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TRP 269: Blind Spots of Rainmakers with Gavin Sharpe
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29:12In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Gavin Sharpe, former lawyer, global legal search firm CEO, and now performance and leadership coach, to discuss the blind spots of rainmakers. Gavin explains that blind spots are unconscious behaviors others see but we often miss—like interrupting, failing to delegate, or hiding vulne…
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TRP 268: [Legal] Why Compensation Matters with Camille Stell
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26:54In this legal-focused edition of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Camille Stell, co-author of Respect: Insights to Attorney Compensation Plans. Together, they explore why compensation is more than just numbers—it’s about respect, transparency, and culture. Camille explains how lawyers often interpret pay as a measure of personal value…
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TRP 267: The Aversion to Selling with Sue Heilbronner
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25:33In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Sue Heilbronner, executive coach, speaker, and author of Never Ask for the Sale: Supercharge Your Business with the Power of Passionate Ambivalence. Sue explains why many professional services providers resist selling themselves and how to shift that mindset by embracing authenticity …
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TRP 266: Leveraging Conferences for Rainmakers with Patrick Morin
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28:07In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love sits down with Patrick Morin, CEO of Transact Capital, to discuss how rainmakers can maximize their time at conferences. Patrick shares proven strategies that have generated millions in business, from doing research and segmenting attendees before arrival, to positioning yourself in the right pl…
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TRP 265: Process Improvement to Boost Rainmaking Skills with Catherine MacDonagh
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27:57In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Catherine MacDonagh, a legal industry consultant and author of Lean Six Sigma for Law. Catherine explains how process improvement—defined as analyzing and refining repeatable, describable steps to achieve better outcomes—can significantly enhance client service, profitability, and rai…
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TRP 264: Rainmaking Through Engaging Webinars with Jeff Brandeis
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25:10In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Jeff Brandeis about how professionals can use webinars as a powerful tool for rainmaking. Jeff explains that too many webinars fall flat because they are one-sided PowerPoint presentations that disengage audiences. Instead, he emphasizes creating interactive experiences—adding music,…
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TRP 263: Introverted Rainmakers with Walt Crosby
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26:16In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews sales performance expert and coach Walt Crosby about how introverts can excel in business development. Walt explains why introverts often have an advantage: their natural tendency toward active listening allows them to truly understand client needs, peel back the layers to uncover the…
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TRP 262: How to Avoid Pitfalls of Client Development with Troy Korsgaden
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25:43In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Troy Korsgaden, insurance industry consultant and business development expert, about how professionals can avoid common pitfalls in client development. Troy emphasizes that the biggest mistake professionals make is failing to be intentional. He shares how building habits—like st…
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TRP 261: [Legal] Business Development Is Career Development with Lana Manganiello
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23:35In this Legal Tuesday episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Lana Manganiello, law firm growth leader, business development coach, and lateral integration strategist, about why business development is career development. Lana explains that the skills and activities required to grow a book of business—building visibility, cul…
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TRP 260: How to Lead with Trust with Tony Gray
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29:06In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Tony Gray, author of The Business Development Body of Knowledge and founder of the Global Business Development Association, about how professionals can lead with trust in business development. Tony shares a neuroscience-based model of trust built on three pillars: purpose, empat…
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TRP 259: [Legal] Think like a lawyer: Act like an Entrepreneur with Steve Seckler
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25:30In this Legal Tuesday episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Steve Seckler, attorney coach and author of Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur. Steve shares how lawyers can overcome their aversion to selling by reframing business development as an authentic, relationship-based activity. Drawing from his own journey a…
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TRP 258: Researching the Competition with Andy Buyting
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25:52In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Andy Buyting, author of Double Sales, Zero Salespeople, about how professionals in service industries can gain a competitive edge by strategically researching the competition. Andy breaks down a detailed, data-driven approach using platforms like SEMrush to analyze traffic sources, k…
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TRP 257: Laser Focus for Strong Business Development with Neil Barrow
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25:20In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Neil Barrow, a business development consultant for professional services firms, about how partners can generate more revenue through laser-focused relationship-building. Neil challenges the common notion that business development requires chasing every shiny new tool or tactic. …
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TRP 256: High Performance with Good Health Habits with Dr. Megan Lyons
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26:11In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Dr. Megan Lyons—Harvard grad, former consultant, and board-certified clinical nutritionist—about how high-performing professionals can optimize their health without sacrificing productivity. Dr. Lyons shares that the goal isn’t perfection, but performance with minimal health com…
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TRP 255: [Legal] Building a Thriving Culture in a Law Firm with Nicole Kosoff
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22:35In this Legal Tuesday episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Nicole Kosoff, culture leader at a prominent Los Angeles law firm, about how intentional, values-based culture can be a firm’s greatest tool for retention, productivity, and engagement. Nicole defines culture as the unique personality of a firm shaped by its values…
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TRP 254: Strategic Alliance Partnerships for Rainmakers with Scott Love
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12:29In this special solo episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love shares a timely message on building strategic alliance partnerships—perfectly aligned with the values celebrated during the Fourth of July. Scott distinguishes these partnerships from simple referral relationships by defining them as intentional, mutually beneficial collaborati…
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TRP 253: Maximizing Profit Per Client with Raul Hernandez Ochoa
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24:04In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Raul Hernandez Ochoa, a consultant who helps founders and service-based business owners scale profitably while maintaining a healthy work-life balance. Raul shares a powerful framework for maximizing profit per client by rethinking how services are sold, presented, and delivered. He e…
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TRP 252: [Legal] Avoiding Landmines in Lateral Partner Moves with Hilary Gerzhoy
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38:57In this inaugural “Legal Tuesday” edition of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love introduces a new series focused specifically on legal professionals, offering expert insight for lawyers navigating complex transitions. Scott speaks with Hilary Gerzhoy, a seasoned ethics lawyer and thought leader on professional responsibility, who shares valuable gui…
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TRP 251: The Power of Follow Up for Rainmakers with Jason Levin
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27:42In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Jason Levin, business development coach and author of Relationships to Infinity: The Art and Science of Keeping in Touch. The conversation explores the critical role of follow-up in building a sustainable legal practice. Jason outlines how many law firm partners approach client …
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TRP 250: Reinventing Oneself as a Rainmaker with Heidi Brown
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23:30In this milestone 250th episode, Scott Love welcomes back Professor Heidi Brown for a candid conversation on the theme of reinvention. Heidi shares her personal journey of navigating multiple career shifts—from practicing attorney to academic and author—and how those transitions required introspection, courage, and authenticity. Drawing from her ex…
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TRP 249: Delegating for Rainmakers with Sarah Tetlow
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28:25In Episode 249 of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes back productivity strategist and international speaker Sarah Tetlow to discuss the power of effective delegation for rainmakers. Sarah introduces her TORQUE model—Trust, Organized, Repetition, Quality, Understanding, and Eliminate control—as a strategic framework for lawyers and professi…
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TRP 248: Rainmaking on LinkedIn with Justin Nassiri
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27:37In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Justin Nassiri, founder of Executive Presence, about how professionals can use LinkedIn as a high-leverage platform for building relationships and generating new business. Drawing from his experience helping executives create authentic, effective content, Justin explains that Li…
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TRP 247: The Activator Advantage: What Today’s Rainmakers do Differently with Matt Dixon
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30:38In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Matt Dixon—bestselling author of The Challenger Sale and The Jolt Effect—about his latest research and book, The Activator Advantage: What Today’s Rainmakers Do Differently. Based on data from the Rainmaker Genome Project, Matt introduces five rainmaker profiles, highlighting th…
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TRP 246: Lessons Learned From Rainmakers with Steve Fretzin
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25:52In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with returning guest Steve Fretzin—legal business development coach, author, and host of Be That Lawyer—about the core lessons shared in his new book, Be That Lawyer. Steve explains why the book begins with mindfulness and time mastery, stressing that business development success sta…
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TRP 245: The Vision of a Rainmaker with Barbara Koenen-Geerdink
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21:33In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Barbara Koenen-Geerdink, former CMO of the largest law firm in the Middle East and co-founder of Boost, about the mindset and vision necessary to become a successful rainmaker. Barbara emphasizes that building a book of business is a long-term journey, best started early in one’…
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TRP 244: Tips For Making a Pitch with Scott Love
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13:56In this solo episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love shares a tactical framework for creating a powerful client pitch by focusing on what truly sets you apart. Drawing from his own experiences in legal recruiting and professional speaking, Scott introduces his “1-3-5” model: one distinct differentiator, three unique attributes, and five …
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TRP 243: Image-Building for Rainmakers with Lee Heyward
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23:17In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Lee Heyward, brand strategist and founder of The Prosperous Image, about how law firm leaders can align their external image with their internal values to attract the right clients and create stronger teams. Lee outlines her “Image Mastery System,” which includes five core eleme…
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TRP 242: The Business Development Positioning with Bob Wiesner
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26:20In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Bob Wiesner—author of Winning is Better and partner at The Artemis Partnership—about how professionals can use strategic business development positioning to win more consistently. Known as “The Pitch Doctor,” Bob breaks down his five-part framework for effective positioning: def…
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TRP 241: The Real A.I. with Dave Sanderson
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27:10In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Dave Sanderson—speaker, author, and survivor of the “Miracle on the Hudson”—about how professionals can create powerful business relationships through what he calls the “real AI”: authentic interactions. Drawing from his experience in sales and crisis leadership, Dave introduces…
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TRP 240: Visibility Through Guesting on Podcasts with Jessica Rhodes
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26:10In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Jessica Rhodes, founder of Interview Connections, about how professionals can leverage podcast guest appearances to boost visibility, build credibility, and attract more clients. Jessica explains why guesting on podcasts is one of the most scalable, evergreen ways for profession…
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TRP 239: Law Firm Partner Compensation with Chuck Curtis
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23:24In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Chuck Curtis, legal industry consultant and former director of lateral partner hiring at Pillsbury, about navigating the complexities of law firm partner compensation. With decades of experience at firms like Latham & Watkins and PricewaterhouseCoopers, Chuck shares practical in…
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TRP 238: Creating Boundaries for a Thriving Practice with Anna Rappaport
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28:08In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Anna Rappaport, business development strategist and legal industry expert, about how lawyers and professionals can create a sustainable rainmaking strategy. Anna emphasizes that business development isn’t about quick wins—it’s about building long-term habits that generate consis…
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TRP 237: Developing Rainmakers with Hy Pomerance
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25:18In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Hy Pomerance, Chief Talent Officer at Vinson & Elkins, about developing rainmakers within law firms and professional organizations. Hy, a psychologist by training, shares insights on how firms can foster a rainmaking culture from the earliest stages of a lawyer’s career—starting…
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TRP 236: Pitch Perfect: How to Win the Beauty Contest with Terry Isner
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24:29In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Terry Isner, founder of Jaffe PR, about how professionals can stand out in high-stakes pitch meetings and beauty contests. Terry shares insights on why traditional sales pitches fail and explains that buyers already know a firm’s expertise before the meeting. Instead of focusing…
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TRP 235: Navigating your Career with Clarity, Courage, and Confidence with Amy Mallow
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22:55In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Amy Malo, professional certified coach, about navigating career transitions with clarity, courage, and confidence. Amy, who has extensive experience in both internal and third-party legal recruiting, shares insights on how professionals can take control of their careers rather t…
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TRP 234: Burnout Prevention for Rainmakers with Charlène Gisèle
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24:24This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 233: How to Connect at Conferences with Janet Falk
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30:24This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 232: The Short List with David Ackert
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28:34This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 231: Building a Book from the Ground Up with Mark C. Fava
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22:37This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 230: Be a Culture Builder with Michael Frino and Katie Desiderio
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26:24This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 229: Getting Results from Training with Bob Silvy
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22:16This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 228: Content is King - A Thought Leader’s Playbook with Stephanie Grober
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23:14This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 227: Seven Strategy Questions with Scott Love
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10:51Scott Love is the founder of The Attorney Search Group, a legal recruiting firm. His practice focuses on partner transitions and law firm mergers, with specialized expertise in recruiting for global law firms in the areas of corporate, finance, private equity, and related practices. This business experience brings credibility and legitimacy to his …
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TRP 226: Consistent Habits for High Performing Rainmakers with Kyle Smith
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22:49This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 225: Curating Your Career with Dena Lefkowitz
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25:30In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Dena Lefkowitz, executive coach and author of Winning in Your Own Court, about how professionals can develop confidence and overcome self-doubt in business development. Dena explains that many high-achieving professionals struggle with imposter syndrome and hesitation when it co…
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TRP 224: Lessons Learned for Winning Business with Mike Mellor
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22:25In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Mike Mellor, business consultant and sales strategist, about how professionals can build authentic connections to drive long-term business success. Mike explains that building genuine relationships, rather than focusing on transactional sales, is the key to sustainable client de…
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TRP 223: Influence Elevated with Stacey Hanke
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26:25In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Stacey Hanke, author of Influence Redefined, about how professionals can develop lasting influence and credibility in their client interactions. Stacey explains that influence isn’t about a one-time impression—it’s about consistency, trust, and intentional communication. She emp…
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TRP 222: High-Level Relationships with Joff Sharpe
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22:22In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Joff Sharpe, entrepreneur, investor, and author, about how professionals can develop a resilient mindset and strategic thinking to thrive in business development. Joff, who has experience in military leadership, corporate boardrooms, and entrepreneurial ventures, explains that s…
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TRP 221: How to Establish Credibility with a Book with Melanie Herschorn
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21:36In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Melody Herschorn, book coach and author of Make a Big Impact with Your Book, about how professionals can establish authority, credibility, and trust by writing a book. Melody explains that a well-crafted book serves as a powerful tool for personal branding and business developme…
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TRP 220: The Six Pillars to Becoming a Happy Rainmaker with Jen Gillman
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25:49In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Jen Gilman, legal recruiter and advocate for lawyer well-being, about the six pillars to becoming a happy rainmaker. Jen shares insights from her extensive experience working with attorneys and law firms, emphasizing that success in rainmaking doesn’t always equate to happiness.…
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