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Welcome to the Best Ever CRE Show, the world’s longest-running daily COMMERCIAL real estate podcast. Founded by Joe Fairless, a co-founder of Ashcroft Capital who went from buying $35,000 homes to controlling more than $2.7 billion in real estate assets, the Best Ever CRE Show provides commercial real estate expert insights, education, and timely information to our community of active and passive investors who want to build wealth, build a legacy, and do more good in the world. So if you wan ...
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John Casmon interviews Keith Miller about scaling from small backyard ADU and infill development projects into large-scale modular and manufactured home communities as a way to solve affordability and construction bottlenecks. Keith explains how subcontractor shortages, cost overruns, and timeline risk pushed his team toward factory-built housing, …
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Matt Faircloth interviews Maurice Philogene about designing a life around time freedom, personal fulfillment, and intentional investing, drawing from Maurice’s journey from corporate executive, military officer, and police officer to real estate investor. Maurice explains how buying and systematically paying down small condo assets created early fi…
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Pascal Wagner interviews Matt Faircloth, John Casmon, and Ash Patel in a year-end roundtable reflecting on the biggest lessons from 2025 across their own portfolios and hundreds of investor interviews. The group digs into why distress has been slower and more “behind the scenes” than expected, how liquidity, discipline, and deal structure mattered …
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Amanda Cruise interviews Chris Streit, CEO of CSA Partners, about where cost segregation stands at the end of 2025—why “100% bonus depreciation is back” doesn’t remove urgency, because cost seg is fundamentally tax deferral and the time value of money still matters. Chris explains how investors can run look-back/catch-up depreciation on properties …
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Matt Faircloth interviews Ash Patel, and the two hosts do a 2025 look-back / 2026 look-forward on what they’re seeing across major commercial asset classes—plus where they think real estate operators are headed after the last couple years of “extend and pretend”. They start with why triple-net retail has stayed surprisingly strong (including the “n…
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Richard McGirr interviews Maria Zondervan, a fund-of-funds operator who pivoted from a career as an endangered-species wildlife biologist into multifamily investing after realizing she needed to build legacy wealth for her special-needs son. Maria explains why she disliked directly operating multifamily and instead built a model where she partners …
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John Chang shares a solo market update from ICSC New York City, outlining what he’s hearing from top researchers and brokers across the retail real estate world. He breaks down why uncertainty and slower job growth are stretching decision-making, while consumer debt headlines look less alarming when viewed against income levels, savings/money marke…
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John Casmon interviews Yonah Weiss, a cost segregation expert known as the “Cost Seg King,” about how cost segregation works as an advanced form of depreciation and why it can be a powerful cash-flow tool for real estate investors. They break down who benefits most, plus other scenarios like the short-term rental “loophole” and income-based excepti…
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Matt Faircloth interviews Lindsay Greene about how the Brooklyn Navy Yard evolved from a historic shipyard into a modern 300-acre industrial ecosystem that now houses 550+ businesses. Lindsay explains the Yard’s transformation—from 1800s wooden-ship buildings to today’s mix of TV/film soundstages, food manufacturers, tech incubators, and light indu…
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Pascal Wagner interviews Rod Khleif, a 40-year investor who has owned thousands of units and trained operators responsible for more than 260,000 multifamily doors. Rod breaks down today’s confusing multifamily environment, explaining why conservative underwriting, realistic assumptions, and deep operator due diligence matter more than ever. He shar…
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Amanda Cruise interviews Logan Fullmer, a Texas-based investor who specializes in distressed property acquisition and solving complex title problems. Logan shares his journey from blowing a seven-figure inheritance and getting sober, to rebuilding his life in the oil fields and then parlaying small, risk-adjusted land bets into a multi-division com…
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Richard McGirr walks listeners through his 2025 retrospective using the “four L’s” framework—what he loved, learned, lacked, and longed for. He explains how abandoning distractions and doubling down on a single, high-performing debt fund produced seven to eight consecutive record-breaking months and over $24 million raised. Richard breaks down how …
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Richard McGirr interviews Bruce Stein, uncovering how his early dream of becoming an architect evolved into a decades-long career in real estate development, syndication, fund management, and now portfolio consulting. Bruce shares his path from working for a real estate syndicator, to a 16-year tenure at a family office deploying $300M, to running …
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John Chang interviews the commercial real estate market itself as he breaks down how healthcare hiring is propping up national job growth while most other sectors soften, and why that makes medical office one of the strongest asset classes going forward. He explains how an aging population and persistent healthcare labor shortages are driving durab…
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John Casmon interviews Dani Lynn Robison, co-founder of a vertically integrated “Freedom Family” of nine real estate businesses, about how she moved from Ohio turnkey rentals into larger multifamily and fund management. Dani walks through why she brought renovations, property management, acquisitions, brokerage, and capital raising in-house, and ho…
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Matt Faircloth interviews Andrew Cushman, founder and principal of Vantage Point Acquisitions, in a fireside-chat style episode that ranges from partnerships to banks to skiing 20,000-foot peaks. They break down why Andrew has avoided the typical “GP partner” model, how he instead built a tightly aligned internal team, and why operational control m…
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Pascal Wagner interviews Soren Godbersen, exploring the evolution of real estate crowdfunding, how platforms vet deals, and why LPs should understand platform incentives before investing. Soren breaks down the differences between aggregator platforms and vertically integrated operators, sharing lessons from his decade at EquityMultiple and his new …
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Amanda Cruise and Ash Patel interview Scott Lurie, a Milwaukee-based investor, developer, lender, and syndicator who has scaled from single-family flips to $700M+ in AUM. Scott explains how discipline, conservative leverage, and a long-term mindset helped him not only survive but aggressively buy through the Great Recession—including a 410-unit acq…
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Richard McGirr shares why facts alone don’t move investors and how a well-crafted personal story can radically improve your marketing and capital raising. He walks through Russell Brunson’s Epiphany Bridge script, showing how it builds on the classic Hero’s Journey to turn your backstory, “wall,” and breakthrough into a compelling narrative that br…
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Richard McGirr interviews Hiten Samtani, founder of ten31 Media and creator of The Promote. Hiten shares how his background running the newsroom at The Real Deal shaped his approach to storytelling, why he built a media company that treats real estate like the character-driven, high-stakes world it truly is, and how entertainment is the secret ingr…
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John Chang shares why commercial real estate data has become less reliable following the DOJ’s settlement with RealPage, and how losing access to more precise rent and vacancy feeds weakens investor decision-making. He walks through the market’s wildly shifting expectations for a potential December 10 Fed rate cut and argues that political pressure…
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John Casmon interviews Ed Mathews, a former Silicon Valley tech executive who walked away from a high-flying software career to build a more family-centered, freedom-focused life through real estate. Ed shares how missing too many “18 summers” with his daughters pushed him to leave DocuSign and go all-in on multifamily after seven years of flipping…
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Matt Faircloth interviews Robert Beardsley, partner at Lone Star Capital (LSCRE), about navigating the current multifamily cycle, surviving 2021–2022 acquisitions, and why the most resilient opportunities today hinge on debt structure, affordability incentives, and supply-constrained submarkets. Robert breaks down how Texas multifamily has shifted …
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Pascal Wagner interviews Bronson Hill, founder of Bronson Equity, about how LPs can invest confidently in today’s noisy and divided market. Bronson shares how raising $50M+ across multifamily, oil & gas, and alternative real estate has shaped the way he vets operators, evaluates risk, and structures deals more conservatively after recent market cha…
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Amanda Cruise and Ash Patel interview Thomas A. Kucharski, president and CEO of Invest Buffalo Niagara, about how his organization has helped transform Western New York from a legacy manufacturing market into a growing tech and advanced industry hub. He explains how their team centralizes regional data, builds commercial listing systems, and acts a…
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Matt Faircloth sits down with Ben Lapidus for a deep-dive into the origins, evolution, and future of the Best Ever Conference as it approaches its tenth year. Ben shares how a chance Skillshare class with Joe Fairless in 2012 sparked their partnership, how the conference grew from 175 attendees to a premier commercial real estate event, and why it …
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Richard McGirr interviews Nick Jones, founder and CEO of Alakai Capital, about how he scaled his commercial real estate company from a solo operation into a multi-department organization. Nick shares how he transitioned from land brokerage into development, why retail provided the best entry point for his early deals, and how cultivating tenant and…
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John Chang breaks down the September jobs report, the ripple effects of tariffs, and what current economic uncertainty means for commercial real estate investors. He explains how healthcare employment is propping up national job growth, why stalled hiring across most industries is signaling caution, and how policy unpredictability is weighing on bu…
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John Casmon interviews James Faillettaz, a Minneapolis-based investor who scaled from five units in a spreadsheet to restructuring an entire real estate company after an ambitious early strategy nearly collapsed. James shares how he over-hired, over-built, and over-extended while trying to operate like a Silicon Valley startup—then completely rebui…
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Matt Faircloth interviews Christian Macellari, Head of Acquisitions and CIO at RSN Property Group, about how their team has grown more than 20% in the past 15–16 months by staying disciplined, data-driven, and relentless in sourcing opportunities. Christian explains how RSN underwrites roughly 400 deals a year to close just a few, why top-down mark…
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Pascal Wagner breaks down how the IRS categorizes income into three buckets—active, portfolio, and passive—and why high-income earners often misunderstand how tax write-offs actually work. He explains common investor mistakes, including expecting real estate depreciation to offset W-2 or stock-market gains, and shares the simple rule that changed h…
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Amanda Cruise and Ash Patel interview Jeremy Barker, a former firefighter turned serial entrepreneur who has built a nine-figure net worth through value-add industrial and office deals. Jeremy walks through how he bought nearly vacant, 100,000+ square foot assets, pre-leased them during due diligence, and created tens of millions in equity with ver…
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On this week’s episode, Joe Fairless interviews Jeffrey Brogger. Jeffrey shares practical ways to revive “dead” contacts using AI voice agents that hold natural two-way conversations and surface real buying signals. He explains where these tools outperform blast emails and basic SMS, why latency and compliance matter, and how he builds lower-cost, …
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Richard McGirr breaks down why most syndicators struggle with online ads and explains why cold traffic is the last place capital raisers should be spending money. He argues that private investments require a level of trust that interruptive ads can’t establish, and that most managers burn cash chasing low-quality Facebook leads with terrible conver…
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John Chang breaks down the latest economic and market signals after a week of meetings in New York City. He explains how the temporary government funding deal both alleviates short-term pressures and extends broader uncertainty—impacting GDP, consumer spending, and investor sentiment. John also unpacks capital flows, interest-rate volatility tied t…
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John Casmon interviews Travis Watts, a long-time Best Ever contributor, full-time LP, and author of Passive Investor Tips. They dig into where we are in the multifamily market cycle, why the last three-plus years have felt so painful for LPs, and why Travis believes we’re entering a true recovery phase that could mirror the opportunity of buying in…
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Matt Faircloth interviews Todd Dexheimer, a multifamily and assisted living operator focused on steady, fundamentals-driven investing. Todd breaks down how he thinks about market selection—favoring job and population growth, sane rent-to-income ratios, and controlled new supply over “sexy” boom-bust metros. He then walks through a massive 99-unit v…
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Pascal Wagner interviews Evan Polaski, digging into what 18 years across retail and multifamily have taught him about raising capital through multiple market cycles. Evan shares what it was really like trying to raise an institutional fund heading into the 2008 crisis, how the “denominator effect” froze commitments, and why that experience still sh…
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Amanda Cruise and Ash Patel interview Steven Wear, chief marketing officer of SSSE, about the firm’s nationwide self-storage investments and how it’s evolving the model through creative financing and energy innovation. Steven explains how SSSE focuses on secondary and tertiary markets to avoid oversaturation and zoning risks, and why they advocate …
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Richard McGirr interviews Spencer Carpenter, Best Ever CRE’s guest booker and founder of Outlier Audio, to workshop networking strategy for the Best Ever Conference. They dig into how to define an ideal client profile, sell outcome-based podcast campaigns instead of one-off bookings, and qualify prospects quickly so Spencer only offers high-touch s…
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Richard McGirr interviews Ryan Floyd, a portfolio manager at Barca Capital, about why thoughtful, authentic investor relations is one of the most overlooked levers for raising and retaining capital. Ryan explains how most IR decks fail by avoiding honest discussion of what isn’t working, over-summarizing numbers in text, and underusing long-term, s…
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John Chang breaks down the Urban Land Institute and PwC 2026 Emerging Trends report and what it means for commercial real estate investors. He walks through ULI’s top ten markets to watch, including Dallas, Miami, Houston, Northern New Jersey, Tampa, and Phoenix, highlighting where overdevelopment, insurance costs, and local policy risks could pres…
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John Casmon interviews Bronson Hill. Bronson shares how he walked away from a high-paying medical sales career to pursue time freedom, eventually raising over $50 million for multifamily, oil and gas, debt funds, and development deals. He and John dig into the core reasons investors should define their goals around cash flow, capital preservation, …
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Matt Faircloth interviews Mark Kenney. Mark opens up about Think Multifamily’s rapid growth, the lending and partnership challenges that led to major losses, and the hard-won lessons that came out of it. He explains how rising interest rates, canceled tax programs, and lender aggressiveness created a perfect storm for multifamily operators, and why…
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Pascal Wagner interviews Michael Alberse. Michael walks through his journey from earning $161 a month in high-yield savings interest to building over $6,000 a month in passive income through a “Frankenstein” mix of cold storage, micro private equity, small business loans, covered-call ETFs, mobile home parks, multifamily, and private money lending.…
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Amanda and Ash interview Charlie Kao. Charlie shares how growing up as “free labor” on his dad’s properties eventually led him back into commercial real estate, where he’s now best known for self-storage. He explains why he’s cautious on self-storage at a national level, how overbuilding and new alternatives are changing demand, and why he’s leanin…
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Richard McGirr kicks off a Capital Classroom solo session by translating big-name marketing frameworks from Russell Brunson and Alex Hormozi into practical strategies for capital raisers. He explains why LPs aren’t really buying deals, but certainty of outcomes, and how stacking proof can 2–3x your conversions by de-risking the downside and buildin…
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Richard McGirr interviews Julia Anderson. Julia shares her journey from running restaurant operations to launching Capital Catalyst, a fractional CMO firm helping real estate operators scale their marketing systems. She explains how effective CRM design, investor journey mapping, and consistent communication create trust that converts cold leads in…
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John Chang analyzes how perception and data often diverge in real estate investing. Drawing from fresh insights after speaking with investors in Dallas, he contrasts Texas Sunbelt markets with the Upper Midwest to reveal surprising five-year trends in rent growth, vacancies, and pricing. John breaks down why overdevelopment has dampened returns in …
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John Casmon interviews Pete Schnepp. Pete shares how he went from running a contracting company to building a 150-door portfolio, including his “five years to freedom” cash-flow goal and the mindset shift from “keep it small, keep it all” to partnering through JVs. He explains why many high-net-worth partners prefer voting rights and alignment over…
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