So often at work we show up with only a small piece of who we are, and we miss out on the opportunity for deeper connection. Welcome to Our People Our Purpose, hosted by me, Kathy Bolhous. I wanted to find a way to connect on a deeper level with our employees on what really matters as they navigate life inside and outside of work. Through candid and thought-provoking conversations, Our People Our Purpose uncovers captivating stories of growth, transformation, and self-discovery. Together, we ...
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Wealth & Wisdom: For Farming Families Who Want More Money matters — but wisdom is what makes it last. For Australia’s most successful farming families, financial growth is only part of the picture. True, lasting success means aligning your wealth with your values, nurturing strong family relationships, and building a legacy that endures for generations. Join Ben Law, The Financial Bloke and founder of Agricoach, Australia’s leading coaching business for high-performing rural families, as he ...
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Most farming families think profit equals progress — but that’s not always true. In this episode, Ben Law breaks down the truth about where your profit really goes… and why so many families work their guts out yet still feel like they’re standing still. You’ll hear how high-performing families treat profit not as a finish line, but as fuel — fuel f…
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Veterans Day Special: EP. 50 – Audrey O’Brien and Andrew Bacon: Honoring Service and Building Community
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37:06Kathy sits down for a heartfelt Veterans Day Special with employee-owners Audrey O’Brien and Andrew Bacon, two military veterans leading CNG’s United Veterans Employee Resource Group. The pair share stories of service, resilience, and how their experiences in the military continue to shape the way they make an impact at CNG, through leadership, com…
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#112: Owning Your Story: Breaking Generational Patterns with Lael Stone with Lael Stone - Speaker, Educator and Author
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57:03What if the real reason family conflict keeps repeating isn’t about money, land, or even succession — but the unseen stories we’ve been carrying for generations? In this powerful conversation, Ben Law sits down with Lael Stone — educator, counsellor, author, and co-founder of Woodline Primary School — to unpack how unexamined imprints from our past…
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MINI: Trust The Effort. Let Go Of The Outcome.
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5:45What if the secret to lasting success in farming, family, and life isn’t about controlling every detail — but about knowing when to let go? In this mini episode, Ben Law shares the mindset he’s seen in the most successful farming families over the last 25 years: do your absolute best, then release the outcome. From the paddock to the boardroom, the…
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#111: When Success Becomes Your Prison with Jean-Marc Barbeau - Qualified Chartered Accountant and NLP Master Coach, Better Business Freedom
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49:52What if the very habits that made you successful are now the biggest things holding you back? In this episode of The Agricoach Wealth & Wisdom Podcast, Ben sits down with Jean-Marc Barbeau, turnaround strategist and founder of Better Business Freedom. Jean-Marc shares his journey from climbing the corporate ladder in London to redefining what true …
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MINI: Try Hard Not To Offend But Try Harder Not To Take Offence
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3:40What tears farming families apart usually isn’t the big blow-ups. It’s the quiet termites — the little digs, careless words, and unspoken grudges that eat away at trust. In this mini-episode, Ben Law unpacks a principle that can transform family dynamics: “Work hard not to offend — and even harder not to be offended.” You’ll hear why truth-telling …
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#110: Lock It In: Protect Your Price and Your Profit with Ripley Atkinson - StoneX Australian Livestock & Commodities Manager
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42:19What if you could take the wild swings out of cattle prices and bring real certainty into your operation? In this episode, Ben Law sits down with Ripley Atkinson, livestock risk management specialist at StoneX. Ripley grew up on a mixed farm in Tamworth, worked across NT stations, MLA, and now helps producers and feedlots across Australia use struc…
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Ever found yourself convinced the sky was falling—only to realise later it was just a hiccup? In this mini episode, Ben shares how a blocked septic system spiralled into a fifty-grand catastrophe in his head before reality pulled him back. That moment uncovers a bigger truth: the sneaky role cognitive distortions play in farming families. From blac…
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#109: From No Succession Plan to $1B in Ag Assets: 3R Beef Fireside Chat with Garry Edwards, Founder and Managing Director of AAM Investment Group
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52:15Recorded live at the annual 3R Beef Pre Bull Sale Dinner, this special episode of The AgriCoach Wealth & Wisdom Podcast captures a fireside chat with one of Australian agriculture’s most influential leaders. Ben Law sits down with Garry Edwards — Chair of Cattle Australia and Managing Director of AAM Investment Group — to unpack the journey from th…
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Why Logic Fails in Family Conversations (And What Wins Instead)
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5:35Ever walked into a family meeting armed with facts, spreadsheets, and a bulletproof case — only to walk out with nothing but more tension? You’re not alone. In this punchy mini episode, Ben Law unpacks why logic so often fails in farming family conversations — and what actually works instead. From succession and scaling decisions to big changes in …
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Kathy and Sam dive into an exciting conversation about Sam’s lifestyle outside of work and the experiences that have shaped her path. From growing up in Chicago with the guidance of her parents, to the lessons she learned through sports, and the competitive drive that continues to influence her life and career, Sam shares how these moments define w…
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#108: Super Tax Shake-Up: What It Means for Farming Families with Kylie Wilson, Partner - Sparke Helmore Lawyers
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42:37What if the government’s proposed superannuation tax changes weren’t just targeting the ultra-wealthy, but could one day hit everyday farming families? In this episode, Ben Law — The Financial Bloke — is joined again by leading agribusiness lawyer Kylie Wilson to cut through the political spin and lay out what these changes really mean for families…
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MINI: Back Yourself - Why Playing It Safe Is the Biggest Gamble
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3:58What if the biggest risk you’ll ever take isn’t failing — but hesitating? In this short, sharp mini episode, Ben Law unpacks the single piece of advice he’s heard most from the wisest minds he’s interviewed: back yourself. Drawing on years of conversations and his own journey, Ben reveals why waiting until you “feel ready” is a trap, why action bea…
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#107: How One Family Kept Their Agribusiness Alive for Five Generations with Tom Morrissey - Morrissey & Co
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38:40What keeps a fifth-generation family business alive for more than a century? In this episode, Ben Law sits down with Tom Morrissey of Morrissey & Co, the Darling Downs family behind Australia’s most trusted calf cradles and cattle equipment. From humble blacksmith beginnings in 1910 to pioneering world-first solar-powered hydraulic crushes, the Mor…
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Apurva Shah: EP. 47 - Blending Passion and Purpose
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29:55Kathy sits down with Apurva Shah to explore what it means to find balance. The pair share a thoughtful conversation about family, leadership, and the connections between work and home. From his career journey and path to leadership at CNG to his perspective as a father and a self-described introverted extrovert, Apurva reflects on how relationships…
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"We should’ve started this 10 years ago." Ben Law has heard that exact sentence more times than he can count — whispered by farming couples in their 60s and 70s, after the kids leave the room. In this punchy and powerful mini episode, Ben dives into one of the most painful regrets he sees in agriculture: waiting too long to get started. Waiting to …
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#106: Wealth, Don’t Just Hand It Down — Teach Them to Build It Themselves with Ryan Baddock - MD of RB Finance
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46:13If your kids are going to inherit the farm — or the family fortune — you’d better be sure they know how to manage it. In this no-fluff, high-value episode, Ben is joined by long-time mate and mortgage strategist Ryan Baddock to explore what it really takes to get the next generation wealth-ready — long before succession. You’ll discover: Why teachi…
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Think your farm is your retirement plan? Think again. In this confronting MINI EPISODE, Ben Law — The Financial Bloke — takes aim at one of the most dangerous beliefs in family agriculture: “The farm is my super fund.” That mindset has quietly blown up more successions than droughts or disputes ever have. You’ll discover: Why relying solely on the …
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Kathy and Meghan share a heartfelt conversation about family, resilience, and the unexpected paths that shape our lives. Meghan opens up about her early years as an au pair in Ireland, raising two teenagers, and navigating a career built on empathy and connection. As a member of CNG’s internal communications team, Meghan reflects on how her upbring…
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#105: The Real Risk Isn’t Being Wrong — It’s Being Slow with Mark Ferguson - Think Agri
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45:05What’s holding your family business back — being wrong, or being too slow to change? In this energising conversation, Ben Law sits down with Dr. Mark Ferguson — sheep genetics expert, CEO of Next Gen Agri, and host of The Head Shepherd Podcast — to explore why the greatest risk in ag today isn’t failure... it’s inertia. From the paddock to the boar…
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MINI: Mastering Fear & Frustration — Emotional Fitness for High-Performing Families
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8:18Ever found yourself snapping at the wrong person, avoiding the real issue, or feeling stuck but not sure why? In this punchy mini episode, Ben Law — The Financial Bloke — unpacks the two emotional drivers that quietly derail farming families: fear and frustration. Left unchecked, these forces sabotage relationships, cloud decisions, and stall progr…
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#104: Regenerating the land is only half the battle—Don’t forget to regenerate your family with Charlie Arnott - The Regenerative Journey
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48:46When the paddocks are thriving but the family’s falling apart, what’s really being regenerated? In this episode of The Agricoach Wealth & Wisdom Podcast, Ben Law sits down with eighth-generation farmer and regenerative ag pioneer Charlie Arnott. Charlie shares the raw, unfiltered story of what led him to overhaul his approach to farming—and, just a…
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Ryan Courtright: EP. 45 - Anchored In Family
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25:29Kathy and Ryan dive into a thoughtful conversation about leadership, personal growth, and the values that shape who we are. As an award-winning CNG employee owner and soon-to-be father, Ryan shares how his upbringing, career journey, and passion for continuous improvement influence his leadership and his life. From road trips with his dad to prepar…
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MINI: The Hidden Tax That’s Quietly Costing Your Family Millions
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6:20You’re smart about tax. You’ve got a good accountant. You’ve structured things well. But what if there’s one tax you’re still paying — and it’s not even on the spreadsheet? In this sharp and confronting MINI EPISODE, Ben Law — The Financial Bloke — exposes the silent killer most farming families never see coming: The Ignorance Tax. It’s the cost of…
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#103: Farming, Family & Boundaries: How to Draw the Line Without Drama with Katja Williams - The Ultimate Farm Wife Podcast
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46:56What happens when your home, business, and family are all wrapped into one — and you never get to clock off? In this episode, Ben sits down with Katja Williams — Dubbo-based farmer, mum of four, and host of The Ultimate Farm Wife podcast — to tackle one of the most overlooked but essential ingredients for success in family farming: boundaries. This…
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MINI: Success the Wrong Way: You’re Winning… But At What Cost?
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5:58You’re kicking goals. The numbers look great. The farm’s expanding. But here’s the question nobody’s asking: At what cost? In this punchy MINI EPISODE, Ben Law — The Financial Bloke — delivers a much-needed gut check for ambitious rural families and business owners chasing growth at full tilt. Because success built the wrong way might leave you wea…
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Eric Morningstar: EP. 44 - Create Your Own Path
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16:28Kathy and Eric Morningstar dive into a flavorful conversation about Eric’s journey from beer delivery and backyard cooking to launching a successful line of barbecue sauces, all while excelling as a film extrusion technician at Charter Next Generation. As a father of five kids, Eric brings the same dedication, creativity, and resilience to both his…
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#102: Elite Teams Win On Culture - And So Can Your Family with Chris Webb - High Performance Advisor
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50:32What do Olympic medal-winning teams, the All Blacks, and elite farming families have in common? According to Chris Webb — high-performance advisor to Australia’s top sporting teams — it’s not just talent that wins the day. It’s culture, clarity, and the courage to call out bad habits. In this high-octane episode, Chris reveals what truly separates …
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MINI: Your Life on the Big Screen: Are You the Hero… or Just Watching It All Happen?
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4:33Ever feel like you're just reacting — putting out fires, chasing deadlines, and telling yourself, “I'll deal with that later”? In this bite-sized MINI EPISODE of the Agricoach Wealth & Wisdom Podcast, Ben Law — The Financial Bloke — throws down a challenge: If your life was a movie… would you be the hero, or just a spectator? Ben pulls back the cur…
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#101: Avoiding the Hard Conversations? What It’s Costing Your Family? with Katie Godden - Communication Specialist
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41:04Avoiding the tough conversations? It could be costing you everything. In this powerful episode, Ben Law is joined by communication specialist Katie Godden to unpack the hidden danger that derails most succession plans, fractures family trust, and stalls high-performing families: the conversations that never happen. It’s not the paperwork. It’s not …
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Kathy and Kaci sit down for an uplifting conversation about family, leadership, and finding purpose close to home. In this episode, Kaci Griggs shares some insight into marrying her high school sweetheart, what it’s like raising her adventurous daughter, and how growing up on a farm shaped her strong work ethic. As Regional Talent Acquisition Manag…
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MINI EPISODES are back — and this one pulls no punches. In the second instalment of this new short, sharp series, Ben Law — The Financial Bloke — tackles one of the biggest myths holding family businesses back: that being “nice” keeps the peace and holds things together. It doesn’t. In fact, being liked might be the very thing that’s keeping your f…
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#100: The Angus Family Playbook: How to Build a Business, Raise Leaders & Think Generationally with Josie Angus - Angus Pastoral Co
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47:53What happens when a family doesn’t just talk about legacy — but builds it, lives it, and scales it? In this powerful episode, Ben Law sits down with Josie Angus of Angus Pastoral Company and Signature Beef — one of the most respected names in Australian beef. Together, they unpack the rarely-heard behind-the-scenes strategy that turned a fourth-gen…
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MINI: Imposter Syndrome — The Secret Struggle of High Performers
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8:43Introducing something new and powerful… This episode marks the launch of Agricoach Wealth & Wisdom MINIs— short, sharp, solo episodes released fortnightly between our usual deep-dive guest interviews. These bite-sized sessions are designed to give high-performing farming families a straight-talking dose of insight, strategy, and mindset — fast. Eve…
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Joseph Carrion: EP. 42 - Rooted in Family
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21:55Kathy and Joseph sit down for a heartwarming conversation about resilience, family, and finding purpose through life’s challenges. Joey opens up about his journey from Puerto Rico, his role at CNG, and how he is guided by faith, purpose, and a deep commitment to his family. In this heartfelt episode, he reflects on the legacy of his mother, the joy…
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#99: Interest Rates, Trump Tariffs & What’s REALLY Going On with Saul Eslake - Economist
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52:10What do Donald Trump’s tariffs, China’s trillion-dollar bond stash, and Australian interest rates have in common? They’re all shaping your farm’s future—and no one breaks it down quite like Saul Eslake. Back by popular demand, leading economist Saul Eslake returns to The Agricoach Wealth & Wisdom Podcast to help farming families make sense of today…
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#98: Getting Everyone on the Same Page: The Negotiator’s Guide to Family Alignment with Allan Parker OAM - Micro Behavioural Scientist & Negotiator
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45:52What if the biggest challenge holding your family back isn’t money, land, or succession—but the way you speak (and listen) to each other? In this episode, I sit down with Allan Parker OAM—renowned international negotiator, behavioural scientist, and a man who’s facilitated everything from global UN policy to grassroots farming family disputes. Alla…
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Dennis Bouthillier: EP. 41 - Keep Moving Forward
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18:30Kathy and Dennis share an inspirational conversation about overcoming adversity, working hard, and building a future you can be proud of. Dennis reflects on his journey growing up in Massachusetts with a hardworking single mom and facing personal struggles. He also opens up about his long-term goals, shares his passion for cooking, and even a bit a…
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#97: The Forgotten Virtues That Built This Nation—And Why We Need Them Back with Hon, John Anderson - Former Deputy PM of Australia
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48:43In this timely and thought-provoking episode, Ben Law sits down with John Anderson—former Deputy Prime Minister, generational farmer, and host of one of Australia’s most influential podcasts—for a conversation every values-driven farming family needs to hear. Together, they explore the slow erosion of the very virtues that built Australia: responsi…
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Jason Hood: EP. 40 - Living in the Moment
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25:58Kathy and Jason sit down for a nostalgic conversation as the pair discuss the evolution of Charter Next Generation and reminisce on the past 20 years of personal and professional growth that they have shared. Jason goes on to talk a bit about his favorite hobby, mountain biking, as well as enjoying time with his family, pets, and more. From growing…
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#96: Rising to the Top: From Rookie to a Top 20% Producer with Andrew Miller - Braidwood Station
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42:47What happens when a rookie with no formal ag training transforms a startup cattle operation into one of Australia’s top-performing beef producers? Meet Andrew Miller, manager of Braidwood Station in Western Queensland. In this episode, Andrew reveals the grit, mistakes, and mindset shifts that took him from overstocked paddocks and sleepless nights…
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#95: You’re Not Alone: Every Family Struggles with David Westbrook - Farmer
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1:03:58In this episode of the Agricoach Wealth & Wisdom Podcast, Ben sits down with David Westbrook—a man who’s lived the highs and lows of farm succession. David shares the raw, unfiltered story of stepping away from his family’s legacy after conflict and disillusionment, only to return years later with a new perspective and renewed hope. From confrontin…
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Kayla Chamberlin: EP. 39 - Raising the Bar
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21:35Kathy and Kayla enjoy a fun and inspirational conversation about overcoming obstacles and raising the bar. Kayla dives into her role at CNG, shares how her son is a driving force in her life, and so much more. Along with the joys and challenges of raising a teenager, Kayla shares her love for baking, the beach, and all things spooky. From childhood…
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#94: From Uncertainty to Unstoppable: How the Conaghan Family Mastered Communication, Collaboration & Succession with Lynise Conaghan - Barmount Feedlot
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48:49Most farming families struggle with succession. Some avoid the hard conversations, others get bogged down in conflict, and too many leave it too late. But the Conaghan family? They’ve turned the challenge into an opportunity—and they’re thriving. In this episode, Lynise Conaghan of Barmount Station joins me to share how her family successfully navi…
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Colton Davidson: EP. 38 – Riding Through Life
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16:59Kathy sits down with Colton Davidson as he shares his story of resilience, passion, and hands-on learning. From growing up in Upstate New York to finding his place in Blythewood, SC, Colton reflects on his journey of working night shifts, his hobbies like fixing motorcycles, living life with a daredevil spirit, and balancing it all with some qualit…
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#93: Canada’s Farm Whisperer Spills the Secrets to Family Farming Success with Elaine Froese - Farm Family Transition Expert
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53:28What makes a farming family truly rich? Spoiler: it’s not just the land or the livestock. Elaine Froese, celebrated as Canada’s 'Farm Whisperer,' joins Ben to share her 30+ years of wisdom as a farm family coach. Together, they tackle the big issues—from fairness in succession and breaking the cycle of conflict avoidance to fostering harmony throug…
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#92: Four Daughters, One Mission: The Secret to Achieving Financial Success & Strong Family Relationships with Karen Penfold - Four Daughters Beef
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52:11Meet Karen Penfold, a driving force behind one of Australia's most dynamic family agribusinesses. In this candid conversation, Karen shares the highs and challenges of managing succession in a multi-generational farming family. Hear how she and her husband Dan transitioned out of their family business, raised four incredibly driven daughters, and a…
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David Michelson: EP. 37 – Brewing Up Solutions
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18:56Kathy and Dave share a lighthearted conversation about Dave’s interests, his childhood and family, and what shaped him into the man he is today. From Fish Fry Fridays with the boys from work to exploring Wisconsin’s brewery scene, Dave’s story is filled with connection, inspiration, and finding purpose. With candor, he expresses how his problem-sol…
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#91: Death Taxes, Political Agendas, and the Future of Farming with Tim Rivett - Lawyer
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45:29Ben Law is back with Tim Rivett to unpack a controversial topic affecting farming families worldwide: inheritance taxes. As whispers of policy changes gain momentum, Ben and Tim dissect the UK’s sudden move to slash tax exemptions for farmers and what it might mean for Australia. Discover why death taxes are back on the table, how governments eye t…
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