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Network Automation Nerds is for network engineers and infrastructure professionals eager to learn more about automation. Join host Eric Chou as he explores how to take advantage of modern network programmability to automate tasks, build robust systems, and get more done in less time. You’ll hear from a lineup of seasoned engineers, avid learners, industry leaders, and tool creators as they share tips, best practices, and hard-won advice.
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Jump-start your use of the Cisco Learning Network's dynamic features and vibrant community offerings. Here you will find technical information and professional networking opportunities, which will help advance your certification goals. By joining the Cisco Learning Network you will be a part of the community, prepare for success, interact with professionals, mentor, share, and achieve.
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This is a (probably) limited series where Tony Bourke, a networking instructor (Arista, Cisco, etc.) talks in a vendor-neutral way about the process of network automation, the basic concepts, and where everything falls into place.
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Honest Conversations about working & succeeding in the tech industry.
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Where its all about Helping You Grow Your Network Marketing Business by Learning from the Top Income Earners in The Industry.
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In this episode of Cisco Champion Radio, we dive into the transformative role of AI in networking and how it can accelerate career growth. Our experts discuss the essential AI skills for network engineers, the practical applications of AI in daily tasks, and the importance of verifying AI-generated insights.We also explore the Cisco U learning path…
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Join us to explore the exciting evolution of Cisco AI PODs. We're expanding beyond inferencing to offer designs for training and hybrid workloads, incorporating key integrations that we'll discuss. At the heart of this is a modular, fabric-centric architecture, designed to scale seamlessly from small deployments to massive clusters while ensuring a…
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In this episode of Cisco Champion Radio, we explore how Cisco XDR (Extended Detection and Response) is transforming cybersecurity through automation and seamless integration with leading security tools. Our experts break down how Cisco XDR reduces alert fatigue, automates incident handling, and streamlines workflows to enhance security operations.W…
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In this episode of Cisco Champion Radio, we dive into Cisco's groundbreaking efforts to simplify network architecture and streamline the future of networking. The discussion focuses on the evolution of network design, from the collapse of transponders into routers in routed optical networking to the benefits of adopting coherent optics and segment …
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In this episode of Cisco Champion Radio, we delve into the dynamic collaboration between Cisco and Splunk. Together, we explore how these industry leaders are enhancing visibility, streamlining operations, and strengthening security through powerful integrations and flexible licensing options.Discover how Splunk's innovative platform empowers users…
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Join us as we celebrate the ten-year anniversary of the Cisco Champion program. In this special episode, long-time members who have been part of the program reflect on its evolution and success. We delve into the program's growth, highlighting its global diversity, the integration of new technologies, and its expanded focus beyond blogging to inclu…
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Emerging forms of wireless connectivity are growing in popularity as a new way to reach people in highly remote, rural, and difficult-to-reach locations. They are particularly important in getting sites connected more quickly. 5G and satellite internet offer crucial connectivity to businesses to deliver their offerings to more people in more places…
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NAN095: Certification Deep Dive – The New Cisco Automation Track
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52:29Cisco recently announced a major evolution to its certification roadmap: starting February 2026, the popular DevNet certifications will transition to a brand-new Automation track. Joining us today is Francois Caen, Product Manager at Cisco, also an expert in network automation and a recognized voice in the Cisco Learning and Certification Community…
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NAN094: Automate and Iterate With the NetBox Labs Community
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44:56On today’s show, we’re joined NetBox Labs co-founders Mark Coleman and Kris Beevers. They recount how they founded NetBox Labs and discuss its growth and how it’s being used. We also delve into the NetBox Labs community and its importance for users. And of course, there’s the ever-present AI discussion. Mark and Kris also talk... Read more »…
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S12|E6 Cisco AI Unleashed: The Latest & Greatest Innovations
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41:00Join us to explore the exciting evolution of Cisco AI PODs. We're expanding beyond inferencing to offer designs for training and hybrid workloads, incorporating key integrations that we'll discuss. At the heart of this is a modular, fabric-centric architecture, designed to scale seamlessly from small deployments to massive clusters while ensuring a…
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NAN093: Network Automation – There Must Be a Better Way!
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51:10“There must be a better way!” is guest Bart Dorlandt’s motto, which he applies to network automation, among other things. In today’s episode, Bart shares what he’s learned about network automation, explains why he focuses on process over tools, and reflects on the importance of mentorship. Bart and Eric also discuss why even if listeners... Read mo…
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In this episode, I talk of my love for YAML as a tool for network automation.
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Here I talk about declarative vs imperative approaches to network automation.
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The Cisco Certified Field Technician Certification
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21:47Listen in as we explore everything you need to know about the Cisco Certified Field Technician Certification – who this certification is for, the training that’s available, and how you can get started earning this certification. With the CCT or Cisco Certified Field Technician Certification, prove you have the skills to diagnose, restore, repair, a…
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NAN092: From Stealth to Scale – Decoding Network Data Management with Damian Garros
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43:29Damien Garros, CEO and co-founder of OpsMill is with us once again for today’s podcast. Since we last spoke with Damien, OpsMill has emerged from stealth mode and is making progress as one of the leaders in network source of truth in the field. Today, we’ll talk through the progress Infrahub has made and get... Read more »…
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In this episode I talk about my thoughts on using OpenConfig versus managing the device in a more native way.
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NAN091: The Future of Autonomous Networking With Jeff Doyle
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46:52Today’s guest is Jeff Doyle, an expert in the networking industry with over 30 years of experience as a consultant, instructor, architect, author, and speaker. Eric chats with Jeff about his background and how he got into networking (spoiler: it was not a computer science degree!). The conversation explores Jeff’s current work and delves into... Re…
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NAN090: Examining Network Automation’s Present and Future With Chris Grundemann
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45:16Today we explore the current state of network automation with Chris Grundemann, a co-founder of Network Automation Forum. Chris gives the history of the Network Automation Forum and AutoCon conference, which aims to blend technology and community. He shares ideas for advancing network automation, and invites other network engineers to participate i…
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S12|E5 Strengthening Cybersecurity with Cisco XDR Automation
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42:23In this episode of Cisco Champion Radio, we explore how Cisco XDR (Extended Detection and Response) is transforming cybersecurity through automation and seamless integration with leading security tools. Our experts break down how Cisco XDR reduces alert fatigue, automates incident handling, and streamlines workflows to enhance security operations. …
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NAN089: A Career Journey of Exponential Learning
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59:00“If you don’t feel nervous in front of a challenge, you are not exponentially learning” is how today’s guest Christian Adell describes his own approach to career growth. Christian chats with us first about how he got started in IT, his various experiences in both networking and DevOps and then network automation. He leads a... Read more »…
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NAN088: See Something, Improve Something – An Iterative Approach to Automation Success
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47:33On today’s Network Automation Nerds, industry veteran Michael Bushong talks about lessons learned from failure. As the network industry grapples with automation and network engineers confront yet another cycle of upskilling and grinding out new certs, he warns against executives and practice leads aiming for the biggest, shiniest project. His advic…
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S12|E4 Revolutionizing Network Design through Cisco Agile Services Networking
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47:14In this episode of Cisco Champion Radio, we dive into Cisco's groundbreaking efforts to simplify network architecture and streamline the future of networking. The discussion focuses on the evolution of network design, from the collapse of transponders into routers in routed optical networking to the benefits of adopting coherent optics and segment …
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In this episode I talk about the pitfall of throwing too many new things at once to someone who's just learning network automation. Keeping it simple and using a layered approach is what I've found to be the best way to introduce network automation to new people.
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NAN087: Modular Network Management with Slurp’it and Netpicker
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48:28In this episode of the Network Automation Nerds podcast, we talk network management with Wim Gerrits and Pieter van Os, co-founders of Slurp’it and Netpicker. These tools aim to simplify network inventory and discovery, and ensure compliance and security. We talk about what drove them to build these tools, what problems they solve, and how... Read …
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S12|E3 Unlocking AI for Network Engineers: Learning Paths & Career Growth
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43:03In this episode of Cisco Champion Radio, we dive into the transformative role of AI in networking and how it can accelerate career growth. Our experts discuss the essential AI skills for network engineers, the practical applications of AI in daily tasks, and the importance of verifying AI-generated insights. We also explore the Cisco U learning pat…
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NAN086: A Reality Check On AI for Network Operations
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53:24On today’s episode, we get a reality check on all the hype surrounding AI with guest Phil Gervasi. Phil provides background on Large Language Models (LLMs) and their applications, as well as the current state of AI technology. We also delve into practical use cases for AI in network operations, from AI as an assistant... Read more »…
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Turning Obstacles Into Opportunities with Michael Bowden
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34:18After getting laid off, Michael Bowden could have looked for a different job doing the same thing. Instead, he chose a career in networking, and never looked back. Listen in as Michael tells Cisco Learning Network Community Manager Matt Saunders about how he launched his career in the IT industry, became a Cisco Networking Academy instructor at the…
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NAN085: Embrace Change to Thrive in the Tech Industry
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59:54Embracing change is sometimes easier said than done. Today we talk with Monika Machado, who has held significant roles at companies like Microsoft and Oracle. She shares her story of learning and personal growth. Monika highlights the value of mentor-mentee relationships, continuous learning, understanding the difference between leadership and mana…
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In the software development world, they have a concept called "test driven development", whereby code is tested (unit tests, integration tests) before committing to the main branch and before deployment. We can take that concept and use it in the networking world, and to some extent we are, but there's more to go. The tools haven't quite caught up …
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Are you ready to go from zero to hero in GitNops? On today’s podcast, we talk with Tom McGonagle, who shares and explains git, CI/CD and DevOps and how that all fits into network engineering. The conversation also covers the evolution of containerization and Kubernetes, highlighting their roles in modern network automation. Tom also encourages... R…
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NAN083: Cox Gets Network Automation Right, and Proves It at DEF CON (Sponsored)
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1:01:22Today’s Network Automation Nerds episode discusses Cox Communications’ journey to getting network automation right. We also talk about how they used network automation to support operating the network at the DEF CON hacker convention. Our guests are David Ezell, Joshua Watkins and Eric Hansen from Cox Communications. We dive into initial steps and …
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What place does AI or Machine Learning have in network automation today, or even network operations in general? Writing Python scripts, playbooks, etc. Not much more. At least for now.
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NAN082: Mastering Python One Bite at a Time
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40:18How do you master Python? One bite at a time. On today’s show we talk with Bob Belderbos, co-founder of PyBites, a community and learning platform for Python. Bob shares his philosophy for learning Python in small bites with practical exercises, hands-on learning, and daily coding for improvement. We discuss the importance of small wins,... Read mo…
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S12|E2 From Data to Decisions: Exploring Splunk's Role in Digital Transformation
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39:40In this episode of Cisco Champion Radio, we delve into the dynamic collaboration between Cisco and Splunk. Together, we explore how these industry leaders are enhancing visibility, streamlining operations, and strengthening security through powerful integrations and flexible licensing options. Discover how Splunk's innovative platform empowers user…
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S12|E1 Celebrating a Decade of Cisco Champions: Evolution, Success, and Community
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38:18Join us as we celebrate the ten-year anniversary of the Cisco Champion program. In this special episode, long-time members who have been part of the program reflect on its evolution and success. We delve into the program's growth, highlighting its global diversity, the integration of new technologies, and its expanded focus beyond blogging to inclu…
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In this episode, I talk about what CI/CD is for networking automation as well as the general idea for what is in the developer world. And more importantly, I talk about how most organizations probably don't need full CI/CD, they can get a lot of benefits from network automation by adopting three practices (that are part of CI/CD, but alone aren't C…
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NAN081: We’re Going To Talk Python To You
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1:05:52On today’s episode, we’re going to talk Python. Host Eric Chou is joined by Michael Kennedy, the founder of Talk Python Training and host of the Talk Python To Me podcast. The discussion covers the evolution of Michael’s podcast and training business, the impact of platforms like TikTok on learning, and the importance of community... Read more »…
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Jason Belk on Balancing Your Career and Mental Health Journey
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39:11Pursuing a career in tech can be challenging, especially when you’re not prioritizing your mental health. Senior Technical Advocate Jason Belk shares his insights with Cisco Learning Network Community Manager Tanner Swift on building a successful career in network automation while learning to prioritize mental health. Drawing from his own journey, …
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NAN080: Elevating Your Network Automation Skills and the DevNet Expert Track
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39:12Ongoing education and training is a constant in a networking career, especially if you want to advance. And certifications are a common path forward. On today’s episode, guest Andreas Baekdahl shares his journey from traditional networking to automation architect and certification instructor. Along the way, he’s had his share of challenges and fail…
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Whats the deal with Purple Team? Find out how this Cybersecurity ideology helps improve both offensive and defensive effectiveness in this episode by hearing Cisco Technical Advocate Kyle Winters talk with Cisco Learning Network Community Manager Matt Saunders and Lead Tech Advocate Kareem Iskander about “What the Deal is” with Purple Team ideology…
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There's marketing terms, and then there's words that accurately describe a new way of doing things. Cloud computing was one of these terms, and now "Network as Code", "Network Automation", or the older "Software Defined Networking", while they can be used a marketing fluff, they do represent a different way of doing things.…
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NAN079: From Network Monitoring to Observability: Make the Leap for Better NetOps
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1:05:59Traditional network monitoring was built around SNMP and logs. And while there’s still a role for these sources, network observability aims to incorporate more data to help you build a holistic picture of the network and its behavior and performance. These sources can include flows, streaming telemetry, APIs, NETCONF, the CLI, deep packet inspectio…
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S11|E24 Enhancing Digital Experiences in Remote Areas
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40:28Emerging forms of wireless connectivity are growing in popularity as a new way to reach people in highly remote, rural, and difficult-to-reach locations. They are particularly important in getting sites connected more quickly. 5G and satellite internet offer crucial connectivity to businesses to deliver their offerings to more people in more places…
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Transform your network with a secure foundation that unlocks the power of automation, simplicity, and network insights to meet the demands of the future workplace. In this podcast, Cisco Champions and Cisco experts will dive into the transformative world of Cisco Catalyst 9600 Series modular innovations.As the backbone of modern campus networks, th…
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As a network engineer, you’re uniquely positioned with a solid foundation in networking and a head start toward the essential cybersecurity skills organizations expect. Now’s the time to leverage what you know and get the training and certification to secure your future and the networks you manage. Listen as Ryan Rose, Tech Training from Learning &…
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In this episode, our Cisco Champions dive into the rapidly evolving world of artificial intelligence (AI). From transforming industries to enhancing everyday experiences, AI is reshaping how we live and work. Join us as we discuss the current trends, breakthroughs, and potential challenges that come with integrating AI into various sectors, includi…
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NAN078: The Evolution of Ostinato: From Open Source to a Sustainable Business
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44:58Ostinato is a network traffic generator aimed at network engineers who need test traffic, whether in a lab or production, to do things such as test circuit bandwidth, determine if SD-WAN or load balancing rules are working as intended, investigate packet drops, and more. Originally released as an open-source project, Ostinato is now offered as... R…
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S11|E23 Revolutionizing Enterprise Networks: Cisco Catalyst 9600 for Next-Gen Campus Connectivity
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40:48Transform your network with a secure foundation that unlocks the power of automation, simplicity, and network insights to meet the demands of the future workplace. In this podcast, Cisco Champions and Cisco experts will dive into the transformative world of Cisco Catalyst 9600 Series modular innovations. As the backbone of modern campus networks, t…
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NAN077: Network Observability: Tools, Automation, and Insights
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47:42Network optimization starts with observing, but how are networks observed and what tools are used? Joining the podcast today are the authors behind the book “Modern Network Observability.” Eric Chou welcomes David Flores, Christian Adell, and Josh VanDeraa to help uncover practical strategies and real-world case studies for network observability. E…
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S11|E22 Don't Just Build Networks. Protect Them
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42:38As a network engineer, you’re uniquely positioned with a solid foundation in networking and a head start toward the essential cybersecurity skills organizations expect. Now’s the time to leverage what you know and get the training and certification to secure your future and the networks you manage. Listen as Ryan Rose, Tech Training from Learning &…
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