Worthy: Celebrating the Value of Women is a Christian show that celebrates the value of women in the church, home, and society. Hosted by Elyse Fitzpatrick, M.A., and Colleen Ramser, M.A, LPCC-S, the discussions you’ll hear on Worthy will promote respectful conversation on the value, gifting, and roles of women. Along with their interview guests, Elyse and Colleen believe that God is glorious, the Bible is true, women are valuable, and respectful conversations about women’s value is essentia ...
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They say the Devil’s in the details, but when conspiracies captivate our imaginations, we often overlook the real devils walking among us. From the creators of the hit podcast The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill comes a new show, Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, which takes you back to the Satanic Panic that gripped America in the 1980s and 90s. This limited series explores how hysteria gripped parents and teens through cautionary tales like Go Ask Alice, influenced notorious criminal cases like the ...
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Episode 228: Interview with Martin Cachero
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As we continue our series on divorce in the church, Martin Cachero from Risen Church joins us to discuss how to pastor congregants going through divorce. He received his B.A. from Cal State San Marcos and his Masters in Theological Studies from Bethel Seminary. He is currently co-vocational serving as co-Pastor at Risen Church and as the Director o…
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Episode 227: Interview with Vaneetha Risner
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Vaneetha is passionate about helping people find hope in their suffering. All her books: the Bible Study, Desperate For Hope, her memoir, Walking Through Fire, and her devotional, The Scars That Have Shaped Me, encourage people to turn to Christ in their pain. Her story includes childhood bullying, losing an infant son, developing post-polio syndr…
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Episode:226 Beyond “God Hates Divorce”: Scripture, Safety, and Healing - a conversation with Chris Moles and Leslie Vernick
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Chris Moles is a pastor and biblical counselor dedicated to helping churches and families confront domestic violence and cultivate healthy, God-honoring relationships. Through his ministry—PeaceWorks and PeaceWorks University—he delivers training on abuse prevention, intervention, and transformation, including resources like the Men of Peace progra…
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Episode 225: "I'm divorced, now what?" with Kathey Batey
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Kathey Batey is a court-appointed mediator, divorce coach, and has held divorce support groups for the past 20 years. She has led hundreds of men and women through the process and the trauma of divorce. She also works with people rebuilding their life after divorce. She is an author of 7 books on divorce. She is also a corporate trainer on conflict…
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BONUS: : Chris Lane and Matt Martens on the WM3 & Criminal Justice System
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Mike Cosper and Rebekah Sebastian sit down with Chris Lane, District Attorney of Floyd County, Indiana, and Matt Martens, a Washington, D.C. defense attorney and author of Reforming Criminal Justice: A Christian Proposal. Together, they unpack the tensions between prosecution and defense, the challenges created by systemic limitations, and the uniq…
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Episode 224: Divorce & the Church: Three Stories, One Hope
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Divorce is often whispered about in the church, but rarely talked about honestly and openly. In this first episode of our series on divorce, we sit down with three women from different stages of life—each with her own story of walking through divorce while navigating faith and community. Together, they share the heartbreak, the hope, and the ways t…
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Kelly M. Kapic (PhD, King’s College, University of London) is a professor of theological studies at Covenant College in Lookout Mountain, Georgia, where he has taught for twenty years. He is an award-winning author or editor of more than fifteen books, including You’re Only Human and Embodied Hope, which each won a Christianity Today Book Award. Ka…
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Rachel Wojo is an inspirational author, public speaker, and podcaster. Through her biblical approach and personal life experiences, Rachel empowers women to discover strength and hope in everyday situations. Despite enduring the loss of her mother, adult special needs daughter, and father, Rachel remains resilient. She has authored the uplifting bo…
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BONUS: Adam Kinzinger on January 6 & Conspiracy Thinking
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In this bonus episode of The Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, Mike Cosper sits down with former Congressman Adam Kinzinger for an intimate and wide-ranging conversation about January 6th, conspiracy thinking in the church and in congress, and the price he paid for speaking truth to power. Kinzinger shares what it was like to be inside the Capitol as th…
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Episode 221: Elyse Fitzpatrick speaking on Matthew 20:1-16
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Listen in as Elyse speaks about the parable of the vineyard workers in Matthew 20:1-16.By fitzpatrick
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Episode 220: Interview with Bri Stensrud
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Bri Stensrud is an author, human dignity advocate, and the Director of Women of Welcome. Her passion is to equip the Church to engage more consistently and tangibly in holistic human dignity issues. Throughout her previous work in the pro-life movement, she continually heard questions from those concerned about immigrants and refugees. Understandin…
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BONUS: What Does It Mean to Believe Survivors? In Conversation with Mary DeMuth and Colleen Ramser
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In this bonus episode of Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, we explore one of the most difficult and essential topics raised in season 1: abuse. Joined by guests Colleen Ramser and Mary DeMuth, we discuss the complexities of trauma, memory, and belief, especially when it comes to hearing and honoring the stories of survivors. From systemic failures in ch…
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Episode 219: Colleen Ramser at Broken to Beloved
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"Returning to Community After Spiritual Abuse" from the Broken to Beloved Summit of 2025.By Ramser
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Episode 218: Elyse on contentment and aging.
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Elyse speaks at a breakout session on contentment and aging.By Fitzpatrick, Ramser
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Nijay Gupta (DPhil, University of Durham) has written several academic books including A Beginner’s Guide to New Testament Studies, Paul and the Language of Faith, 15 New Testament Words of Life, and Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church. He has co-edited The State of New Testament Studies, Dictionary of Paul and…
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Amy Peeler is a professor of New Testament at Wheaton College, a priest at St. Marks Episcopal Church, an author, a wife, and a mom. She shares her love for the Bible with her students, equipping them with the tools for exegesis. Her writings focus on the Epistle to the Hebrews and Mary, the mother of Jesus. She serves as assistant pastor at her ch…
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Episode 215: Interview with Shelia Gregoire
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Sheila Wray Gregoire is an author, podcaster, and researcher into evangelicalism and sex. The founder of BareMarriage.com, together with her team she has surveyed over 32,000 people for her books The Great Sex Rescue, She Deserves Better and her latest book, The Marriage You Want. Her goal is to change the evangelical conversation about sex to be h…
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BONUS: Livestream Q&A with Mike Cosper, Matthew D. Taylor, and Robert Downen
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Season One may be wrapped—but the story isn’t over. In this bonus episode of The Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, we bring you a dynamic conversation between two returning guests—Matthew D. Taylorand Robert Downen—who unpack the lingering impact of the Satanic Panic and the modern evangelical movement, including the events of January 6, 2021. You’ll al…
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Episode 214: Interview with Jordan K. Monson
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Jordan is the Professor of Missions and Old Testament and the Director of the Center for Faith Integration and Vocation at Huntington University. Jordan is also an investigative writer at Christianity Today, regularly contributing some of their longest and most successful cover stories and print features. He and his wife Aubrey and their three sons…
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Episode 213: Interview with Andrew Bauman
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Founder & Director of the Christian Counseling Center: For Sexual Health & Trauma (CCC), Dr. Andrew J. Bauman, is a therapist with a Doctorate from Northeastern University. His dissertation was on studying the impact of sexism and abuse on women in the Protestant Church. Andrew is the author of seven books, and his newest book with Baker, is called…
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Episode 212: Interview with Brittany Allen
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Brittany Allen is wife to James and mama to two boys and three babies in heaven. She never meant to become a writer, but somehow, she’s been writing for over a decade. She’s also an author, aspiring poet, and sometimes speaker. Her book Lost Gifts: Miscarriage, Grief, and the God of All Comfort will be released July 23, 2025, with Lexham Press.…
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Stay tuned to the end for news from Mike Cosper and Rebekah Sebastian on upcoming Bonus episodes! In the finale of Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, we try to do the impossible: tie the threads together. From criminal cases to political crusades, we retrace the lines between fear, faith, and power that shaped the Satanic Panic—and continue influencing o…
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Sandra is a journalist and the author, coauthor, or editor of more than twenty books. She serves as Professor of Media Arts and Worship at Dallas Theological Seminary. She joins us today to talk about her books: Vindicating the Vixens Nobodies Mother: Artemis of the Ephesians in Antiquity and the New Testament The Shepherdess by Daniel Ridgeway Kni…
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Episode 210: Interview with Eryn Eddy Adkins
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Eryn Eddy Adkins joins us. She is the founder of So Worth Loving and a co-host on the God Hears Her podcast. She is passionate for women to know the voice of God.By Fitzpatricks
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As we approach the end of the series, we learn that the Satanic Panic didn’t end with a bang. It was more of a slow fade-out. The Religious Right had secured major political and cultural victories. Evangelicals no longer needed Satan to galvanize their movement—their influence was cemented. Fear of the Devil simply became less useful. Today’s episo…
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Aimee Byrd joins us to talk about her new book Saving Face. She shares her story from the past few years and how God has shown her more of Himself through all of her suffering.By Fitzpatrick
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Mary DeMuth joins us to talk about her latest book, The Most Overlooked Women of the Bible: What Their Stories Teach Us about Being Seen and Heard. Become a Patreon Supporter
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Remember Mike Warnke, the world’s #1 Christian comedian from Episode 3? We’ll revisit his story with a little fact-checking, but first, we introduce you to another infamous figure of the Satanic Panic: Lauren Stratford. Her memoir, Satan’s Underground, recounted her harrowing experience with satanic ritual abuse in vivid, gruesome detail—capturing …
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Quina Aragon is an author, editor, and spoken word artist residing in Orlando, FL, with her husband and daughter. They are members of New Creation Fellowship. She is the author of the children's book trilogy—Love Made, Love Gave, and Love Can. She is also the author of Love Has a Story, which invites you to explore God’s love as it has existed and …
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