Getting Beyond the "I'll Try" with Life Coach, Jennifer Sisk
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55:21Send us a text Have you ever ignored that nagging feeling in your gut, only to wish you hadn’t? That wasn’t just anxiety or overthinking—it was your internal compass trying to steer you right. We’re back with life coach Jennifer Sisk, making her third appearance on the show. She breaks down how to tell the difference between gut instinct and fear. …
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Alfred Adler’s Individual Psychology and the Enneagram
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56:57In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from IEA Conference 2009 by Dr Jerome “Jerry” Wagner about Alfred Adler, founder of the school of individual psychology. Jerry explains Adler’s theory that emphasizes on the uniqueness of each person and social dimensions, comparing it to Freud, and its relevanc…
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Type 1: The Pursuit of Goodness, Integrity, and Order
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1:47:14The focal point of this podcast episode is a thorough exploration of Type One in the Enneagram, often referred to as the "Reformer" or "Perfectionist." This discussion encompasses the characteristics of Type One, such as their principled nature, commitment to integrity, and the relentless pursuit of improvement. Throughout the dialogue, we delve in…
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Buckle Bunnies, Pilates & Aging Gracefully
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53:26Send us a text A hospital stay wasn't on our bingo card this week, but here we are, sharing the raw, unfiltered experience of navigating the healthcare system when your child develops a rare autoimmune reaction. Between praising the incredible staff at Shawn Jenkins Children's Hospital and contemplating our outfit choices for the upcoming rodeo, we…
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The Ten Big Questions | Fives | with Jessica Pena
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1:06:50Find all our stuff at : www.aroundthecircle.org We conclude (!!) our deep dive into each of the types with the most informed people we know. This time we're talking with our good friend Jessica, PhD candidate and truly wonderful human being being. This is the only the first hour of our deep dive. You can here stream the full streaming now : HERE…
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S4 Ep6 The Psychological Dimension of the Instincts
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53:52In this episode, we dive deep into the psychological layers of the Enneagram’s three instincts: Self-Preservation, Social, and Sexual. We explore the profound influence of parenting dynamics on the dominant instinct, uncovering how caregivers shape our instinctual survival strategies. How does a parent’s role reinforce or distort an instinct’s expr…
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Enneagrams, Pocketbooks, & Embracing the Awkward
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57:04Send us a text Ever feel like you're making it up as you go along? You're not alone. In this refreshingly candid conversation, we catch up on life's little moments while embracing our perfectly imperfect selves. We dive into the joy of sleeping until 9am (which feels suspiciously like being "on molly," though neither of us can confirm this comparis…
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Melissa Kircher | Enneagram 5 | Life Coach and Illustrator
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50:36First half of our conversation with the fantastic Melissa Kircher—an Enneagram 5, certified Enneagram and life coach, and the creative force behind some of the most insightful Enneagram illustrations on social media. Her work, showcased at Enneagram & Paths, blends rich understanding with minimalistic design to make complex concepts accessible and …
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Lee Fields joins as Lindsey discusses the realization that she was mistyped as a Type Two. This conversation highlights that identifying an Enneagram type is a lot harder than people think, so mistyping can happen. Initially thinking she was a Type Two, Lindsey shares why she thought she fit into this type and how learning that she's in fact a diff…
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ORDER OUR BOOK OUT: HERE Take the INSTINCTS ASSESSMENT www.theartofgrowth.org Email us your thoughts and questions! Follow us on Instagram at ArtofGrowth for more on this subject this month and let us know what you are doing. Go to our website to sign up for: Corporate Training One-on-one coaching Enneagram Certification AND MORE... Support the sho…
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Heroes Type 6 | "The Secret of Nimh" | Part II
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1:43:38For all our best material, go HERE To take a look at our June 27-28 Event : HERE Links to Streaming "The Secret of Nimh" : HERE Or on YouTube : HERE We are beginning our deep dive into Heroism in Enneagram Sixes. We're thrilled to jump into the world of the Rats of Nimh. Enjoy!By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Heroes Type 6 | "The Secret of Nimh" | Part I
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2:04:16For all our best material, go HERE To take a look at our June 27-28 Event : HERE Links to Streaming "The Secret of Nimh" : HERE Or on YouTube : HERE We are beginning our deep dive into Heroism in Enneagram Sixes. We're thrilled to jump into the world of the Rats of Nimh. Enjoy!By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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For all our best material, go HERE To take a look at our June 27-28 Event : HERE Links to Streaming "The Secret of Nimh" : HERE Or on YouTube : HERE "Heroes" is finally here. We are starting the deep dive into our favorite heroes in film and their Enneagram types. This is our introduction to thinking hard about Heroism at times like this.…
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Exploring of the Instincts and Subtypes (Part 5)
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58:48This episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast is another part of the multi-type series about instincts, instinctual biases and subtypes with well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora. They focus on answering audience questions on topics such as the three centers and levels of development…
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Type 9: The Significance of Peace, Presence, and Harmony
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1:49:34In our discourse on Enneagram Type Nine, we collectively unpack the layers of the Peacemaker's identity, guided by the insights of my fellow speakers. We begin by defining pivotal terms such as 'type', 'strategy', and 'pattern', which serve as foundational concepts for our exploration. The conversation transitions into examining how Nines often emb…
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Parenting Teenagers, the Panini Generation & Know Your Kids with Peggy Derivan, Licensed Mental Health Counselor
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55:25Send us a text If you’ve ever wondered if you’re the one keeping your therapist up at night … this one’s for you. Raising a teen - anticipating raising a teen - join us an intimate conversation with the bright and bubbly Peggy Derivan. She’s going to push your process and perspective on raising teens - thank goodness. After all “we’re pretty screwe…
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The Ten Big Questions | Fours | with Heidi the Therapist
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1:04:08Find all our stuff at : www.aroundthecircle.org We continue our deep dive into each of the types with the most informed people we know. This time we're talking with our good friend Heidi, counselor extraordinaire. This is the first hour of our three hour (!) deep dive. You can here that streaming now : HERE…
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