⚠️DISCLAIMER: This enneagram podcast contains highly charged elements. Contents may cause unexpected states of psychological depth and trigger unconventional insight. Listener discretion is advised. Hosted by John Luckovich, Emeka Okorafor, David Gray, Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo
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Enneagram Instincts Podcasts
The Art of Growth started by Joel Hubbard and Jim Zartman works with teams to develop Team Health and individuals for self-mastery and social awareness. We are an IEA (International Enneagram Association) school for Enneagram Certification. With organizations, we have a detailed roadmap to change the culture of your team and improve communication, conflict, trust, and personality
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Welcome to The Enneagram Edge, the go-to podcast for entrepreneurs ready to unlock the power of their Enneagram type to create thriving businesses and lives they love. Join me, Margot Zaher, a certified Enneagram coach and business coach, as we dive deep into how your personality influences everything from decision-making and productivity to relationships and success. Episodes are packed with practical tips, real-world stories, and interviews with entrepreneurs who’ve leveraged their Enneagr ...
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The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself. This is Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson going around the circle to discuss various topics and how they affect each type.
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A podcast for people who are curious about how others manage their lives. A podcast for people who are kinda sorta interested in knowing more about this Enneagram thing they keep hearing about. And a podcast for people who are low or high-key obsessed with the Enneagram. On Enneagram-ish, hosted the by the ever-nosy Valentine, we’ll post weekly episodes that alternate between brief educational content and longer interviews with various Enneagram types.
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Two former monks, a former startup founder/CEO, and a former equity derivatives trader dive into how to be our best selves, free from the ego. Our egos are the identities we create for ourselves and wish the world to validate, but when we are not seen as we want to be, we feel insecure. This podcast lives at the intersection of leadership and spirituality. It will help you understand your ego and shed light on your inner world so that you can act with greater clarity, compassion, and the fre ...
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What if you were able to open up the blind spots in your relationships? What would be possible?
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The Bravery Board promotes mental wellness and thriving to high performing women, creatives, & those who desire growth. We are an attorney and humanitarian (Lindsay Donaldson), counselor and artist (Michelle Houghton), pastor and speaker (Kate Alsup), and author and fundraising coach (Jenn Fortner). We are a group of women who believe in the power of being brave through vulnerability and sharing our growth (however scary or messy it may be!) with others. The Bravery Board hosts quarterly gat ...
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Instincts and Relationships | with Christa Hardin
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1:08:28Link to our Workshop on Excess | HERE Become a Member of ATC | HERE In this episode, Jeff sits down with author and Enneagram Seven Christa Harden ("Enneagram in Marriage") to unpack how the three instincts—self-preserving, one-to-one, and social—shape relationships. They trace why self-care isn’t selfish but foundational, how biology meets typolog…
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"Excess" | The Low Side of Our Motive | Part I
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1:25:59This is the audio from our November workshop. SIGN UP FOR OUR DECEMBER 13th WORKSHOP : HERE ____ What happens when our Enneagram type stops helping and starts hurting? In this live workshop, Katie and Jeff explore “Excess” – the low side of our core motive – and how each type ramps up its usual strategies until they begin to do damage to ourselves …
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"Early Access" | Enneagram 4 | Timothy in Cincinnati
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53:59Katie sits down with Cincinnati musician and producer Timothy Edward Carpenter to explore the inner landscape of a Four: the pull toward the unattainable, the ache of “not enough,” and why connection only feels real in the deep end. Timothy speaks openly about chasing music dreams, choosing others’ projects over his own, rebuilding marriage, and le…
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"Inside Story" | Jackie Contessa | Enneagram 2
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1:49:12In this episode of Inside Story, host Kristin Messegee (@enneagram_6_coach) sits down with Enneagram coach Jackie Contessa (@tablefor9co). Jackie talks about Twoness and pulling back the curtain on pride, need, the fear of lovelessness, the desire to be chosen, and the quiet grief Twos carry when they disconnect from themselves. Together, they expl…
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Steph Barron Hall | High and Low Side of Arrows
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30:09For the full interview go : HERE Jeff and TJ sit down with Enneagram author Steph Barron Hall to rethink everything we’ve been told about arrows. Instead of simple “disintegration and growth” lines, Steph walks us into high side/low side movement in both directions, the role of Soul Child / recovery points, and how arrows actually support transform…
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Episode #19: Adventures in Entrepreneurship with a Type 7 Visionary
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38:55In this episode, we dive into the energetic, idea-filled world of the Enneagram Type 7 entrepreneur with special guest Chris Mcgurrin from Dicot Designs. Type 7s bring enthusiasm, creativity, and possibility-thinking into everything they touch—yet running a business also forces them to face structure, follow-through, and the discomfort of slowing d…
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"Early Access" | Enneagram 3 | Sara in Cincinnati
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52:35This week, Katie talks to Sara, a local friend she met at one of her weekly Enneagram classes. We discuss medical school, DOING vs BEING, and what it feels like to subject yourself to constant comparison against other people (and maybe how to get out of it). There is some scratchy audio in the first five minutes of this podcast, but I promise that …
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To become a member and see our best work: GO HERE If you want to order Joey's book: GO HERE And our first book is HERE ___ Jeff and TJ sit down with Enneagram teacher and Enneagram theorist Joey Schewee, author of the upcoming When Working Together Doesn’t Work: An Enneagram Guide to Productive Relationships with Coworkers. Together they dig into m…
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"Inside Story" | Jeff Cook Enneagram 1 : Part Two
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51:23Subscribe to the Inside Story : HERE Become a Member of ATC : HERE In this episode, Kristin Messegee sits down with ATC host Jeff Cook to learn Type One from the inside out. They start with the inner critic—“like being tumbled by a six-foot wave”—and why Ones wish for an edit button in real life. Jeff shares how verbal processing helps his intuitio…
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"Early Access" | Enneagram 1 | Veronica in Chicago
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48:54Katie sits down with Veronica, a 32-year-old Enneagram One and R&D scientist in Chicago, to trace how Ones learn to trust their gut, make room for gray, and respond to what’s needed. Veronica shares her path into the Enneagram, the “responsive stance” in a family with no assertive types, and why Ones often look “negative” when they’re actually reac…
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"Inside Story" | Jeff Cook Enneagram 1 : Part One
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56:43Subscribe to the Inside Story : HERE Become a Member of ATC : HERE In this episode, Kristin Messegee sits down with ATC host Jeff Cook to learn Type One from the inside out. They start with the inner critic—“like being tumbled by a six-foot wave”—and why Ones wish for an edit button in real life. Jeff shares how verbal processing helps his intuitio…
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"Early Access" | Enneagram 2 | Becca in Colorado
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38:04Link to our Workshop on Excess | HERE Up next, 2s! Rebecca Dollard, founder of The Motherhood Mentor, is a somatic healing practitioner that helps high-achieving women and mothers who “have it all together” but feel disconnected inside. Through somatic healing, nervous-system-based coaching, and enneagram she guides them to expand their capacity, s…
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Episode #18: Lead With Heart: The Power and Pitfalls of The Feeling Center
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46:44Every entrepreneur makes decisions through the lens of emotion, connection, and identity, but how you navigate those feelings can make or break your results. In the second part of the three-part series Risk, Decisions & Action: How Your Enneagram Center Drives Your Business Moves, Margot Zaher explores the Heart (Feeling) Center of the Enneagram—Ty…
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"Inside Story" | TJ Wilson | Enneagram 9
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1:30:41LINKS TO THE NEW FEED: Inside Story on Spotify: HERE Inside Story on iTunes: HERE __ On this Episode, We’re kicking off Our New Podcast "Inside Story" by turning the mic toward ATC co-host T.J. Wilson (Type Nine). This is a spacious, honest conversation about Nine life from inside —how “gut knowing” actually shows up, why autonomy matters so much t…
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"Early Access" | Enneagram 9 | Andrew in Texas
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35:30FOR THE REST OF THE EPISODE : GO HERE Or simply search for "Early Access" on you podcast platform of choice. ___ Up next: 9s! In this week’s episode, Katie talks to Rev. Andrew Bowles (he/him), a Certified Narrative Enneagram Teacher, professional member of the International Enneagram Association, ordained minister, and experienced healthcare chapl…
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The Enneagram Podcast Channel | And All the Other Big Stuff at ATC
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17:22Many of you know we have a handful of things going on both personally and here at ATC; this is all the fun stuff and hard stuff. In this podcast we’ll be talking about everything from the end of one chapter to the opening of another. You can see all our new Podcast feeds at Our Enneagram Channel : HERE Quick Links: Saturday Online Workshops Free me…
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Jeff and TJ sit down with Kristin Messegee—an Enneagram Six coach and the host of Life Uninhibited—to announce her new narrative-style show, "Inside Story" joining the ATC family of podcasts. We talk why real growth needs empathy, why stories teach better than diagrams, and how narrative Enneagram work helps us become emotional adults. • Subscribe …
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Early Access | Enneagram 8 | Meaghan in Portland
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48:26Early Access on iTunes: HERE Early Access on Spotify: HERE Enneagram and Gender Discussion : HERE Music is by GIANTS AND PILGRIMS Katie's Work : HERE Continuing her journey around the Enneagram, Katie talks to Meaghan, a freelance American Sign Language interpreter who loves traveling, new restaurants, and advocating for the deaf community. We talk…
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Mistyping Twos | Part Two with Jackie Contessa
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1:04:19Jeff sits back down with Enneagram coach Jackie Contessa to walk through mistyping between twos and threes through nines. If this helps, check the full Mistyping Chart Jackie co-authored in the back of our book Around the Circle . Or find Jackie at @tablefornineco and jackieccesa.com.
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Generations | Boomer, Silent, Greatest with Tyler Zach
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55:36Link to the upcoming EnneaSummit : HERE Link to all of our other work : HERE Jeff sits down with Tyler Zach to preview his upcoming Midlife Summit (Oct 21–24). They dig into why “midlife has a branding problem,” the U-curve of happiness, and how the second half can move us from productivity to fruitfulness. Tyler shares tear-worthy moments from the…
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Early Access with Katie Whitlock | Michael - Enneagram 7
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46:25Early Access on iTunes: HERE Early Access on Spotify: HERE Music is by GIANTS AND PILGRIMS Our inaugural Episode! In this discussion on Early Access, host Katie Whitlock sits down with her close friend Michael —an Ironman-in-training, soon-to-be husband, and a reluctant but curious student of the Enneagram.…
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Like the Enneagram, our Generation--its technologies and events--shape how we see the world. In this conversation with Katie Whitlock, we will be exploring the values and cultural markers of Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z, weaving together films, music, shared culture, and the defining experiences that mark each era. Connect with us at www.aroundthe…
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Get connect to all our work at www.aroundthecircle.org In this episode, Jeff sits down with counselor Ben from Los Angeles for a live Enneagram mistyping session—could he be a principled One, a justice-driven Eight, or an analytical Five? From his early years in LA to a career in corrections and counseling, Ben shares stories of resilience, account…
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Episode #17: Trust Your Instinct: The Power & Pitfalls of the Gut Center
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29:12Every entrepreneur makes hundreds of decisions each week, but how you make them is what drives your results. In the kickoff of the three-part series Risk, Decisions & Action: How Your Enneagram Center Drives Your Business Moves, Margot Zaher explores the Gut (Body) Center of the Enneagram - Types 8, 9, and 1. Discover how instinct shapes risk-takin…
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Like the Enneagram, our Generation--its technologies and events--shape how we see the world. In this conversation with Katie Whitlock, we will be exploring the values and cultural markers of Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z, weaving together films, music, shared culture, and the defining experiences that mark each era. Connect with us at www.aroundthe…
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Mistyping | Sandy from Chicago | 4, 5 or 9
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1:22:35See all of our best material at: aroundthecircle.org ! In this Mistyping session, Sandy from Chicago—a leadership and development coach—traces how infertility,and a bruising conservatory experience pushed her from “just tell me what to do” health coaching into deeper inner work. We talk holding space for grief without “positivity bullying,” growing…
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Like the Enneagram, our Generation--its technologies and events--shape how we see the world. In this conversation with Katie Whitlock, we will be exploring the values and cultural markers of Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z, weaving together films, music, shared culture, and the defining experiences that mark each era. In this episode we tackle Gen X:…
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Mistyping | Elliot from the UK | 9, 1 or 6
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48:08Jeff sits down with Elliot, a Kiwi in London. They trace Elliot’s deconstruction and church life, his work building inclusive spaces, and how the Enneagram has helped him sort clarity from certainty.
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Episode #16: From Burnout to Breakthrough: Harnessing Your Enneagram Type for Lasting Motivation
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39:26Ever wonder why some days you feel unstoppable, and other days you can’t summon an ounce of energy, no matter how hard you push? Burnout and motivation aren’t random; they’re deeply connected to the patterns of your Enneagram type. In this episode of The Enneagram Edge, host Margot Zaher breaks down how each of the nine types uniquely experiences b…
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Dr. Sam Greenberg | Sex and The Enneagram
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1:05:33Sexuality isn’t just behavior—it’s an internal experience. We sit down with researcher-coach Dr. Sam Greenberg to map how Enneagram type and instincts shape desire, cues, assertiveness, and intimacy. Sam outlines the gifts and challenges of each instinct, why instincts often predict sexual patterns more than type, how repressed instincts show up in…
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Mistyping | Tami from MI | 3, 4, 5, or 6
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1:15:52Tammy joins Jeff for a live mistyping session that moves from opera halls to IT dashboards—and into the deep stuff beneath type. A lifelong Michigander with three degrees, a choir section-leader, and a self-described “walking contradiction,” Tammy is blunt and kind, fiercely independent, and devoted to care (for people…and five cats). Together we e…
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Ancient Wisdom and Modern Practices with Belinda Gore
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58:42Learn more about Belinda Gore HERE! Join us as we explore the intersection of the Enneagram and ancient wisdom with Belinda. Discover how ancient practices and the Enneagram's insights into personality can guide us toward deeper self-awareness and connection with the natural world. Belinda shares her journey and practical rituals that help cultivat…
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Sarina Sherring | Enneagram Coach | 20 Questions
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55:16Jeff had a stellar conversation with Enneagram Coach, Spiritual Director and Founder @reflecttheoriginal , Sarina Sherring. You can connect to her work here: www.reflecttheoriginal.au For the full interview go to: aroundthecircle.org
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Mistyping | Amanda from Michigan | 2, 9 or 4?
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1:17:02This week we are joined by Amanda from Michigan. This was an excellent conversation! If you are interested in our mistyping guide : GO HERE The guide is only in the print version.
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TJ Teems | Professional Counselor | Enneagram Two
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47:12This is a wonderful interview with the fantastic TJ Teems. Tj is a professional Enneagram Counselor in California. You can connect with her : HERE Sign up for a membership to all of our stuff : HERE
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Mistyping | Griffin in Texas | 1, 3, 4 or 7
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1:04:30This one felt more difficult and we spent a lot of time looking not only at 1347, but you will hear a lot of questions for 2 and 6 as well. Jump in, tell us your thoughts on Spotify comments or on our website. __ The mistyping guide is **EXCLUSIVELY** in the print version of the book. And can be found here: https://a.co/d/g7jBNnj…
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Carl Jung famously stated, "The greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents." In this episode, Michael, Rasanath, and Vipin explore the connection between ego and parenting, and how unresolved ambitions, unmet needs, and unconscious identities quietly influence the way we raise our children. These inner dynamics lead us to …
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Learn more about Ben HERE ORDER OUR BOOK OUT: HERE Get Enneagram Certified HERE. www.theartofgrowth.org Email us your thoughts and questions! Follow us on Instagram at ArtofGrowth for more on this subject this month and let us know what you are doing. Go to our website to sign up for: Corporate Training One-on-one coaching Enneagram Certification A…
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"Heroes" | Type 7 | Robin Williams Concluded
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28:14We continue our deep dive into Heroes in film, this time choosing to elevate a singular actor. If you are interested in seeing info about the Weld County Food Bank : GO HERE You can connect with us and see all our best stuff at : aroundthecircle.org And check out Movie Typing : HEREBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Mistyping | Lauren in Texas | 6, 8 or 1
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1:10:04If you are interested in doing a mistyping recording with Jeff, become a Member at www.aroudthecircle.org and send us a message on our website. We would love to talk with you!By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Do check out our book as a resource, especially the last 100 pages which are dedicated to mistyping. FIND IT HEREBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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IFS and the Enneagram with Guest Joan Ryan
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53:39Learn more about Joan Ryan HERE. ORDER OUR BOOK OUT: HERE Get Enneagram Certified HERE. www.theartofgrowth.org Email us your thoughts and questions! Follow us on Instagram at ArtofGrowth for more on this subject this month and let us know what you are doing. Go to our website to sign up for: Corporate Training One-on-one coaching Enneagram Certific…
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"Heroes" | Type 7 | Robin Williams | Part III ("Birdcage," "Good Will Hunting" and "What Dreams May Come")
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1:01:46We continue our deep dive into Heroes in film, this time choosing to elevate a singular actor. If you are interested in seeing info about the Weld County Food Bank : GO HERE You can connect with us and see all our best stuff at : aroundthecircle.org And check out Movie Typing : HEREBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Episode #15: Unlocking Innovation: How Your Enneagram Type Gets Stuck (and How to Break Free to Stand Out)
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30:50Are you playing it safe instead of standing out? Innovation isn’t just for tech giants or creatives—it’s essential for every entrepreneur who wants to thrive, not just survive. In this episode, we're diving deep into the hidden blocks each Enneagram type faces when it comes to innovation—and the exact mindset shift you need to finally break through…
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Mistyping | Danielle Reassessed | Type 6 or 7?
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41:45We continue our series of conversations with our friends looking to find their enneagram type. _____ Our Start Here Podcast and our Basics series is : HERE All our Best material is at aroundthecircle.orgBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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"Heroes" | Type 7 | Robin Williams | Part II
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1:06:59We continue our deep dive into Heroes in film, this time choosing to elevate a singular actor. If you are interested in seeing info about the Weld County Food Bank : GO HERE You can connect with us and see all our best stuff at : aroundthecircle.orgBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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[Part 2] Book Distribution: Timeless Lessons Learned By Two Monks on the Streets and Subways of New York City
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1:02:06In Part 2, Hari Prasada and Rasanath vividly share what it was like in the heat of the moment distributing books in the streets and subways of New York City. They open up more about pivotal struggles they faced, including feeling humiliation and imposter syndrome, and how letting go in the spirit of service made room for the transformation we all c…
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Mistyping | Danielle in Ottawa | 5 or 7?
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1:00:20We continue our series of conversations with our friends looking to find their enneagram type. _____ Our Start Here Podcast and our Basics series is : HERE All our Best material is at aroundthecircle.org Our conversation with Joel Stabile is HERE Our Conversation with Jackie Brewster is HEREBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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"Heroes" | Type 7 | Robin Williams | Part I
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1:56:37We continue our deep dive into Heroes in film, this time choosing to elevate a singular actor. If you are interested in seeing info about the Weld County Food Bank : GO HERE You can connect with us and see all our best stuff at : aroundthecircle.orgBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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