Best Dechurched Podcasts (2025)

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Episode 11: Social Justice and the Gospel 1:07:22

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Our world is full of tension—questions about identity, culture, and faith are everywhere. How should the church respond? On the latest White Wing Messenger Podcast, Bishop Shaun McKinley unpacks his article “Ambassadors on Mission” and reminds us that our calling isn’t fear or fury—it’s reconciliation. Discover how to engage culture with conviction…

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Gospel Roundtable - New Covenant Grace: What The Church Ignores (114) 56:22

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Four believers (Joel Brueseke, Amber Stephens, Mike Kapler, and Mike Adams) sit down for a powerful and honest conversation about grace, the New Covenant, and why mixing Law with performance is hurting people in the church. No titles, no pulpits, no sermons—just real talk about what it means to live in the finished work of Christ. We talk about: Gr…

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Episode 10: Reaching the Unchurched and Dechurched 1:16:46

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In this powerful episode of the White Wing Messenger Podcast, Marsha Robinson sits down with Pastor Stacy Tuttle and Pastor Charles Shepherd to explore how the Church can extend grace beyond its walls. Pastor Tuttle, author of “Won’t You Be My Neighbor?” in the July issue of the White Wing Messenger, shares a heartfelt vision for engaging our physi…

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Community Without Roll Call: Exchanging Freedom For a Contract (113) 1:53:37

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Is signing a formal church membership contract a necessary expression of loyalty? Has the institutional church traded the freedom of life in Christ for institutional control? In this episode I explore how formal membership contracts — often loaded with behavioral clauses, doctrinal checkpoints, and institutional loyalty — distort the gospel of grac…

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Church Bullying: When Faith Turns Into Fear (112) 1:14:30

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What happens when church becomes a breeding ground for control, fear, and manipulation? This episode of The UnSunday Show exposes the patterns of church bullying, from toxic leadership to spiritual abuse that often occurs when the institutional church abandons the New Covenant gospel of grace in favor of a mixed-covenant version of a gospel of thei…

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Episode 9: Called, Equipped, and Connected 41:37

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The White Wing Messenger Podcast Do you know everyone has a calling? In this thought-provoking episode, Marsha Robinson welcomes Dr. Michael Hernandez, president of Spirit and Life Seminary and director of Accredited Ministry Development, to discuss one of the most foundational questions of faith: What are you called to do? With heart and laser-foc…

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Twisting the Truth: Headship and Submission (111) 45:18

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I'm continuing the topic of women in the church and how historically, the church's view of woman has been harmful and abusive. It's not a good track record. This is the fourth of four episodes that I brought over from our Grace Cafe podcast to share with you here. In this episode we talk about headship and submission. We use 1 Corinthians 11 and Ep…

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Twisting the Truth: Did The Law of Moses Silence Women? (110) 31:23

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This is part 3 of a 4-part series I'm doing on Women in the church that originally aired on the Grace Cafe podcast in 2023. In this episode we're going to take a careful look at 1 Corinthians 14:34-40. It's here that the passage says the law commanded women to be silent, therefore, women should not be allowed to speak when the body of Christ is ass…

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Episode 8: Designing Digital Evangelism 17:18

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If you have been wanting to listen to a great podcast but just didn't think you had the time, this is your opportunity! We've got a quick, 17-minute, power-packed episode of the White Wing Messenger podcast ready for you to listen to and download. Episode 8: Designing Digital Evangelism Host: Marsha Robinson, Managing Editor Guest: Pastor Charlie S…

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Twisting the Truth: How Church Uses Scripture to Silence Women - Part Two (109) 43:11

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In this episode we continue talking about the topic of how the institutional box church misrepresents and misinterprets passages of scripture that mention women in the body of Christ. We take a look at the historical and cultural context of Paul's first letter to Timothy and specifically, 1 Timothy chapter 2. In giving his reasons for writing this …

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Twisting the Truth: How Church Uses Scripture to Silence Women - Part One (108) 41:03

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This is part one of four episodes I'm bringing over from the Grace Cafe podcast on the topic of women in the church and how institutional Christianity uses scripture out of context to silent women. Here's a breakdown of the episodes I'm bringing over: Twisting the Truth: How Church Uses Scripture to Silence Women - Part One (this episode). Twisting…

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What Happens When You Stop Going To Church? (107) 1:35:12

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Let's talk about what happens when we stop going to church. This is from the livestream that I did on May 4th, 2025 on YouTube. Here's the link in case you want to watch the video: https://www.youtube.com/live/CHWejf9tjwk?si=tQtWdw1Jzf3VubJe You can follow the UnSunday Show on YouTube at: https://www.youtube.com/@unsundayshow Other Places You’ll Fi…

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Episode 7: The Call: To Send and Support 48:20

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Join podcast host Managing Editor Marsha Robinson as we end the month of April with a roundtable discussion of this month’s White Wing Messenger. You will hear from three leaders in the Church of God of Prophecy—Dr. Bishop Shaun McKinley, executive director of Global Communications, Debbie Freeman, registrar for Spirit and Life Seminary, and Bishop…

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Stuck in Moses (106) 14:53

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The video version of this episode is on my YouTube channel at https://youtu.be/H89bdlfkwHg In this episode I share a quote from Michael C. Kapler's book, Clash of the Covenants: Escaping Religious Bondage Through the Grace Guarantee. This is an excellent book that I recommend without hesitation. You can find it on Amazon at https://bit.ly/3Rump8V I…

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Grace Alone: The Freedom of Bringing Nothing to the Table (105) 10:17

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The gospel isn’t a group project. If grace is free, why do we try so hard to add to it? In this episode, I talk about how bringing nothing to the table isn’t a burden but is ultimate freedom. Grace apart from works is a death sentence for institutional religion that can't be tolerated there. Let's talk about grace! Other Places You’ll Find Me The G…

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Sweating for Jesus? Why Sanctification Isn’t About Working Harder (104) 17:00

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Holiness Isn’t a Hustle. Many believers feel trapped in a cycle of performance, thinking sanctification is about sweating for Jesus. Too often, we’re taught that sanctification, or holiness, is about working harder, doing more, and proving ourselves to God. But what if it isn’t about striving to do more but about resting in what's already been done…

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Breaking the Pulpit Barrier: Freeing the Body of Christ (103) 20:32

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"The moment the church of God shall despise the pulpit, God will despise her." -Charles Spurgeon The pulpit is in the way. Pulpits have a long history of being an obstacle that is in the way of the Body of Christ functioning as God intends for it to function. When the Body of Christ is gathered together are we limited to the voice of one person beh…

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Episode 6: Unwavering on Mission 59:25

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This is a very special March edition of our podcast featuring Managing Editor Marsha Robinson and Dr. Cathy Payne, Global Missions Coordinator. In this episode, they discuss what is taking place in each of the seven continental areas the COGOP is ministering around the world. From powerful testimonies to miraculous provision to reports of new churc…

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Why Can't I Read My Bible Anymore? (102) 11:31

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"I don't want to read my Bible anymore. Is there something wrong with me? I need to fix this!" This is a common theme that happens when we leave the institutional box church. Many times, any desire to read the Bible disappears and we start to think there's something wrong with us that needs fixed. We tend to think that losing a desire to have a reg…

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The Lie of a Deceitful and Desperately Wicked Heart (101) 19:36

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Let's talk about Jeremiah 17:9 and his statement that the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Is it true? Are our hearts deceitful and wicked and not to be trusted or is there more to that description that needs clarification? Let's talk. Other Places You’ll Find Me The Grace Cafe Podcast: https://www.gracecafepodcast.com Ti…

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Episode 5: Living Missionally in Everyday Life 1:22:36

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This is the February 2025 White Wing Messenger podcast. Listen in and hear February authors Suprina Howard Robinson, Jeff Jones, Bishop Todd Bagley, and Evan Jones share their thoughts about this month’s theme, “Living Missionally in Everyday Life.” The White Wing Messenger is the official publication of the Church of God of Prophecy. Subscribe tod…

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Tradition Gave Us The Word Pastor (100) 20:39

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Welcome to episode 100 of The UnSunday Show! I was so focused in this episode on what I wanted to say that I forgot to mention this is episode 100. Triple digits! Yay!!! This is the final episode on the subject of pastors, elders, and shepherds. In this episode I talked about how the word pastors, which only appears in Ephesians 4:11, was a result …

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Are Elders Pastors? Yes and No (99) 33:35

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This episode is a continuation of last week's as we turn our attention to the topic of elders in the body of Christ. Elders, overseers, shepherds, bishops, and pastors. How are these terms used in the New Covenant scriptures and are they related in some way? Let's sort these out in this episode. Other Places You’ll Find Me The Grace Cafe Podcast: h…

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Do Pastors Have a Special Calling? (98) 31:06

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Do institutional church pastors have a special calling to be pastors? Let's take an honest look at this in light of the New Testament scriptures. Other Places You’ll Find Me The Grace Cafe Podcast: https://www.gracecafepodcast.com TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@unsunday.mike Instagram https://www.instagram.com/unsundayshow YouTube https://www.youtu…

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Episode 4: Prayer: The Foundation of Mission 47:23

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In the January installment of the White Wing Messenger Podcast, Managing Editor Marsha Robinson talks with North America General Presbyter Bishop Dr. Brian Sutton about the importance and impact of prayer in God’s kingdom. The theme of the January issue of the White Wing Messenger is "Prayer: The Foundation of Mission" and includes the prayer point…

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Episode 3: A World of Christmas 42:58

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In this episode, Managing Editor Marsha Robinson speaks with three Church of God of Prophecy leaders about their engaging, informative articles in the December White Wing Messenger. The theme of this colorful, festive magazine is "A World of Christmas." It is full of images and stories of traditions, memories, and Jesus! Listen in and read the maga…

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Covenant Confusion: A Conversation With Mike Kapler (97) 1:04:28

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This episode of the UnSunday Show is a conversation from the 2018 archives of The Grace Cafe podcast that Mike had with Mike Kapler of the Growing in Grace podcast. It centers around the content of Mike Kapler's book, Clash Of The Covenants: Escaping Religious Bondage Through The Grace Guarantee. We talked about many topics that often lead to confu…

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Episode 2: Revival 1:12:48

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In this episode, Managing Editor Marsha Robinson speaks with father/son ministers, Dr. Brian Sutton and Pastor Will Sutton about the November White Wing Messenger article, “Becoming a Church with Impact,” followed by a talk with Florida State Bishop Scott Gillum, who gives an update on COGOP members and churches in Florida and discusses his Novembe…

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Introducing: The Everyday Pastor 1:02

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The Everyday Pastor is a new podcast from TGC on the nuts and bolts of ministry. Hosted by Ligon Duncan, with nearly 20 years of pastoral experience, and Matt Smethurst, who planted a church three years ago, it seeks to model how ministers of different generations, levels of experience, and even denominations can apply God’s never-changing Word in …

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Episode 1: On Mission Around the World 41:27

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In this inaugural episode of the White Wing Messenger podcast, Managing Editor Marsha Robinson has as her guests COGOP Presiding Bishop Tim Coalter, as well as General Presbyter of Asia, Australia, and Oceania Dr. Tim McCaleb, and Global Missions Ministries Coordinator Dr. Cathy Payne with administrative Assistant Stephanie Roberts. They discuss th…

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Mike's Health Update (96) 11:35

1+ y ago11:35

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I recorded this conversation with my wife on The Grace Cafe podcast but am posting it here as well. It's a short health update from yours truly. Push play and give it a listen and thank you for following my podcasts! I was recently invited to speak on the Grace at Last podcast with Corinne Kinstler on the subject of women in the church. I would rea…

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Declaration of Conformity: Formal Church Membership’s Hidden Agenda (95) 19:05

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I was installing a couple of lights in my garage and when I opened one of the boxes, a paper fell out with the heading at the top that read: FCC's Supplier's Declaration of Conformity So naturally, my mind went to formal church membership because at its core, formal church membership is a declaration of conformity. So let's talk. Links I mention to…

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The Debilitating Delusion of Institutional Religion, With Trent Antle (94) 59:49

1+ y ago59:49

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I asked Trent Antle to join me on this episode of the UnSunday Show because I wanted to hear more his story and I wanted others to have that same opportunity. After 20 years as a pastor in the institutional church setting, Trent began to see through the facade of propped-up religion as his eyes were being opened more and more to the New Covenant go…

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Why Is The Church So Captivated by the Law and the 10 Commandments? (93) 17:45

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Why is the modern church so captivated by the 10 Commandments when the New Covenant scriptures tell us plainly that the Law has been fulfilled and abolished? One reason is the theological systems we subscribe to that have the Law and the 10 Commandments as their centerpiece. One such system is Covenant Theology. I also mentioned in this episode tha…

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Old Covenant Imperatives Don't Belong in the New Covenant (92) 7:41

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This episode is the audio I pulled from a video I just did. I came across a post in one of my social media feeds where a church had posted Joshua 1:8 as a memory verse for its people to memorize this week. The passage reads, "Do not let this Book of the Law depart from your mouth. Meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do every…

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The False Doctrine of Top-Down Authority and Honorific Titles (91) 29:47

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Welcome to episode 91 of The UnSunday Show. In this episode I take a hard look at top-down authority and the use of honorific titles in the body of Christ. These things are not neutral and in fact, they do harm to the body of Christ by choosing to ignore the clear directives of Jesus concerning these important topics. In short, they prevent the bod…

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Top Theology Stories of 2023 with Collin Hansen and Melissa Kruger 1:30:34

1+ y ago1:30:34

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Join Collin Hansen and Melissa Kruger for their annual recap discussion on the biggest stories affecting the church around the world in the last year. This conversation was originally featured on TGC's Gospelbound podcast.By Melissa Kruger, Collin Hansen

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Welcome to the Real World (90) 25:25

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In this episode of the UnSunday Show, I ramble on about some important things that have been on my mind recently concerning institutional church and its inability to reflect the heart of Jesus and his kingdom in the world. Other Places You’ll Find Me The Grace Cafe Podcast: https://www.gracecafepodcast.com TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@unsunday.mi…

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My Interview on The Grace At Last Podcast (89) 0:44

2y ago0:44

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This is a short announcement to let you know I was interviewed on the Grace at Last podcast and that episode is out! I had a great conversation there with Corinne Kinstler, host of the Grace at Last podcast as we talked about church, the New Covenant, and a host of other topics along the way. Go check it out at: https://www.lastministry.org/grace-a…

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Trevin Wax on Reconstructing Faith 45:01

2y ago45:01

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In this final season episode of As in Heaven, Jim Davis and Michael Graham are joined by Trevin Wax to discuss what it looks like to help individuals reconstruct their faith and for evangelicals—as a movement—to rebuild their witness. This episode is part of As in Heaven’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest relig…

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What Does "Study to Show Yourself Approved" Mean? (88) 12:06

2y ago12:06

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Welcome to episode 88 of The UnSunday Show. Today we're going to talk about 2 Timothy 2:15. This is another verse in a long list of verses that has been taken out of context and weaponized by institutional religion to mean something that it was never intended to mean. Here it is in the King James Version: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a…

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How to Be a Missional and Confessional Church That Motivates People for Faithful Ministry 55:59

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In this final episode of season three of As in Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome Irwyn Ince to discuss the value of churches that seek to be both missional and confessional. When churches seek to hold both of these things in harmony, they become places that people won't want to leave. Episode time stamps: Episode and guest introduc…

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How to Faithfully Engage the Dechurched Movement as a Church in Exile 54:18

2y ago54:18

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In this episode of As in Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Michael Graham welcome Jake Meador to discuss the merits of having a posture of a "church in exile." They explore how this exilic posture could help us close the back door of the church and regain our prophetic voice. Episode time stamps: Episode and guest introduction (0:00) Moving from empire t…

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Perspectives on American Dechurching from Post-Christian Europe 46:36

2y ago46:36

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In this episode of As In Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Michael Graham welcome Andrew Wilson and Glen Scrivener to discuss European perspectives on dechurching in America, drawing from insights in the UK, Australia, and Italy to compare and contrast the dechurching movement. Episode time stamps: Episode and topic introduction (0:00) Losing cultural pr…