Best Bruce Rout Podcasts (2025)

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Hour 3: Justin Herbert Toughs It Out, Straight Outta Tomlin, plus Actor Tony Goldwyn In-Studio 46:45

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Rich weighs in on Justin Herbert leading the Chargers to a critical Monday Night Football win over the Philadelphia Eagles despite playing with a broken hand and getting sacked 7 times. ‘Law & Order’ star Tony Goldwyn joins Rich in-studio to discuss his new ‘Far from the Tree’ podcast with his daughter Blair, sharing scenes with Sean Penn in the ac…

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Hour 2: Overreaction Tuesday, Rivers Officially Rejoins Colts, Advice for Marcus Freeman 46:30

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Rich reacts to former Pro Bowl QB Philip Rivers, who last played in 2020, signing with the Indianapolis Colts’ practice squad. In ‘Overreaction Tuesday’ Rich weighs in on the Eagles’ playoffs outlook, if the Chargers can catch the Denver Broncos in the AFC West, if the Bills vs Patriots in Week 15 is a preview of the AFC Championship Game, Philip R…

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Hour 1: Eagles Concern Level, Philip Rivers’ Possible Return, plus ESPN’s Jeff Saturday 45:11

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Rich reacts to the Eagles’ crushing overtime loss to the Los Angeles Chargers and why Philadelphia fans shouldn’t be overly concerned about the team’s season-long struggles to be consistent week-to-week. Rich weighs in on the injury-riddled Indianapolis Colts possibly adding former Pro Bowl quarterback Philip Rivers to their practice squad after th…

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Hour 3: Steelers/Ravens, College Football Playoff scenario, Eagles-Chargers Preview, Jacksonville Jaguars 46:49

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Rich offers up his thoughts on the Steelers going into Baltimore and taking over sole possession of 1st place in the AFC North. Rich sounds off on the current College Football Playoff system and suggests the NCAA should take a cue from the NFL. The guys say that the vibes might be changing in Philly prior to the Eagles’ MNF game against the Charger…

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Hour 2: Bears-Packers Reactions, Shedeur’s Big Day, plus Rams QB Matthew Stafford 46:35

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Rich recaps the Green Bay Packers massive win over the Chicago Bears to claim first place in the NFC North. Rams QB Matthew Stafford and Rich discuss L.A.’s mindset as they sit atop the NFC with a 10-3 record, what it’s like throwing to uber-talented WRs Puka Nacua and Davante Adams, the “energy and passion” of head coach Sean McVay, his MVP-level …

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Hour 1: Chiefs in Peril, CFP & Notre Dame Bowl Snub Reactions, plus Bengals-Bills 46:34

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Rich weighs in on the Kansas City Chiefs’ crushing Week 14 loss to the Houston Texans and what it means for Patrick Mahomes & KC’s chances to make the playoffs this season. Rich commends unbeaten Indiana head coach Curt Cignetti for turning the Hoosiers into a “monster program” after winning the Big Ten title game, and the guys react to the controv…

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NFL Week 14: Chiefs & Ravens are Cooked, Colts' QB Plan, are Packers Class of NFC? 38:55

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A weekly staple on 'The Rich Eisen Show' since 2018, 'Overreaction Monday' is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today's topics: :45 - The Texans will be playing in the AFC Championship game 5:05 - Sunday night was the end of the Chiefs' dynasty 12:05 - The road to the Super bowl in the NFC goe…

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Hour 3: NFL Week 14’ Big Stakes, plus ‘Landman’ Star Andy Garcia In-Studio 46:35

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Oscar-nominated actor Andy Garcia joins Rich in-studio to discuss his huge role in the new season of ‘Landman,’ his die-hard Miami Dolphins fandom, reviving his ‘Terry Bennedict’ role in the upcoming ‘Ocean’s 14’ movie and his best memories from making the original ‘Ocean’s 11’ with George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Don Cheadle, Carl Reiner, Julia Roberts…

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Hour 2: What’s More Likely, Cowboys’ Playoff Hopes, Matt Campbell to Penn State, plus Bruce Arians 46:23

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Rich breaks down the Cowboys’ slim playoff chances after falling to 6-6-1 on the season. In ‘What’s More Likely’ Rich weighs in on the Detroit Lions, Kansas City Chiefs, Pittsburgh Steelers, Baltimore Ravens, Vikings QB JJ McCarthy, Falcons RB Bijan Robinson, and more. Super Bowl LV-winning coach Bruce Arians and Rich discuss the new ‘Raise the Fla…

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Hour 1: Cowboys-Lions TNF Reactions, plus NFL Insider Tom Pelissero 46:24

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Rich recaps the Detroit Lions’ Thursday Night Football win over the visiting Dallas Cowboys and what it means for each team’s playoff hopes. NFL Insider Tom Pelissero and Rich discuss how Lions RB Jahmyr Gibbs was the steal of the 2023 draft, the impact of the season-ending Achilles injury suffered by Detroit Lions S Brian Branch, the Cowboys’ tale…

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Hour 3: Week 14 ‘Higher Register’ Predictions, plus NFL Executive Hans Schroeder 46:35

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Rich weighs in on Penn State’s bungling of their head coach search inthe wake of firing James Franklin 6 weeks ago, and comments on the latest surrounding Lane Kiffin jilting Ole Miss for LSU including Joe Burrow’s less-than-ringing endorsement of the move. NFL Executive VP of Media Distribution Hans Schroeder and Rich discussthe league’s massive T…

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Hour 2: Rich’s Top 5, plus ESPN NBA Reporter Brian Windhorst Talks Giannis Trade Possibility 46:18

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ESPN’s Brian Windhorst and Rich discuss the chances Giannis Antetokounmpo could ask the Milwaukee Bucks for a trade, breaks down the messy breakup between Chris Paul and the Los Angeles Clippers, and weighs in on yet another stellar season by Nuggets C Nikola Jokic. Rich weighs in on RB De’Von Achane’s efforts to single-handedly revive the Miami Do…

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Hour 1: Cowboys vs Lions TNF Preview, Steelers Updates, plus Comedian Andrew Santino 45:58

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Rich previews what’s at stake for the Dallas Cowboys and Detroit Lions in their pivotal Thursday Night Football game with big-time playoff implications for both teams. Rich weighs in on the latest on the Pittsburgh Steelers heading into their key Week 14 AFC North showdown against the Baltimore Ravens, and reacts to Ben Roethlisberger saying Mike T…

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Reactions from WWE Survivor Series: War Games 2025, who was that masked man in black, the return of Liv Morgan, and more! 1:33:29

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O'Shea and T.J. react to this past weekend's WWE Survivor Series: War Games PLE and which superstars stood out the most to them. Like most fans, the guys wonder who was "The Man in Black" that interfered with the Main Event. Also, what does the return of Liv Morgan mean for "The Judgement Day"? The guys also discuss Monday's episode of Raw and prev…

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Hour 3: Giannis’ Trade Request, Clippers Cut CP3, plus Savannah Bananas LF Coach RAC 46:39

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Rich and the guys react to a Brian Windhorst report that Giannis Antetokounmpo ask the Milwaukee Bucks for a trade prior to the start of the NBA season, and to the Los Angeles Clippers parting ways with future Hall of Famer Chris Paul…at 1am in the morning. The guys also debate what Kawhi Leonard’s legacy will be once he retires from the league. Co…

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Hour 2: NFL Power Rankings, Chief-Cowboys Ratings Bonanza, plus TNF’s Andrew Whitworth 46:34

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Rich reacts to the massive viewership ratings for the Cowboys vs Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day, weighs in on the Eagles’ chances to right the ship in Week 14 against a banged-up Chargers squad, and reveals his brand-new NFL Power Rankings with three new entries and a new team at #1. Thursday Night Football analyst Andrew Whitworth and Rich preview the…

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Hour 1: Ole Miss/CFP Rankings Intrigue, plus NFL Network’s Kurt Warner 46:34

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Rich weighs in on the latest College Football Playoff rankings and how Lane Kiffin’s departure to LSU and the intrigue surrounding Rebels OC Charlie Weis Jr. might have impacted the rankings. Pro Football Hall of Famer/NFL Network analyst Kurt Warner tells Rich how the New England Patriots are getting MVP-level play out of 2nd-year QB Drake Maye, h…

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Hour 3: Lane Kiffin’s LSU Intro, plus WWE Superstar Seth Rollins In-Studio 46:50

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Rich weighs in on the “insane” terms of Lane Kiffin’s new contract with LSU that shows how desperate college programs are to land big name coaches. WWE Superstar Seth Rollins joins Rich in-studio where he gloats over the surprising success of his beloved Bears this season, what new head coach Ben Johnson has meant to Chicago, predicts how the rest …

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Hour 2: Overreaction Tuesday, Steelers’ Stakes, plus Buffalo Bills Hall of Fame QB Jim Kelly 46:36

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Pro Football Hall of Famer Jim Kelly and Rich discuss his longtime battle with cancer and the charity work he does to find a cure, the Buffalo Bills’ playoffs outlook, and shares his favorite memories from those AFC dynasty teams of the 90’s on and off the field. In ‘What’s More Likely’ Rich weighs in on the rebirth of the Patriots under Mike Vrabe…

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Hour 1: Giants-Patriots Reactions, Jaxon Dart Advice, plus ESPN’s Scott Van Pelt 46:34

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Rich offers up some advice to QB Jaxson Dart who some big (and unnecessary) hits in his return from concussion in the New York Giants MNF loss to the Patriots. ESPN ‘SportsCenter’ host Scott Van Pelt and Rich share their favorite memories of and discuss the lasting impact of their late colleague Stuart Scott, discuss which is the best team in the N…

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Hour 3: Joe Burrow’s Return, Rams & Stafford Stumble, Jauan Jennings Latest Controversy 46:50

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Rich recaps the San Francisco 49ers Week 13 win over the Browns, and Auntie Jackie from Virginia calls in to offer her spot-on assessment of Shedeur Sanders’ latest start for Cleveland, and explains why (for his own selfish reasons perhaps???) the Cincinnati Bengals’ playoff hopes are still alive with the return of Joe Burrow. Rich reacts to the Ca…

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Hour 2: Ohio State-Michigan Reactions, Broncos Survive, Justin Herbert Surgery 46:34

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Rich weighs in on the Denver Broncos’ overtime win over the Washington Commanders on Sunday Night Football, how Justin Herbert’s surgery on his non-throwing hand could impact the Los Angeles Chargers’ playoff hopes, and if we’re likely to see the Kansas City Chiefs on the outside looking in when the postseason rolls around. Michigan alum Rich react…

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Hour 1: Steelers at a Crossroads, Lane Kiffin to LSU Spectacle, Bears NFC 1-Seed Reaction 46:34

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Rich weighs in on the Steelers dropping to 6-6 on the season after falling 26-7 to the Buffalo Bills in a game that featured Pittsburgh fans chanting “fire Tomlin.” Rich comments on the “stupid” spectacle of Lane Kiffin jilting Ole Miss to take the LSU head coaching job, and reacts to the Ben Johnson’s Chicago Bears rising to the 1-seed in the NFC …

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Episode 331 Martin Atkins 1:02:58

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Martin Atkins's three decades in the music industry in nearly every aspect of record production, gives him a rare perspective on the music business past, present, and future. After early success as a drummer with Public Image Ltd. and later work with acts like Killing Joke, Ministry, and Nine Inch Nails, he launched his own projects including Pigfa…

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NFL Week 13: Tomlin's Hot Seat, Broncos, Bears, Lane Kiffin & More 40:08

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A weekly staple on 'The Rich Eisen Show' since 2018, 'Overreaction Monday' is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today's topics: 1:15 - Everyone on the Broncos' summer bandwagon was right... Denver is going to the AFC Championship Game 6:45 - The Cowboys are going to win the NFC East 12:10 - Th…

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Hour 3: Mike Vurkunov, The Athletic Basketball Reporter 46:02

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We get into a little early season NBA talk with Mike Vurkunov from The Athletic. And final thoughts from a big day in sports. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesBy ESPN, Rich Eisen Productions, Rich Eisen

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Hour 2: Where will Kiffin Go? 45:49

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Dan Scwartzman fills in for Dan today and shares his thoughts on where Lane Kiffin will end up coaching next season. Plus we look ahead to today's Bears/Eagles matchup. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesBy ESPN, Rich Eisen Productions, Rich Eisen

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Hour 1: Mike Sando, The Athletic, NFL Senior Writer 45:38

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Dan Schwartzman fills in for Rich today and recaps yesterday's NFL action with The Athletic's Mike Sando. How much did you eat on Thanksgiving and how much Christmas music is too much.. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesBy ESPN, Rich Eisen Productions, Rich Eisen

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Survivor Series predictions and exclusive "Big" Bronson Reed interview 1:13:05

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O'Shea and TJ preview this weekend's "Survivor Series" with The Vision's "Big" Bronson Reed. The Tribal Thief describes the journey that took him from Adelaide, South Australia to WWE Superstardom. Bronson reveals his welcome to wrestling moment, some of his favorite matches as a fan, just how he came up with the idea to jack Roman Reigns Jordan's,…

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Hour 3: What’s More Likely: Thanksgiving Games Edition, plus Actor Jared Harris In-Studio 46:45

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Rich reacts to Shedeur Sanders’ latest media session, and in ‘What’s More Likely’ weighs in on the Lions vs Packers, Chiefs vs Cowboys, and Bengals vs Ravens Thanksgiving Day games. Actor Jared Harris joins Rich in-studio to discuss his new ‘Reawakening’ and ‘House of Dynamite’ films that are harrowing in nature but each for its own reason, shares …

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Hour 2: Week 13 Power Rankings, Rich’s Top 5, plus NFL Insider Tom Pelissero 46:31

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Rich reveals his brand-new NFL Power Rankings heading into Week 13. NFL Insider Tom Pelissero and Rich discuss the Minnesota Vikings’ commitment to struggling 2nd-year QB JJ McCarthy, how long Shedeur Sanders will remain the Cleveland Browns’ starting QB, how Chip Kelly botched his high-paying Las Vegas Raiders Offensive Coordinator job, and if Ole…

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Hour 1: Thanksgiving Day NFL Games Preview, plus NFL Network’s Kurt Warner 46:35

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Rich previews the NFL’s Cowboys vs Chiefs, Packers vs Lions, and Ravens vs Bengals Thanksgiving Day games. Pro Football Hall of Famer/NFL Network analyst Kurt Warner and Rich discuss the struggles of Minnesota Vikings QB JJ McCarthy, what advice he has for the Philadelphia Eagles’ inconsistent offense, what the game tape says about Shedeur Sanders’…

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Hour 3: Aaron Rodgers Update, Jerry Talks Pickens Extension, plus FOX Sports’ Mark Schlereth 46:49

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NFL on Fox Analyst/’Stinkin’ Truth’ podcast host Mark Schlereth and Rich discuss the below-the-belt punch Carolina Panthers DB Tre’von Moehrig delivered on San Francisco 49ers WR Jauan Jennings, break down the NFC playoff picture heading down the stretch of the season, if the Indianapolis Colts can stave off the Houston Texans and Jacksonville Jagu…

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Hour 2: ‘Overreaction Tuesday,’ plus Comedian Jim Gaffigan In-Studio 46:33

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Rich previews Shedeur Sanders’s next start for the Cleveland Browns against the San Francisco 49ers, and in ‘What’s More Likely’ weighs in whether or not the Niners regret Brock Purdy’s big contract, Myles’ Garrett’s chances to shatter the NFL single-season sack record, the expectations for Buffalo Bills HC Sean McDermott this year, Jaxon Smith-Nji…

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Hour 1: Panthers-49ers Reactions, plus Michigan Head Coach Sherrone Moore 46:34

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Rich breaks down Christian McCaffrey carrying the San Francisco 49ers’ Monday Night Football win over the Panthers despite Brock Purdy’s 3 interceptions, and weighs in on the below-the-belt shenanigans between Carolina DB Tre’von Moehrig and Niners WR Jauan Jennings. Michigan HC Sherrone Moore and UM alum Rich break down the Wolverines’ mindset hea…

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Hour 3: Giants vs Lions Wild Ride, Shedeur Starting Again, plus Michigan-Ohio State Honking 46:52

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Rich reacts to Shedeur Sanders being named the Browns’ Week 13 starting QB, and breaks down the New York Giants blowing another late lead in their Week 12 loss to the Detroit Lions in a game that featured a Jameis Winston touchdown reception and a monster day from Jahmyr Gibbs. Cowboys fans callers come out of the woodwork after Dallas’ big comebac…

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Hour 2: Shedeur Sanders Reactions, Raiders Fire Chip Kelly, Burrow’s Thanksgiving Day Return 46:37

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Rich comments on Shedeur Sanders getting the win for the Cleveland Browns over the Las Vegas Raiders in his first NFL start, weighs in on the Pete Carroll firing OC Chip Kelly after falling to 2-9 on the season, and reacts to Vikings QB JJ McCarthy entering the Concussion Protocol after suffering through another tough week in Minnesota’s loss to th…

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Hour 1: Cowboys’ Comeback, Rams Rout Bucs, Rich Can’t Quit the Chiefs, Bears Rolling 46:34

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Rich reacts to the Dallas Cowboys’ stunning comeback win over the Eagles after trailing by 21 points at halftime, and comments on what’s next for Philadelphia’s dysfunction-riddled locker room after Sunday’s disheartening loss to their NFC East archrival. Rich explains why MVP frontrunner Matthew Stafford and the rolling Los Angeles Rams are the NF…

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NFL Week 12: Rams Roll, Eagles' Panic Time, Gibbs Goes Off (Again) 42:51

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A weekly staple on 'The Rich Eisen Show' since 2018, 'Overreaction Monday' is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today's topics: 1:00 - Super Bowl 60 is the Rams' to lose 6:55 - We don't know who the 2nd-best team in the NFL is 11:20 - The Steelers trading away George Pickens was far worse than…

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Hour 3: ‘What’s More Likely,’ Aaron Rodgers Update, plus ‘Crystal Ball It’ for Thanksgiving Week Games 46:25

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Rich reacts to Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin’s latestupdate on Aaron Rodgers’ injury status, and in ‘What’s More Likely’ weighs in on 49ers’ backup Mac Jones and Texans’ backup Davis Mills, Joe Burrow, Drake Maye, Bears vs Steelers, Raiders vs Browns, Eagles vs Cowboys, Rams, Jets, Giants, Seahawks and more. Rich and the guys predict h…

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Hour 2: Week 12’s Top 5 Games, Texans’ “Championship Defense,” plus NFL Insider Tom Pelissero 46:23

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NFL Insider Tom Pelissero and Rich discuss Cincinnati Bengals QB JoeBurrow’s availability for Week 12, Steelers QB Aaron Rodgers’ status forPittsburgh’s upcoming game against the Chicago Bears, Shedeur Sanders’ first NFL start for the Cleveland Browns, the expectations facing JJ McCarthy with the Minnesota Vikings’ playoff hopes on the line, and mo…

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Hour 1: Bills-Texans Recap, Joe Burrow’s Status, plus Actor Jake Lacy In-Studio 45:41

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Rich voices his concerns for the Buffalo Bills after falling to 7-4 on the year and two games behind the New England Patriots in the AFC East after their Thursday Night Football loss to the Houston Texans. Actor Jake Lacy joins Rich in-studio to discuss his new ‘All Her Fault’ Peacock series, shares his favorite memories of making season 1 of ‘The …

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Episode 330 Filmmaker Jasmine Hirst 1:04:54

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Longtime friend and collaborator of Lydia and friend of The Lydian Spin, Jasmine returns to the show. She is a filmmaker and artist who wrote letters to Aileen Wuornos and later conducted a filmed interview with her on death row in 1997. Jasmine's footage appears in the new Netflix documentary Aileen: Queen of Serial Killers; Wuornos had asked her …

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Hour 3: ‘Higher Register’ for NFL Week 12, plus ‘Breaking Bad/Pluribus’ Creator Vince Gilligan In-Studio 46:38

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Rich and the guys debate if we’ll see Joe Burrow’s return to the Cincinnati Bengals in Week 12 after missing much of the season with a turf toe injury, and in ‘Higher Register’ share their less-than-confident takes on the Kansas City Chiefs, Dallas Cowboys, and Minnesota Vikings QB JJ McCarthy. ‘Breaking Bad’ creator Vince Gilligan joins Rich in-st…

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Hour 2: NFL Week 12’s Big Stakes, plus Bills Superfan Luke Russert 46:23

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Rich previews what at stake in NFL Week 12 for many teams includingBills vs Texans, Colts vs Chiefs, Eagles vs Cowboys, Steelers vs Bears, Giants vs Lions, Vikings vs Packers and more. MS NOW’s Luke Russert and Rich discuss his cameo in the upcoming‘Holiday Touchdown’ Hallmark Channel movie, the state of his beloved Buffalo Bills, and more. Rich we…

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Hour 1: Eagles’ Dysfunction, Rodgers’ Week 12 Status, plus Patriots Insider Tom Curran 46:20

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Rich reacts to the latest rumors out of Philadelphia that Eagles’teammates are growing frustrated with the play of QB Jalen Hurts, and weighs in on Pittsburgh Steelers QB Aaron Rodgers’ will-he-or-won’t-he-play Week 12 decision. NBC Sports Boston’s Tom Curran and Rich discuss the Patriots’ surprising9-2 record this season, how Drake Maye went from …

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Reactions to John Cena's epic final WWE RAW episode from MSG, Roman Reigns surprise return, AJ Lee's appearance, and much more 1:31:48

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O'Shea and TJ react to a memorable Monday Night Raw from MSG which saw John Cena make his final appearance in the world's most famous arena. They also discuss the upcoming Survivor Series PLE and the 5-on-5 Men's and Women's teams. They also give a shout out to everyone that participated last week in AEW's "Blood and Guts", especially to the women …

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Hour 3: Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio and O’Shea Jackson Jr. In-Studio 46:48

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Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio and Rich discuss Aaron Rodgers’ chances to start for the Pittsburgh Steelers vs the Chicago Bears in Week 12 with a fracture in his left wrist, which NFL coaches are feeling the most heat under the their hot seats, if the New York Giants would consider Ole Miss’ Lane Kiffin as their next head coach, the Philadelphia …

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Hour 2: New NFL Power Rankings, Dodgers C Will Smith, and Robert De Niro Keeps His Word 46:35

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Rich reveals his updated NFL Power Rankings heading into Week 12. Dodgers catcher Will Smith and Rich revisit the craziest moments from the wild 2025 World Series including the play at the plate that came inches away from deciding the series in favor of the Blue Jays, his extra innings home run in Game 7, Yoshinobu Yamamoto’s pitching heroics, and …

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Hour 1: Penix Surgery, Shedeur QB1, LeBron Returns, plus NFL Network’s Kurt Warner 46:35

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Rich reacts to the Atlanta Falcons announcing QB Michael Penix Jr. will miss the rest of the season with an ACL injury, and weighs in on the Cleveland Browns officially naming Shedeur Sanders their week 12 starting quarterback against the Las Vegas Raiders. Pro Football Hall of Famer/NFL Network analyst Kurt Warner and Rich discuss the challenges A…