Prominent entertainment attorneys Barry Neil Shrum & Dennis Disney explore their world of closing deals from Nashville's Famed Music Row, in the heart of Music City. We are the dealmakers, from composing to closing.
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”MUSIC DEEP DIVES” is the First ever AI moderated Podcast educating listeners on Everything Music Business that connects the dots in Music Technology and Culture by discussing topics on Music Contracts, Digital Innovations, Marketing, Promotion,A&R etc.
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Making a living on music is a dream for many musicians. Leaving a stable job and sharing your art with the world is intimidating, but Jamvana gives you the resources to earn a living with your music. We will discuss topics on music distribution, marketing, publishing, royalties, copyrights, and more to share unprecedented information on the inner workings of the music industry so you can make the most educated decisions about your career. Hosted by Monika "Monique" Mason, Lennon Cihak, and R ...
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Iconic Dealmakers Part 8: Mark Roesler: The godfather of the Rights of Publicity (REBROADCAST)
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1:26:04Send us a text For the holidays, Music Row Dealmakers is rebroadcasting one of our most popular episodes on the Godfather of NIL, Mark Roesler, in which Dealmakers Barry Neil Shrum and Dennis Disney discuss how Roesler negotiated his way into representing the estate of James Dean & Marilyn. They share their experience with deals involving this less…
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NEWS UPDATE: Gene Simmons testifies about artist royalties
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37:03Send us a text Judiciary Subcommittees consider New Legislation to Amend Copyright Act called the American Music Fairness Act. Yesterday, December 9, 2025, none other than Kiss’ Gene Simmons testified in support of this legislation at a hearing entitled "Balancing the Interests of Local Radio, Songwriters, and Performers in the Digital Age," conduc…
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Music Row Deal Making, Part 3: Critical provisions of the Exclusive Songwriting Agreement
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1:23:25Send us a text Join us for the 12th episode of Music Row Dealmakers, where Barry and Dennis continue their exploration of the “Holy Grail” of the music industry, the exclusive songwriting agreement, examining some of the more controversial provisions of the traditional recording agreement and discussing how the paradigm shifts in the industry have …
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Dealmaking on Music Row Part 2: The Holy Grail of the Music Industry (Exclusive Recording Agreement)
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1:06:13Send us a text In Episode 11, Mr. Shrum and Mr. Disney discuss how cases like McGraw v. Curb and Williams v. Polygram shape the language of the recording agreement. Support the showBy Barry Neil Shrum
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Music Row Dealmaking, Part 1: Anatomy of a Personal Management Agreement
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1:23:58Send us a text The dealmakers discuss the importance of the contractual relationship between an artist and their personal manager. Some of these relationships, such as Col. Tom Parker and Elvis Presley, can last longer than most marriages and often involve more complexities. Barry and Dennis explore some of the most critical and impactful provision…
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Iconic Dealmakers Part 8: Mark Roesler: The godfather of the Rights of Publicity
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1:26:06Send us a text The Music Row Dealmakers Barry Neil Shrum and Dennis Disney discuss how the godfather of “NIL” - the modern acronym for rights of publicity - negotiated his way into representing the estate of James Dean & Marilyn. They share their experience with deals involving this lesser-known personal and property right. Support the show…
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Iconic Dealmakers Part 7: The Escapades of Frank Sinatra, from Jupiter to Mars.
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1:34:17Send us a text In this episode, the Dealmakers Barry Neil Shrum and Dennis Glenn Disney explore The Escapades of Iconic Dealmaker Frank Sinatra, a/k/a “The Chairman of the Board” of Reprise Records. Sinatra garnered the title of "Chairman" when he established Reprise Records, which was later acquired by Warner Bros. Support the show…
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Iconic Dealmakers, Part 6: David Sarnoff, a/k/a "The General" of RCA and the Holy Trinity
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1:30:30Send us a text In the early 20th century, Sarnoff led RCA to the pinnacle of the radio industry, and later laid the technological foundations for the recording and television industries, ultimately forming entertainment icons such as RCA Victor, RKO and NBC. His legal battles against Philo Farnsworth, the inventor the image-dissecting cathode ray t…
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Iconic Dealmakers Part 5: The Tin Pan Alley Publishers
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1:18:24Send us a text The Story of New York's Tin Pan Alley and its role in the evolution of music industry. The Tin Pan Alley area of New York housed a collection of music publishers and songwriters located on West 28th Street in New York City, between Fifth and Sixth Avenues, It became the birthplace of the modern music industry, where the concept of th…
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Iconic Dealmakers Part 4: Cash & Carry Pyle and the Bunyon Derby
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51:14Send us a text Dealmakers Barry and Dennis explore CC. Pyles’ famous International Intercontinental Race, a/k/a “The Bunion Derby, and his creation of nationwide “on-the-spot” dealmaking, a precursor to the types of deals made in today's modern and complicated entertainment touring environment. Support the show…
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Iconic Dealmakers Part 3: Cash & Carry Pyle Continued
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1:21:17Send us a text Charlie "Cash & Carry" Pyle trains his dealmaking skills on the world of professional tennis, entering a deal with 5x French Wimbledon champion Suzanne Lenglen, establishing the precursor to the ATP and WTA Tennis Tours of the 21st Century. Support the showBy Barry Neil Shrum
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Iconic Dealmakers Part 2: Charlie “Cash & Carry” Pyle
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1:10:24Send us a text In his book Cash and Carry: The Spectacular Rise and Hard Fall of C.C. Pyle, America’s First Sports Agent, biographer Jim Reisler described Pyle as a combination of “the talents of P.T. Barnum, Don King, Col. Tom Parker and Oral Roberts.” In this episode of Music Row Dealmakers, from composing to closing, Shrum & Disney discuss Pyle'…
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Send us a text Our first iconic dealmaker is Frank Dileo, who was Michael Jackson’s manager through the Thriller and Bay World years and executed some of the most iconic deals in the music business. Support the showBy Barry Neil Shrum
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Send us a text This pilot episode answers the question "who are the dealmakers?" In it, your co-hosts, Barry Neil Shrum and Dennis Glenn Disney - of Shrum Disney & Associates in Music City - explain the types of deals they’ve done over their 80 collective years in the business, in particular in the deals in the entertainment and music spaces. They …
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Building a Memorable Artist Brand in Africa and the Diaspora
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10:10This episode emphasizes several key concepts crucial for effective African Artist Branding. The most prominent of these is the identification of five critical elements that artists should focus on to build a memorable brand in the African music scene and diaspora.
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Musicians and the Necessity of Social Media Management
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14:54Chief Distro's Podcast Episode argues that social media managers are essential for musicians in today's digital age. they outline key reasons for this necessity, including their expertise in digital strategy, maintaining a consistent brand voice, and effective time management for artists. Furthermore, managers enhance audience engagement, create co…
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Paid Media and the Harsh Realities of Independent Artists.
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21:23In this Episode we focus on independent musicians and paid media presented as a crucial strategy to overcome the challenge of obscurity in a saturated digital landscape. The Episode argues that investing in paid promotion, such as social media ads or sponsored placements, is not "selling out" but a necessary step to gain visibility and compete with…
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Owning Your Masters: Music Rights and Royalties Guide.
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10:34This Episode from the Music Deep Dives Podcast explains the crucial importance of musicians owning their master recordings. Master recordings are defined as the original, definitive versions of songs, granting the owner control over distribution, licensing, and profits. The discussions differentiates between master rights (ownership of the recordin…
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Boosting your music's reach on Digital Streaming Platforms.
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13:28This particular episode discusses on strategies for musicians to increase their Spotify and other digital streaming platform streams. Profile optimization, including a strong bio and social media links, is crucial. Playlist inclusion, both self-curated and through collaborations and submissions, is emphasized. Data analysis via Spotify for Artists …
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Entertainment Lawyers: Navigating the Music Industry's Legal Maze
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24:32The Episode by Chief Distro Editorial and Tech Tycoone's Curation outlines the multifaceted role of entertainment lawyers within the music industry. These legal professionals safeguard the rights and interests of various stakeholders, including artists and labels. Their responsibilities encompass copyright protection, contract negotiation, and roya…
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Afrobeats Music Promotion: Top Instagram Pages for Artists.
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15:02These Episode discusses on Instagram pages that serve as key promotional tools for Nigerian and Afrobeats artists. These platforms offer various avenues for visibility, ranging from credible reviews and cultural commentary to viral dance videos and music updates. Each page caters to a specific audience, enabling artists to connect with both local a…
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This Episode on Music Deep Dives offers strategies for musicians to earn money in 2025. -Digital streaming, while not a primary income source, provides crucial exposure. Live performances offer direct revenue and fan engagement. The guide suggests using music as a marketing tool to build a fanbase, promoting merchandise sales, and exploring sync li…
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67th Grammy Awards: All Winners and Nominees
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10:55Discussing Beyoncé Big win on album of the year, Kendrick Lamar took home the trophies for record and song of the year, and Chappell Roan was named best new artist during Sunday's ceremony and Tems on Best African music performance.
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Music Release Strategies: Discussing Singles, EPs, Albums, Mixtapes
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9:49This Episode is very special as it clarifies the distinctions between musical release formats—singles, EPs, albums, and mixtapes—detailing their ideal applications for artists. It emphasizes strategic release planning to maximize impact, covering topics like building anticipation and audience engagement. The text also highlights the importance of u…
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Weighing your expectations when dating or being married to a musician.
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21:03In this Episode we discuss indepth as we explore the complexities of dating a musician or public figure. It examines the unique challenges and rewards of such relationships, including understanding a musician's creative mindset, managing busy schedules, navigating the emotional intensity of the profession, and handling the pressures of fame. The pi…
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This Episode offers advice for musicians on cultivating a loyal fanbase in the current music industry. Key strategies emphasized include building authenticity and trust by sharing personal experiences, engaging in two-way communication with fans through various platforms, leveraging email,SMS marketing etc. for personalized outreach, and collaborat…
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Discussing Record Labels and Record Deals.
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22:14Finally, the Deep dive Podcast discusses offering comprehensive guides on securing a record deal in the modern music industry exploring alternative paths to success outside of traditional record deals, advising musicians to carefully consider their options and seek legal counsel.By Chief Distro™
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(Part 2) Artist Brands and Africa's Biggest Music Exports
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17:31The Second Discuss on branding strategies of prominent Nigerian and African artists. They highlight the crucial role of branding in establishing unique identities, connecting with audiences, and achieving global success within the competitive music industry.By Chief Distro™
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How to gain global attention with your music
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13:21Discussing on Gaining global attention with your music and brand is one thing that every artist should study patterns and routes followed through by Major African music exports.By Chief Distro™
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(Part 1) Artist Brands and Africa's Biggest Music Exports.
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22:32Discuss on branding strategies of prominent Nigerian and African artists. They highlight the crucial role of branding in establishing unique identities, connecting with audiences, and achieving global success within the competitive music industry.By Chief Distro™
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Empowering Your Music Distribution Business
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18:40This Episode discusses Empowering music distribution platforms as a business. It outlines the steps to start and manage a music distribution company, emphasising the platform’s features for independent operation: global reach, independent release management, and complete financial control. Finally, it addresses scaling the business through service …
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Proven Strategies in Music Marketing in the Digital Age
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8:20Discussing Proven Strategies in Music Marketing in the Digital Age in the ”MUSIC DEEP DIVES” Podcast episode 3.These sources, excerpts from ”Music Marketing 101” by Unchained Music and ”New Note,” provide valuable insights into the evolving landscape of music marketing for independent artists in the digital era.…
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The Music Business 101: Everything you need to know
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13:45Discussing Everything Music Business and Educating the average musician while connecting the dots in Music, Technology and Culture across Contracts, Digital Innovations, Marketing, Promotion,A&R etc.Episode 2Chief Distro’s Music Deep Dive Podcast and Discussing the music business and everything an artist or label need to know about the business of …
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Music Marketing and the perfect Elevator Pitch
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25:21Discussing Everything Music Business and Educating the average musician of it’s Entirety while connecting the dots in Music, Technology and Culture across Contracts, Digital Innovations, Marketing, Promotion,A&R etc. Episode 1Introduction of the first Episode to Chief Distro’s Music Deep Dive Podcast and Discussing every artist’s perfect Elevator P…
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Copyrights and Contracts for AI and Metaverse: Billboard Top Music Attorney Christianne Kinney
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1:03:31Christianne Kinney is a music attorney based in Los Angeles, CA. She represents artists, celebrities, intellectual property owners, and tech companies in the entertainment space. She is a Billboard Top Music Attorney and one of the Top Women Attorneys in Los Angeles by the Los Angeles Business Journal. In this conversation, Christianne, Monique, an…
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How AI Is About to Turn Book Publishing Upside-down and Why We Should Be Optimistic about It – With Thad McIlroy
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29:17**Who You Will Hear** Guest: Thad McIlroy (Principal of The Future of Publishing) Co-host: Luna Tang (Cloud Service Delivery Manager at Klopotek) Co-host: Dwayne Parris (Senior Consultant at Klopotek) In this episode, guest Thad McIlroy joins us from San Francisco and shares his research and insights on how AI is striking the revolution to book pub…
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How to Get an Advance Without Giving Up Ownership with Sound Royalties' President and CEO
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47:15Sound Royalties is a financial services company that works with creatives to fund their businesses and endeavors. For musicians, this means Sound Royalties can analyze your various revenue streams and determine how much money you "qualify" for as an advance. Sound Royalties keeps the process simple and highly transparent. Monique and Lennon speak w…
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Music Publishing Deal vs. Admin Deal: What's The Difference?
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39:11Davey Jay is an Orlando, Florida-based entertainment attorney. In this episode, which is part of our contract series, Davey, Monique, and Lennon discuss the inner workings of an admin publishing deal. Davey discusses the differences between and admin publishing deal versus a traditional publishing deal. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/GPqQjvLzg3…
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The Old and the New Book Manufacturing: on the 90th Anniversary of BMI – with Matt Baehr
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34:40**Who You Will Hear** Guest: Matt Baehr (Executive Director of Book Manufacturers’ Institute) Co-host: Luna Tang (Cloud Service Delivery Manager at Klopotek) Co-host: Dwayne Parris (Senior Consultant at Klopotek) Since 1933, the Book Manufacturers’ Institute (BMI) has been the nationally recognized trade association representing the book manufactur…
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What Makes Award-winning Audiobooks and Podcasts? – with Michele Cobb
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26:54**Who You will Hear** Guest: Michele Cobb (Executive Director of Audio Publishers Association and The Podcast Academy) Co-host: Luna Tang (Cloud Service Delivery Manager at Klopotek) Co-host: Dwayne Parris (Senior Consultant at Klopotek) Like paper books, audiobooks and podcasts have respective awards to celebrate their excellence. In this episode,…
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Blockchain, Royalties and Music Rights With Revelator CEO Bruno Guez
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49:50Bruno Guez is the founder, CEO and futurist at Revelator, the leading tech company powering the music industry. He founded Revelator to provide the technology infrastructure to move & manage the digital distribution business. He is the former Director on the Board of Merlin Network, the leading music rights agency. Guez brings over 30 years of expe…
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RIAA-Certified PLATINUM Audio Engineer Chris Jay LOVES When Artists Bring This to Their Sessions
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40:14By Chris Jay
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The Home for International Literature: Words Without Borders on its 20th Anniversary – with Karen M. Phillips
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32:56**Who You will Hear** Guest: Karen M. Phillips (Executive Director and Publisher of Words Without Borders) Co-host: Luna Tang (Cloud Service Delivery Manager at Klopotek) Co-host: Dwayne Parris (Senior Consultant at Klopotek) Getting curious about prose composed by a writer from a distant land in an endangered language? With Words Without Borders, …
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Music Publishing Agreements Simplified With Orlando Music Attorney Davey Jay
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34:49Welcome to season two of The Vana Room podcast! Our first guest is Davey Jay, an intellectual property attorney and partner at Meehle & Jay in Orlando, Florida. Davey, Monique, and Lennon talk about publishing agreements in this episode. Davey highlights the red flags in contracts (you don't need to be an attorney to spot them), various clauses tha…
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Translation: The Pains and Gains of Communication – with Esther Allen
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37:24**Who You will Hear** Guest: Esther Allen (Writer, translator. Professor at City University of New York) Co-host: Luna Tang (Cloud Service Delivery Manager at Klopotek) Co-host: Dwayne Parris (Senior Consultant at Klopotek) Translation has long been an indispensable part of the world of publishing and literature. In this episode, we are joined by E…
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On Travel, Writing, and Publishing: The Journey of a Globetrotter – with Holger Ehling
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31:07**Who You will Hear** Guest: Holger Ehling (Director of Holger Ehling Media) Co-host: Luna Tang (Cloud Service Delivery Manager at Klopotek) Co-host: Dwayne Parris (Senior Consultant at Klopotek) The guest for this episode is Holger Ehling, a journalist, author, and active organizer of specialist conferences and cultural events. Holger shares with …
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International Literary Properties: More Options beyond Royalties – with Scott Hoffman
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31:26**Who You will Hear** Guest: Scott Hoffman (CEO of International Literary Properties) Co-host: Luna Tang (Cloud Service Delivery Manager at Klopotek) Co-host: Dwayne Parris (Senior Consultant at Klopotek) Purchasing rights of music works as a means of investment – as Michael Jackson did to the majority of the Beatles’ catalog, is not a novel concep…
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The Power of Having a Book: A Fresh Interpretation on Branding, Publishing, and Writing – with April O’Leary
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26:41**Who You will Hear** Guest: April O’Leary (Founder of O’Leary Publishing) Co-host: Luna Tang (Cloud Service Delivery Manager at Klopotek) Co-host: Dwayne Parris (Senior Consultant at Klopotek) One of the most common scenarios in traditional publishing is publishers do branding and marketing for authors and their upcoming works. But what if authors…
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Why Are So Many Musicians Selling Their Publishing Catalogs and Copyrights?
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39:38Big name artists and musicians like Stevie Nicks and Bruce Springsteen are selling their music publishing catalogs to companies like Hipgnosis and Primary Wave, among others. Why are musicians selling their catalogs and rights? There are a variety of reasons why a musician may sell their catalog, and Lennon, Davey, and Monique go over them in this …
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Mental Health in Music: Why Music Professionals Need to Prioritize It
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31:05Mental health in the music industry has quite often been pushed to the side. Musicians and various music professionals fail to recognize its importance. However, the stigma around mental health is beginning to dwindle which is huge because music professionals are in one of the most grueling industries out there. Since mental health is so important,…
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