Theology for the Church aims to provide accessible, theologically rich conversations that have an eye toward applied theology and a heart for the local church. Weekly episodes hosted by Caleb Lenard (DEdMin, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) cover all kinds of topics and themes in Christian doctrine, biblical theology, and Christian formation through engaging interviews with pastors, biblical scholars, and theologians from across the globe.
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The Doctrine of Last Things: History and Hermeneutics with Sam Waldron
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51:46In this week's episode, Caleb is joined by Sam Waldron (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) president of Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary and professor of systematic theology, to discuss his new book The Doctrine of Last Things: An Optimistic Amillennial View. Together, they focus on the history and hermeneutics of biblical eschato…
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Ecclesiastes’ Path to Resilient Happiness with Bobby Jamieson
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40:03In this episode, Caleb is joined by Bobby Jamieson (PhD, Cambridge) senior pastor of Trinty Baptist Church in Chapel Hill, North Carolina to discuss his most recent book Everything Is Never Enough: Ecclesiastes' Surprising Path to Resilient Happiness. Together they discuss the main idea, purpose, key themes, and interpretive challenges in the book …
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The Book of Joshua with Richard Pratt Jr.
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1:17:52In this episdoe, Caleb is joined by Richard Pratt Jr. (ThD, Harvard University) president of Third Millennium Ministries, to discuss the book of Joshua. Together they explore the structure, main idea, purpose, key themes, and gospel connections in Joshua. Resources Joshua by Richard Pratt Jr. Knowing the Bible: Joshua by Trent Hunter Joshua: Strong…
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The Christological Case for Compatibilism with Randy Johnson
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49:08In this episode, Caleb is joined by Randy Johnson (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Wisdom Head at Scholé Christian Tradition, to discuss how classical Christology entails a compatibilist view of free will. In other words, freedom and moral responsibility are compatible with determinism is a necessary consequence of the teaching abou…
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Christ Jesus, the True Israel with Brent Parker
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1:22:25In this week's episode, Caleb is joined by Brent Parker (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary), assistant editor of the Southern Baptist Journal of Theology to discuss the Israel-Christ-Church relationship in biblical theology. Resources A Biblical and Theological Perspective of National Israel by Brent Parker Christ Jesus, the True Israe…
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In this week’s episode, Caleb is joined by Joshua Greever (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Associate Dean of Seminary Programs & Associate Professor of New Testament, to discuss the new covenant in Christ from a progressive covenantalist perspective. Together, they unpack the key points of the new covenant and how it fits in the lar…
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In this week’s episode, Caleb is joined by Stephen Wellum (PhD, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) Professor of Christian Theology at Southern Seminary and Editor of The Southern Baptist Journal of Theology, to discuss God’s covenant with David from a progressive covenantalist perspective. Together, they unpack the key points of the Davidic coven…
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The Levitical Covenant with David Schrock
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38:26In this week’s episode, Caleb is joined by David Schrock (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Pastor of Preaching and Theology at Occoquan Bible Church and Adjunct Professor of Systematic Theology (Indianapolis Theological Seminary, Boyce College, and The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) to discuss the Levitical covenant from a pr…
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The Mosaic Covenant with Thomas Schreiner
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54:29In this week’s episode, Caleb is joined by Thomas Schreiner (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) Associate Dean for the School of Theology and Professor of New Testament Interpretation and Biblical Theology at Southern Seminary, to discuss God’s covenant with Moses/Israel from a progressive covenantalist perspective. Together, they unpack the key poi…
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The Abrahamic Covenant with Jason DeRouchie
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1:22:39In this week’s episode, Caleb is joined by Jason DeRouchie (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Research Professor of Old Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Seminary, to discuss God’s covenant with Abraham from a progressive covenantalist perspective. Together, they unpack the key points of the Abrahamic covenant and how it f…
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In this week’s episode, Caleb is joined by Michael Carlino (PhD Candidate), The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Operations Director for the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood and Assistant Director for the Mathena Center for Church Revitalization at Southern Seminary, to discuss God’s covenant with Noah from a progressive covenantalis…
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The Creation Covenant with Richard Lucas
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1:00:21In this week’s episode, Caleb is joined by Richard Lucas (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Pastor of Teaching and Reaching at First Baptist Jacksonville to discuss God’s covenant with creation from a progressive covenantalist perspective. Together, they compare and contrast progressive covenantalism with dispensationalism and covenan…
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Covenants in Biblical Context with Peter Gentry
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37:54In this week’s episode, Caleb is joined by Peter Gentry (PhD, University of Toronto) Distinguished Visiting Professor of Old Testament and Senior Research Fellow at the Text & Canon Institute at Phoenix Seminary, to talk about the importance of covenantal relationships in the biblical story. Together, they discuss the similarities and differences b…
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In this episode, Caleb is joined by Stephen Dempster (PhD, University of Toronto) professor emeritus of religious studies at Crandall University, to discuss a biblical theology of the kingdom of God. Together, they trace the themes of kingship and kingdom throughout Scripture exploring how the story of God’s kingship is ultimately the fulfillment o…
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A Biblical Theology of Wisdom with Mitch Chase
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40:53In this episode, Caleb is joined by Mitch Chase (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Preaching Pastor at Kosmosdale Baptist Church and Associate Professor of Biblical Studies at Southern Seminary, to discuss his new book, Walking the Way of the Wise: A Biblical Theology of Wisdom. Together, they unpack how wisdom is not merely knowledge…
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Perseverance and Assurance with Ardel Caneday
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1:00:33In this episode, Caleb is joined by Ardel Caneday (PhD, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School), retired professor of New Testament at University of Northwestern in St. Paul Minnesota, to discuss a biblical theology of perseverance and assurance. Together they discuss eight different kinds of biblical passages that help give us a holistic understandin…
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Biblical Theology in the Life of the Early Church with Stephen Presley
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44:45In this episode, Caleb is joined by Stephen Presely (PhD, University of St. Andrews), Senior Fellow for Religion and Public Life at the Center for Religion, Culture & Democracy (CRCD) and Associate Professor of Church History at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary to discuss his new book: Biblical Theology in the Life of the Early Church: Rec…
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A Reformed Approach to Spiritual Formation with Matthew Bingham
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54:55In this episode, Caleb is joined by Matthew Bingham (PhD, Queen’s University Belfast) vice president of academic affairs and associate professor of church history at Phoenix Seminary in Scottsdale, Arizona to discuss his new book: A Heart Aflame for God: A Reformed Approach to Spiritual Formation. Together they discuss spiritual formation practices…
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The Book of Deuteronomy with August Konkel
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59:27In this episode, Caleb is joined by August Konkel (PhD, Westminster Theological Seminary) Professor of Old Testament at McMaster Divinity College in Hamilton, Ontario Canada to discuss the theology of the book of Deuteronomy. Together they unpack the main idea, purpose, structure, key themes, and gospel connections. Resources: ESV Expository Commen…
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A Biblical Theology of the Temple with G.K. Beale
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44:15In this episode, Caleb is joined by Greg Beale (PhD, Cambridge) Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Reformed Theological Seminary in Dallas, to discuss a biblical theology of the temple. Together they trace this theme from Genesis to Revelation, creation to new creation, pointing out its significance for the people of God and their …
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Cancer and the Hope of the Gospel with Tim Lenard
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57:50In this episode, Caleb has a conversation with his father, Tim Lenard, about fighting for faith while wrestling with cancer. Tim was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer three years ago and this conversation peels back the curtain into what kinds of questions and struggles have come up along the way as well as how the ordinary means of grace and Chri…
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In this episode, Caleb is joined by Daniel Scheiderer (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) pastor at Grace Baptist Church in Chambersburg, Pennsylvania to discuss God’s attributes. Together, they provide an overview of how to talk about and categorize the attributes of God as well as practical applications for the Chrisitan life. Resour…
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Gregory of Nazianzus on Pastoral Theology with Keith Goad
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46:19In this episode, Caleb is joined by Keith Goad (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) preaching pastor at Jefferson Park Baptist Church in Charlottesville, Virginia to discuss Gregory of Nazianzus and his contribution to our understanding of pastoral theology and ministry. Together, they discuss questions like: What does it look like to b…
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In this episode, Caleb is joined by Iain Dugid (PhD, Cambridge) professor of Old Testament at Westminster Theological Seminary to discuss a theology of the book of Numbers. Together, they tackle the purpose, main idea, structure, key themes, and gospel connections in the book of Numbers. Resources Numbers: God's Presence in the Wilderness by Iain D…
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Divine Impassibility with Thomas Weinandy
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44:27In this episode, Caleb is joined by Thomas Weinandy (PhD, King's College London) to discuss the doctrine of divine impassibility. Together, they speak to how God does not experience emotional change in any way, nor does God suffer, and how this is good news for us. Resources Does God Suffer? by Thomas Weinandy God without Passions: A Primer by Samu…
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Romans 9-11: Four Views with Jared Compton
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58:17In this episode, Caleb is joined by Jared Compton (PhD, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Bethlehem College and Seminary to discuss the four major views or perspectives on Romans 9-11. Together, they provide a summary of Paul’s argument in Romans 1-8, an outline of Romans 9-11, and finally surv…
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When Poets Were Warriors: Biblical Masculinity with Casey Hough
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1:01:13In this episode, Caleb is joined by Casey Hough (PhD, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary) to discuss his new book, When Poets were Warriors: Retrieving a Biblical Vision of Masculinity. Together, they discuss how, instead of allowing cultural stereotypes to form our vision of masculinity, we need to return to the emotionally complex and parad…
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Return From Exile with Nicholas Piotrowski
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57:13In this episode, Caleb is joined by Nicholas Piotrowski (PhD, Wheaton College) President of Indianapolis Theological Seminary to discuss his new book, Return From Exile and the Renewal of God’s People. Together, they trace the theme of exile and return from Genesis to Revelation offering practical and pastoral implications along the way. Resources …
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The Parables of Jesus with Craig Blomberg
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51:43In this episode, Caleb is joined by Craig Blomberg (PhD, University of Aberdeen) professor emeritus of New Testament at Denver Seminary to discuss the nature and meaning of Jesus’s parables, and how to interpret and apply them to our lives today. Resources Interpreting the Parables by Craig Blomberg Poet and Peasant and Through Peasant Eyes: A Lite…
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In this episode, Caleb is joined by Peter Orr (PhD, University of Durham) New Testament lecturer at Moore Theological College in Sydney, Australia, to explore a theology of Mark’s Gospel Account via Orr's recent work, “The Beginning of the Gospel: A Theology of Mark.” Together, they discuss the main idea, purpose, structure, and key themes in the g…
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The Order of God's Decrees: Lapsarian Views with Richard Phillips
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1:09:20In this episode, Caleb is joined by Richard Phillips (DDiv, Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary) senior minister of Second Presbyterian Church in Greenville, SC to discuss lapsarian views. Together they discuss how theologians seek to understand the mind of God as revealed in Scripture with respect to the logical or conceptual relationship…
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The Hope of Glorification for a Secular Age with Jason Alligood
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46:34In this episode, Caleb is joined by Jason Alligood (PhD, Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary) assistant professor of theology at Cedarville University to discuss his latest book,Raised in Splendor: The Hope of Glorification for a Secular Age.Together, they discuss the hope of glory that transcends the fears and frustrations of a secular age and…
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Reading the Psalms with the Author of Hebrews with Daniel Stevens
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48:14In this episode, Caleb is joined by Daniel Stevens (PhD, University of Cambridge) professor of New Testament at Boyce College and Southern Seminary to discuss his latest book,Songs of the Son: Reading the Psalms with the Author of Hebrews.Together, they discuss how more than just relatable poetry, the Psalms reveal a rich theology of God, the natur…
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Divine Incomprehensibility with Ronni Kurtz
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51:22In this episode, Caleb is joined by Ronni Kurtz (PhD, Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary) professor of theology at Cedarville University to discuss his newest book, Light Unapproachable: Divine Incomprehensibility and the Task of Theology. Together they discuss how our inability to see God in his totality should not lead us to despair, but rat…
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The Nature and Marks of the Church with Michael Lawrence
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49:07In this episode, Caleb is joined by Michael Lawrence (PhD, University of Cambridge) lead pastor of Hinson Baptist Church in Portland, Oregon to discuss the nature and marks of the church. Together they discuss things like: what is the church? What is the relationship between the universal church and local churches? What is the visible/invisible chu…
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The Unvarnished Jesus: The Person of Christ with Sam Parkison
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49:38In this episode, Caleb is joined by Sam Parkison (PhD, Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary) associate professor of theology at Gulf Theological Seminary to discuss his newest book, The Unvarnished Jesus: The Beauty of Christ and His Ugly Rivals. Together they focus on topics and issues related to the person of Christ such as: the incarnation an…
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Reading the Psalms as Scripture with Matt Damico
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42:05In this episode, Caleb is joined by Matt Damico (MDiv, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) associate pastor of worship and operations at Kenwood Baptist Church in Louisville, Kentucky to discuss his new book, coauthored with Jim Hamilton, Reading the Psalms as Scripture. Together, they discuss the structure and key themes of the Psalter as w…
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In this episode, Caleb is joined by Peter Gurry (PhD, University of Cambridge) professor of New Testament at Phoenix Seminary and Text & Canon Institute Director to discuss the canonicity of Scripture. Together they discuss common questions and misconceptions surrounding the formation and history of the Bible in an accessible and apologetic manner.…
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A Biblical Theology of Resurrection Hope with Jeff Brannon
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1:01:24In this episode, Caleb is joined by Jeff Brannon (PhD, University of Edinburgh) professor of biblical studies to discuss a biblical theology of resurrection hope. Together, they trace the theme of resurrection hope and life after death from Genesis to Revelation discussing practical applications along the way. Resources The Hope of Life After Death…
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In this episode, Caleb is joined by Mike McKinley (MDiv, Westminster Theological Seminary) senior pastor of Sterling Park Baptist Church in Sterling, Virginia to discuss his book, Friendship with God: A Path to Deeper Fellowship with the Father, Son, and Spirit. Together, they define what friendship with God means and offer practical guidance for h…
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What Does it Mean to Follow Jesus? with Tim Wiebe
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50:13In this episode, Caleb is joined by Tim Wiebe (DMin, Southern Seminary) pastor of spiritual formation at Brookside Church in Omaha, Nebraska to discuss Tim's new book, What Does It Mean to Follow Jesus?: A Clear, Biblical Picture of Discipleship. Together they discuss what a framework for holistic discipleship that is biblical, practical, and acces…
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Preaching Practical Application from Every Text of Scripture with Murray Capill
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49:30In this episode, Caleb is joined by Murray Capill (DMin, Westminster Seminary) Dean of Ministry Development and Lecturer in Pastoral Ministry at Reformed Theological College (Melbourne, Australia) to discuss the topic of how to preach practical application from every text of Scripture. Resources The Heart Is the Target: Preaching Practical Applic…
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Ancient Wisdom for the Care of Souls with Shawn Wilhite and Coleman Ford
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1:06:06In this episode, Caleb is joined by Shawn Wilhite (PhD, Durham University) associate professor of New Testament at California Baptist University and Coleman Ford (PhD, Southern Seminary) assistant professor of humanities at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary to discuss their new book, Ancient Wisdom for the Care of Souls: Learning the Art of…
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Conceived by the Holy Spirit: The Virgin Birth in Scripture and Theology with Rhyne Putman
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1:02:35In this episode, Caleb is joined by Rhyne Putman (PhD, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary) Professor of Christian Ministries at Williams Baptist University to discuss his new book, Conceived by the Holy Spirit: The Virgin Birth in Scripture and Theology. Together, they discuss the birth narratives of Christ from the gospels and demonstrate no…
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In this episode, Caleb is joined by Dennis Johnson (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) professor emeritus of practical theology at Westminster Seminary California and assistant pastor of Westminster Presbyterian Church in Dayton, Tennessee to discuss his new book, Perfect Priest for Weary Pilgrims: A Theology of Hebrews. Together, they discuss the p…
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The Book of Leviticus with Christine Palmer
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1:15:02In this episode, Caleb is joined by Christine Palmer (PhD, Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion) professor of Old Testament at Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary to discuss a theology of the book of Leviticus. Together they discuss the structure, key themes and passages, main idea and purpose of Leviticus as well as its use in the New…
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A Biblical Theology of the Holy Spirit with Andreas Kostenberger
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56:32In this episode, Caleb is joined by Andreas Kostenberger (PhD, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) professor of biblical studies at Palm Beach Atlantic University and founder of Biblical Foundations to discuss a biblical theology of the Holy Spirit. Together, they summarize the biblical teaching on the Holy Spirit first walking through the major s…
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Proclaiming the Triune God: The Trinity in the Life of the Church with Joseph Lanier
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58:09In this episode, Caleb is joined by Joseph Lanier (PhD, Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary) pastor for discipleship and administration at Fairview Baptist Church in North Carolina to discuss his recent book, Proclaiming the Triune God: The Doctrine of the Trinity in the Life of the Church which he coauthored with Matthew Barrett, Sam Parkison,…
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Answering the Psalmist's Perplexity: New Covenant Newness in the Psalms with James Hely Hutchinson
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48:07In this episode, Caleb is joined by James Hely Hutchinson (PhD, Moore College) Director, Institut Biblique de Bruxelles, Belgium to discuss his new book, Answering the Psalmist's Perplexity: New-Covenant Newness in the Book of Psalms. Together, they discuss things like: What is the psalmist's perplexity? What's new about the new covenant? What is t…
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5 Principles for Interpreting the Book of Revelation with Alex Stewart
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1:17:03In this episode, Caleb is joined by Alex Stewart (PhD, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary) professor of New Testament studies at Gateway Seminary to discuss principles for interpreting the book of Revelation. Together, they discuss five simple keys that unlock this difficult book to demonstrate how Revelation is more approachable, applicable…
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