Using the wisdom of the Enneagram, and ongoing discussion and conversation, we will grow compassion for ourselves and others, as well as a better understanding for why we do what we do!
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On September 2nd 2017, just east of Portland, Oregon, 150 hikers were trapped behind a wall of flames created by one mistake, one that would lead to immense fear and loss. Wildfire, a podcast from REI Co-op, investigates the causes and repercussions of this devastating wildfire.
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Joey Stabile Schewee - When Working Together Doesn't Work
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1:21:31LTM's very own Joey Stabile Schewee is back on The Journey! Gather everyone around the water cooler in the office and turn up the volume, because you and your team don't want to miss this episode. Joey, enneagram 8, the best enneagram teacher you'll find for the corporate setting shares with the listeners about her work. Which number mistypes the m…
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Dr. Molly (8) - Anxiety, Egregious Self Confidence, Grief and Loss
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1:16:32Dr. Molly sayyyyyyyyys, you're gonna love this podcast! Welcome Dr. Molly Brinkmann to The Journey! Enneagram 8, married to an enneagram 6 (Ryan), mother, veterinarian, and social media bad ass. We get a good amount of work talk in, co-parenting as an 8 and a 6, the anxiety of not only sixes, but all numbers, and more. Also a special spot appearanc…
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Each year, I try to make my way up to Wales to spend some quality time with Mark. We also try to record a sliver of our endless conversations. This year, we stumbled into the existential questions around astrology: Why did we get involved? Why are we still involved? And really, what is valuable about it…? Some of these ideas, along with many others…
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Austin Channing Brown (9) - Foreboding Joy, Full Of Myself
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1:22:28Welcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown! Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 employed at a church. Decision Making Passive Aggressive Anger Repressed Doing Foreboding Joy and Artificial Joy (brace yourselves 7s!) I'm Sti…
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Constellating Cosmos with Dan Waites
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1:14:25In this show, Dan returns—this time solo without SJ—to discuss the state of the world and some attractive underground theories. I always learn from Dan. He’s quite the investigator. With mundane astrology on his side, there is a cornucopia of ideas to explore that give that extra layer—or context—to everything that is happening. I loved this conver…
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Q&A Episode in the house! We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!). "Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?" Then we get to talk about: 9s with an 8 wing, or are they extroverted, or are they another number?! Gut Types How each individual number i…
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TEJ Live at 7 & 1 Books with Jen Rogers (8) - Objective Perspective, Dragon Slaying, Escape Plans
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1:15:52Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way! Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audie…
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Jen Hanson (2) - Boundaries, False Self-esteem, Forgive Yourself
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1:08:04Let's do some math. 2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey! Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings. Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries? The stren…
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Russ Hudson (5) - Holy Ideas, Cultural Parameters, What To Hold On To
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1:18:07Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind! The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne! How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years? Russ shares their 3 rules he …
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Tori Hastings (5) - Vulnerability, 2nd Shift, Engaging
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1:08:01Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5! As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence? "You don't achieve balance by pushing …
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In this little solo pod, I reflect on 16 years (2 Venus cycles) of podcasting and doing astrology. It’s been a journey. The show is part educational and a moment to check in with you all. A lot has changed in the 16 years of doing these, and I do feel there will be another 8, yet for now, I’m still pupating…. enjoy, adam to learn Astrology: ....to …
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Katie Whitlock (3) - Deceit, Escaping to the Future, 9fold
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1:15:53Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel). Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one Escaping to the future What do …
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Darnell (1) & Alex (8) Finale - Cohort, Excess, Indignation
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1:19:08Alex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne! If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your interest in the LTM Cohort program, we hope you will check it out and apply. Applications for the following year's Cohort program are accepted Ap…
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Lunar Standstills with Gemini Brett pt. 2
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1:19:06In this episode, Gemini Brett returns for the 2nd part of our little astronomy discussions. It's an essential lesson around the lunar standstill. Something clicked for me in this conversation. I hope it does for you as well. enjoy, adam his site: https://geminibrett.com to learn Astrology: ....to support my work and learn astrology all at the same …
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Sara Whitlock (2) - Saying No, Feeling v Thinking
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1:01:49You've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a part of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne (we'll get to hear from her daughter Katie in an upcoming episode!). PLUG TIME Great events co…
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Laura Murray (4) - Home, Hospitality, Spiritual Practice
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1:29:06Happy 2025 to everyone on their Enneagram Journey! And even to those who haven't started yet. The first episode of the year is fantastic and features pastor, spiritual director, and author Laura Murray, Enneagram 4. Laura is married to an Enneagram 5 The difference between Home and where you belong Some surprising Enneagram Wing discussion with Suz…
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Financial Astrology with Ray Merriman
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1:12:07I’m excited to share with you the long-overdue conversation with Ray Merriman. He’s been on my radar since the beginning, I just never felt the time was right to invite him on…until now. I’m glad I waited. I was able to keep up and we had an engaging chat about all things related to financial astrology. Even if you aren’t interested in the topic, I…
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Understanding the Zodiac with Gemini Brett
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1:27:47This show was meant to be about lunar standstills, yet that's not quite what happened. It often happens with Brett and I. Lots of Gemini between us. What ended up being discussed were the three main zodiacs, some astronomy, and a hint of the lunar standstill. We will treat this one as part 1; part 2 will cover what we originally set out to explore.…
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Jonathan Merritt (3) - Navigating Relationships, My Guncle and Me
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1:10:23Your Enneagram Godmother and an Enneagram Guncle got together for this INCREDIBLE conversation! If you don't know Jonathan yet, Enneagram 3, this is a wonderful introduction. "...othering the other that othered them." It'll make more sense after you hear him talk about it! Jonathan is a writer on faith and culture, the author of Learning To Speak G…
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The Enneagram Godmother + The Great Russ Hudson + The Reverend Where do we sign up?!?! Today's podcast episode comes from the LTM teaching event in Dallas, Br5aking The Cycle (don't worry, you'll learn why it is spelled that way and what 5a means). As you'll hear Joel explain, this 2 hour teaching is only the opening for the rest of the next 10 hou…
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Goddess Asteroids & the Venus Cycle with Andrea Michelle
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1:29:21In this show, Andrea Michelle joins me to discuss her fascinating work with fusing the Goddess Asteroids with the Venus synodic cycle. It's a novel approach, and one that I learned a lot from in talking with her. If you are a student of either, you are going to enjoy her insights tremendously. -adam her site: https://andreamichellehaeckel.com to wo…
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Its Q&A time on The Enneagram Journey! Suzanne and Joel sat down to record today's episode at The Micah Center and decided at the last moment to turn on the camera. Having the camera on contributed to the conversation about seeing a therapist and accountability, and the show just takes off from there. Some of the things you'll here in this episode:…
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Exploring the Outers with Mark Jones
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1:23:54Mark Jones returns to the show to exploring the state of the Outer Planets with me. I recently made my seasonal visit to Wales to hang with him and record a slice of our constant stream of philosophical conversations. It's always a pleasure to share these with you. I hope you learn something from being a fly on the wall with this one. Enjoy to work…
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Darnell (1) and Alex (8) - Be Right or In Relationship?, Triggers, Enneagram Cohort
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1:31:29The second half of 2024 is well underway and so is the second half of the 2024 Cohort Program. Welcome back Alex Reegan (enneagram 8) and Darnell Young (enneagram 1)! Our third guest, Matt Lesser (8), couldn't join us for this conversation, but he'll be back at the end of the year for sure! Today's episode is fantastic: Is "triggered" still a term …
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The Age of Uncertainty with Joe Landwehr
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1:16:50In this podcast, Joe Landwehr joins me to talk about this Age of Uncertainty—which is also part of the title of his latest book. He has over 50 years of experience with Astrology and takes a similar mythopoetic approach as I do. I'm glad he found me and reached out. It was a real treat to speak with him. Enjoy...and check out his book as well. his …
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Micky ScottBey Jones (1) - Accompaniment, Doula, Burnout
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1:18:02Meet The Justice Doula, Micky ScottBey Jones! Originally mistyped as an 8, which makes a ton of sense, she found her inner critic and her "inner BFF" as an Enneagram 1, and no accompanies others as they birth precious things into the world like love, empathy, self-compassion, liberation, healing and resilience. You can find out more about Micky at …
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Adam Gainsburg returns! It's been years since he was last on the show, but after quite the journey, he and I pick up right where we left off: talking about planetary cycles. I'm not sure how many times Adam has been on the show, but what I can say is that all his appearances have taught me something new about these synodic cycles. I hope you enjoy …
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Luke Norsworthy (7) - How to Love the Life You Already Have
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59:46We've officially named Luke the first member of The Enneagram Journey 5 Timer Club! It's a big deal. Not as big a deal though as his latest book, How To Love The Life You Already Have. If you're looking for the Richard Rohr books Suzanne suggests to read in order (he has many more great ones!) here they are: Everything Belongs, The Naked Now, Falli…
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Tony Jones (8) - The God of Wild Places
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1:04:11Enneagram 8, Tony Jones, steps out of the woods and into The Micah Center to sit down with Suzanne and her husband, Rev. Joseph Stabile, to talk about his latest book, The God of Wild Places. “One of the things I like about the wilderness is that it is not controllable. We’ve paved too many wild places.” If you haven't read The God of Wild Places y…
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Deep Astrological Questions with Ray Grasse
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1:39:26Ray Grasse returns to the pod to discuss his new book of essays So, What Am I Doing Here, Anyway? Ranging beyond the astrological into the philosophical, it's a thought provoking collection of the questions we've all asked before, like: How does synchronicity relate to astrology? How in the world do charts still work once a person has already died?…
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Chanel Dokun (1) - Binding Wounds, Liturgies, Reclaim the Morning
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1:01:32"You can’t treat what you haven’t diagnosed and you can’t diagnose what you haven’t assessed." - Chanel Dokun "You can't fix what you can't name." - Suzanne Stabile Yeah, the two of them could talk for way longer than an hour! But, for today, let's meet Enneagram One, Chanel Dokun. She is a mother of two, life coach, speaker, and author of Life Sta…
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Alison McCrary (3) Part Two - Calling and Community
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46:42The highly anticipated second part of our conversation with Alison McCrary (enneagram 3) is here! The Reverend (Joseph Stabile) takes host duties in today's episode as he and Alison talk about their callings and their journey. Alison started Methodist and now is Catholic. Joe started Catholic and now is Methodist. Wow, the journey they've been on! …
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In this pod, I give some time to explain the latest changes to the show. For many of you, nothing may seem to change; for others, it may be confusing or abrupt. Inspired by the Jungian concept of constellating psyche, this new title borrows some of its spirit around fully engaging with "archetypes" and leans more into the planetary side of the equa…
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Alison McCrary (3) - Big 3 Energy, Spiritual Practices, Queer Eye
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1:05:45"A contemplative practice is any act, habitually entered into with your whole heart, as a way of awakening, deepening, and sustaining a contemplative experience of the inherent holiness of the present moment." -James Finley What an honor it is to have Alison McCrary join us on The Enneagram Journey! Who knows the people you might get to talk to whe…
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This is the first show under the new banner/name Constellating Cosmos. It's the third name and hopefully the last. To set off on this new journey, I've decided to share this conversation I recently had with Jonathan Fredette. He's a fellow mycophile out in Oregon and also has a mushroom company called Evolved Mushrooms. I really enjoyed meeting him…
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Matt Lesser (8) - Enneagram Cohort, Assessments, his Dark Night of the Soul
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1:02:27Meet Enneagram Eight, Matt Lesser, the third third of the first third of our series with three members of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort! The man has done some work, and he shares his journey with us beginning with a life threatening illness when he was 15, depression in his twenties, and his dark night of the soul. He left the corporate world in 2021 a…
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Alex Reegan (8) - Enneagram Cohort, Both/And, Shamanic Spirituality
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1:08:45Welcome to Part 2 of what we envision to be a 9 part series throughout 2024 following 3 members of The LTM Enneagram Cohort features, enneagram 8, Alex Reegan! Alex Reegan is the author of What Needs To Be Said, as well as an interfaith minister, speaker, and transformative spiritual coach who uses his intuitive wisdom to help guide people towards …
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In this show, I try to reconcile the differences between Stoicism and Astrology. There was a time when they existed side-by-side, and it seems they are doing so again today. Both have seen a generous climb in popularity in recent years and I feel they need eachother—well, one needs the other more than the other. I make a case for this in the pod. I…
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Darnell Young (1) - Enneagram Cohort, Critic Talk, Context
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1:22:31This is the first episode of an anticipated 10 Episode series over the next year, that we're really excited for! You have most likely heard about the LTM Cohort program on the podcast, and what better way to talk about it then to follow along with 3 Cohort members? On today's show, meet Enneagram One Darnell Young. She has always been interested in…
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"The Monday Group" - Small Groups, Spiritual Formation, and Barbie
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1:35:48Meet some of the members of LTM's first online Enneagram Journey Curriculum group! Suzanne and Joel talk with Chelsea (8), Jennifer (4), Maria (2), Marty (2), Hillary (2), Matt (6), and Ronna (8) in today's episode about how they found each other and what the Journey has been like so far. Then the conversation evolved into a discussion about where …
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The Trans-Neptunian Planets with Jenn Zahrt
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1:17:31In this episode, Jenn returns to share with us some intel from the outer edges of our solar system. You see, in the early 20th century, there was a school of German astrologers who became fascinated in these "hypothetical" planets beyond Neptune. This was before Pluto's discovery and gained much momentum in certain circles. If you have ever seen th…
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Josh Graves (3) - The Simple Secret
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1:00:08"Marriage has taught me that two people can experience reality in two very different ways." - Josh Graves Welcome Josh Graves, preaching and teaching minister at Otter Creek Church in Nashville, TN and author of The Simple Secret: Choosing Love in a Culture of Hostility, and an Enneagram 3. A little subtype talk, a little family systems talk, relat…
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A Trinity for 24' "Endless Inquiries"
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1:22:41This is the final podcast of 2023. Instead of doing a recap of the year, I've decided to choose the top 3 themes of 24' I've been thinking about, and share what I think about them. It's also a solo show. I know, I attempted to do all of them as solo shows at the start of the year, but had to squeeze a few conversations in there. I felt lonely. Anyw…
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Jeff Crosby (9) - Spiritual Practice of Reading, Forgiveness, Language of the Soul
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1:22:15If you're a fan of The Enneagram Journey then there is a good chance you're a fan of books. Today's episode is filled with good book talk because Suzanne's dear friend Jeff Crosby is on the show. Jeff, Enneagram Nine and author of The Language of The Soul, shares his experience as a 9, what forgiveness means to him, and much more. Find out more abo…
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It's been a busy season, but The Enneagram Journey is back with a fantastic episode of Q&A with Suzanne, and a special appearance from Dr. Andy Stoker. CLICK HERE to ask a question for a future Q&A episode! "Enneagram 7s Reframe, Enneagram 3s Restructure" The Seventh Law of Emotional Triangles What is nikhedonia? PLUG TIME! The 4 Mantras and The Ho…
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Being Dreamt: An Astrological Observation
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42:33In this show, I share one of my favorite theories of how astrology works and how such a simple technique can change your life forever. It relates to dreaming. The overlap between dreams and transits has intrigued me from the beginning; I have learned so much from the interplay between the two that I feel it's now time to share a few of my findings.…
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In this show, Tansy returns to talk about the Soul. We speak about what it is, why it's important to tend to it, and what must be done to retrieve parts of it if it goes wandering. It's not the most astrological of my pods, yet it's still a valuable conversation. I hope you find some meaning in it and get inspired to work with Tansy as well. Enjoy.…
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Jason Miller (5) - Promiscuous, Non-Anxious, When The World Breaks
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1:06:51You may know that Suzanne was introduced to the world of podcasting through friend of the show, Luke Norsworthy. Now Luke has introduced Suzanne to Jason Miller, Enneagram 5, pastor at South Bend City Church and author of When The World Breaks. We'll get a peek at their relationship and Jason's affection for all Sevens! What is it like to be an enn…
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Brian Lee (1) - Security Line, Perfect/Correct/Right, Broken to Beloved
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1:03:21Enneagram Ones, have you named your Inner Critic? In this episode, Brian Lee shares his relationship with his Critic, as well as his journey from Broken to Beloved. Suzanne and Brian talk about Ennneagram One's relationship with Perfection and it what that my mean, and a great discussion about the line that Ones and Sevens share. This episode also …
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This show is more of a check-in than an entertaining podcast, yet it's an important one. The podcast is nearing it's Saturn opposition and it's bringing up a lot. I share where I'm at but also open the floor up to all of you to assist in dreaming up the future of this little hole to heaven. I do hope you listen. Eudaimonia, Adam to work with me: ht…
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