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This isn’t your typical true crime story. Brittani Ard steps back into the shadowy labyrinth of memories, scars, and fragile ties that bind us to our past. Where wounds still ache and the bonds of connection blur between salvation and entrapment. After revealing her own story in the first 8 chapters, she’s pulling at the threads of the past—threads so delicate they threaten to unravel everything. This time, it’s not just her story. It’s the stories of others whose lives intertwine with hers ...
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Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators le ...
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We will be back next week with another episode of You Probably Think This Story's About You. In the meantime enjoy this episode of The Secret Room. _____ The Secret Room: “On the Backs of Turtles.” Dustin reveals a childhood secret he kept from his father for thirty years. The story centers on a regrettable and cruel act Dustin committed as a child…
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We're rereleasing an episode from our original coverage of the Kowalski case that was published on 11/7/2023. *** With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statem…
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We are hard at work on season 3, we'll be back soon with more episodes. For now enjoy this conversation with Michele and Jake from LoveLustFear. ___ Brittani Ard, host of You Probably Think This Story's About You, joins Jake and Michele on lovelustfridays for a raw and thoughtful conversation about trauma, relationships, and the emotional weight of…
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In part two of our series on the lawsuit against Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex continue unpacking the story of Madison Meyer, whose medical journey led to a separation from her parents. After video surveillance at Rady’s starts, a series of escalating concerns, reports to child protective services, and ultimately, a cour…
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We'll be back next week with another episode. In the meantime enjoy Season 11 of Dakota Spotlight. ___ Welcome to Season 11 of Dakota Spotlight. This season, we uncover the haunting 1999 murder of a young man in Bismarck, North Dakota—a tragic event that reverberated through the community and left a lasting impact on everyone involved. In Episode 1…
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In the first part of our four part Case Files series diving into the upcoming lawsuit against Rady Children’s in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex start with looking into preteen Madison Meyer’s string of diagnoses like Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, POTS, CRPS, and more. They break down what these conditions are and why they - coupled with Madison’s rapid de…
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This week host Brittani Ard puts producer Sydney Gladu behind the mic to talk through the making of season 2. The two talk about the process of sharing listener stories. You will also hear a sneak peek into what’s next for the show. All chapters are available ad free on Patreon: https://patreon.com/BrittaniArd Share your story with Brittani. Produc…
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In season 5, we shared a bit of Andrea’s conversation with her parents, and we’re releasing even more in this episode of case files. If you’ve been with us from the beginning, you’re familiar with Andrea’s sister's case. Today we hear from Megan and Andrea’s parents as they reflect on their experiences and share their hopes for their grandchildren.…
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We'll be back next week. In the meantime, enjoy this episode of Second Hand Therapy: Love, Vulnerability and Boundaries It's a deep dive into the complexities of modern relationships today... Louie opens up about his struggles with balancing healthy boundaries and offering genuine love, while reflecting on his partner's perceived lack of effort in …
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In this week’s episode of Case Files, we’re joined by Rachel Bernstein, a therapist specializing in cults and the host of the podcast IndoctriNation. Andrea and Rachel delve into the crossover between those in the sphere of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators and cults. Rachel talks about the complexity of cult dynamics, the emotional and psychologica…
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Brittani Ard reconnects with season 2 guests Lou and Eve, who formed an unexpected friendship after discovering they had survived an abusive relationship with the same man. In this candid follow-up conversation, Lou and Eve discuss the public response to their podcast episode, their personal milestones in the healing process, and how their traumati…
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A student at the University of Utah, Lauren McCluskey began receiving threatening messages from her ex-boyfriend in the fall of 2018. For nearly three weeks, concerned for her safety, she reported this harassment to campus police again and again. Today’s episode is about the deadly cost of warnings ignored—and what happens when the people we trust …
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In this episode, Andrea is joined by Celisia Stanton, the host and creator of Truer Crime. Andrea and Celisia dive into the Susan Smith case, a story that garnered national attention in the 90s. Through talking about the case, they segue into the complex themes surrounding false accusations, media representation, racial bias, mental health, and the…
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Brittani and Cash, season two guest who shared her personal story of foster care, catch up on the wake Cash’s story has made in her own life. Cash discusses the impact of sharing her narrative, the feedback received from her adopted family, and the importance of framing traumatic experiences in an empowering way. All chapters are available ad free …
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We're sharing an episode of another podcast we love, Betrayal Weekly. In this episode, we meet "Kelsey." Her relationship is put to the test when her partner receives a terminal diagnosis. You can listen to Pt. 2 on the Betrayal Weekly feed: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-26-kelsey-pt-2/id1615637724?i=1000685110134. *** Our lives are all …
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This week, our Andrea is joined by Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal and There and Gone: South Street. Gunning speaks on her transition from television to podcasting. They both discuss the ethical consideration of the real-world consequences of sharing true crime stories, as well as the emotional weight of telling these stories with care…
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Andrea Dunlop, creator of "Nobody Should Believe Me," joins Brittani for an intimate studio conversation about the reality behind podcast success and the bumps along the way. Together, they pull back the curtain on their creative processes, share hard-won insights from their journeys, and reveal exclusive details about their upcoming projects. All …
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We have a very special bonus episode for you all! Andrea is joined by Brittani Ard, the host and creator of the breakout show, You Probably Think This Story’s About You. Listeners get to hear how Andrea and Britt evolved their shows from what started off as limited series into what they are today. They touch on why they both decided to independentl…
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Our Ancestors Were Messy, is a show about the ancestors and all their drama. On each episode, host Nichole Hill and her guests unpack the ancestors’ historical schemes, feuds, and quests to examine how their relationships with one another shaped who we are today. Before the 1960s nearly every major city in the nation had a newspaper written for, by…
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Welcome to our Season 5 Mailbag Episode! This time we’re joined by more of our fabulous Nobody Should Believe Me team: head producer Myrriah Gossett, lead researcher Erin Ajayi, story editor Nichole Hill, and producer Greta Stromquist. The team addresses questions about our coverage of Sophie’s faith, the role that race played in this season, behin…
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Over 390,000 children are in the foster care system. Each one needs someone to advocate for them. Brit has been a volunteer for the King County CASA program for almost 10 years and she believes that we need to make sure all children can grow up safe and loved. This is a special episode that is part of Podcasthon March 15th-21st – a global collabora…
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[Gina’s Story Part 3/3] Twenty years after their first romance imploded, Gina and Viv cautiously rebuild—this time with intention rather than impulse. What begins as innocent daily check-ins quickly intensifies, compelling Gina to clear her dating roster and fly to Colorado. As they navigate their reunion with careful boundaries, both discover they…
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We have a very fun guest on NSBM Case Files this week: V Spehar aka Under the Desk News! In this engaging conversation, V and Andrea discuss the whirlwind that has been the beginning of 2025, the importance of ethical responsibility in media and journalism, and working through the gut-punch of grief. They discuss how their careers pivoted in unexpe…
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[Gina’s Story Part 2/3] How often do our exes actually go to therapy and what stars have to align to bring two people back together? In this chapter, we trace back through the wreckage of their first love to understand why everyone warned Gina not to reach out to Viv. As they each unpack their past and 1000 miles apart - from electric beginnings to…
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To officially wrap up season 5, we’ve brought in our friend, Detective Mike Weber, to discuss his thoughts on the police investigation into Sophie Hartman. He walks listeners through the extensive police reports and analyzes the evidence collected, including Sophie’s journal entries. Andrea and Detective Mike discuss the complexities surrounding ch…
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[Gina’s Story Part 1/3] In this chapter, we follow Gina on her journey from a self-described "passive participant" to someone actively choosing her path. After a decade of comfortable numbness in her marriage, the universe delivered three seismic shifts: a divorce, a job loss, and the sale of her house. At 42, Gina found herself at a major crossroa…
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Episode 8 was originally our season finale, but a source we’d been speaking to for months bravely decided to go on the record. This is Andrea’s conversation with Chalice Howard, Sophie’s friend of nearly 10 years. With many similarities, being white single moms of adoptive black daughters and a shared faith, Chalice and Sophie found a kinship with …
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This episode references to sexual assault and other mature themes. [Cash’s Story Part 2/2] Not every foster parent is equipped to navigate the delicate balance of care and control—and not all have the best intentions. Cash returns to the shadowed emotional landscape of the Love family household, hoping to understand the world she survived. What she…
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In our season finale, we see Sophie Hartman follow in the footsteps of the Kowalski family, Andrea’s sister Megan Carter and others, as she files a lawsuit against Seattle Children’s and the others who investigated her for Medical Child Abuse. Journalist Olivia LaVoice shares her thoughts about how this has all played out. We hear Sophie rebranding…
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[Cash’s Story Part 1/2] Cash’s journey through foster care is a tale of survival in a system full of harsh realities. Torn from her home and separated from her siblings, she was thrust into a world of uncertain foster placements, each one a new battle with its own dark challenges. In a system that seemed indifferent to her pain, Cash fought back wi…
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We examine perhaps the most important piece of the complex puzzle of the Hartman case: what Sophie wrote about it in her journals. We’re joined by Dr. James Hamilton, an MBP expert with a PhD in clinical psychology, to walk us through some of Sophie’s most chilling journal entries collected in the case files. We also look at Sophie’s disturbing int…
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This episode references to sexual assault and other mature themes. The chapters we fear the most often hold the keys to our liberation. For Brittani, confronting the sexual assault she endured at 13 was not just a reckoning—it was a battle for her own voice. Her journey was anything but straightforward, winding through years of suppressed memories,…
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Sophie insists to police and others that the real problem isn’t that she’s abusing her daughter but that Seattle Children’s–a world class pediatric hospital–simply doesn’t understand her daughter’s rare condition: Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood. But according to police interviews, very few people in C’s orbit ever witnessed an episode, and if …
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It's pub day!! The Mother Next Door is officially out in the world. Thank you to everyone for all of your support! For our amazing podcast listeners, we have a very special treat for you: a 40 MINUTE exclusive excerpt of the audiobook! Enjoy! *** Order The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/…
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Season 2 will resume next week, in the meantime enjoy this episode from lovelustfear! All chapters are available ad free on Patreon: https://patreon.com/BrittaniArd Share your story with Brittani. Sponsor information at https://brittaniard.com/sponsors ____ lovelustfear | emma | you should be scared Emma seeks comfort in the arms of a former client…
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In 2020, the Hartmans grow even more isolated as Covid hits: Sophie pulls C out of school citing worsening health and breaks with the church community who’ve been supporting her and her daughters. Concerns for abuse grow as Sophie begins to push a new narrative that C has central precocious puberty (CPP), a condition that causes the body to go thro…
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Season 2 is currently in production! While we put the finishing touches on upcoming episodes, we're excited to share something special: the first episode of The Confessions of Anthony Raimondi. __ The Confessions of Anthony Raimondi–Episode 1: GenesisIn 1978, Pope John Paul I was found dead in his bed just 33 days after he was elected. The official…
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From corporate sponsorships to fundraisers large and small, Sophie Hartman was an expert at raising money for C’s various medical devices, mobility aids, and specialized treatments. But were any of these things actually needed? We hear audio from the police interviews of Sophie’s next door neighbors and a school aide who note that they rarely saw C…
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This episode references domestic violence and other mature themes. [Lou’s Story Part 3/3] Two women, bound by a shared history of manipulation and abuse. What started as Lou’s solitary search for a single photograph spiraled into an unexpected connection with Eve —another woman ensnared by the same dark past. Together, they began to unearth what ha…
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Immediately after moving with C and M from Zambia to Seattle, WA, Sophie starts bringing C to various doctors, reporting severe health issues. Just three days after C’s third birthday, she is diagnosed with Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood (AHC), a rare, one-in-a-million neurological disorder. Simultaneously, Sophie enrolls her older daughter, M…
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This episode references domestic violence and other mature themes. [Lou’s Story Part 2/3] Lou is searching for a photograph of John — but it’s not just a picture she’s after. Beneath the surface of one man’s destruction lies a tangled web of resilience and buried truths waiting to be uncovered. In this chapter layers of manipulation are stripped aw…
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In the second episode of season 5, Andrea dives into how Sophie’s Evangelical Christian beliefs colored her worldview. From claiming that adopting a child from Zambia was God’s path for her life to allegedly performing an exorcism, Sophie’s faith is an integral part of this case. We hear from Dr. Lauren Turek, an Associate Professor of History at T…
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This episode references domestic violence and other mature themes. [Lou’s Story Part 1/3] Lou's story isn’t just about survival—it’s a battle cry of reclamation. In this chapter she unravels the deeply personal account of her entanglement with John, her manipulative and abusive ex-boyfriend. The emotional wounds of their relationship left scars tha…
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Season five of Nobody Should Believe Me tells the story of Sophie Hartman: a young, white midwestern evangelical missionary who travels to Zambia and comes home with two vulnerable sisters in her care. When she returns to the states, she lands far away from her family in Seattle, WA where she embarks on a medical odyssey with her younger daughter, …
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We begin the season by delving into Sophie Hartman’s 2016 memoir about her time in Zambia, Crowns of Beauty, where we learn about how a young woman from Michigan came to be the adopted mother of two Zambian girls by the age of 25. We learn about Sophie’s deep roots in evangelical Christianity and her state of mind prior to and during the adoptions …
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Our stories rarely unfold the way we expect. In the first eight chapters, Brittani Ard uncovered something about herself she never expected: the most powerful weapon she had was her own voice. It wasn’t just a tool for healing — it was a force strong enough to confront her past and rewrite her future. But that discovery came at a cost. Retracing Ka…
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In this last bonus episode before our season 5 premiere next week, we’re airing Andrea’s conversation with Dr. Catherine Ayoub, an associate professor at Harvard Medical School, APSAC member, nurse practitioner, and counseling and consulting psychologist. Cathy tells listeners about her background and first encounter with Munchausen by Proxy. She a…
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Season five of Nobody Should Believe Me tells the story of Sophie Hartman: a young, white midwestern evangelical missionary who travels to Zambia and comes home with two vulnerable sisters in her care. When she returns to the states, she lands far away from her family in Seattle, WA where she embarks on a medical odyssey with her younger daughter, …
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In the final part of our miniseries covering the Jesika Jones case, Andrea is once again joined by Detective Mike Weber, who shares the series of events from Jesika’s first bond violation through to her 60 year sentencing, from his perspective as law enforcement. He shares the differences in how seriously child abuse cases are taken when there’s a …
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Welcome back to the 3rd installment of our 4-part series on the Jesika Jones case. In this episode, Andrea is wrapping up her conversation with Derek Jones. Derek recaps the fallout after Jesika’s lies finally start to unravel: the frustrating journey of working with the DA on the case, Jesika’s sentencing, and how his kids are doing today. Stay tu…
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