Two dads discussing baby loss, coping with life, and working their way through grief. Liam and Matt found there was no support for dads to help them process their grief, prepare for what was to come next, and help them to support their partners. So, they teamed up to create this podcast which provides the tools to help bereaved dads on their journey after losing a child. If you would like to contact us you can do so via our social media pages (@dadstillstanding) or email dadstillstandingpodc ...
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Grieve with Christ After Loss | Christian Grief Support, Processing Grief, Faith After Loss, Healing After Losing a Loved One, Parent Loss
Kaitlyn Buck - Certified Christian Life Coach, Kingdom Grief Mentor, Christian Grief Coach, Spiritual Growth Mentor, Christian Mindset Coach, Christian Mental Health Coach
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A Christian grief podcast for women ready to heal through faith. Are you a Christian woman navigating the pain of losing a loved one? Do you feel overwhelmed by grief—like it’s easier to avoid it than to face it? Maybe you’re struggling with loneliness, emotional triggers, or wondering if you’re grieving the “right” way. You’re not alone—and you don’t have to walk this road without Christ. Welcome to Grieve with Christ After Loss—a podcast for Christian women seeking biblical grief support, ...
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Two fathers. Two stories of loss. One mission to get back up. Real conversations with two men learning to navigate life, raise children, and find love again…after loss. Hosted by Jamal Jones and David McClain, Getting Back Up: Life after Death is a real, raw, and often humorous podcast about what comes after the unthinkable—losing a partner, facing grief, and finding your way through it. As two widowers, now devoted girl dads (and one remarried man), Jamal and David create space for honest c ...
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I used to think that being a good dad was all about managing the chaos. Providing, being a good husband, feeding the dogs, volunteering at school, and making sure the homework gets done. And, if you can do all that in a nice suburban neighborhood, you're probably really doing well. I checked these boxes on most days and figured I was doing alright. Then, on Nov. 1, 2015, my daughter Galia said "Dad, my leg hurts." I thought it was nothing; it turns out it was something. Acute Myeloid Leukemi ...
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When pediatrician mom of three, Marcy Larson's 14 yo son, Andy, was killed in a car accident in 2018, she felt like her life was over. In many ways, that life was over, and a new one forced to begin in its place. Come alongside her as she works through this journey of healing. She discusses grief and child loss with other grieving parents and those who work to help them in their grief. This podcast is for grieving parents as well as those who support them.
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The Sad Moms is a community for the grieving from the heart of a bereaved mother. This is a space for grieving parents where we can be open and honest about our grief. In each episode, we’ll have raw, heartfelt conversations with other parents who have experienced unimaginable loss. Together, we’ll share our stories, talk about the things only we truly understand, and find connection. If you have ever felt alone in your grief, know that you’re not. We’re here, we’re listening, and we’re here ...
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The Pregnancy Loss and Motherhood Podcast is a healing space for loss moms navigating stillbirth as well as any type of loss, pregnancy after loss, motherhood after loss, and personal growth. Hosted by Vallen Webb, each episode offers real talk, mindset support, grief tools, and empowering conversations to help you grieve, grow, and reclaim your motherhood story.
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Welcome to the gang, the one you never asked to be part of. The Grief Gang podcast was born from heartbreak but thrives on connection. Created by host Amber Jeffrey after the unexpected loss of her mother at just 19, this show dives headfirst into the messy, confusing, and sometimes even humorous world of grief. Amber started this journey to find people who “just get it” and to share the ever-changing experience of living with loss. Through raw and relatable storytelling, Amber shares her hi ...
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The concept of Our Dead Dads was born through the daily discussions of seven men who share bonds of blood, friendship and all having lost their fathers. Nick Gaylord, the show’s host, shares his life experiences with his deceased father while exploring the complications and realities of that relationship. Life is intense, grief and loss come in many forms, and no parent-child relationship is black and white, which is why this show touches on all shades of grey. Join Nick for candid conversat ...
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Our goal is to spread dad positivity to fathers everywhere. Modern dads face a lot of complex issues and don’t always get the support they need. We want to provide a healthy, uplifting podcast to dads who are looking for a little more, while also having insightful conversations and learning ourselves.
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Welcome to Dying Laughing — the comedy podcast that explores grief in all its messy, magical, and mortifying glory. Hosted by stand-up comedian, Netflix host, and professional grief reliever Jessimae Peluso aka your favorite “griefluencer” — this show dares to laugh in the face of death, because if you’re not laughing, you’re crying in a Marshall’s fitting room while listening to Fleetwood Mac on repeat. You’re going to lose a lot in this life: your loved ones, your job, your dog (way harder ...
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Welcome to Keeping Your Power® with Traci Doula! Where the power of beliefs becomes fierce resilience. Join Traci, a bold and beloved birth doula, mentor, life coach, and empathy-filled advocate, as she dives into raw, real, and redemptive conversations about overcoming life’s hardest challenges. From birth trauma to toxic family dynamics, adoption journeys to professional burnout, Traci shares insights drawn from 20+ years of experience and a life forged in fire. Through powerful storytelli ...
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An outreach of The Empty Chair Endeavor designed to support and equip grieving parents and siblings in rediscovering hope, purpose, and joy after unspeakable tragedy. Additionally, our mission involves educating the public about the life altering impact the death of a child has upon survivors, both parents and siblings, and equipping them to better support and minister to them. Join us as guests share their stories of heartbreaking loss and how God has shown up on their journeys to restore h ...
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Broken to Blessed | Addiction Recovery, Marriage + Divorce, Anxiety, Depression for Christians, Mental Health Support
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Do you feel completely broken? Are you facing obstacles like addiction, depression, anxiety, divorce, grief, or all of the above? And you’re awake at night, wondering how you’re going to overcome it all? Hi there, I’m Randi, a work in progress. My battles have been many, from addiction to depression and most recently: divorce. I’ve felt lost and broken, and wondered how I was going to survive. But God is bigger than our problems, and if you’re walking a dark season, know that there is peace ...
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My goal right from the beginning was that I wanted it to be a podcast that, when it stopped, you didn’t feel worse,” says Cariad Lloyd, host of Griefcast, a weekly interview podcast where media personalities share stories about loved ones they've lost. “We’re all in this club that no one asked to join, and it’s really helpful when you realize there’s other people in the club. Part of grief is feeling quite isolated, so when you realize, ‘Oh, it's not just me,’ It does help.” In each episode, ...
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Experiencing the profound loss of a spouse while navigating the intricate realm of "only-parenting" is a challenge unlike any other. Remember, though, you’re not journeying alone. Jenny Lisk, who stepped into solo parenting following the devastating loss of her husband to brain cancer, established the Widowed Parent Institute to shine a light, extend a hand, and share vital resources. The Widowed Parent Podcast embodies that commitment, providing a mix of hope, practical wisdom, and shared e ...
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His version: Married and Unfiltered, is a Podcast/Vlog. Think married with single people tendencies. We'll tackle a range of topics that people deal with every day, but instead of sounding like your Mom, Dad, or Pastor, we'll bring it to you like your Crazy Uncle and Cool Aunt. Her version: Providing a safe space for couples or partners to live their truth. With so much judgment around what a relationship looks like, anxiety and stress pressure individuals to fit that mold. We want to show p ...
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Welcome to The Good Seed Podcast where we believe that through the right mindset and actions, nothing is impossible. Whether you're on a path of self-improvement or self-discovery, this podcast is designed to support and inspire you every step of the way. Our discussions cover a wide range of topics such as success, confidence, abundance, dating, loss, grief, and unlocking your potential. Rachel and Ally bring you genuine, heartfelt advice, ensuring every episode is filled with wisdom, encou ...
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The ‘Now What?’ podcast is a podcast for women healing from loss that will provide you with practical ways to overcome the challenges you are facing as you navigate the aftermath of loss. After spending 10 years in Financial Services preparing people for the unexpected, Host Erin Hente comes to you with the unfortunate experience of navigating four major sudden losses in a six year period including the loss of her husband. Her and her three children, who were 5, 8, and 15 when their dad died ...
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Pregnancy Uncut is dedicated to exploring the often hidden, untold and traumatic stories of pregnancies and births that have not gone to plan. Hosted by doctors working in Women's Health, Alex Umbers and Kara Thompson, Pregnancy Uncut provides a soft place for hard conversations on topics society has historically considered taboo. Each episode uncovers a unique story through the lens of a courageous guest with first hand experience in complications such as infertility, miscarriage, stillbirt ...
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It is no secret that Mothers are truly the unsung heroes of today’s families. The amount of work, errands, tasks, and support mothers do day in and day out is never-ending. It’s keeping the household and family running. It’s planning birthday parties and family activities. It’s running to the grocery store while waiting to pick up the dry cleaning. It’s making sure the kids and spouse have everything they need… often putting themselves and their health last. It can feel like an Invisible Bur ...
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On the 19th October 2022 my world changed forever, my beautiful Son and heir Jordan died in his sleep aged 41… One of the hardest things to take is that me and my son wasn’t speaking…people say it’s normal to feel guilty about that as Dads and Sons fall out all the time but I shouldn’t be riddled with guilt as I couldn’t predict his death plus guilt is just one facet of grieving ! Over the years I’ve had the sadness watching 6 mates I know bury their Sons and Daughters now I’m a member of th ...
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My story. Reflecting my experiences, observations and perspective - in my words. In the early spring of 2019, under the coercive influence of her abusive gatekeeper partner, in the heart of the global pandemic and after several years of trying to sort through our erratic relationship, my (young) adult daughter made the heartbreaking choice to cut all communication with our family. I understand now that for a very long time, through her high school and college years, she tried to get her mess ...
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The Stages Of Grief: Sadness and Shopping | Jessimae Peluso
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EPISODE 15: The Stages of Grief: Sadness & Shopping Dying Laughing with Jessimae (Rereleased episode from 2020) In this rereleased episode—recorded just weeks after my mom passed—I tried to make sense of the unthinkable by doing what any grieving comedian-slash-daughter might do: I put the fun in orphan. This is one of the first raw reflections I r…
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I feel like God arranges for certain guests to come on the podcast just when I need them most. On the day of this interview, I was particularly weepy, missing Andy even more than I normally do. I think God knew I needed someone to cry with, and Nancy was that someone. Nancy calls her son, Jacob, her Buddha baby, weighing 11 pounds 3 ounces at birth…
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As the nights draw in and the days get colder, many people notice their grief feels heavier. In this episode, we talk about how the change in seasons can affect our emotions, whether winter makes grief harder to carry, and why that might be the case. We explore Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD), the pressure of festive celebrations, and the way dar…
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The Healing Power of Flowers: Katie Hess on Flower Essences, Energy & Emotional Freedom
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In Episode 165 of the Fit Mother Project podcast, Dr. Anthony Balduzzi sits down with Katie Hess, founder of LOTUSWEI, to explore the gentle but powerful world of flower essences. They open with a clear distinction between flower essences and more familiar plant modalities like herbs and essential oils, then lay out how essences are made and why th…
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Send us a text Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1) Episode 13: We were ready to date...Or were we? In this episode, Jamal and Dave talk about what it was like to start dating after months of loneliness. After all, they were single fathers trying to focus on their kids, also realizing that there was something missing. Besides the pr…
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59| Anxiety Bible Verses When Grief Feels Overwhelming
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Anxiety Bible Verses When Grief Feels OverwhelmingSummary of the Episode: Grief doesn’t just break your heart—it can flood your mind with fear, panic, and racing thoughts that feel impossible to control. In this episode, I share three powerful Anxiety Bible Verses that have carried me through some of my heaviest moments after losing my dad. These S…
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Peeling the Onion One Layer At a Time (Layer 1) - Overview of Coercive Control and Estrangement
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Hi Listeners. I'd love to hear from you. Send an email to Janet@jesteinkamp. It is not possible to respond to your Fan Mail posts directly. In this episode of When Our Adult Children Walk Away, Dr. Janet Steinkamp helps you peel back the first layer of the topic of coercive control. If you’ve noticed your estranged adult child suddenly changing the…
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Kurin’s Journey: Navigating Miscarriage, Healing, and Becoming a Support for Other Moms
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EPISODE 11: Miscarriage, Resilience, and Finding Community — with Kurin In this episode, I sat down with Kurin, mom of three, influencer, content creator, and fellow doula, to talk about her journey through multiple miscarriages and what it looks like to turn pain into purpose. We talked about: The loneliness of her first miscarriage and how silenc…
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Grief and Laughter. At first glance, it may seem like these words could be considered polar opposites, but as we grieve, moments of laughter and joy can be a balm for the soul. The intense pain of grief oftentimes feels overwhelming. It is deep and dark, and it can feel like it will go on forever. I remember the first time that I laughed after Andy…
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The Birthday Grief Guide | Jessimae Peluso
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EPISODE 14: THE BIRTHDAY GRIEF GUIDE Dying Laughing with Jessimae What happens when your birthday rolls around… and your parents aren’t here to call, guilt-trip, or send a check? In this episode, Jessimae offers a brutally honest and hilarious guide to aging while grieving. From the Ghosts of Birthdays Past (Chuck E. Cheese, roulette, and Champagne…
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From Grief to Grit: How Community Made Babs’ Consistency Easy
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At 56, radiation therapist Babs Freeman shares how the Fit Mother Project helped her turn grief and burnout into strength, community, and joy. After losing close family members and taking time off work to heal, Babs found FMP in May 2024 and finally discovered the consistency and accountability that every other plan lacked. What started as “showing…
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Send us a text Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1) Episode 12: The Tough First Solo Decisions From what to make for dinner… to how to fill out “Mother” on a school form—those first solo decisions hit harder than expected. In this episode, Jamal and Dave talk through the early choices that reminded them they were doing life without …
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On this episode, Cheryl Davis, host of the Time for Mom podcast, shares her story of loss as a young mom whose heart was neither equipped nor prepared to deal with the grief of child loss. Cheryl’s is a story that represents over a million others just like hers every year in the U.S. suffering the death of a child by miscarriage. All too often, we …
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58| Is It Okay for Christians to Go to Therapy?
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Is It Okay for Christians to Go to Therapy?Summary of the Episode: Is going to therapy a sign of weak faith—or could it actually be a tool God uses to bring healing? In this episode, I open up about my own journey of wrestling with guilt, shame, and hesitation when I first considered counseling after losing my dad. For years, I believed the lie tha…
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A Father’s Love Beyond Loss: Grieving His Daughter (with Emily's Dad)
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In this deeply moving episode of The Sad Moms, we are joined by Jason, a grieving father who opens up about the profound pain and long-lasting sorrow of losing his daughter Emily. Jason provides a heartfelt overview of Emily's vibrant and creative spirit. He shares the tragic and sudden nature of Emily's illness, detailing how what seemed to be a n…
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Today's guest, Catherine, says that in many ways, she grieved for her daughter, Helen, not once but twice. The grieving began after she suffered complications during delivery, which led to seizures that began shortly after birth and multiple medical complications. Catherine grieved for the life she had hoped and dreamed of for Helen. Then, fourteen…
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The Stages of Grief: Pain and Guilt | Jessimae Peluso
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EPISODE 13: The Stages of Grief: Pain & Guilt Dying Laughing with Jessimae In this episode of Dying Laughing, Jessimae unpacks one of the heaviest stages of grief: pain and guilt. Recording from her sister’s garage, she reflects on her own guilt around not being there when either of her parents passed, and the obsessive cycle of woulda’s, coulda’s,…
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11. The Pressure to Move On...Or Just Move
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Send us a text Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1) Episode 11: The Pressure to Move On...or Just Move Everyone’s got opinions when you’re grieving—especially the folks who’ve never done it. In this episode, Jamal and Dave get real about the pressure to “move on” after losing a spouse. From advice that stings to silence that screams…
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57| When Grief Feels Like Drowning—These Anxiety Bible Verses Will Help You Breathe Again
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When Grief Feels Like Drowning—These Anxiety Bible Verses Will Help You Breathe AgainSummary of the Episode: Grief is heavy enough on its own—but when it collides with anxiety, it can feel suffocating. The racing thoughts, sleepless nights, and endless “what-ifs” can leave you wondering if you’ll ever feel peace again. If you’ve lost a parent and f…
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When the Green Monster Rears Its Head: Jealousy and Estrangement
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Hi Listeners. I'd love to hear from you. Send an email to Janet@jesteinkamp. It is not possible to respond to your Fan Mail posts directly. Jealousy is a natural emotion, and still, it can complicate an already painful estrangement. In this thoughtful episode, Dr. Janet helps parents and adult children understand the role jealousy plays in their st…
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From Teen Dad to Adoption Advocate: Tyler Baltierra's Raw Conversation on Grief and Resilience
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EPISODE 10: Healing After Adoption — with Tyler Baltierra In this episode, I sat down with Tyler Baltierra, who you might remember as MTV’s original Teen Mom birth dad, to talk about what it’s really like to heal after placing a child for adoption. Tyler opened up about the pain, guilt, and the long road of making sense of it all, especially while …
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Belief expansion. As they navigate life, all adults develop a core set of beliefs. When tragedy strikes, sometimes these core beliefs can be shaken. Some grieving people lose their sense of spirituality, while others gain a deeper, stronger faith after experiencing trauma. Dave was trained as a therapist, but nothing in his training prepared him fo…
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10: When the Calls Stop Coming...It's just me.
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Send us a text Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1) Episode 10: When the Calls Stop Coming...It's just me. The food stops showing up. The texts stop buzzing. The people who promised to be there… vanish. In this episode, Jamal and Dave open up about the moment the crowd fades and the real loneliness begins. They share their own stori…
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Child Loss and Work with Shelly Kolwinska, Margaret Roses’ Mom
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In this episode you’ll hear Shelly Kolwinska share her profound journey of grief following the stillbirth of her daughter, Margaret Rose. In our conversation we discuss the importance of community support for grieving parents and the unique services offered by The Child Loss Foundation. Shelly's personal story intertwines with her professional miss…
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EPISODE 12: The Struggle Is Real Dying Laughing with Jessimae In this episode of Dying Laughing, Jessimae takes on the messy, universal theme of struggle and proves it doesn’t have to define us. She answers fan-submitted questions about everything from navigating suicide loss, to the challenges of single parenting, to what it feels like to believe …
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56| Struggling to Heal? 4 Faith-Based Tools Every Grieving Christian Woman Needs
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Struggling to Heal? 4 Faith-Based Tools Every Grieving Christian Woman NeedsSummary of the Episode: Grief can feel like it takes over every part of your life—your body, your emotions, your relationships, and even your faith. The world often tells us to numb, avoid, or rush the pain. But what does it look like to process grief through a faith-based …
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Near the end of today's interview, my guest, Miranda, said one of the most beautiful sentences that I have ever heard from a bereaved mom, especially one who is only 9 months into her grief journey. Miranda said, "Denver's death is going to be my reason, not my excuse - my reason to get up, my reason to do, my reason to survive, and my reason to lo…
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9: Honoring A Life & Your Rite of Passage
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Send us a text Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1) Episode 9: Honoring A Life & Your Rite of Passage The church was full. Or maybe it was nearly empty. Either way, you stood there—grieving, performing, surviving. In this episode, Jamal and Dave reflect on the surreal experience of the services held for their late wives. From family…
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Parasite Cleansing 101 with Kim Rogers - a.k.a. “The Worm Queen”
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Episode 163 of the Fit Mother Project podcast is an eye‑opening conversation with Kim Rogers, of RogersHood, known online as the “Worm Queen.” Kim shares with Dr. Anthony Balduzzi how a lifelong struggle with endometriosis, surgeries, and undiagnosed Lyme led her to a viral parasite‑cleanse journey—and a mission to help others. Kim explains the rea…
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The Stages of Grief: Day Drinking | Jessimae Peluso
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EPISODE 11: THE STAGES OF GRIEF: DAY DRINKING In this throwback episode, I'm taking you back to 2020, just weeks after my mom died. I recorded this in my sister’s backyard with a Yeti cup full of red wine, a little weed, and a whole lot of shock and anger. I talk about what it felt like to face my mom’s birthday after losing her, the fog of grief b…
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55| When a Friend Dies Too Soon: Grief No One Prepares You For
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When a Friend Dies Too Soon: Grief No One Prepares You ForSummary of the Episode: Some friendships are quiet yet powerful—shaping our lives in ways we can’t always explain. But what happens when that friend is suddenly gone? In this episode, we talk about the often unspoken grief of losing a friend too soon, a kind of loss that isn’t always acknowl…
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Juggling Humor, Heart, and Hard Truths: Labor Nurse Tina on Birth Work and Resilience
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EPISODE 9: Real Talk with Mama Nurse Tina — Birth, Humor, and Honest Education In this episode, I sat down with Mama Nurse Tina—a labor and delivery nurse, educator, and mama of four—to talk about what it’s really like behind the scenes in birth work. Tina brings her wisdom, heart, and humor to the table, and we laughed plenty while also getting re…
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When today's guests, Andy and Kristen, lost their almost 2-year-old daughter due to complications after a seizure 2 years ago, their lives completely changed. There was life before Juniper died, and there was life after Juniper died. Before Juniper died, they had two young girls in daycare. Days after Juniper died, their older daughter, Macie, star…
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Healing, Resilience, and Radiant Skin with Alitura’s Andy Hnilo
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In powerful Episode 162 of the Fit Mother Project Podcast, Dr. Anthony Balduzzi sits down with Andy Hnilo, founder and CEO of Alitura, to explore the deep connection between skincare, nutrition, and overall health. Andy’s journey began as a college athlete struggling with cystic acne. This led him into a lifelong passion for natural remedies and cl…
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The Deaths We Don’t Bury | Kyle Creek (aka The Captain)
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EPISODE 10: THE DEATHS WE DON'T BURY | KYLE CREEK (aka The Captain) Dying Laughing with Jessimae Peluso Not all grief comes with a casket. In this episode, Jessimae sits down with writer and provocateur Kyle Creek. better known as The Captain to talk about the invisible deaths we carry: identity shifts, old selves, broken dreams, and relationships …
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Send us a text Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1) Episode 8: How Do You Tell the Kids? There’s no blueprint for this. No playbook. Just a heart that’s breaking—and a child looking to you for answers. In this episode, Jamal and Dave revisit the most painful part of early grief: telling their kids (and family) that their wives were …
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“Finding the Gold in Grief” with Sarah Beth Gerbers
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Finding anything good in grief might seem impossible for you today, and if so, you’re not alone. Grief often feels like it has taken on a life of its own, and even wants to become your new identity. How can there possibly be anything resembling gold in our grief journey? On this episode you’ll hear a conversation I recently had with Sarah Beth Gerb…
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070 How to Get Into Position for Life Changing Transitions
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Do you feel like you're getting ready for big life changes? Like God is trying to prepare you to move into a new phase, a new chapter, or even a new life? In today's episode, we're gonna talk about getting into position for not only what God has ahead, but what God is doing RIGHT NOW. Are you prepared? Or are there too many things running in the ba…
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54| Don’t Just Pray—Be Present: A Christian Woman’s Guide to Supporting Grief After Suicide
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Don’t Just Pray—Be Present: A Christian Woman’s Guide to Supporting Grief After Suicide When someone you love is grieving a suicide loss, it’s easy to feel frozen—unsure what to say, how to help, or whether your presence will make a difference. But the truth is, your faithful presence can be one of the most powerful ways to reflect Christ’s love. I…
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How Do You vs Your Adult Child - Decide Whether to Attend Social Events on High Risk Days?
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Hi Listeners. I'd love to hear from you. Send an email to Janet@jesteinkamp. It is not possible to respond to your Fan Mail posts directly. Join me as I walk you through the challenges and some solutions when you need to respond to invitations scheduled on or related to high-risk days. So often, these events include your adult child. So what then?!…
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BONUS EPISODE 9: DENIAL (from GRIEF SURVIVAL GUIDE MINISERIES) Dying Laughing with Jessimae In this bonus throwback episode from Jessimae’s Sharp Tongue's Grief Survival Guide miniseries, we dig into the first stage of grief: Denial. Recorded shortly after losing her mom, Jessimae reflects on what it feels like when reality just won’t sink in...the…
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Faith Was Never Meant to Keep You Silent with Detra Denise
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EPISODE 8: Leaving Abuse, Rebuilding Life — with Detra In this episode, I sat down with my friend Detra to talk about her journey out of an abusive marriage after decades as a pastor’s wife in a conservative church culture. We got real about the pressures faith communities can put on women to stay silent, small, and “obedient,” even when it’s break…
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I have often said that different people grieve differently. Today's guest, Lori, adds a new twist to that statement. She lost two of her four sons almost 30 years apart from each other, and she is grieving so much differently now than she did the first time around, showing that the same person can grieve similar losses differently as well. The stor…
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