Welcome to the Fire Rescue Wellness Podcast! My name is Annette Zapp (or AZ), and I'm a Retired Career Firefighter and Ph.D. Student on a mission to ensure that every firefighter feels physically, mentally, and emotionally supported in their work. Join my guests and me as we have the critical conversations that help firefighters stay healthy and well.
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We’re your hosts, Holly and Danny, and we are bringing you real-life conversations with today’s most inspirational game-changers in education. Guests come to the table to discuss hot topics, promote innovative ideas, and share how they turn their passion into purpose and inspiration into Edspiration! We cover addiction, mindfulness, suicide, project based learning, building relationships, innovative learning, exceptional education, nutrition, education policy, and more!
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Episode 196: Firefighter Exercise Snacks with Annette Zapp, CISSN, CSCS*D
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18:46Exercise snacks are not food, but rather brief bouts of moderate to intense exercise that do not require equipment. The coolest part is that they can improve cardiometabolic and mental health, and even potentially performance in firefighters. So what, now what?!? Anchor these snacks to events that are already happening in your day! Email AZ to find…
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Episode 199 Spotlight: Throwing it Back to the OG Episode with Vince Zittnan
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3:31I fought starting a podcast for five years. But once I did, I was so happy I took the plunge. Now we're three years in and Episode 200 is looming. Hear a little bit from my very first episode with Vince Zittnan from Fire and Iron Media, my production company. Check out the original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW…
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Episode 198: From AT for Fire to Firefighting AT with Maura Shea
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57:37Two things can be true at once. Maura Shea is one of the best speakers and podcast guests I've ever had, and Maura Shea absolutely hates being on podcasts. In fact, she's now been on a grand total of three, and they've all been with me! I'm so appreciative of her time, insight, and expertise, and you're going to love hearing about her transition fr…
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Episode 197 Spotlight: The Magic of a Shorter Work Week with James Geering
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4:23Almost two years ago, James Geering originally appeared on my podcast (catch the entire episode here), and since then, several departments across the country have adopted a shorter work week. We need to keep pushing toward creating healthier work environments for firefighters because change is possible! ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purc…
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Episode 195 Spotlight: Breaking Out of the Echo Chamber
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6:07Innovation is found outside of silos and sometimes you learn the most in places you might not belong. AZ recaps echo chambers in this week's FRW Spotlight. Hear the entire original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellness on the soc…
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Episode 194: Designing a Fire Academy PT Program Part II with Annette Zapp, CSCS*D
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53:04Check out Part II of how I think about programming for an academy. So what, now what? Rules I live by: 1-Arbitrary is not the way. 2-We don't train for fictional demands. 3-Do no harm! 4-A rising tide lifts all ships. Be a tide. 5-Wash, Rinse, Repeat Hit this link to request a consult to figure out your training academy challenges! ***** Register f…
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Episode 193 Spotlight: Medicine on the Fringe with Alyson Evans
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10:30Alyson Evans talks about fringe medicine in this week's FRW Spotlight. Hear what she says about CBD and efficacy in the fire service. Hear the original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellness on the socials... IG | LinkedIn | Twitt…
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Episode 192: Designing a Fire Academy PT Program Part I with Annette Zapp, CSCS*D
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39:01Register for the Teambuildr event on 8.11! It's free-99! Listen to the Episode on NFPA 1582 vs 1580 ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellness on the socials... IG | LinkedIn | Twitter Discount Code: FRW20 at Fluid Nutrition Affiliate Links Check o…
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Episode 191 Spotlight: D-K vs. Imposter Syndrome
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5:00I get it. Firefighters see black and white, and shades of grey don't exist. Therefore, it's easier for them to believe in absolutes vs nuance. Today's FRW Spotlight outlines why that might not be a great idea. Hear the full episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in …
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Episode 190: NFPA 1580 vs. 1582: What’s New and Why It Matters Mike Conner and Jake Mota
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1:09:13NFPA 1582 has been updated and renamed as 1580. Come along on my conversation with Dr. Jacob Mota and Mike Conner as they discuss the changes. Hear Jake's first FRW appearance here Hear Mike's first FRW appearance here So what, now what?!? The NFPA changes may have wide-reaching effects, some unintended. It’s important to know what the guidelines m…
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Episode 189 Spotlight: Long C-19 with Dr. Burriesci, DPT
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5:40Acutely, C-19 took the fire service out at our knees, and many members are still suffering from long-term issues. Hear what Dr. Burriesci, DPT, says about some of the impacts. Check out the full-length episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescu…
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Episode 188: Compelling Purpose with Tessa Koschel, Ph.D., CSCS
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1:00:10I had the opportunity to meet Dr. Tessa Koschel at the NSCA Northwest regional conference last summer, and I knew we had to be friends. Tessa also recently spoke at the inaugural Women's Tactical Human Performance Summit in OKC Tessa Koschel is married to an Iraq War Veteran who is now an ER Physician, and the daughter of a military family. Dr. Kos…
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Goal setting is tricky, and behavioral goals work far better than outcome goals. Terms like "more," "less," and "try" trip us up during execution. Hear about SMAR goal setting in today's Spotlight. Hear the original episode here ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Foll…
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Episode 186: More Whiskey, Wine and Whining with Jay Dawes, Ph.D., CSCS
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59:58In today’s episode, Dawes and I kicked back with some crispy beverages and reflected on fire academy training. It’s a hot topic among instructors, and in my opinion, too often, random acts of fitness dominate the physical training sessions. But here’s the thing...during the 24-1 OSU-OKC academy, I implemented a structured and ability-based program …
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Episode 185 Spotlight: Nutrition Basics for Firefighters with Maureen Stoecklein
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7:39Maureen Stoecklein is a retired firefighter and current dietitian for the Detroit Tigers. Today, Moe shines a spotlight on nutrition basics for firefighters. Hear the original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellness on the socials.…
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In today's episode, Dr. Burgess and I chatted about a singular study he conducted using an infrared sauna in firefighters who were conducting training evolutions. Much more research needs to be conducted before making overarching recommendations in fire. Dr. Jeff Burgess is the Associate Dean for Research in Public Health, Community, Environment, a…
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Episode 183 Spotlight: Attacking Academy Training with Science with Dr. Jacob Mota, PhD
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4:27The objective: Prepare academy recruits for the physical demands of the job. The typical result: Certain fitness metrics improve, injuries occur among some recruits, and it remains unclear whether these gains actually enhance job performance. Sport science has entered the chat and labs such as Dr. Mota's are looking at what really matters and what …
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Episode 182: Research Considerations with Annette Zapp, MA, CISSN, CSCS*D
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39:25Get involved in the female firefighter body scanning project! Hear the previous FRW Podcast Episode here So what, now what?!? All research isn't created equal. Be a savvy research consumer by following the 12 tips presented on this episode! ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career …
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Episode 181 Spotlight: The Risk of Unfit with Dan Bornstein
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9:30The state of unfitness in our country puts the United States at both a national security and public safety risk. Hear Dan Bornstein's take on the situation and listen to the entire episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellness on the soc…
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Episode 180: Needs Analysis for Health and Wellness Services
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31:21I’m teaching my fourth cohort of Building Your Career in Fire: A Health and Wellness Professionals' Roadmap (you can join the waitlist for the next one here). While fire departments need support, they often don’t know exactly what they need—and neither do the professionals trying to help them. That's where the comprehensive needs analysis comes in.…
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Episode 179 Spotlight: Helping Ourselves First
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10:15In today’s Spotlight, I discuss caring for ourselves before turning to others for help. Don’t get me wrong—asking for help is valuable! But if you’re unwilling to take even the smallest steps on your own, no outside support will truly make a difference. Bottom line: You can't outsource the entirety of your health and wellness! ***** Register for 7-…
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Episode 178: Supporting the Spouses and Fire Families with Raquel Lorenzen
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54:45In today's episode, you get to meet Raquel Lorenzen. If that name sounds familiar, you may have heard a previous episode with her spouse, JLo! You can listen here if you missed it. Raquel Lorenzen is blessed to be married to her high school sweetheart, Lt. Justin Lorenzen, also known as “Jlo," for 20 years, and looks forward to each new adventure l…
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Episode 177 Spotlight: Strength Sports with Sarah Johnson
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9:30Join incredibly strong firefighter Sarah Johnson as she recaps the three strength sports she participates in. Sarah recently moved across the country to be closer to her coach, Alec, and I'm working on getting her back on the show! Hear the original episode here ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for…
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Episode 176: Wherein Chaos Enters AZ's House with Megs and VFP
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50:49Last week I requested listener questions and as usual, one of you delivered! (Thanks Paul P!) Previous guests Megan Lautz (The Rescue RD) and Vanessa Frost-Piedrahita (FirefighterStrengthCoach) answered questions and basically created chaos around the kitchen table. They also ate all my Ratio yogurt (which is honestly fair because it's the BEST and…
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In today's episode I talk about how my crappy vision may impart some knowledge on why you might find it challenging to get started on your own health and wellness journey. Check out the original episode here ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellne…
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Episode 174: The Importance of Stories with Annette Zapp, CSCS*D
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21:03Final chance to donate to Arati's Go-Fund-Me Last chance to join us for the Women's Tactical Human Performance Summit! Use the code FRW20 for 20% off at Fluid Nutrition Today's episode is a quick recap of my trip to NYC to present at the Tunnel to Towers/Guardian Revival Summit. I was once again reminded about the importance of telling our stories …
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Episode 173 Spotlight: Annual Fitness Testing with Vanessa Frost
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8:41In this week's FRW Spotlight you'll hear from Vanessa Frost (or VFP as I call her) regarding the fitness testing conducted at Pflugerville fire. You an hear the entire episode here. Email Vanessa to get access to the manifesto: [email protected] ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Buildi…
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Episode 172: Listening When Our Body Whispers with Tyler Barrett
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49:46Last chance to get registered for the Women's Tactical Human Performance Summit! Live and Virtual options available 5.9.25! Check out Tyler's previous episode! Today, you'll get to hear once again from Tyler Barrett. She's a Savannah Engineer and a strength and conditioning coach who runs 100-milers for fun. So what, now what?!? Whe…
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Episode 171 Spotlight: Wellness Professional Spotlight
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7:52There are many different health and wellness professionals that can positively impact firefighters and fire departments. I talk a lot about Athletic Trainers, but in today's FRW Spotlight I shine the light on the others. You can hear the original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for B…
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Episode 170: The Power of a 30-year-old Photo with Major Chris Fields (ret)
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1:04:53This episode originally aired in the spring of 2023, long before I knew I’d one day call Oklahoma home. This past Saturday, I attended the 30th anniversary ceremony of the Oklahoma City Bombing. A recurring theme throughout the event was the “Oklahoma Standard”—a powerful way of showing up for others that I’ve now witnessed firsthand. After the cer…
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Episode 169 Spotlight: Bullet Points are Bullsh**t! with Joey Antonio
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8:16In today's Spotlight Episode, Joey Antonio riffs on sport supplements and how telling a story is important when educating. You can hear the entire original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellness on the socials... IG | LinkedIn | T…
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Episode 168: Finding Balance with Jay Dawes, Ph.D., CSCS
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46:16Register for the Women's Tactical Human Performance Summit Today’s guest is Dr. Jay Dawes—one of the pioneers in tactical performance and research. Jay and I first connected nearly six years ago, and now we’re colleagues at Oklahoma State University. In this episode, we explore what it means to find balance in training. Jay shares a memorable analo…
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In this week's FRW Spotlight Episode, AZ digs into the challenges with DIY. Tune in and make sure to share the episode with another agency! ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellness on the socials... IG | LinkedIn | Twitter Discount Code: FRW20 at…
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Hop back and listen to Arati's previous episode here! Now, jump over and donate to our fundraiser. In her first episode, Arati mentioned that she would not eat a donut for $2000. It would take $2001. We're raising a minimum of $2001, which will make Arati eat a donut from Glazed and Confused. She doesn't know it, but I'll probably make her live str…
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Episode 165 Spotlight: Joy Portfolio Diversification with Dr. Shanté Cofield, PT, DPT, OCS
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5:21In this week's Spotlight, Shante Cofield, the Movement Maestro will hit you in the feels regarding joy. Listen to the original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellness on the socials... IG | LinkedIn | Twitter Discount Code: FRW20 a…
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Episode 164: Aggressive Search Saves Lives with Justin Lorenzen
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57:11I had no idea how many great people I'd meet within OKC Fire when I moved here 6.1.24. Today I introduce you to J Lo! He's the 5th OKC fire personnel that's appeared on the FRW Podcast and I can't wait for you to hear about the OKC Fire internal rescue survey, the national Fire Rescue Survey and his contribution to the Book of Search. Justin “J Lo”…
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Episode 163 Spotlight: HIIT Might be IT! with Katie Hirsch, Ph.D.
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7:43In this Spotlight Episode, Katie Hirsch, Ph.D. riffs on how HIIT might be important for firefighters. Listen to the original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellness on the socials... IG | LinkedIn | Twitter Discount Code: FRW20 at …
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Episode 162: Firefighter Syndrome with Jadie Miller
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1:12:07Register for the Women's Tactical Summit! Get on the waitlist for AZ's course, Building a Career in Fire Jadie Miller has almost two decades of experience as a firefighter. Working for three different departments, she has served as a volunteer and today, still serves as an active professional firefighter within Ontario Canada, while also being the …
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Episode 161 Spotlight: The Power of Agency Fitness with Kelly Kennedy, Ph.D.
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8:19Today's Spotlight episode features Kelly Kennedy, Ph.D. We talked about her long career as an exercise physiologist and the importance of agency collaboration. Listen to the original podcast here ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire Rescue Wellness on the so…
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Episode 160: I'll do Everything I Can with Firefighter Paramedic Arati Rudd
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52:58I’ve been fortunate to receive an incredible gift—the opportunity to meet Arati Rudd. Honestly, my life now feels divided into two parts: Before Arati (BA) and After Arati (AA). My words can’t fully capture the impact of this amazing human, so please listen to her beautiful story so now your life will also be defined by BA and AA. So what, now what…
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Episode 159 Spotlight: Pathways Past Burnout with Jorge Carvajal
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7:52In this Spotlight episode, my dear friend Jorge Carvajal talks about burnout. He recognized the signs in me and was able to convey messages that no one else was able (or willing) to convey. Hear the original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Building Your Career in Fire Follow Fire…
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Episode 158: Academy Training and Injury Risk Mitigation with Taylor Goodman
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53:44Meet Taylor Goodman. She's a tiny dynamo on a mission to bring wellness to firefighters. Formally trained as a strength conditioning coach, Taylor Goodman considers herself a wellness educator more than anything. Over the last eight years she’s held roles in the wellness and fitness industry. From an adjunct instructor for anatomy and physiology to…
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Episode 157 Spotlight: Fitness Standard Validation with Dr. Jay Dawes
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9:29Today's Spotlight episode features my advisor, Dr. Jay Dawes. We explored topics such as fit for duty, the validation of fitness standards, and the occasional arbitrariness that can exist within public safety standards. Listen to the original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for Build…
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Episode 156: South Metro HPO Part V-Finding Hidden Heart Disease with Dr. Carrie Burns and Jeremy Gage, PA
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57:06South Metro Fire is making significant strides in human performance optimization, and today’s episode features Dr. Carrie Burns and PA Jeremy Gage. This dedicated medical team is identifying hidden heart disease and saving lives. Tune in to learn about the CCTA and AI-assisted scanning process used at SMFR. Dr. Burns joined South Metro Fire Rescue …
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Episode 155 Spotlight: Force Multipliers with Nate Palin
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7:48This week's spotlight features Nate Palin, former Tactical Manager at the NSCA and current owner of AGD-Any Given Day. Nate talks about hiring professionals, using personnel as force multipliers and recognizing the value of mental health interventions. Listen to the original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag h…
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Episode 154: Broken Things-Firefighter Injury and Recovery with Zig and AZ
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Episode 153 Spolight: Small Changes, Big Results with Lt. Andy Scott
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7:34In this Spotlight, Lt. Andy Scott talks about the evolution of the health and wellness program at the Plainfield (IL) fire district. Here about some of the wins and lessons during Andy's tenure as the director of the program. Listen to the original episode here. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science here Purchase FRW Swag here Get on the Waitlist for…
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Episode 152: The Emergency Episode with Annette Zapp, CSCS*D
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16:01This week’s episode didn’t exactly go as planned… let’s just say the audio was a total mess. So, here’s the emergency episode—recorded in a quick 15 minutes before bedtime! 😅 In this one, I explain the power of making connections, how to do it effectively, and the best way to phrase your question when seeking help from subject matter experts. So wh…
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Episode 151 Spotlight: The Why Behind ISP PT with Troy Torrence
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8:29In this Spotlight episode, Troy Torrence shares insights on physical training in large academy classes and how the Indiana State Police has shifted away from using fitness as a form of punishment. Instead, Troy emphasizes a proactive approach focused on building up cadets and preparing them for long-term success. ***** Register for 7-Minute Science…
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Episode 150: Smoke and Stethoscopes: Firefighter Healthcare
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28:04If you listened to the episode, you know I’m running a care-package giveaway. Be sure to follow the instructions—I’ll draw the winner on February 18, 2025. In today’s episode, I discussed advocating for yourself with your primary care physician. I didn’t cover advanced heart health screening, but stay tuned—Dr. Carrie Burns from South Metro Fire wi…
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