Join two moms who talk about what it's like when your child dies from a drug overdose, and what life is like after a drug overdose death. Warning: Conversations may contain triggering material, dark and irreverent humor, and possible cursing. Want to contact us with a thought or topic for discussion? Send us an email at: [email protected].
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Child Overdose Podcasts
An outreach of The Empty Chair Endeavor designed to support and equip grieving parents and siblings in rediscovering hope, purpose, and joy after unspeakable tragedy. Additionally, our mission involves educating the public about the life altering impact the death of a child has upon survivors, both parents and siblings, and equipping them to better support and minister to them. Join us as guests share their stories of heartbreaking loss and how God has shown up on their journeys to restore h ...
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You can't go through life without experiencing loss and trauma the question is how do we deal and live with the grief and pain? Join Nathalie Himmelrich, grief expert and author, talking to people who have experienced grief and trauma first-hand. If you want to be inspired by others who traveled through their grief and trauma, found that healing is possible, and came out the other end knowing they can survive and thrive in life after loss. For more info: www.nathaliehimmelrich.com
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These are the letters that I wrote after my son died. My son died from a drug overdose. He was seventeen. This is what the first year of grief sounds like.
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After losing her 21-year-old daughter, Emily, to fentanyl poisoning, veteran journalist Angela Kennecke made it her life’s mission to break the silence surrounding substance use disorder and the overdose crisis. Grieving Out Loud is a heartfelt and unflinching podcast where Angela shares stories of devastating loss, hard-earned hope, and the journey toward healing. Through powerful interviews with other grieving families, experts, advocates, and people in recovery, this podcast sheds light o ...
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If you have a heart attack, you go to the hospital. Kid is sick? Call the pediatrician. So why do the rules change when it comes to addiction? When you or a loved one needs immediate help, it’s hard to know where to go or what to do. Start here. Join Dr. Nzinga Harrison, a physician board-certified in psychiatry and addiction medicine, who believes in a comprehensive, compassionate approach to treating addiction. Whether it’s heroin, pain pills, alcohol, meth, food, sex, or anything under th ...
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Author and parenting expert Jamie Glowacki expands on her book Oh Crap! Potty Training in a new podcast miniseries that takes you step by step through the often arduous but rewarding journey of teaching your kid how to take care of their business on their own.
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This is where womanhood (and entrepreneurship!) gets real, raw, and ridiculously funny. Think: calling your silly goose (but wicked smart) best friend for the kick in the pants to go for your big dreams... or dump Chad. Expect big laughs & bold takes where you’ll leave feeling fired up and confident AF to do the damn thing. Submit your question or story to the hotline at www.AngieLee.com
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Choosing Love After a Hate Crime Took Her Son and Father
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41:13From a school shooting in Minneapolis to bomb threats against Jewish hospitals in New York, hate crimes continue to make headlines across the country. FBI data shows that reported incidents rose by more than 200 in just one year, from 2022 to 2023. With every act of hate comes unimaginable grief, something today’s guest knows far too well. Mindy Co…
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Send us a text In this episode of How to Deal with Grief and Trauma, Nathalie Himmelrich explores the history, importance, and impact of Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness (PAIL). We talk about why this month of remembrance matters, what society can do to better support grieving families, and how bereaved parents can honor and integrate the memory…
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This week we’re popping in your feed to tell you about a new show from Lemonada Media, Since You Asked. Who doesn’t need advice—and who doesn’t love giving advice? Since you asked, we’re happy to answer. Each week, two friends—Gretchen Rubin, a happiness researcher, and Lori Gottlieb, a therapist—tackle the daily problems of living with all of you.…
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A Grieving Mother’s Story of Loving and Losing a Wild Child
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39:30What began as a joyful winter break reunion quickly turned into tragedy. In January 2016, a group of college friends gathered at a lake house in southern Wisconsin to celebrate the new year. But before the celebration was over, four of them had vanished—including Sally McQuillen’s 21-year-old son, Christopher. In this episode of Grieving Out Loud, …
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On this episode, Cheryl Davis, host of the Time for Mom podcast, shares her story of loss as a young mom whose heart was neither equipped nor prepared to deal with the grief of child loss. Cheryl’s is a story that represents over a million others just like hers every year in the U.S. suffering the death of a child by miscarriage. All too often, we …
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141 Suicide Trauma | World Suicide Prevention Day: Changing the Narrative on Suicide
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34:11Send us a text On World Suicide Prevention Day (10 September 2025), we explore this year’s theme: “Changing the Narrative on Suicide.” This episode covers: What suicide is and why compassionate language matters. Global statistics and who is most at risk. Common warning signs and myths about suicide. Cultural differences in how suicide is viewed. Wh…
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Thousands of Tombstones by the U.S. Capitol to Honor Lives Lost to Substance Use
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38:31Picture this: 3,800 tombstones stretched out near the U.S. Capitol. Each one represents a life lost to substances— not a number, not a statistic — but a son, a daughter, a sibling, a friend. In this episode of Grieving Out Loud, I sit down with Kimberly Douglas and Alexis Pleus, the women behind the Trail of Truth. For them, this mission is deeply …
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What This Grief Expert Wants You to Know About Healing and Hope
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42:25Grief is something most of us will face at some point in our lives—but it’s not exactly coffee shop conversation. Gary Roe is hoping to change that. He’s not only an award-winning author who’s written more than 20 books on grief, but also someone who speaks with honesty, compassion, and deep personal experience. In this episode of Grieving Out Loud…
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Child Loss and Work with Shelly Kolwinska, Margaret Roses’ Mom
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53:31In this episode you’ll hear Shelly Kolwinska share her profound journey of grief following the stillbirth of her daughter, Margaret Rose. In our conversation we discuss the importance of community support for grieving parents and the unique services offered by The Child Loss Foundation. Shelly's personal story intertwines with her professional miss…
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A Childhood Shaped by Loss, a Life Reclaimed in Sobriety
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36:40How do you keep going when your world falls apart? It is a question even adults struggle to answer, so imagine what it is like for a child. For many, the pain of losing someone they love becomes unbearable. In the search for something, anything, to numb the hurt, they turn to alcohol or other substances. When grief is left unspoken and untreated, t…
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140 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Disrupted Attachment Grief
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7:39Send us a text 🎧 DISRUPTED ATTACHMENT GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, p…
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139 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Migration-related Grief
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7:14Send us a text 🎧 MIGRATION-RELATED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psyc…
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138 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Cultural or Intergenerational Grief
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6:53Send us a text 🎧 CULTURAL OR INTERGENERATIONAL GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practi…
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Murder Took One Son, Fentanyl Took the Other
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46:37New York City is home to more than twice the population of any other U.S. city, so when a story makes headlines there, it usually means it’s something big. But for Scott Caddell, the reason his son’s name appeared in the news was devastating. First, Scott lost his oldest son to a brutal and widely publicized murder. Then, years later, his younger s…
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137 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Environmental or Climate Grief
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6:35Send us a text 🎧 ENVIRONMENTAL OR CLIMATE GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitione…
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“Finding the Gold in Grief” with Sarah Beth Gerbers
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41:20Finding anything good in grief might seem impossible for you today, and if so, you’re not alone. Grief often feels like it has taken on a life of its own, and even wants to become your new identity. How can there possibly be anything resembling gold in our grief journey? On this episode you’ll hear a conversation I recently had with Sarah Beth Gerb…
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136 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Grief Due to Non-death Loss
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7:57Send us a text 🎧 GRIEF DUE TO NON-DEATH LOSS – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, …
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135 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Compounded Grief
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7:03Send us a text 🎧 COMPOUNDED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologic…
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134 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Identity-related Grief
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7:43Send us a text 🎧 IDENTITY-RELATED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psych…
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133 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Developmental Grief
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8:50Send us a text 🎧 DEVELOPMENTAL GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psycholo…
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132 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Existential Grief
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8:47Send us a text 🎧 EXISTENTIAL GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologi…
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131 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Invisible Grief
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7:23Send us a text 🎧 INVISIBLE GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologica…
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How Do We End the Fentanyl Epidemic? A Candid Conversation with a Former DEA Chief
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44:11In this episode of Grieving Out Loud, we sit down for a one-on-one conversation with a man who’s spent decades on the front lines of the United States' battle against illicit drugs and overdose deaths. Derek Maltz, who recently served as acting administrator of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), built a nearly 30-year career as a speci…
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130 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Vicarious Grief
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7:23Send us a text 🎧 VICARIOUS GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologica…
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129 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Stigmatized Grief
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8:08Send us a text 🎧 STIGMATIZED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologi…
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128 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Distorted Grief
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7:37Send us a text 🎧 DISTORTED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologica…
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127 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Normal Grief vs Pathological Grief
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8:10Send us a text 🎧 NORMAL GRIEF VS PATHOLOGICAL GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practit…
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126 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Residual Grief
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8:32Send us a text 🎧 RESIDUAL GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychological…
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125 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Exaggerated Grief
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7:54Send us a text 🎧 EXAGGERATED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologi…
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124 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Chronic Grief
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8:38Send us a text 🎧 CHRONIC GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychological …
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A Father’s Road Trip for Grief, Healing and Hope
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35:19Imagine watching a documentary about the dangers of opioids—then moments later, learning your only living child is gone. That’s the devastating reality Michael Land faced when his son unknowingly took a pill laced with a deadly dose of fentanyl. In the wake of unimaginable loss, Michael is choosing to keep his son's memory alive by living out the a…
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123 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Masked Grief
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8:48Send us a text 🎧 MASKED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychological t…
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“Sibling Lifeline” with Bobby and Gabby Bisterfeldt
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1:00:58They are known as “the forgotten mourners.” On this episode you’ll be hearing a conversation I had with Bobby and Gabby Bisterfeldt, founders of Sibling Lifeline, as we talk about how the death of a child affects surviving children. Both have experienced the tragic loss of two siblings each. As they share their stories, you’ll learn how each tried …
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122 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Ambiguous Grief
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8:26Send us a text 🎧 AMBIGUOUS GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologica…
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121 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Inhibited Grief
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9:46Send us a text 🎧 INHIBITED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologica…
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120 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Absent Grief
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8:10Send us a text 🎧 ABSENT GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychological t…
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119 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Delayed Grief
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8:06Send us a text 🎧 DELAYED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychological …
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118 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Collective Grief
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9:22Send us a text 🎧 COLLECTIVE GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologic…
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117 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Secondary Loss Grief
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8:50Send us a text 🎧 SECONDARY LOSS GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychol…
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Grieving Moms Take on Snapchat and Congress After Their Sons' Fentanyl Deaths
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38:48They call themselves “bereaved besties,” but it’s a bond born from heartbreak. Amy Neville and Bridgette Norring never imagined their lives would intersect like this, until both of their teenage sons died after taking what they believed was a prescription pill they bought on Snapchat. Instead, it was a deadly dose of fentanyl. Now, these two mother…
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116 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Cumulative Grief
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9:40Send us a text 🎧 CUMULATIVE GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologic…
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115 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Complicated or Prolonged Grief
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9:10Send us a text 🎧 COMPLICATED OR PROLONGED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitione…
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114 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Disenfranchised Grief
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8:26Send us a text 🎧 DISENFRANCHISED GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psycho…
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113 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Traumatic Grief
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9:25Send us a text 🎧 TRAUMATIC GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologica…
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112 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Sudden Loss/Grief
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9:32Send us a text 🎧 SUDDEN LOSS/GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psychologi…
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111 Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma | Anticipatory Grief
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11:05Send us a text 🎧 ANTICIPATORY GRIEF – Mini Series: Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma Welcome to this episode of the How to Deal with Grief and Trauma podcast. This is part of our special summer mini series: “Understanding the Language of Grief, Loss and Trauma.” I’m your host, Nathalie Himmelrich — somatic practitioner, psycholog…
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Can We Save Lives While Cutting Funding? A Tough Conversation at the Top
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35:00On this episode of Grieving Out Loud, we’re having an important one-on-one conversation with a key figure from President Trump’s administration—someone deeply involved in shaping how our country responds to the addiction and mental health crisis. Right now, more than 48 million Americans are living with substance use disorder. Yet, the administrati…
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A Heart Stopping Call, with Mary McNamara, Zack's Mom
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44:46A phone call on Christmas morning 2020 brought heart shattering news she never could have imagined. On this episode, Mary McNamara talks with me about how one phone call forever altered her life that day. Her beautiful 28 year old son, Zack, had died during the night alone. We talk about the questions such a sudden, unexpected tragedy leaves a pare…
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Your To-Die List: Bestselling Author on Living Fully and Resiliently
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41:55Most of us have a daily to-do list—sometimes scribbled on paper, sometimes just running through our heads. But today’s guest on Grieving Out Loud invites you to consider a different kind of list: a to-die list. Bestselling author and self-help coach Karen Salmansohn has written more than 25 books for adults and tweens, with more than two million bo…
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He Wanted Justice for His Son, So He Became the Investigator
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38:31Most of us would never imagine taking on the role of a law enforcement investigator. But for so many grieving parents, that’s exactly what they’ve had to do. After losing their children to fentanyl, they find themselves combing through phone records, tracing dealers, and trying to uncover the truth—because no one else will. For too long, overdose d…
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